Dead or Alive Has The Most Sophisticated THROWS SYSTEM Of All 3D Fighters (DOA6)

[@ForceofNature99]

FoN's fifth Tip of the Day for Dead or Alive 6 scratches the surface of DOA6's sophisticated throw system looking to ask the question: When should you throw your opponent? If you're having a little difficulty with the FGC notation terminology, check out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip2mlHSfg7GtptU Join TopTierFighters here: www.patreon.com/toptiertips/overview Follow Force of Nature on Twitter: twitter.com/ForceofNature99 Follow Force of Nature on Twitch: www.twitch.tv/force_of_nature Here's my original long-form DOA6 Throw Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/maiuiIKffpWLi5Y (excuse the quality...) #DOA #DeadorAlive6 #TeamNINJA

[@robhimselfttv1474]

Glad to see you posting content again FON!

[@ForceofNature99]

😉

[@zhizn_snake]

I always go for the combo traps into making them counter so I can high counter throw punish with Tina :)

[@ForceofNature99]

Getting critical stunned by Tina is, like, one of the scariest things in DOA6 haha.

[@yannaedc5934]

DOA6 content HUY HUY HUY YUHUUUY!!

[@ForceofNature99]

😉

[@halogen5076]

The only thing I hate about DOA’s throw system is that you can’t tech throw except neutral throw (5T) and combo throw. Also, the frame window for teching combo throw is a bit too lenient I think

[@ForceofNature99]

Wouldn't mind a VF5FS/US-esque throw break system implemented into DOA.

[@BeeLy1011]

Personally I think making every throw breakable would mess up the game. Throw punishment is a major part of DOA, and having all throws be breakable would likely change that imo. Plus, it helps balance holds.

[@impossibsrusamurai]

Agreed. DOA's throws gives so many options. Whether its to punish an unsafe move or set up a combo etc. And yeah them Hi-Counter throws hurt lol. One wrong guess is all it takes.

[@ForceofNature99]

For sure, DOA has the most interesting implementation of throws.

[@tacocow6122]

Doa throws are so smooth

[@ForceofNature99]

They're beautiful. Great animations!

[@thom78280]

Awesome tips!!

[@ForceofNature99]

Thank you!

[@brucewayne2184]

Good tip

[@ForceofNature99]

Thanks.

[@homurayurisquad1423]

nice as usual, maybe i should play doa again or finally learn some other 3d fg, since its been awhile

[@ForceofNature99]

Try DOA, it's a lot of fun, trust me!

[@chunkymilk]

do all characters have a run-up throw?

[@ForceofNature99]

Yes. Though, they vary in effectiveness. For e.g., Kasumi & Hayabusa have great "Run-up throws", Rig not-so much.

[@juliahgamers9289]

Olá vc joga com Akira Yuki com controle Arcade ou controle de PS3 mesmo?

[@ForceofNature99]

Arcade stick is better for Akira. I play on a controller.

[@dragokvng4404]

Exactly let doa6 get revived

[@ForceofNature99]

I'm hoping that TN plans to in the future when they're ready!

[@SpookerDoom]

What a strangely short video. No mention of capture (offensive) throws, or how throws are input interruptible, a property which destroys the tick throw. Seems incomplete

[@ForceofNature99]

These tip videos are aimed for a 1 minute length. They naturally only scratch the surface. If you must know, I actually created a long-form video on DOA6's Throws a couple years ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/maiuiIKffpWLi5Y

[@gilet102]

This is highly subjective so making this claim for DOA throw system is kinda of a huge reach. Especially since a lot of things mentioned are general things in practically every fighting games. Using throws to punish, to break down defenses or get plus frames isn’t sophisticated or unique to DOA at all. VF5 has all these plus you get the option to break them all (except for catch throws) unlike in DOA. In my “OPINION” Tekken has the best throw system. 3 types of throws corresponding to a limb(s) with opportunity to break them all if the correct break is inputted.

[@naruto78961]

I disagree. I think Tekken’a grab system is nowhere near the best. It’s pretty punishing to new players and god forbid you’re fighting King or another grappler, who can switch what grabs their doing mid grab chain. If you don’t know exactly what grab they’re going for and when to break it, it feels like RPS and it’s frustrating as hell. I do think that DOA should probably have all grabs be breakable but I still think it’s much better than most 3D FGs

[@ForceofNature99]

@@naruto78961 Also DOA5/6 are the only 3D fighters to have 4 standardized throw speeds for most characters (i5/i7/i10/i12), plus 2 low throws (i5/i7 generally), along with offensive holds (catch throws) for instance. Throw speeds are generally just i10 (VF), i17? (Tekken) and i18 in SC. You can easily blend in strings like PP~ into a throw attempt seemlessly (can only really also do that in VF). DOA characters also commonly have "reset throws" (damage throws that provide standing advantage for potential looping situations). No modern 3D fighter has DOA5/6's versatility in throws. Tekken is actually interesting because Left Throws (1+3) literally throw out the left arm, and Right Throws (2+4) throw out the right arm letting you see which throw is performed. However, in Tekken 7, you can break "standard throws" (1+3 or 2+4) by pressing any of the standard attack buttons (1, 2, 3, 4, etc.). Command throws (such as d/f1+2 for e.g.) are broken by inputting 1+2 with the visual that the grabber throws out both arms (along with Command grabs generally looking to have less range than standard grabs). King is an asshole so of course you need to know if his command grabs are 1, 2 or 1+2 breaks. However, other than characters like King or other grapplers for instance, most characters have very limited grab games: Just Left Throw, Right Throw, Right-Side Throw, Left-Side Throw, Back Throw and one command grab.