Deadlock already has cheaters..

[@AverageJonas]

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[@Vortemio]

I felt bad for Yamato when said "sorry I fed them"

[@AverageJonas]

Same omg

[@BIoodContact]

she almost got her too Vindicta is suffering from a massive skill issue obviously

[@bottomfragger]

Here before people say "Its not a Valve game without cheaters". Seriously though, this is unreal. How big of a loser do you have to be to cheat in a game that's still in testing!

[@geeesoriano8608]

i mean.... hes doing the devs favor for trying out the security of the game, but i agree with you

[@Cpt_SR]

Fr..... I hope vacnet 3.0 works.... otherwise it will be another CS or TF 😐

[@Yazimo]

I mean u test the cheats in thest phase, duh?

[@bottomfragger]

@@Yazimo Why would you even cheat in the first place?

[@ulkord]

@@bottomfragger It might be a cheat developer testing the cheats he is developing to sell them

[@TheCarnivaI]

Ah the moba classic “These guys are so fkn lucky” brings a tear to my eye

[@MrRafagigapr]

to be honest the light attack parry was a crazy gamble most people would do a heavy melee there and his parry would be useless

[@artic562]

I was also in a game with a cheating Vindicta. Good thing you can shut them down if you dive her but it definitely isn't fun to play against in general.

[@jcgl-ue5jr]

I had a match where a russian named person was aimbot-spinning killing everyone below the floor, luckily that person got banned in that same match.

[@mchlup]

Most of the time it's actually Russians cheating. I don't get it.

[@JWL123]

@@mchlupthere is a certain country known for cheating and it isn’t Russia my friend

[@nergal2741]

@@mchlup it's because it's part of the culture. anyone that has an opportunity to cheat in real life, would do so, so they do the same also in games. source: born into russian culture briefly, unfortunately, but luckily grew up in europe

[@mchlup]

@@nergal2741 Thanks for the info.

[@randomfeg4141]

It sucks but I would say aim botting in this game is not as much of an advantage as in a regular shooter, since positioning and strategy matters a lot and you can get cc locked or oneshot if you are not careful

[@nergal2741]

yeah luckily 1 headshot here =/= insta dead like in other games like CS.. still, if they get to farm them up early on, they will just roll from there

[@adityarahman7239]

Cheating in beta test is insanely mind blowing

[@kayzen2329]

*alpha it's crazier than i thinked

[@ThefamousMrcroissant]

I've encountered three in a row. All of them either russians or chinese. The interpolation snapping aimbot is quite common already. 2x Vindicta and 1x Infernus.

[@ambralemon]

Your poor Yamato even apologized for feeding :(

[@Booraad]

VAC is the worst anti cheat ever made. This game has a chance to be a top MOBA up there with League but if they dont fix VAC its going to end up like CS where ranked is only playable at low levels or if you pay for 3rd party servers like faceit etc

[@chervilious]

faceit is free btw

[@nergal2741]

well there's also cheats for faceit, so it's not like it's the "uncheatable" anti-cheat...

[@chervilious]

@@nergal2741 there is no such thing is uncheatable anti cheat, its just increase the amount of effort and risk of making or using cheats

[@そのHikari]

The ultimate iso warmup 💀

[@leungleung3634]

She just got razer mice, that's all

[@theGrassMan0305]

Multiple???

[@ZvedeSDC]

Deadlock already had cheated in closed alpha back when there was 1000 average players (May/June)

[@w1se_w0lf]

To anybody that types it is alpha and they don't introduced anticheat yet, I need to remind you it is Valve game. Their most popular game is 12 years old and they still did not introduce anticheat there. Funny thing the game is cheaters paradise. The game is fun, I want it to be successful, but I have serious doubts with Valve's history of lazy attitude towards cheaters.

[@Decki777]

I stopped playing the game when I was killed by a hacker.

[@cossah2936]

Return fire item early game would have been the counter to this

[@mchlup]

P.S. I hope you sent this to the Devs so that they ban their IP address from this game for good.

[@cyruslupercal9493]

Hope they can test anti cheat.

[@blaynesea8816]

I hate hackers more than anything. I no joke think u should get jail time if caught.

[@gandibaat3637]

I am here because I just lost to similar Invictas two times in a row

[@FelixNothus]

This is why we can't have nice things

[@imgamer8544]

Yo, its TenZ, u don't understand

[@karmelkowykuc3525]

Cheaters are gonna ruin deadlock too

[@zurakakoshvili4476]

Game name?

[@bottomfragger]

Deadlock

[@Goos69420]

The name of the game is Deadlock, its made by valve

[@bradadams4033]

ban whoever invited them too!

[@taibasarovadil]

At least tf2 is still clear...

[@Styr0Soup]

Cheating sucks man. I'm just waiting to get to point where these game dev companies hire cheaters to sabotage other competing games.😅

[@そのHikari]

It doesn’t hit the same as valorant😢

[@typekkleks4013]

it hits harder

[@jcgl-ue5jr]

yeah i know, it's better :D

[@youneedsomefruits]

💀 when’s that inhouse anti cheat online valve tf is this cs2 is already a shit show

[@Slendermaster968]

#SaveDeadlock LOL

[@xfn5286]

U getting less views tbh people want more valorant but its alr

[@MrRafagigapr]

i wonder why the cheater uses vindicta , its allmost like if you have decent aim the character is the strongest damage dealer in the game

[@stepdar]

Haze has objectively more weapon damage, don't cry about vindicta she is pretty shit rn, any character can be good, but vindicta is not very good amongst the other ones

[@MrRafagigapr]

@@stepdar yes haze has more weapon damage with max stacks but vindicta has double her range and her ultimate is way better if you are a cheater , and sice you get so many souls from kills you have more items than other characters even if you are noob at farming like this guy on the video you are ahead

[@griffin1182]

Shes also very killable, even with hacks, this person managed to die the most on their team while being insanely fed, not sure what other shooter you could manage that on.

[@typekkleks4013]

I think if he tried playing heavy movement reliant heroes he would break his fingers xDD

[@stepdar]

@@MrRafagigapr fair enough, but she is not op

[@groveht17]

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[@FateMessenger]

😂

[@EpixYTcont3nt]

AverageJhonas the sova main who practices everyday, can i have ur valorant account pls? i dont nave any skins and since u dont play valo anymore i hoped that i could have your account??

[@typekkleks4013]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@noahcame1526]

fell off hard

[@typekkleks4013]

like you from your trolley as a kid

[@uriel6022]

Deadlock is infested with cheaters, closet cheaters in every single game. It's pathetic, uninstalled and won't waste any time of this game it will be dead before its released lol

[@sldX]

Funny part is every time someone called that guy a hacker I'm 100% certain, people were like "no man, just git gud not everyone whos better than you is cheating".

[@bottomfragger]

@@sldX TBF, it's a good defence to use since people often complain in lower elo's that the enemy player is cheating only because he's better than them. However, in high skill lobbies, these people often either fall apart or get caught fairly easily by others

[@flairoffice501]

Me everytime I'm losing.

[@gafgarion9420]

to be fair we had a guy say a person was "100% cheating no questions asked" so we roll over to his lane to gank and the person was 100000000000000000000000% NOT cheating. ppl get shit on and call cheats 100%

[@mythmakroxymore1670]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@bottomfraggeralso the low level players are somewhat unfamiliar with the actual cheating tells. No offense but they just don’t have the experience or skill developed themselves in order to compare to good players and cheaters accurately enough to see differences between highest level gamers and cheaters

[@nergal2741]

tbf, deadlock is a game where it will be hard to tell, because some abilities/characters/items and combos are sometimes just OP .. every now and then we get rolled by some guy playing Mo&Krill or Vindicta/Talon/etc that is going like 20-3. We didn't check the demos, but in most of those games their strong success was tied to someone feeding them 5 kills in the first 5 mins

[@Gaiel44]

I can't believe people actually find it "fun" to cheat IN A VIDEO GAME. That shi crazy

[@franknoriega4417]

Just sad man hopefully they get a good control over it and perma ban ip adresses

[@MrRafagigapr]

likelly some idiot farming rank to sell a "top 0.1% rank" acccount to a even bigger idiot

[@spaycee9082]

I guess y’all never used cheats in GTA or any game for that matter 😂

[@Yo_do_yo]

⁠@@spaycee9082Building skills and getting better at a game is fun. Relaying on a bot for that gives you everything, it becomes boring and soulless.

[@nowaylater80]

​@@spaycee9082 that was single player game. Anyone with common sense know to not compare it with multiplayer games...

[@LittleHoss17]

i hope they do hardware bans

[@antonbaydala9780]

I played against a cheating Ivy about a week ago. I knew something was off when in the first 3 minutes of the game, I would peak my head out from cover for about a second and take 300 damage from headshots lmao

[@TatharNuar]

24:25 You see that jerking motion while she's tracking in the air? That's where her tracking is outside the range for her aimbot to kick in. 100% cheater.

[@elephantguy0790]

4/9 comments are bots. Sucks

[@theGrassMan0305]

Hopefully valve is a little faster at treating the cheater problem in this game than in others... tho this is their biggest new thing so I'd be surprised to see it be a problem for long.

[@MrRafagigapr]

these cheaters are making the cheat detection much better this early , the devs do need data on how the cheat programs operate

[@xzeraCS]

​@@MrRafagigapryup valves gonna let them cheat while they get all the data and basically do a huge ban wave at once

[@silverphoenix6727]

Man, these bots are fast.

[@viltrumite3790]

bro these kind of people are so f in pathethic like why would u cheat on a game

[@YocasFilmz]

Some people want to win by any means necessary and then there are others that do it simply to piss other players off.

[@taida.]

just had someone play the same character, trash talked my whole whole team and legit wiped my health in 2 seconds.. bro did not miss, safe to say the whole team left

[@tartoflan]

Time to work on countering that, Valve. You don't want a second bot apocalypse in one of your games

[@allanphilip]

Classic Valve game

[@AelfricLake]

This is why aliens won't talk to us

[@aerithlight]

Yes, Valve is definitely back to making games.

[@ruwellsalatan7774]

There's an account who invited vindicta which is the main account, would be best to ban the main account plus everyone he invited plus the accounts invited by those accounts then put on the ban note that you were banned because user_x is a cheater, with this method they wont try to cheat because if they get caught the one who invited them will be the one to be punished

[@IGoByKit]

People are so pathetic lol, the game isn't even out yet and they need cheats to. . what, prove something?

[@neagudavid2955]

how do you make beebop do 2 bombs? stack them or however you call them

[@lu_k9342]

Theres an item i think, i have seen people Buy an item to have an extra charge on 1 ability. I might be wrong tho

[@Vortemio]

there is an active item (echo shard) when used lets you immediately reset the last used ability

[@typekkleks4013]

It is an item that lets u recast the most recently used non ultimate ability its the first 'usable' item that Jonas bought

[@EmperorSigismund]

You can also bind the button to throw a sticky to the same button to use echo shard which lets you instantly double cast the ability. Jonas made a video on the build.

[@RB_003]

Classic valve moment. Still better content than valorant tho

[@skoomatroll]

Cheating vindicta and no one buys metal skin

[@ChillyP947]

Hi Jonas, Do you need video editor by any chance?

[@kweebec4489]

u use scripts yourself !

[@XViper123]

Such a shame.

[@Hostobi]

these losers have no friends, have no life outside the computer

[@nempk1817]

"Deadlock already has cheaters" The game has AVG 100k people playing at the same time everyday. 🤡

[@XViper123]

Didn't take long to spread. Have encountered 2 more today.

[@Fluskar]

valve game moment

[@christopherflores5405]

i had a game where the vendicta on my team had 49 kills and 0 deaths by the end of the game. this sh*t is just ruining games.

[@domenick8446]

I played a cheater day before yesterday same exact kind of gameplay and he had some random guys twitch as his username

[@prolikethat5995]

At least it was Invicta and not McGinnis or wraith. Game would have been over in 10 mins.

[@Slendermaster968]

It´s funny even cheaters can´t do nothing about debuffs

[@SaphyOW]

The wheezes in the analysis had me dead 💀 subbing

[@Sch1n89]

Since 3 days in 1 of 3 games i got cheaters.

[@SOJACjac]

Oh yeah it's a valve game

[@skootz24]

VAC PLS

[@shanewheeldon5076]

Played a game last night where an Abrams kept dipping into negative hp. Crazy there are already hackers out there.

[@Grim327]

They could have a pretty great anti cheat here… keep the game invite only and inviting a cheater gets you banned too… or like 3 strikes system on that ban cuz sometimes you dunno your friends cheat

[@wierdwierdos]

Wouldn't work unless it becomes a public policy. Streamers will get a random request from their chat and just invite them.

[@Grim327]

@@wierdwierdos they just need to announce “starting today…” and then a database can keep track of all new invites from this day forward, it wouldn’t be a difficult thing to start at any time Sooner than later would be great

[@cyruslupercal9493]

Could work on an anti cheat with the limited player count.

[@blasthf]

If you invite a player and they are banned for cheating. Your account is also banned. But it's easy to skirt around this.

[@Grim327]

@@blasthf I mean just adds another layer really. Less feasible to just make a new account real quick over and over. And less people might consider downloading cheats real quick to begin with. But I guess it also creates an account selling market

[@artman6370]

Hi

[@JonathanMedinaMD]

For the dummies like me. What stacks are you talking about

[@Gaiel44]

his character he's playing has a "stackable" ability. The sticky bomb one. Right now it seems to scale infinitely

[@sebentosh]

Bebop gains 2.5% extra damage on his bombs every time it hits an enemy hero, if you look at the ability icon on the bottom it tells you what the number is. For example at 14:00 you can see he has +65 stacks on the 2 ability meaning he hit the enemies 26 times with that bomb and its dealing 65% more damage than base.

[@nicobay4512]

If valve dont put a serious anticheat or ban those people , deadlock will be deadonarrival .

[@Jake-ok6ge]

Ban him, whoever invited him and anyone he invited then repeat for those people. Don't be friends with cheaters

[@yesiam7481]

Second this. Rn the game is only playable via invite, if someone invited a cheater... they both deserve to be banned

[@typekkleks4013]

@@yesiam7481 i invited 30+ people i dont know into the game, why would i deserve to be banned if they cheated? lmao

[@nicobay4512]

Totally stupid idea.

[@McClaps]

@@typekkleks4013 "invite friends" is written on the thing and you inviting random strangers, huh

[@Licht_Umbra]

​@@typekkleks4013 why did you do that?

[@nicobay4512]

But using a consol macro thing for instant tp/bomb/reset/bomb is not cheating ?

[@kiskass49]

It's not the same, but the valve should disable binds like this (it's not a macro actually).

[@nergal2741]

if it's cheating, then valve should just disable binding commands via console, but so far they didn't = aka. not cheating

[@nicobay4512]

@@nergal2741 you right and im sur they will in futur . But so far for me its cheating since its not something you cant do 'in game'

[@nergal2741]

@@nicobay4512 i mean, you can perfectly do this ingame if you practice for hours .. maybe not as instantly fast as with a bind, but you can

[@nicobay4512]

@@nergal2741 come on , you know its not . Pressing one button instead of 4 .

[@fuwabnuuy]

Better than me = Cheating Got it

[@21leowheeler]

Wish this video was never made, youre just educating people that cheats exist now.

[@MrKippers]

Valve, if this is the game you are *actively* working on, and there's already cheaters in it, then what confidence does it give players in the future? If it happened to TF2, and currently happening to CS2, how long til this game meets the same fate?

[@mchlup]

I'm pretty sure I had a cheater or two in my games as well in the last couple days. 35k souls seems a bit much in a 30 min match.

[@wideout7838]

35k souls at 30mil isn’t that much once ur decent at the game. I’ve been 40k plus at that point and so have plenty of ppl in my games when u get fed and farm well

[@Adam-bq6ic]

thats not a cheater bro

[@se-fl]

Please remove any headshot multiplier. It's just whack-a-mole. It's not fun. It's not smart. It just enables cheaters.

[@Axter5]

How do you enjoy this game i genuinely think you are acting

[@MelficeN7]

No, you don't.

[@Axter5]

@@MelficeN7 I actually think he is acting like i think he made a bad decision on grinding this came and he doesn't want to switch that fast to another game so he is just acting and playing this game suffering

[@kacperski3602]

Things are more fun when you're good at them

[@Axter5]

@@kacperski3602 Like he wasn't good at valorant

[@typekkleks4013]

L + ratio + get better + kid + cry more