Deadly explosion rips through spy agency building in Russia | Ukraine: The Latest | Podcast

Day 385.
Today, we discuss the deadly fire at an FSB Border Service Department building in Rostov-on-Don, Russia and analyse the recent spate of mutinous videos shared by Russian soldiers. Plus, we explore American strategy in Ukraine and around the world.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Host). @djknowles22 on Twitter.
Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). @DomNicholls on Twitter.
Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). @FrancisDearnley on Twitter.
Nataliya Vasilyeva (Russia Corresponent). @Nat_Vasilyeva on Twitter.
With thanks to Giselle Donnelly, Senior Fellow in Defence and National Security at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI).

[@onedeadcat]

The building fell out of a window.

[@oceansailorboy]

🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍

[@migmadmarine]

Maybe it was a plutonium sandwich deli?

[@HungryGhost999]

🚭

[@idleishde6124]

No it was just another Russian smoking. It's a really bad habit for them, they really need to give up

[@Peter_S_]

The building is not on fire, it is a Special Combustion Operation.

[@cindymaceda2999]

🤣

[@billholemo2518]

A controlled combustion experiment.

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

So when will these Barbarians be driven out of the Ukraine, Georgia, Moldavia, occupied parts of Finland, and Königsberg, and let's not forget several Japanese islands still occupied by Russia since 1945.

[@tord008]

Africa is infected by Ruzzian Wagner now. Some 20 countries I believe...

[@TremereTT]

Königsberg is now a nuclear submarine and toxic waste graveyard. Russians may keep it . maybe partition it between poland and Lithuania ....if they want more Russian speaking citizens...all associted with the Russian military .

[@catalinacurio]

Slava Ukraine! 🇺🇦🌻🌻🌻

[@michaelschuenemann3505]

..17-3-23 Looks like the Ukrainian's have NO Answer at all - the Russian and Wagner Forces just keep pushing and pushing - taken more Land Areas and Towns - just Brilliant !!!! Glory to Mother Russia - the Bear is Roaring and Please do NOT Forget 2014 and Remember the Donbass !!!! Evil NATO Expansionism Aims will be Defeated and NATO Puppet Zelenskyy hunted down and hopefully Jailed !!!!

[@marinaclarasanchezsuarez2905]

From Ukraine with Love, GRU💥💥💥

[@pastorDbow]

Great reporting today!

[@ODX171]

NOT so good a day ago. Too many mistakes made by the AI

[@jimgraham6722]

Smoking in restricted areas again.

[@stuartbaker1920]

The Ukrains have been fighting since 2014 , 8 yrs , that's longer than both World Wars. Bakhmut is an ongoing battle & will be one of many in Ukraine who are using it to deplete the Russian army . They have fixed the Russian Army & depleted Prigozhin's Wagner force , for its tactical advantage which is depleting Russian's forces to a critical level that will end with the Ukraine 🇺🇦 spring offensive Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@mbtbd]

Ukraine does not even know what they are fighting for, either way they have now lost, and there is much more pain to follow. Betraying their fellow 'Rus to be part of the LGBTQ+ empire under the trans flag? A clueless people, like Borat.

[@HungryGhost999]

Agreed 👍

[@buddyrojek9417]

USA is bleeding out Russia so they sanctions destroy its industry . Without investment and training all its elderly knowledge based workers will go to god and the youth won’t be trained . So the longer this war goes on the bigger the collapse for Russia. It’s unfortunate the Ukrainians did not get the weapons or air protection they needed but the USA is in the killing business and it’s oligarchs are vying for control of its resources. USA is about to expand west of Alaska . The Russian leaders of eastern provinces are already being courted for their future roles as governors

[@Harry-wb7uv]

😂

[@Kangenpower7]

Stuart Baker, Hopefully Russia will use up most of it's bullets and artillery rounds in Bakhmut and not have enough left to fight this summer! It seems like Wagner and the regular Russian Army are looking for more Artillery rounds. Lets hope they are piled up in a huge mountain, then hit by a incoming missile! Back in WW1, the British shelled a position with about 3,000 rounds per minute for a hour, then send the men over the hill. Sadly the Germans sat deep underground, somewhat safe, and then when the shelling stops, they go up to their waiting machine guns and mow down the men coming forward!

[@kacee3352]

SLAVA UKRAINI 🙏🏾🇺🇦🔱💪🏾

[@sherrillwhately7586]

Hey 👋🏼. I am a Progressive Democrat 🇺🇸 and I support Ukraine 🇺🇦 💯 on a human rights basis. I wouldn’t be watching the Telegraph’s Ukraine the Latest if that wasn’t the case. The Guardian is my usual rag.

[@HungryGhost999]

Horses for courses.

[@davidkruse3424]

Progressive Democrat equals communist Marxist

[@0ldb1ll]

The 'very large fire' was a result of smoking waste paper baskets. Honest Guv.😅

[@Itried20takennames]

The continuing travels of the careless Russian smoker….😂

[@marisabenson1222]

Glory to Russia's incompetence. It is Ukraine's greatest defence so may it continue unabated and uncorrected,

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

These fires are caused by spontaneous hay combustion. they store hay for their horses near ever building.

[@niklaswikholm514]

Good to hear Nataliya reporting, honest and professional

[@buddyrojek9417]

From contacts on online gaming it is very clear that the number of new recruits to the Russian army are not as keen as the initial psychological profile of blood lusting soldiers. So I think the assault of Russia will be reduced, with declining morale and less “warrior” genetics. Putin is pushing the “button” but getting less response .

[@robertsteele474]

@@buddyrojek9417 "From contacts on online gaming"...a valid source.🤣🤣🤣

[@jamietaylor5570]

I don't know about the Reaper in particular but the usual way to "destroy" data in a situation like that is to keep all data encrypted and wipe the encryption key from memory/etc when required.

[@michaelschuenemann3505]

..17-3-23 Looks like the Ukrainian's have NO Answer at all - the Russian and Wagner Forces just keep pushing and pushing - taken more Land Areas and Towns - just Brilliant !!!! Glory to Mother Russia - the Bear is Roaring and Please do NOT Forget 2014 and Remember the Donbass !!!! Evil NATO Expansionism Aims will be Defeated and NATO Puppet Zelenskyy hunted down and hopefully Jailed !!!!

[@evrydayamerican]

​@@devonglide1830 yes the tech is way better then what Russia has but that drone and its tech is over 20yrs old. I still think we should go get it but if they get it shouldn't get anything ground breaking.

[@jamietaylor5570]

@@devonglide1830 Physical tech may be separate concern. But OS/hardware/firmware can also be encrypted if so inclined.

[@cjmatulka8321]

Slammed into the waters at speed, not a doubt in my mind Russia will recover an intact nuclear armed and powered drone downed from international air space.

[@davidbilich1708]

Pretty sure since Iran took one of drones we have other ways of destroying the data...

[@LumenMichaelOne]

Francis Deanrley... Excellent final thoughts, reporting and analysis at 40:00... brilliant contributions regularly... 👏👏👏 ... in My view.

[@occamraiser]

Hands up everyone who is shocked to hear the French sacrificing the interests of their allies in favour of self-interest. This from the country that can't make its mind up whether it actually belongs in NATO. Its NATO status has changed more often than the UK's EU membership.

[@laars0001]

I wonder if Putin called Macron regarding investment opportunities?

[@liviadix1433]

Unfortunately for the French’s it’s not their first time.

[@memkiii]

So more than *once* then? It isn't shocking at all. Every nation acts in their own self interest, all the time. It just happens that sometimes those interests agree with the interests of others.

[@toddhastings3376]

I purchased a surplus French military rifle. It's never been fired, and dropped only once

[@largeeng]

@@toddhastings3376 Lol

[@JosephWecker]

There is a very long tradition in Russia of the "appeal to the Tsar," which is echoed in the language the soldiers use when appealing to Putin (like how they state his name etc.). From wikipedia: "Previously the tsar had been seen as the champion of the people: in dire situations, the masses would appeal to the tsar, traditionally through a petition,, and the tsar would respond to his people promising to set things right. The lower classes placed their faith in the tsar." Despite bloody Sunday (1905), it has remained the ostensible almost sole way that Russians could express any agency over the decades.

[@buddyrojek9417]

😂😂😂good luck Russians. Your Tsar is not of noble blood. Big difference

[@misterserious3522]

@@buddyrojek9417 The concept of 'noble blood' especially in Russia (or anywhere) is complete bullshit. The dictator residing in the Kremlin by any title IS THE CAUSE OF THE CORRUPTION AND FULLY TO BLAME for the THE RESULTANT PROBLEMS. When it comes to Kremlin squatting malignant narcissists that declare themselves leaders and dictators by decree or other entitlement to criminality, they are all illegitimate and all claim entitlement to oppress and exploit the public as expendable, as long the criminal elite and their vassals profit. Dont beg the cause of the problem f king the public over for a solution to the problem they created specifically for f king over the public, that's just ignorant.

[@generalputnam2990]

Good historical point.

[@robertsteele474]

@@buddyrojek9417 Definitely different than the inbred "noble blood" of Tsars' Hapsburg relatives in England.🤣🤣🤣

[@denyspetiukov2865]

Ukrainians do that too( I always felt uneasy about it. Like why do that? Demand your rights.

[@nemisis4u]

i see that the trollls are getting excited again. must be doing something right at the telegraph, as alway great reporting

[@HungryGhost999]

Yeah Russians are only brave in the comments section. They’re cowards on the battlefield and if they face mobilisation.

[@nemisis4u]

@@HungryGhost999 hi and those that can leave and do so sharpish, or piss off quick before enlistment

[@oleksii8182]

I think it's just the day after payday.

[@2nd3rd1st]

50:35 Pretty sure Giselle Donnelly meant to say Zeitenwende (ts-eye-ten-ven-deh - change of times), not Sittenwende (zit-ten-ven-deh - change of morals).

[@themoonman-4]

Bravo!

[@Aothis]

What i hate about trump mentality in this is he thinks the solution is so easy. Just give crimea to Russia and everyone can go home! Well sorry Trump! Gone are the days that other nations decide where borders should be.

[@mbtbd]

It would be if people listened to Trump. Unfortunately, the U.S. is a warmongering nation, and the Department of State, it's own entity, would do all they can to stop Trump from promoting peace.

[@HungryGhost999]

@@mbtbd total nonsense. Trump knows about as much about geography as he does about North Korea. Zilch.

[@HungryGhost999]

Trump is and always will be a clown 🤡

[@SpringIsBACK]

Trump DID say "worst case", so he understands there are a number of variables involved. But even though his administration did have considerable success in defusing tensions between Israel and some Arab states, from that he should understand that this is a much "hotter" conflict, and since both sides think they can "win"*, and are so far apart, even if there is a negotiated solution, it would take considerable time to work out. Israel's Bennet thought he had a solution, but after listening to him discuss it for hours, there were still large gaps in his proposals, which he has alluded to learning more of... *Note: IMO, Russia's real reason for invading is as a sort of military solution to the socio-economic threat that a westernized and quite likely successful Ukraine under the EU's wing (economic growth from resource development and curtailment of corruption) would have created for the Russian elites / leadership while protected by NATO. This threat is much greater from Ukraine than, say, the Baltic countries because of both Ukraine's great potential to grow, it's much larger pre-war population than the Baltic states, and because so many families have, er, had, ties between Ukraine and Russia. Russian leadership's mindset has never really progressed beyond the days of the writing of the 1812 Overture (with cannon!), so, Russian leaders cannot comprehend how to react to the modern world and keep their power, without resorting to their bred in the bone imperialism / brutal aggression. "Worst case" for Russia NOW may be to drag the war out so that the West tires of it, and accepts a solution where maybe borders DO go back to 2014, but Russia does not have to pay reparations, and Ukrainians and Russians are so embittered at each other that those family ties have been replaced with seething hatred. This would accomplish the isolation between Russia and a westernizing Ukraine that Russian leadership thinks it needs to survive.

[@edwardsianski725]

Thanks for the post! May Blessed Velychkovsky and St Mary MacKillop of Australia, St Joseph, St Patrick, St George and St Michael the Archangel, intercede with the Almighty for an end to this terrible war with a just peace for Ukraine (Return of all Ukrainian territory including Crimea). May Our Lady of Perpetual Help comfort all who have lost loved ones and be with those who have been injured. May all Ukrainians who have died Rest in Peace. May Bakhmut remain in Ukraine's hands.

[@HungryGhost999]

👍

[@marymarlow3646]

May the US step up its weapons deliveries so that all these saintly people can save Ukraine.

[@bradleypierce1561]

Slava Ukraini!

[@cbhlde]

I feel so safe with Western media reporting; it always turns out to be true and reliable!

[@duncanbirnie4158]

Having worked for a major Uk diving\construction company,I have been on projects working for the MOD to recover jets that have crashed into the sea,I was shocked at the damage done to the aircraft,when we were asked on deck to send rakes ,shovels and buckets to recover the parts! The aircraft was totally destroyed and most of the debris was confetti,very few pieces of any size,when we went into Aberdeen to discharge what we had recovered there was a film crew there to record it for the TV, and they were shocked to see that all that was left was some large bags of confetti and some pieces about a couple of meters long,they were not happy crappies.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@duncanbirnie4158]

Ps none of the aircraft we recovered ,had any casualties,they crew members had all ejected safely 👍

[@dhill4001]

I'd expect the condition of the wreck would depend in large part on its speed at impact. The MQ-9 is a pretty slow aircraft and was pretty much under control after the collision. Though the operators could have crashed it hard too.

[@davidbilich1708]

​@dhill4001 all things fall at the same speed when gravity is involved.

[@badgertheskinnycow]

@@davidbilich1708 not if they have a functioning engine.

[@davidbilich1708]

@skill centre yes... then they can go faster. However nothing survives terminal velocity.

[@cjmatulka8321]

Wow, has anyone offered to help the KGB with recovery after this problematic but unfortunately tragic earthquake?

[@davidbarry6900]

I'm sure Ukraine will send them a batch of cigarettes. 😜

[@heatrayzvideo3007]

Slava Ukraine

[@Peter_S_]

The building was smoking carelessly. 🚬

[@marinaclarasanchezsuarez2905]

Dont bother to racionalizar the destrucción of the drone. History is always written by the winners. And we All know Who It is. Slava Ukraine ⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@CHixon]

Russia wants that drone for spare parts.

[@jayostrem6214]

Excellent

[@jayduke8554]

Awesome 😊

[@migmadmarine]

Reapers can carry aim-9 air to air missles. Bet boris and ivan would be more circimspect if they heard the missle seeker heads lock on to them😏

[@davidbilich1708]

Well now turkey is going to allow US warships into the black sea for us to "recover" lol the absolutely last thing putin wanted.

[@robertsteele474]

I heard US missiles were extremely effective on Chinese weather balloons 50% of the time.👍

[@gaoxiaen1]

France had better step up to the plate and get busy instead of calling a time out and losing out..

[@dukakisomondi8552]

france is a very weak willed country. i like Poland more.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Video shows the prop on the drone being damaged after the last intercept so the plane must have hit pretty hard. If the prop was damaged that means the tail must have been severely damaged too in order to even reach the prop.

[@casualdrifterendgames7307]

Get in there .!!

[@pastorDbow]

Germany good job to speed support to Ukraine; France needs close inspection and sort out what truly serves NATO.

[@laars0001]

Big German ship finally turning around 👍🏼

[@yvelaine]

Yes we should ramp up production of arms in Europe .

[@timseytiger9280]

The telegraph at it's EU bashing again, by trashing France. France have an excellent point, the joint purchase of ammo. is not just for the present conflict but forward looking to ensure that the EU has it's own indigenous arms production industry. Also the telegraph's buddies in the UK arms industry are dead against this as they see themselves losing out the huge orders being prepared. If the UK were still in the EU they'd be all over the need for Europe to be able to produce their own ammo.

[@badgertheskinnycow]

Agreed. The money is coming from a scheme called 'European defence industry reinforcement through common procurement act (EDIRPA)'. There are a few clues there that the Telegraph forgot to mention I would suggest.

[@jjgreenspan]

...so many interrupting ads in this video, I wish Telegraph would make it easier to listen to their podcasts...

[@lucschoesetters4307]

Well done, for every rocket launched to Ukraine the Ukranians should be given one to fire back at Moscow and St Petersburg. Aatter of equality no?

[@EdwardPike]

Its a "crazy ivan" maneuver. They train on that since ww2

[@U.H8]

💛👍🏻💙Good 💫💫💫

[@paulflinn3521]

Spontaneous (operation) combustion!

[@CrazyEightyEights]

Thanks to Volodiya's monstrous ego, it is a whole new world. 😂

[@barbarafanous6775]

They zero out all storage on the drones, in fact they used the word zero in one context. The software is the valuable part aside from the data it collected

[@hmmcinerney]

🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@tobyw9573]

How can they drag out a blurb's worth of info over a whole hour?

[@katalytically]

One possible counter to Russian influence in Moldova is for Ukraine to help Moldova. It would be easy to make the case that they are grateful to Moldova for housing Ukrainian refugees and Ukraine would like to help Moldova grow economically. Since Russia will be in no position to help Moldova financially for a while, Ukraine may be able to rebuild quickly enough to be able to share in any economic growth.

[@branislavlazin9285]

good good

[@CMB21497]

Couldn't have happened to a better country.

[@cas6110]

Fottage of the drone shows damage to propeller

[@alanchristensen5735]

Thanks for the guest speaker. I'm an American listener and I enjoy your European perspective especially as it relates to geopolitics. Another obvious reason for America to support Taiwan is financial. The Taiwanese produce the best micro processor components. The Ukraine is notable for the exportation of grains and sunflower seeds. Follow the money and it often shows where motives lie.

[@Friendo111]

I don't think the US cares at all about Ukraine's GDP, this is above Ukraine's pay grade, its all about global US economic hegemony and reducing Russia as competition especially in oil and gas.

[@VanBradsling]

I have heard whilst researching anti drone systems that Since the Iranians captured an American drone during the Obama administration which was used to reverse engineer drones for iran Most drones have explosive charges on their internal computing systems, they go off if the drone is in trouble to prevent capture of data, not sure if they did in this case but it's highly likely.

[@laars0001]

Most likely each drone senses a pilot signal, if that signal is lost then boom, if that signal is turned off then boom, basically it uses a 'dead man switch' system, maybe 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@atomicknight2005]

😊

[@1k20a]

​@@laars0001 i hope so

[@richardcowling7381]

Probably more off a case of a controlled self destruct than a dead man type arrangement. Might not want the drone to go bang in some circumstances, such as over a populated area.

[@The_ZeroLine]

It did self-destruct. It also ended up nearly 3,000’ feet deep in water. Salvageable depth of course, but not easy. Also, a US naval ship was allowed through Bosporus Straits to recover it.

[@SavNout01]

Is he serious when he says that they don't know how they could do that remotely wipe a hard drive on a reaper? The guy flying the thing in Nevada has constant communication with the reaper, The cameras record the hard drives they just did a remote wipe! And as far as the SU-27s, why does everyone not understand why they were dumping fuel on it? They were trying to catch it on fire! dump jet fuel on it and the propellers engine might catch it on fire or they fly by and hit the afterburner on it! Why does everyone not understand why they were dumping fuel on this thing?

[@SpringIsBACK]

More likely they were trying to stall the engine.

[@napalmholocaust9093]

The drone probably overwrites it's hard drives like 50 or 100 times as it drops down. It'll be encrypted and whatnot but that won't be an issue very soon and they'll sit on it for years and wait if they thought it was worth doing.

[@nemisis4u]

the telegraph NOTHING TO SEE HERE ABOUT THE LINCOLN PRROJECT

[@tyleroconnellt]

The data on the drone would be heavily encrypted. There is no chance for any external party retrieving the data. The hardware

[@VictorCruz-sp3ro]

The American drone is a flying microphone and camera; data is transmitted live via satellite to its final destination.

[@PeterSedesse]

This happened a day after the us drone was taken down....

[@pmcd6414]

Exactly, look! Russia are spying too! It's so obvious. The poles are always there for their American friends.

[@alastairwallace6153]

Yes interesting, i hope they tell us who, what, how.

[@multipl3]

@@alastairwallace6153 Done by Free Russians ✌✌

[@HungryGhost999]

@@multipl3 yeah there is much more opposition to the war than is being reported. Plenty of partisans working against Putler.

[@danh9002]

The firmware on the drone would likely be useful to the Russians. Fortunately, the US had systems in place to delete the sensitive data.

[@MrBoljangles]

32 million dollar drone, I'd be pissed too if I was the owner.

[@tinaxtony]

They really ought to invest in better smoking shelters

[@paulnicoll7431]

Best example of vermin extermination ever

[@errarehumanumest3810]

Why can't I see any reflection of this event on BBC, on CNN, on Reuters, on DW, or on APNews? Is this real?

[@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl]

What reflection?

[@Harry-wb7uv]

Because it's fake telegraph propaganda

[@larrysteinke1839]

couldn't have happened to a nicer building

[@generalputnam2990]

Fairly decent briefing, considering. Up until the last interview: the old villainous American Enterprise Institute? Really, fellows?

[@alastairwallace6153]

Its not a good day to be FSB sorry KGB and smoke in buildings. Why would there be a fuel tank inside a building?? Could it be american drone was put there already?

[@armchairdude8524]

350 won't be clocking in no more.

[@bee-eu6cg]

Who owns the telegraph

[@edvigq]

Wake Turbulence could destroy a prop blade? Hmmm. Also the US said they initiated the descent after wiping sensitive data.

[@richardmcfarlane5820]

Fuel tank next to building may be kerosene or gas oil for the heating? 🎉

[@b.v.skijump432]

Or fuel for backup gens.

[@johnvissenga328]

explosive gasoil ? 🤣

[@StoptheplanetIwanttogetoff]

Becoming unwatchable with 2 ads every 5 mins (I timed it)

[@nemisis4u]

then dont watch it simple or not

[@kevinshort3943]

Add block plus

[@markwolfe8537]

We can’t see it

[@Anita-k]

54:00 Omg, please take a Putin double, a President Zelenskyy double (or himself after the war) plus other important characters involved and make a James Bond movie with all of them! It should end with the idea of the commentator's username "Putin will hang in the middle of the Kremlin" and it should be done by the Russians themselves ... maybe with Ukrainians, Poles, Georgians, Chechens and other formerly suppressed ex-iron curtain communities helping them to find the right ways to accomplish this goal!

[@johnwoodard1726]

The audio is so bad I could not watch.,!😢

[@joseneves5628]

Hey Russian stop smoking inside of the buildings!!!

[@nemisis4u]

THE TELEGRAPH ARE NOW HAVING GUEST WITH CONNECTIONS TO MINOR ABUSE WHY WHY WHY

[@peace4peaceful]

A lot of fires breaking out for no reason.

[@paulflinn3521]

Spontaneous (operation) combustion!

[@peace4peaceful]

@@paulflinn3521 operator error..has caused a problem..lol

[@0Cico0]

Explosive cigarettes...

[@CRAZYCR1T1C]

Advert every 4mins. Let’s not get too greedy

[@Bob-nd2mr]

only here for the comments, which are more interesting, amusing and informative

[@Interglacial_optimist]

VHS cassette tapes hold 10 trillion times more data then a digital camera. Film absorbs all of the data... Digital cameras collect very little.. that's why digital cameras suck compared to film cameras.

[@Peter_S_]

That is not true at all. A microSD card can hold 2 Terabytes these days which is the equivalent of 240 VHS cassettes. Generally, the standard VHS tape has a capacity of up to 8.3GB. Also, modern professional image sensors have smaller pixel size, larger resolution, and higher dynamic range than film for most uses. Film holds an edge in a lower and lower number of cases every day and most chemical film manufacture has been discontinued.

[@abaysgames]

It how to build your own drown

[@thehellezell]

ugh american enterprise institute…. i thought those hucksters only bothered to pollute our media here in the states

[@alexgamboa3669]

It happened 4 mos ago . Am already old it's not the latest 😜😜😜

[@raspberryjellydoughnut5727]

Where's the video it's unwatchable like this

[@colinobrien3806]

forget about the drones self destructing what about f35s or typhoons protecting nato/u.s assets been scrambled inside international airspace , 40min attack too short to get friendly forces to make su-27s disengage a clear provocation ? im not saying to attack but at least be around and let russia know its limitations of what we will tolerate . thats a victory for them , 2 f35s would have stopped that immediatley , without a shot been fired russian pilots aint that stupid if politely asked to go or else

[@albevargiu]

Irgoli None l'avvocato di daga società morredu ma e così puliti quella avvocato comeassasino collegato a Padru Olbia sicure e hotel e villaggi

[@2nd3rd1st]

The Bachmut stalemate may be the consequence of the sunk-cost-fallacy, where Ukraine poured so many lives into defending the city that retreating now would most certainly obliterate the value of their sacrifices.

[@marymarlow3646]

I don’t think this is how it’s seen. For one thing they are not trying to save the city. It’s already destroyed. It’s thought that Zelensky doesn’t want to see this happen to another city. My personal suspicion is that he doesn’t want to give the Russians a morale boost ahead of their counter offensive.

[@2nd3rd1st]

@@marymarlow3646 Possible

[@SpringIsBACK]

@@marymarlow3646 Looking at the roads and rail, Bakhmut is a good spot from which to attack to the North, and clockwise (eastward) around to the South, into Russian held territories. That is, a force in Bakhmut can attack along one of several roads, causing Russia to have to place many troops in a defensive arc. If Russia holds Bakhmut, it requires fewer troops to defend the "East."

[@pashakdescilly7517]

The Russians have expended far more effort, materiel and soldiers' lives in their effort to seize Bakhmut. The sunk cost is by Russia. They are suffering many hundreds of soldiers dead every day there.

[@vincegraham421]

Simply format or delete

[@hicsunt1589]

? In English?

[@nemisis4u]

OPEN LETTER TO EDITOR OF THE TELEGRAPH i do not to wish listen to anybody who are connected to minor abuse ie the lincoln project we know who thay are we know what thay have done pleases inform your team them of this other wise the telegraph is surrporting dhild abuse

[@patrickpullen9063]

Miner abuse? The Lincoln project will face real problems in coal country

[@Interglacial_optimist]

A huge unseen war in eastern Ukraine where people are putting cameras on things. Lol These are some headlines from Ukraine on the ground except neither of the first two storeys are in Ukraine. And for every camera found there are 500 probably somewhere else.

[@cizlerable]

Not much of a turning 'point' is it?

[@Interglacial_optimist]

Laws are for losers... Splash 1 us drone Next

[@Interglacial_optimist]

Risk open ridicule.. oh no... Will they not get the dinner invitation to King Charles silver jubilee? Dom says the Russians could get ridiculed by all of the inferior countries.

[@nemisis4u]

staurt stevens and the telgraph gagen dumheit gottes kampfen what happen to honest reoprting

[@TheBrettarcher]

then we have UK con who are just as bad

[@krazyswede11]

😂❤😂❤😂🎉 Ukraine is winning🎉🎉🎉 Russia is running out of missiles and munitions🎉🎉🎉 the collective West's sanctions are working, they have isolated Russia from the banking crisis😮😮😮🎉🎉🎉🎉 Slava Z'Baby❤✝️🇷🇺

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Great sources of news in the fog of disinformation lately >>>Alexander Mercouris channel UK & 'The New Atlas' US