DEALING with CYBER BULLYING and MENTAL HEALTH - VAN LIFE

Speak up about mental health: #speakupforlee
Its been a heartbreaking couple of weeks in the vanlife community as we learn about the tragic news of Lee Macmillan... RIP beautiful Lee, you will be missed by so many..
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[@paulhuggan-cammack2928]

I don't know where society is heading. I have real concerns about the use of social media and its darker side. For people to be able to put so much pressure on someone to the point of them deciding that they can no longer carry on with life is despicable. I have been on the end of something similar recently, and have been disgusted with what people think is acceptable to say and do. Thank you so very much for having the 'responsibility' to bring up and discuss this growing problem. Why can't we live and thrive together?

[@elaineagar6128]

I also think that we shouldn't think everyone can cope. We had loads of mental hospital in the UK all were full with people not coping x

[@VanInhalin]

Lee killed herself. Nobody else killed her or made her do it. She likely had a chemical imbalance. Its sad, but it happens.

[@EndersWorlds]

@@VanInhalin I'm afraid I respectfully disagree. I've heard a couple of people saying that it's nobodies fault that she did it, because she had depression and therefore what other people did had no bearing on it. But I don't think that's right, because depression makes you vulnerable, not necessarily inevitably going to harm yourself. Some people can't cope and need support and help, but also they need other people to be kind and responsible for their actions and aware of how those actions might impact on a vulnerable person. I think it's all our responsibility to make sure our behaviour and words doesn't become the trigger for someone in a vulnerable state harming themselves. Suicide often has a trigger. In this case it seems extremely likely from what family and friends are saying, that the trigger was indeed online bullying (in fact Lee appeared on an episode of Eamon and becs podcast just a month ago and even speaks about how badly the online bullying had affected her mind state). She didn't need to die just because she had depression. Dying happened only with the extra pressure from external sources. That being the bullying.

[@VanInhalin]

@@EndersWorlds There would be a ton more YT suicides. All channels catch a ton of flack. From what I understand she was in cali? Maybe if canada's covid lockdown wasn't so authoritarian she could have visited family and still be alive. Pretty much anyone under 30 that kills themselves is due to a chemical imbalance.

[@stevezytveld6585]

@@VanInhalin On behalf of the "chemically imbalanced"... suicide doesn't "just happen". That is a stone cold way to view humanity. She was relentlessly bullied. Full stop. No debate. The evidence has been removed by the users (thankfully there are places like "The Way Back Machine" to keep copies of these things so her family and friends can sue for damages - it's the internet kids... you yell into the void and the void will track you...). Personally I hope Dave2D looses every single dime he earned by being a disgusting human being. He's trying to raise money off of her death. That should tell you all you need to know about this "man". This happens to our children. This happens to our teenagers. This happens to adults. People being perfectly awful to their fellow humans has somehow become acceptable. It has to stop. If every single cyberbully has to be sued into the dust to make that happen, then so be it. Words. Have. Consequences. - Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown

[@BigVanSmallWorld]

I really wanted to make a video about Lee but just couldn’t bring myself to do it so upsetting well done for this 👍

[@StacyForest738]

And also the issue I see with making a video about Lee is that I have seen many over the past couple of weeks trying to basically make money off of her death which is just beyond tacky. The Expawers hit a good balance, tasteful, respectful and not trying to capitalize or exploit her life and memory.

[@theexPAWers]

Cheers Mel.. It’s been a hard couple of weeks for this community.. Take care buddy 🚐👫🐕‍🦺🦮

[@BigVanSmallWorld]

@@theexPAWers thank you you all stay safe too ✌️

[@kitchenworker446]

My mum taught me " if you don't have anything nice to say- say nothing" and mum is always right. Also - trolls are cowards, you are right. Personally i watch you two guys because I think you are both lovely people so just like you said - ignore the nasty comments and remember the nice ones.

[@elaineagar6128]

So did mine x i don't understand the nastiness of people x

[@kitchenworker446]

@@elaineagar6128 it feels like it is getting worse, I hope I am wrong.

[@elaineagar6128]

I dont think the pampering of kids has toughened them enough to retaliate in this world back you like have a thick skin in my day you were told smack them back . I said to my kids anyone threatens you or you get told off let go over your head then smile . Im 54 and we had it tough back in the day men touching lewd comments but it made us tough. X

[@kitchenworker446]

@@elaineagar6128 That sounds harsh for you, I know what you mean but I was lucky and my childhood was very good and I was lucky that I was never bullied or picked on. I do think Cyber bullying is enteirely different though.

[@michelelynn6914]

@@kitchenworker446 Agreed these coward bullies feel so brave behind their keyboards. Cyber bullying is stuff us older folks didn't have to deal with at home in you safe zone.

[@nealeburgess6756]

I was saddened to hear of Lee's passing. She was a lovely person. Sadly, I lost my younger son to suicide a few years ago. Like Lee, he was a lovely kind hearted, hard working and intelligent young person. May I say to anyone suffering, whether from cyber bullying or from any other cause, please ask for help. I know it is hard, and potentially embarassing to confide your thoughts to someone. But please do seek help. Death is never the best alternative. And to you, Nick and Sarah, you have so many people that love you. Never forget that. Don't let the hatred of the trolls break through the love of the thousands of people that follow you.

[@lakenovember4694]

Lovely comment and very kind of you to share such a great sadness, hope you are keeping well and safe as possible wherever you are, big hug from UK 🙏

[@theexPAWers]

Hey Neale.. So Sorry to hear about your son.. Sending so much love to you, thanks for this heartwarming message to everyone who may be suffering.. Hope your weekend is going ok xxxx

[@2wheelsrbest327]

Really sorry to read about you losing your son Neale and I know the pain lessens but never goes away. As a 70 year old man who uses Social Media I only use positive comments as I know criticism would be hard to take so how much tougher is it for someone very much younger.

[@Debbitslife]

How do you even go to seek help anymore in this day and age. People don't care

[@theexPAWers]

@@Debbitslife people do care Debbie, lots of people care, we are all living in a crazy world at the moment and it’s very tough times for so many, but things WILL get better.. And we all have to remember this...Sending lots of love to you ❤️❤️

[@mraverage1976]

I feel for Max. He's lost the woman he loves twice! I'm so sorry. They made you tube vanlife for me. I was so upset when they split. Love to Max, occy and Lees family! ❤

[@theexPAWers]

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[@phoebevanderhorst7760]

Yes.

[@lesliewheeler4785]

RIParadise Lee..much love and respect for the gifts that she & max & occy shared..♥️

[@danacole2451]

Max didnt lose anyone..they broke up 2 yrs ago

[@katherinecrow6883]

@@danacole2451 That’s a ridiculous thing to say.

[@cyndeeh]

I go by something my mom taught me. "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all". We need more live,and understanding in this world.

[@theexPAWers]

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[@WillsWhereabouts]

So sad to hear about Lee. I’ve been realising and noticing myself how negative and opinionated KZbin/social media can be, it really can become soul destroying. No matter how many positive comments you get the negative ones always stick. I’m learning to remove any negative comments and not give the trolls the satisfaction of a reply! Happy camping guys!

[@sarahcox9284]

Will's whereabouts,that is a good way of thinking when it comes to the trolls and haters. I find some peoples comments absolutely despicable. I love The Expawers,and I discovered your channel this week and very much enjoyed it. Take care and stay positive.

[@jamesbosslet994]

Hi Will, good to see that you support this channel!! Love your vids!!

[@theexPAWers]

Thanks so much❤️.. We have learnt over the last week or so just how bad Lee had it with cyber bullying and it’s just awful, we’ve experienced nothing in comparison.. Just can’t believe it😢.. Thanks for watching x

[@Electrowave]

The trolls seek attention. Without it they will have to go elsewhere. Will, you need a bigger van! :-)

[@robchin-yue6667]

@@jamesbosslet994 Innit - small world eh? Shame it is filled with so many nasty peeps! Also love Wills content and personality!

[@paulosborne6637]

What goes around, comes around. Take care. Ignore any haters. You guys are much loved.

[@chrisneedham5803]

'What goes around, comes around'. I hope so. I find the more educated someone is the more Narcissistic they are, and have a total lack of morality and compassion.

[@theexPAWers]

awwwww, Thankyou so much Paul ☺️☺️xx

[@rosemaryspencer1501]

Yes.

[@andreacarr1506]

I LOVE YOU TWO MY FAVOURITE CHANNEL. SO SAD NEWS . KEEP SMILING GUYS YOUR AMAZING AND YOUR CHANNEL MAKES ME SMILE . SO THANK YOU FOR THAT . 🌸🌸🌸🌸

[@theexPAWers]

awwwww, Thankyou Andrea.. Sending love to you ☺️☺️xx

[@starcorpvncj]

Depression is truly an enemy to be feared. I suffered chronic depression for many years. Once someone said to me it must be hard to be in the bottom of a deep hole. I exclaimed 'With depression there is no bottom to the hole. You are just falling and you don't know why. This is why depression is so hard to combat.' Love and understanding are the best treatment. Uncle Zip from Da Lat in Vietnam.

[@theexPAWers]

❤️❤️.. Thanks for sharing this Zip, take care over there, sending love as always x

[@carolynrude2830]

You have always brought us so much joy. Please know that

[@staceyblakey8485]

You guys are the most unselfish, caring and positive people - I watch you because you are genuine and this honest vlog just makes me love you even more. You always show the beauty wherever you are in the world and inspire us all to go and see it. Xx

[@theexPAWers]

Wow! Thanks so much for your really kind words, we appreciate that Stacey❤️

[@catemistruzzistaff7155]

Those who hurt hurt others. It is a sad fact of how much suffering there is in the world. This is why it is so important for those of us who know kindness to share it wide and far, as you two do in your videos. Lee lived not far from me in Ontario, Canada and I had the pleasure of meeting her once. She radiated kindness and that's how I will remember her.

[@theexPAWers]

awwwww, Thankyou for this nice message Cate, very true.. Sending love to you ☺️☺️xx

[@allisonsherman7231]

Thank you for broaching this subject. Lee was so gifted, and a gift! I live in a van and it was such a shock to hear this.Their channel was one of my favorites also. She had so much to offer in helping others. It was tough enough to battle depression but to be bullied online in front of tens of thousands of people....is criminal. The bullying needs to stop! It’s so sad that it went this far that a life has ended. You guys are awesome! ❤️❤️🐶🐶

[@theexPAWers]

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[@MissyQ12345]

Depression can drag you down so far. It is scary sometimes. I have been "in the pit" for years. I live alone and am a little shunned by family who live within a 5-minute walk. They can be so cruel in their little cliques. I try to make uplifting comments to people like you cuz you give me entertainment and laughter. The trolls are unhappy people who want to drag you down to their level. It makes me angry. I think you two are full of love and peace.

[@seanfennessey1851]

There's so much I could say about todays society and why we're at the point we are. Don't engage with the negative, say what you have to say, and leave them to it. Don't feed their energy. Stay strong and much love to you both (& the dogs!)

[@lisakeatingyoga]

..an thanks for honoring Lee! So special 💖 been feeling so sad an its lovely to feel community support.. xo

[@howardm-b4830]

A tough week. Sorry about your friends passing. Bullying is a major problem around the world. Here is to happier days and sunnier skies. You two are a treat to watch and your lovely doggies.

[@jeanniebeankartis3088]

Heartbreaking.....her light may have dimmed but still shines....I miss her...😢🙏❤

[@roywright9804]

Lee and Max is how I found van life so in away I felt as if I knew them! Through their travels and then sharing their their adventures she was a sweet woman

[@elisabethe8055]

What happened to Lee was a real chock not only to van lifers but to subscribers too. She was the essence of LIFE, so vivid, in the moment and so radiant. I am still in disbelief and cant get it in my head that this soul of light is gone. May she rest in peace, and all my thoughts goes to her family, friends, and her large community. My thoughts about being a subscriber to a channel is that i am privileged. Privileged to take part of your lifes, ups and downs, i learn a lot, i get to see allot from places i cant go my self. I feel so lucky to be able to travel through your eyes, and i cant imaging being rude, nasty or just a D--K as a gratitude to what you are so generously sharing. What this has taught me is to not being silent when i see comments that are out of line, that is offensive and rude. We all in a democratic society have the freedom to speak, you can say what you want, think what you want, but that is NOT equal to have the right to hurt or bullying others. Internet users think that they are safe being the worst that they can be behind their screens, and the only thing that can stop that is all other of us using internet, to make it clear it is NOT ok to behave like a toad.. You cant argue with these people but you can report them and tell youtube that we wont have this anymore, to try to force them to change their take on youtube viewers. It is a task to take on, but we got to try, right? Thank you for sharing, if i cant say antýthing nice, i wont say anything at all.. Peace.

[@theexPAWers]

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[@jasonmackeseyfitness4586]

So beautiful you two!! As someone who has always enjoyed van life content and has dreamed of trying it out myself hearing this is incredibly heartbreaking. Sending love to you and the entire community it’s definitely a sad reminder for all of us to be the best people we can and love others.

[@theexPAWers]

Thanks Jason.. Sending love

[@simplelivingbigadventures101]

Social media can be great but equally soul destroying. It is so sad that people feel they have the right to judge others and to voice their opinions - if you don't like someone's content, just unsubscribe and move on!! Hiding behind a screen makes people far more confident to say hurtful things - I'm pretty sure they wouldn't say those things to the person's face. Thanks for this video - the world needs kindness, especially now!!!

[@londonjacks8371]

Such tragic news about that beautiful young woman Lee, truly a very talented warm hearted kind and passionate person, as a father of a daughter my heart bleeds for her parents loss. You should know that you all touch the hearts of thousands of people around the world, your love for each other, your dogs and your Van life adventures are an inspiration to many who will never get the opportunity to visit the places you travel to. Much love to you all. LJ & SP

[@theexPAWers]

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[@killj802]

The people who shout the loudest have the least to say. You both have always been respectful, helpful and your channel is wonderful, a troll is someone who cannot achieve what their target has achieved, pitiful people with nothing to offer. Your attitude handling them is the way to go. Stay safe, keep the content coming and raise a glass in remembrance to the ones we’ve lost. 🍷

[@theexPAWers]

🍷.. Yes for sure! Thankyou so much ❤️ x

[@janp7943]

Nick and Sara thank you so much for talking about Lee, bullying, and mental illness. It is just so sad for anyone to commit suicide. I love you guys and the doggies. You bring so much joy to me. In my mind I think I know you and am traveling with you! Take care and see you next time.

[@theexPAWers]

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[@nf2626]

What a sad week in particular ,so sad to hear about lee also. I enjoy all the van families so you guys keep smiling and healthy and thank you for for been real 💕🥰🇮🇪

[@susanlarson215]

Beautiful tribute to Lee. Love you guys and your little doggies. 💖🐾💖

[@michelelynn6914]

The news of Lee was so sad and Words Matter. He is such coward for attacking her from behind his keyboard and Karma is not something to mess with!!! We all need to be kind to each other

[@krahmerlicious]

Exactly. Dave2d (not the tech review guy) made money off the relentless bullying of others. Lee asked him to stop his behavior more than once and he kept bullying and bullying. He's not sorry about it one bit. He's just sorry this time it might have hurt his "career."

[@Mel.H_]

Always remember of all those internet trolls I would venture to say 99%of those people don't feel any empathy. And being able to feel empathy is pretty much what makes us human. Be kind to yourself as well ❤

[@suetocker1914]

Thank you for addressing this, I was so saddened and shocked about Lee's death. You two are good, good people, sending much kindness across the miles from New Zealand xxxxxx

[@karenlewkowitz5858]

You both are pure beauty and love - so sad to hear how things can get so ridiculous. Like Nick said, some trolls are Very Hungry. Sign of the times. Love the way you tell your stories and like a jazz duo, work beautifully, colourfully, and creatively together 🔥🔥☄️☄️🦴🦴🌊🌊🥯🥯

[@colinwishbone4437]

Aheartfelt genuine video from you two lovely people and you adorable dogs.Super filming of your local area.Thank you and take care

[@patrickjames3559]

You are two of the nicest people on the channel, I am envious of your lifestyle. Take care.

[@dotwillcoxson5352]

We are full of admiration for you both. Kind and generous of spirit. Thank you and we love your channel 🦘🦘🦘

[@DanniandJoe]

Thanks for sharing your feelings, we felt exactly the same. So so tragic, Lee inspired us as she did many

[@paulabooeylewin4673]

Well done for speaking out for Lee, such devastating news. We love watching you guys, you are much loved believe me 😘x

[@donnam2684]

💚 Sending you extra love today, I hope it drowns out some of the troll voices. You approached this subject with your characteristic empathy and sincerity, and you are very much appreciated.

[@theexPAWers]

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[@carolinenobach5784]

Thank you so much for addressing this subject because I've been haunted by Lee's passing knowing what anguish she was feeling from cyberbullying. It helps to hear from good hearted people that are spreading kindness. Bless you!

[@lucyherbert8789]

You guys are just lovely, don't let the haters get you down. The fact that you would take the time to broach these difficult subjects makes me love you even more!

[@elaineagar6128]

I was so shocked when I heard about Lee . I was as shocked with Caroline Flack. Heartbreaking ❤

[@amymoseleysmith7494]

Trying to wrap my head around People trying to make money off of the Human frailties of another.....WICKED!.....I CHERISH YOU GUYS. You make my world brighter! ♥️

[@marymaclean6047]

Hi Nick and Sarah We are 2 old fogies who since retiring, have been loving your van life adventures. We are Scottish and have been living in Canada for 33 years. We always enjoy your videos and the banter, as we feel so at home listening to you. You are so down to earth, and do things in such a relaxed, but informative manner. We especially love your drone shots. Your wee dogs are so cute, and funny. Many times I am thinking something and the next minute you seem to answer my silent question. There will always be haters, who should be pitied, as their lives must be so devoid of love and friendship, that they must drag anyone they can down with them. As my wee mum used to say”never stoop to their level” very wise words to live by. Please take care and stay safe. Sending you good luck and hope that the light shines bright at the end of this tunnel.

[@theexPAWers]

awwwww, Thankyou guys for such a lovely message ☺️☺️xx

[@Lol-gy9qd]

Shocking news about Lee, I’ve followed them for a long time. So sad 😞🙏

[@andrewstagg2889]

Keep doing what you are doing guys. Love your positivity, ignore the negatively and the trolls. Really touched by the sad news about Lee. Stay safe and hugs to the dogs

[@susanscovill6817]

Thank you for speaking up for Lee. She had been very open about her depression and the bullying. She was such a ray of light and inspired so many to get out and travel. Emails should have to be trackable and everyone should be held accountable. Too many use fake names and handles. COWARDS! I have even been trolled by guys who have read my comments. Sick shits! Loved the hike with the pups. Beautiful view! See you next vlog. Cheers from Canader eh!

[@theexPAWers]

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[@jgkgintx]

Very well done, a very tough subject but you handled it very well. "Every person's death affects me, for I am a part of mankind." I recall seeing a tv documentary on a very wealthy individual who was asked what would he do if he had his life to live over. Having several fabulous homes, plenty of fame and fortune, I wondered what his reply would be. It was, ""To be kinder." Oh my, that fits so well in what you guys said in your video...to be kind to others, and to yourself. Lee was a beautiful person in so many ways, she will be greatly missed here on Earth. Thank you again for your touching video.

[@kathrynsargent5769]

I was taught that, if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all. There’s no reason to spread negativity.

[@nomade1697]

Agreed. I learnt this myself as life continued after a negative upbringing as a kid; a smile and kindness is free

[@PoshcatsCamping]

Very courageous subject to tackle guys. Love that you said what you said and it was just enough. Hugs to you both 💕 Trev n Sue

[@theexPAWers]

Thanks guys xx

[@RockyRoadCreationsbyDiana]

Now you guys have class. No dramatic headlines to get views. Thank you for this video. I never met Lee but my heart breaks for her.

[@theexPAWers]

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[@clownheads5073]

Very sad news, thank you for talking about the importance of kindness. We all need a bit more of that in the world. Love you guys! ❤

[@gym_witchmoto3963]

I think the main thing we need to remember is there are far more good people than bad ones. Love your content guys. Love watching what you are doing and where you are going and also what you are cooking !!! Not to mention those two gorgeous little doglettes 🥰 Thanks for posting your vids 💕

[@tonyrepairs5558]

Everyone loves you guys. Who cant love them two dogs, dizzy and Charlie. Amazing videos. Keep it up 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@somersetgirl125]

Evil thrives when good men do nothing. It’s up to all of us to discourage online hate in any way we can by blocking, reporting or simply not engaging with such people.

[@sadski1]

We love your channel and you bring some joy in sharing your ventures especially when we can’t venture at the moment. Thank you for sharing the very sad news, we have followed Max & Lee and ochi on their adventures. Also Lees in Morocco with her friends and back home in Canada. She will be missed. Condolences to her family and friends. RIP Lee

[@MariafromthePhilippineIslands]

I had always been a loyal fan of this couple. Though I don't comment much lately but they know I always watch their videos. Stay safe guys... You both have beautiful souls!! 🥰🥰

[@CriticalRoleHighlights]

When I started out doing KZbin years and years ago, even one single negative comment was gut-wrenching. But one day I saw another KZbinr I respected answer a hate comment in a calm and polite manner. He said "I make videos for those who like it, not for those who don't. Which means your opinion is completely irrelevant." That was an epiphany. From that day onward I never felt bad about negativity on the internet ever again. It gave me peace of mind. People who don't like you or the content you make are completely irrelevant because they're not the people you're doing it for anyway, so why should their opinion even matter? They're just nameless faceless people on the internet. They just don't matter.

[@beaulieuc8910]

I think it gets scary when they start stalking you, that's what happened to me. Some trolls hate to be blocked and they want revenge

[@damienlafferty7555]

Try not to listen to these sad people always remember we all love you and that all that matters you always bring a smile to our faces ❤

[@lorrainebright3045]

Hi to you both, so sorry to hear about Lee, thinking of her family. it's heart breaking. It's bound to have an effect on you and really anyone who has been watching. Please carry on doing what you do and living the life you have. You are both an inspiration to me and many others. I think over the next few years van lifers and generally anyone who travels around is gonna find it harder., but it will quieten down. We love watching your channel, you give us hope. Best wishes x

[@wendykillcrece707]

You guys are so natural & real , love watching you & your precious boys 💕👍❤️

[@gillbarrett2852]

I don't follow many channels but I do love yours. Unfortunately those who hate do shout the loudest and have a disproportionate effect on their victims. I love your outlook on life and positivity. Thank you for what you do 💕

[@theexPAWers]

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[@ems_out_there]

Thank you so much guys, for taking time out to discuss that subject. So sorry to hear that you too have been victim to trolls 😔 but thank you for spreading as much positivity that you can! You guys are wonderful! Keep up the amazing vlogs and keep on being you! 🤗 Love to you all! 💖💚💕

[@theexPAWers]

Love you too! Thanks Emma xxx

[@clivetaylor27]

It is very powerful of you to continually present such lifting material, I hope producing such has the same beautifying effect on yourselves, and never stop.

[@keithh8661]

Max and lee was what got me into following van lifers,. Love you guys! Thanks

[@jacquelinebell9186]

😊 your dogs are lovely... and very lucky, by the look of it. ❤️❤️❤️

[@daveyprice7266]

my mental health drove me to go on the road now 5 years full timer van lifer now R.I.P LEE blessing davey

[@daveyprice7266]

@my world my way blessing to you both and take care x

[@krisaiken5164]

Thank you both for talking about this. It is such terrible news. I loved the Max and Lee channel too. It is heartbreaking that people can be so horrifically nasty to others. Keep up the positivity. ❤️

[@JenShea]

Lee’s death has effected so many of us. It seemed that after the breakup there were certain people who picked on her. Horrible, and sad. She had a lovely light spirit in many ways. Breaks my heart. I’m glad you brought it up. 🤗take care.

[@BrawTravels]

Thanks for covering guys, it takes so much energy to be horrid, nasty, how empty and void must their life be. I still can’t believe what Lee had to go through. I can’t stop thinking about the whole situation. Stay safe guys. 💕🙏

[@susieturk1]

I kind of think it takes a weak person to be mean, to be nice I think you have to be strong especially in the world today 💔

[@theexPAWers]

❤️❤️❤️

[@andrewkends]

Maybe social media should only allow thumbs up and positive comments. We love you guys👍👍👍

[@carolecooper4210]

I don’t know how anyone could be nasty to you both, I love watching your channel and any content you put up. You both make my day. Hello from Australia.

[@ramblinginramsey1395]

Thanks so much for dealing with these subjects. Your videos have brought me a lot of joy during this pandemic. Life is what you make it, and you make your life lots of fun. Bless you.

[@lorrainecornwell6232]

You are so right, ignore the haters and spread only positivity. Lovely vlog, really nicely said. 🥰

[@ankiolebring8388]

Just love from me to you two lovely people 😙🙏🏼

[@dream2be611]

Hey, today's my birthday, so be happy for me. I struggling too, but I refuse to let it get me down. I going to stay positive, and only think happy thoughts. It's hard to do, but screw depression and frustration. Today is going to be a good day.

[@theexPAWers]

Happy Birthday Doreen! It’s my Birthday too today!! (Sarah) Good for you to not let things get you down, stay strong and I’m sending you lots of love on your birthday 🥳 xxxx

[@marianwagemakers151]

I am in shock! It didn't yet know about Lee. So sorry! I love you both. Do not ever forget it. You always make me happy. Please look to the people that love you.

[@hopeheavenonplanetearth1417]

How so many of us look to KZbin for lifting our spirits, never realizing how hard it is for the community to stay up all of the time for others... Thank you for your shout out for our friend Lee. It is sad entertainment for the trolls. They need mental health counseling, and we can’t stop the hate... only remind each other that it isn’t important for everyone’s approval 🙏😘

[@theexPAWers]

❤️❤️❤️

[@petereg2354]

Love and Compassion... 🐾💕

[@deborahwhitt4363]

So sorry you had to go through bullying as well. I commented on your FB page but have to say I agree with all you’ve said. Sending prayers and hugs to you both! Love the apron Nick! Lol love you guys mucho

[@marktalbot4wd]

I have a very small channel, 650 subs, it’s growing, slowly, I do it as a hobby, but I’ve been horrified at the abuse thrown randomly at me, it really makes you shudder to think what is going on inside some peoples heads that make them lash out, hurling abuse at you, for basically offering some a form of entertainment. I put it don to the sad and and sorry lives these people have, who are some consumed with hate and envy, that they act this way. Unfortunately, this is a side of social media that a lot of people don’t see, especially as creators. Keep up the great work.

[@chuckylamb4398]

These people are not worth thinking about. Please don’t let them upset you. It must damage them more than you, all that hatred inside them.😘😘🇬🇧

[@theexPAWers]

Thankyou so much ❤️ x

[@rickm283]

We don't hate you, we love you, these are people who are jealous, cos you life style is brilliant.. and now governments are trying to force you to there camp sites. We can't see anything you're doing wrong..❤👍

[@gereshomeE]

This looked very painful and hard for both of you to make. You have decency and courage and things NEED to change!

[@rosn55]

Respect guys and RIP Lee. So terribly sad xx

[@sheshe902]

I think people are so jealous because they would love to live life so free but they don’t have the guts or they’ve fallen for the “what we’re SUPPOSED to do”. They’re miserable and instead of fixing their own life they try to tear yours down. I’d just pity them and move on.

[@theexPAWers]

So true! Thankyou so much ❤️ x

[@oscaryjavita]

Difficult to comment this video, guys. It was shocking to read about Lee last week. But as Nick said: if you don't like it, unsubscribe. We send you lots of love 💕

[@theexPAWers]

❤️❤️❤️

[@caroleking283]

Love watching all of your videos...very uplifting. ❤️❤️❤️

[@barrbuff]

So sorry for the loss of Lee. She was such a beautiful person and the world will miss her terribly.

[@theexPAWers]

❤️

[@elizabethmaybrown6715]

It's so sad about this young woman, Liam the Terrible mentioned it in his vlog last week 😢 I was bought up to respect others and not be unkind( except for my Ex husband that is) if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Great to hear that Jackery is available this side of the Atlantic, one Canadian vanlifer I follow is sponsored by them, maybe one day I might be able to get one for my van😉 stay safe all of you😊

[@theexPAWers]

❤️❤️❤️

[@Scud_and_thesTig]

That police attitude is worrying isn’t it? Do you suspect Valencia’s attitudes are spreading countrywide? 🙄💙❤️

[@theexPAWers]

It is worrying.. We just hope things get back to normal soon!

[@debbieholman906]

Hello. Greetings from Minnesota USA. thank your for your kind message about Lee. You guys are a wonderful couple. First time viewing your site. Lots of positive vibes. Looking forward to watching your journey.

[@theexPAWers]

awwwww, Thankyou so much Debbie, welcome to our channel ☺️☺️xx

[@obedevert28]

Just saw the video today. I am so sorry for the loss.

[@Snoogleheimer]

LMAO! Boy, those little doggies were thirsty.

[@tracyandian1335]

Ignore the bullies and haters, they don't compare to how much everyone loves you guys. My favourite Vanners 👍❤️👍❤️

[@theexPAWers]

awwwww, Thankyou! ☺️☺️xx

[@AndyHuff38]

As you know,my wife and I have just subbed etc and was looking back at your vlogs and came across this one. Firstly,we'd like to offer our condolences to everyone that knew Lee,immediate friends and van lifers that were affected by this sad event. Mental Health has affected my family and more so my close friends so I know how it first hand what a devastating impact it can have. Cyber bullying IS a serious crime and should he dealt with in the harshest way possible in my view. Lastly,we'd like to thank you for bringing this onto a vlog as this must have been difficult for you to do so we send our love to you. Best wishes and stay safe 🫂 🤗 xx

[@lindarobin5841]

Thank you for your kind words and for sharing your own experiences. I am glad to have found your channel. Your warmth and sincerity come through and the pups are beyond precious. I look forward to seeing more of your journey. Been a follower of Eamon and Bec, The Matneys and Max and Lee for ~3 years. I, like many felt like I knew Lee. I am heartbroken for her family and friends. I believe her family’s proactive focus on raising awareness and support for mental health and fighting cyber bullying strengthens and continues Lee’s advocacy. I am still amazed at the incredible response, mostly supportive and kind that her untimely death has created. Thanks again for being a part of shining a light on this painful but much needed discussion. 🥰💔💜

[@theexPAWers]

Thanks so much Linda, sending love to you ❤️❤️

[@kristinasimons4842]

Tough topic. Good for you for taking it on. Much love to all who struggle with mental health issues

[@rosemarygrant996]

Pretty blown away by your comments. Wow. Stumbled on your channel a while back and watch every new episode and binge watch a lot of old ones whenever. Thank you for what you do, it is much appreciated. Big hug from a stranger who feels like they know and really like you.

[@theexPAWers]

Thankyou so much Rosemary❤️ x

[@GlendaHayward]

So enjoyed your blog. Thank you so much.

[@ltwig476]

If one chooses to expose a part of their private life to the vast public, it is to be expected to be treated as all celebrities have been treated for centuries. Reading a book seems to have the same general outcome. If writers or artist cannot take the negativity, they should not expose their work to the vast public. On the opposing, we know there are vast numbers of miserable folks that like making others miserable. I suppose, KZbinrs should simply say "your'e welcome for us making your miserable life seem less miserable" Maybe a worldwide T-shirt campaign is in order. So sorry for Lee and her family. I too watched Max, Lee and Occy from the beginning. Thank you guys for taking the time to expose this social problem.