Dealing with Men as a Masc Woman

[@Bre-ZNova]

especially if your an attractive masc lesbian, men can’t stand it and will make it known that they don’t like it!! I just really be ignoring these dudes which makes them even more upset but ion really gaf bc I be taller than a lot of them lol. It’s a blessin and curse fr

[@wingnut71]

So much cope. Straight men don't even see you. You are invisible to us because you have nothing we want.

[@Bre-ZNova]

⁠@@wingnut71I really do wish this was true. My aura makes insecure men go crazy.

[@wingnut71]

@@Bre-ZNova Yeah, sure. Whatever you need to tell yourself. Straight men don't find the butch masculine look attractive. Only attractive femme lesbians or bisexual girls get any interest from straight men.

[@akinyiomer4589]

​​@@wingnut71 So can I ask what you're doing here on a niche video about a kinda niche topic?? Like, there's literally billions of pieces of internet content out there for straight dudes but you're hanging out in the tiny corner for lesbian/bi and sapphic women because... ?? I dunno man. For this video to end up in your algorithm somehow it seems like you *do* notice masc lesbians. Cause YT will throw up femme lesbians at you as standard searches 'til you specify. It seems like you notice masc lesbians A LOT my dude. Like ... a lot, a lot.

[@wingnut71]

@@akinyiomer4589 lol. Nice deflection. The algorithm does what the algorithm does. I just click on what looks curious or strange, or weird or crazy. This one fell into the "crazy" category.

[@stevie83]

I'm thankful everyday that I am a big,tall and muscular woman which creates a comfortable safer environment for women around me who don't realize the danger their in even in engaging with males.

[@Raddiebaddie]

Beautiful!!

[@Lucky.girl.17]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@Lucky.girl.17]

How Tall ar you?? ❤

[@Lucky.girl.17]

I love that type of woman

[@buttercvm1201]

Ong even as a 15 years old girl im very big for my age so whenever some girl asks for my help from boys that bully them (which surprisingly happens very often) I'm always there and i feel like a mf from a wattpad story lol

[@meganmorrissey238]

I needed this man, I feel so alone sometimes being surrounded by fems or straight mates they don't fully see the disgust and the rage we get from men. It's got to be insecurity because if you didn't care you wouldn't even bother, it's still so so frustrating to deal with though. Thanks for making this always following your moves, keep doing you dude

[@r1v3r74]

Yeah but not just men , woman also.I mean the homophobes. Relatable as a presenting masc girl i often get this dirty looks.They only tolerate it in some extent so i mostly behave and try not to get involved in anything.

[@Taytaystegall]

​@@r1v3r74it be more women than men to be honest

[@naraferalina2308]

@@Taytaystegall Not in my experience. Shitty people come in every shape and size. It just seems like men try to make it into a sport sometimes

[@Taytaystegall]

@@naraferalina2308 women make it into a sport too. why u tryna make it seem like it's just men doing it ?

[@janb92]

Yeah I have 1 guy friend because he’s the only one who has ever been respectful and still kind after finding out I only like women. They’re so insecure and immature so when you call them out even in a polite way, they REFUSE to take accountability or grow tf up. They just deflect, gaslight and blame women and even children for everything horrible they do. Obviously it is not all of them but it is definitely MOST of them. Even the ones who aren’t actively treating women like garbage, see it and don’t call other men out, so I still don’t even like them. I go out of my way to not be around males now. I only deal with men at work when I have to and I’m not even happy about that.

[@Taytaystegall]

That sounds more like women than men

[@eLurkr]

Most of my friends are male and I've learned to have certain conversations with certain friends; not all men have the same level of emotional intelligence, and not all men will provide the same type of feedback: if I need comforting, there's someone for that, if I need someone to be straight with me, there's someone for that, if I just wanna vent etc. there's someone for that... it's not a flat landscape out there.

[@haintedhouse2990]

the bitter betty's who look like dudes while bad-mouthing dudes are hilarious. my friends are men, women, gay, straight, black, white, followers, leaders - anybody with a piss-squirts of intelligence should be able to communicate with a variety of the human condition and not clear the room of everyone except butch women.

[@dewaunmack8393]

Regular Guy here, this made me a little sad, and I'm sorry you had to experience this. My friends and I or nothing like this. Now i don't know your age, but i sure im much older. So to be honest we don't engage in lockerroom talk, i've known most of these guys since high school and we a none violent, respectfully and polite to every woman or any female if I'm saying that correctly. I truly enjoy talk to women for the simple reason it makes me think in a completely different way, and its very eye opening and educational. We do love sports and the gym but everyone is welcomed and encouraged. Share emotions can be hard, but as friends we do a real conversation and sometimes people cry, Big whoop, its called being an adult, and when it comes female friends or any women in our life they to protected, which requires use to all keep our eyes open to be on the lookout for danger. Forgive me im rambling but just to say again i am so sorry for your experience.

[@wiardikijne5158]

Hear hear!

[@KnowledgeIsYourPower8888]

I was once super femme/straight presenting but I wanted to be honest with myself & started presenting more masculine. The way men treat me now has been a complete shift. Not a good one either. As a femme I never had guys being snarky with me for no reason or just plain bothered about my presence. Now that I’m more masc it happens frequently. Especially when a female takes an interest in me. But what is insane to me the most is when their bothered by me being a complete stranger. It’s insane, why do you care about this random girl being gay. Does it bother you that much that some random girl does not like you in the way you would prefer so you have to antagonize or bully her to prove what point? It’s insane. What your bothered by is that a complete stranger can have their own free will to decide who they love and is not afraid to show it. That’s what bothers you, so yeah something’s not right with bro if you get triggered when one random girl presents herself in a way that implies she only dates women. It had nothing to do with you. Yet, your triggered. You don’t see stories like this on YT talking about our struggles it’s very rare, I obviously just have to deal with these issues directly. So I’m glad someone finally voiced this! Because men are 100% bothered by our presence. Is that every man? No it definitely isn’t. But it happens frequently. To me though I see it like what you stated, men are just always trying to silence women or make us feel inferior. Just women in general, for whatever reason if your a lesbian masc it gets worse. So I actually have a new found respect for masculine lesbians who are not afraid to be who you are. Because I know how hard the rainbow path can be. ✊🏼 I know the plights we go through. I’m just glad your video sheds light on this issue. On the bright side, the amount of attention that women shower on me now fuels me to remain strong in spite of these men that wish to make me feel like I shouldn’t exist. 😄 No wonder your soooo mad 😂

[@emilycochrane78]

for those men,, the answer to that is their ego, they are threatened that its possible for masc women to treat women way better and to understand women on a more deeper level than they will ever be able to do, its a deep hate they seem to give off, in their mind they cant understand how on earth a woman can pleasure a woman better than they can., they say 'huh, you just need a bit of good di@k' , all that crap talk. turns me stomach.

[@AdrianChang-q5f]

My gosh, are you me? I could have written this myself. #StoryOfMyLife

[@KnowledgeIsYourPower8888]

@@AdrianChang-q5f Tis the path of the rainbow road.

[@haintedhouse2990]

bring it down a notch most men could care less about your butch level.

[@tiarastevenson6505]

There is a complexity in lesbianism that a man will never understand.....it's more than physical 60 percent of it is mental (my opinion) ...which is why we typically have mental signs of it at a young aga even before me have any sexual experience. I believe that the concept of being able to be in love with another woman and your a woman is very foreign too their mental, because they barely even understand women on a surface level so the way we understand each other is a threat too them and their mental capacity. Men generally can't get past their testosterone and hyper masculinity to even comprehend what lesbians experience beyond a physical attraction and sexual experience.

[@jiliciar.1423]

This is so true. I remember sum red pill youtuber saying that he doesn't workout for women, he works out for himself and it just happens to be an extra benefit that women like his physic (which is good) but he expects women to workout *for men* not for themselves.

[@willow1698]

8:30 In the words of Nirvana- "Never met a wise man, if so it's a woman."

[@S.G..E555]

People are defending men.. it’s not all men but as a fem who’s dates masc it’s the majority… we’ve had to fight just to be ourselves.. you will never truly understand unless you’ve walked a day in our lives.. I’ve worked in male environments and well most of ya thinkings are off .. with the odd exception 😮

[@sarcodonblue2876]

It is most men. They all want control to some degree. Even the most kind ones still want things done their way and in their time frame. Having relationships with them is hell. They are so grumpy and unless things are how they want it they suck the enjoyment out of every situation into a black hole . You can't take them out anywhere to do a fun activity

[@charles9489]

​@@sarcodonblue2876i guess that's why lesbians have the highest rate of divorce then. Anyway live ur life the best way u see fit.

[@Taytaystegall]

​@@sarcodonblue2876alright so if you say most men are like that which is not true then I'm going to say most women are gold diggers than

[@haintedhouse2990]

@@sarcodonblue2876 i know it's been a year but i hope you got laid - might help work off some of that pissy attitude towards guys.

[@elevenseven-yq4vu]

​@@sarcodonblue2876Seems like you need a new and better set of filters for whom to ask on a date / put up with in your life, and maybe a change of environment if that doesn't leave any elegible men. I know enough heterosexual non-toxic couples to know they are out there.

[@NattyByNature-]

Imagine living in a closed minded country 🇯🇲 and being a masculine representing lesbian. It’s a special kind of hell. I try to only go to suburban areas and high society events because I find that the people who go those places usually don’t care about your orientation. I stay away from crowded spaces. I literally have social anxiety now from all the abuse from men over the years. Sunday I was walking with a female and a guy on a bicycle started to compliment her then when she wasn’t reciprocating he started to get hostile. This was after 8pm on a lonely road. I was antsy. I just wish it wasn’t like this but it is. When I’m not getting verbally abused because I don’t reciprocate them trying to hit on me. I’m getting abused because I’m walking with a female that they like. Or I’m just existing 😅

[@Jkiillem]

Thank you for your honesty & bravery in life!

[@Raddiebaddie]

It’s so frustrating and heartbreaking. I wish it could stop

[@heinuchung8680]

Jamaica is tough to be gay I admit

[@MariaShodunke]

This struck a cord for me, I’ve been noticing over time just how many of my cis male friends I have distanced myself from or all together cut out because I honestly couldn’t stand the shitty repetitive and offensive jokes (supposedly banter) etc. They are so toxic to each other. It all got boring real fast 🙄. Only kept a few decent ones and that’s a very low number, which suits me fine 😂.

[@ravensong7128]

Presently I’m Unloading toxic dudes aho seem to become more homophobic every time I talk to them and ignore the fact I’m bisexual and genderqueer, and cutting them off all the time because they ask for feet pics or nudes. One of the things I keep hearing that they like about me is that I’m just like one of the dudes but while still wig a bit feminine, cute and pretty. Sometimes it’s cause I’m awkward too 😂 I like videogames, UFC, and the wamanz and I’m pretty natural at picking up their sense of humor as long as it doesn’t get overly homophobic, racist, or sexiest (I can handle it to an extent because I laugh at stereotypes about myself all the time, as long as we know they’re not true we can laugh at them, I think) and I’m like this because i just grew up naturally fitting in with the guys to the point I was even scared to talk to girls. (It’s changes now that I’m an adult-2/3 of my friends are female and a good1/3 of the AMAB are queer but I still have a generous amount of male friends and I just keep having to block or reiterate my simple af boundaries until I give up on them. A couple of women (not gonna share who)says stop with the vulgar jokes and the bro punches and stuff, then it won’t be like that anymore-but i never get as vulgar as a man! I literally will just be like, “that’s what she said! No homo! He looks like he wants to sleep with his dinner plate! Hahaha!” Stuff like that, ya know? I feel like that’s bordering the realm of blaming a rape victim for getting raped because of what they’re wearing-just not as extreme accept for sometimes. We should be allowed to be ourselves without being disrespected, fetishized, or objectified. We REALLY need to fix the toxic masculinity problem-it’s terrible for men’s mental health and it’s driving many of them crazy to the point of violence at the worst extremes. But it’s also terrible news for us females and queer people, and for those lives soft masc cishet men who are just in touch with their feminine side.

[@wotie6715]

Im so glad I found you and your channel it’s like a sigh of relief. You say the truth and don’t hold back! I feel safe and heard and all these observations and points you are making are soo true. I often feel alone because I view society this way and it feels like every spect is controlled by them😭 and it’s frustrating the amount of conflict they have within themselves. 🙏 thank you 🏳️‍🌈

[@L-rqrk]

The fact that most women deal with this on a daily basis!! Lesbianism is a gift

[@MelissaCorzo]

You said it best

[@avacadocap9591]

Ok.

[@-t9214]

I LOVE UR PROFIKE

[@L-rqrk]

@@-t9214 Ellie has taken over the world lol

[@alexlesbean8739]

@@-t9214why is my gf your pfp?🙄 /j

[@thelastshadeofgrey]

You really articulate things so fluently and proficiently that it's a joy to listen to you, this is the first video from you I've seen and I subscribed!

[@Raddiebaddie]

Even having this conversation feels dangerous bc of men so it’s important to be said 💔

[@Taytaystegall]

So u just hate men. Sounds like a personal problem to me because there are good men out there y'all just can't attract one because y'all women are toxic y'all selves. Ever thought about that

[@ivysmith2794]

You're speaking truth.. .most men don't like masc presenting women. Few weeks ago I was chilling at a sporting lounge, having a great time and playing dominoes. One guy told me he liked my style...a jack ahx dude started talking about fake DIX.. I was like wdf this conversation is rude and i left the table

[@TRUAXFADES]

Thank you for speaking up on these topics that never really get discussed because the ignorant will always hate what they don’t understand we need more people like you 💯 Keep doing what you doing

[@aliyahcunningham376]

She is completely right about how men act. THE HIGH POWERED PODCAST(Princella the Queen Maker) expounds upon this. Thank jkillem for keepin it real. The women in my life are so blind to the truth

[@MelissaCorzo]

You are such an inspiration for me, thank you from the bottom of my heart

[@joal5645]

@5:40 this. My brother is straight, married has a baby, and was always called gay in school because he dressed nicely and had mostly female friends.

[@anaa9245]

I’m at lesbian with male friends. They’re really nice men… I’m in the engineering field which has more guys which is how I met them

[@ylana4444]

You said it all! So insightful and accurate! I consider myself androgynous/masc presenting and all you’ve spoken aligns with what I’ve learned in therapy and what I personally experience. I was married to a man for 30 years then had a lesbian affair for 10 and I can tell you…there is nothing like having a woman in your life as an intimate partner. There is no comparison. The emotional intelligence, the sex, the empathy…is unmatched …I’ve realized this is who I am and at 69 I am still coming out and enjoying every minute of it!

[@michellepedersen3422]

I'm so blessed and thankful for being a lesbian. I have btw met one good guy, who is emotionally mature and just so good hearted. They are rare, but they do exist!

[@Taytaystegall]

Yea finding a mature woman is hard to find these days too but they are out there

[@LorielTV]

Lmao girl 😂😂😂 “male species “ i luv u

[@linsdeybaggins2807]

I always feel I have to be "on guard" with men. I'm waiting for the threat of violence and would never consider meeting one not in a public place, with mace and keeping an eye on my drink. With women that's just not there.

[@haintedhouse2990]

if you look like most lesbians you shouldn't have to worry about keeping an eye on that drink or carrying mace - better yet pick up a copy of 'He's Just Not That Into You'

[@Taytaystegall]

That sounds like a you problem because not all men are threatening but all y'all in the comments hate men so it makes sense

[@jenny2tone242]

​@@TaytaystegallNo one said ALL men. However, it's certainly enough that it makes sense for women going on a date with men to be on their guard. If that offends you then maybe you need to have a word with your fellow men. Time you stepped up and call out the toxic males.

[@wingnut71]

​@@jenny2tone242Who do you think makes the laws that protect women Jenny? Who do you think runs the prisons and guards the criminals? And how the hell would we know what men to "call out" when they don't exactly go around advertising their criminal intent. You make it sound so simple, as if every one of us is friends with a known rapist and we just have to tell him to stop and be nice. Obviously you have zero ability to think rationally, a common theme with feminists I have found.

[@jenny2tone242]

@@wingnut71 oh so the only people who make the laws are men then? Lol you do realise that many women make up a proportion of governments across the globe. They also work as security guards and prison guards. So your comment is nonsensical, something I have found to be quite common amongst misogynists 🤔

[@ravensong7128]

Trust me, I get really frustrated with men too as an AFAB queer person. All the time I’m objectified and disrespected by men. But the few men who are good men are like my brothers, I have no problem being surrounded by them. I get what your saying here, but I try to be careful of statements that sound very generalized, speaking in a matter of fact black and white way about a broad spectrum of people who happen to fit in the same demographic. I like that you acknowledge that there are some men in touch with their feminine side who are different, but I feel like the language we use is still really important. If you don’t sound like you’re judging the whole demographic, sometimes even more members of that demographic are likely to listen to your points and actually open their minds to your perspective. You make plenty of good points that women and even men suffering from the mental abuse and even physical forms of abuse caused by the institution of toxic masculinity in this society could really benefit and prosper from, and I’d hate for that to be missed on anyone, man or woman. P.S. 😍🫶🏾I think you’re beautiful and I like your rizz! Okay bye! 😜✌🏾

[@carinagomezfernandez7473]

I am a gay transman. But because I am not on testosterone yet, people assume that I am a butch gay woman and often they act not so nice to me to be honest

[@coversbycierra6557]

TRUTH!! I am so glad I am gay.

[@Katyavolkova86]

I deal with sis men every damn day I needed this ..

[@Taytaystegall]

Then go be around women and leave us alone since it's a problem

[@jandmmcgee]

Yep. Been compared to men my whole life.

[@toxicpimpsmack]

Oh Jess, thank you thank you thank you! You speak for so many of us. Keep our space safe

[@Sj-timao]

I deal with men like they’re my brothers or uncles it keeps respect and avoids competition and confrontation. I never had problems with any men matter of fact they just became like sons and brothers to me

[@allysonvasquez1862]

Awww thank you Jess for this because I hate it when men try to hit up on me and especially my mother try to make me go out with an 28 year old man and I am 19 and like mom Don't you see what's wrong with that I didn't like that because And I had to speak up about that and I just say that I am "gay" I like women I don't like men at all and sometimes it hard being a women sometimes but men sometimes can be too much and Idk

[@Taytaystegall]

U don't think women can be too much to deal with

[@jourdinfoster-morrison8600]

Oh my God Jess God bless you for posting and don't worry we know you are very busy gal and that you got your thang goin on . But honestly I just got out of a toxic relationship and with this guy and I'm really thankful that you are here to give this GREAT advice. Keep up the good work big sis Jess 🌹

[@MaunkWaunk]

Thank you for that! It's so true unfortunately. As a male presenting woman men are constantly confused which leads to aggression. I'm tall and strong but still it sucks and I avoid clubs and places crowded with them most of the time.

[@TheEddieM99]

Man here, I agree with everything you're saying. Men have serious problems when it comes to our lack of emotional/social abilities. So thank you for this important video!

[@HighPriestessK]

I’m sorry you going through. Hugs.,Glad to see you back.

[@YulandaSabrina]

You are just beautiful to me ❤ I’m am exploring my recent curiosity towards masculine lesbian women… your videos are incredibly inspiring. Thank you x

[@shadowwolf_kailey1873]

So I used to be friends with guys a lot more when I was younger and I have noticed I have started to have more female friends especially in MS and HS(upcoming sophomore) I see how men act online and even my own brother it's actually kinda gross sometimes, I always feel nervous when I'm out in public and sometimes I feel bad for that but at the end of the day I can't not be nervous around guys especially adult guys. I had a trip for orchestra, we were split into 3 groups the trip(5 days) and one of the guys that ended up in my group was a lot calmer when he wasn't around his group of guys. I had a friend who wouldn't even leave me alone when we met kn 7th grade and I was stuck being around him, he would always hit me or my male friend in 8th grade because it was "funny"(the 2nd male friend is really the only guy I trust because I don't even remember he's a guy half the time) he would always ask for a hug and push it until I gave him a hug and he did the same with his GF, fast forward to mid 9th grade she broke up with him after being sick with him(she didn't even really wanna date him) qnd I got out so fast I realized everytime he came around I would become annoyed and snappy, and having to listen to him and his stupid friends talk about how much they weigh or wrestling(which I'm convinced is just a sport for men to touch eachother) I left yhat mess as soon as she did and I regret nothing I became a lot happier and his dumbass got himself sent to the correction school in my area

[@emilytreu2312]

I have a really good guy friend… it’s super rare there’s no feelings involved on his end

[@TheJournalEffect]

You’re a legend and I am so proud I have found you today. Thankyou.

[@daniawania]

My issue with the discussion is when you said Women's Spaces and LGBT Spaces as if it was the same thing.

[@GothMeUp]

I have same walk has you. Thank you for this now I can put away how I see in men in general but look at healthy perspective.

[@SABS4]

As a feminine masculine boy also im a very big softy I could say they're not all masculine woman are gay but for the ones who are that's fine and I completely respect that I barely even talk to them but therefore my best friend is a stud the reason why we're friends is because I respect her and all those type of things anyways I completely understand you. men have type of terrible behaviors they don't know how to behave themselves and they don't know how to control themselves sorry that woman have to deal with that type of men. you guys are very attractive but us people have to respect your boundaries and your spaces especially men anyways that's all I wanted to say have a good day anybody seeing this😊😊😊

[@SABS4]

On a side note I hope I don't get hate on by anybody I am myself looking for a masculine woman out there who wants me.I'm a big softy for a reason and I'm feminine for a reason I don't really like men I used to be gay but then I realized it wasn't worth it I've been treated my whole life Terrible by men even got abused by men me realize I don't want one any of the guys don't judge me but at least try to understand my perspective and why I try looking for a woman like these I don't flirt with them or anything I just simply approached them because I don't know what they like and what they don't like so I respect them and I approached them in a nice calm normal way like if I was talking to anybody find myself as a boy do not have guy friends because they're so toxic and I myself can recognize that I'm not straight I don't know what I am I do not feel comfortable with feminine woman just masculine just wanted to say that please don't hate on me by at least try to have compassion and understand where I'm coming from especially when I got r@ped by a dude have a good day😊😊

[@akinyiomer4589]

​​​​@@SABS4 ❤Hi! So welcome to one of the many corners of the sapphic internet, we're happy to have you here as long as you respect us 😊 Nothing's better than when it's just all love and peace between people. First up I'm really, really sorry to hear you've been violated like that by men. Sexual assault is so damn traumatising and as women we know all too well what it's like experiencing violence by another man. I hope you take all the time you need for yourself to heal - in your own way, on your own terms. Whether that's therapy or sharing your story or support groups or friends and family. If seeking legal justice is also an option that's great, but we know that most justice systems don't really give a shit about victims so ... just do anything you can to keep moving forward. Next up, it's completely okay to be a femme- or mostly-femme man and also be into women. From the way you describe yourself you're maybe not 100% sure what your sexual/romantic orientation is right now, and that's okay, you'll figure it out. Or not! Some people are happy without labels. I love my label but I know that's not for everyone. You wouldn't be the first person who after something so traumatising lost faith/attraction in the gender that did the act ... as long as you bear in mind that's a trauma response designed to protect you; so don't be afraid if your attraction changes again. And we know it's not all men that are vile - too many but not all. For what it's worth there are bi/pan masc-presenting women out there who would be sooo happy with a femme or androgynous or whatever type guy. And there's even a tiny handful of straight masc/tomboy women who would love to snuggle up with like a femboy cutie. It's a small population I know, I'm sure you know ... but they are out there. You just gotta make sure you're looking in the right places: E.g. lesbian places might be a start to look for bi/pan women cause we do hang out here, but also please be respectful that lots of aggressive (not you!) straight men like to walk all over lesbian spaces to "turn us" or just get some, either individually or via sneaky threesomes. So absolutely if you wanna find out about us, befriend us, learn about us ... that's great! But it's just a lil' context for you to be aware of, especially for IRL places like lesbian bars/clubs/parties. Just bear in mind that there will be some women who are ONLY attracted to women and you'll be good to go. I would deffo say though that if you're comfortable, just put what you're looking for out there in dating profiles or in person ... carefully but clearly worded so you sound safe & charming as opposed to creepy ... for the type of women/enbies you're looking for. It's better to be honest so the right kinda people will see you and understand you. You'll get some harassment from people who don't understand you but that's how it is for people are a lil' different 😊 just try to keep hopeful and happy, but if it gets too much then take breaks. Otherwise I hope life treats you well in general 😊

[@pshkdjdbd3950]

12:10 it's possible to be in the middle of those 2 categories where you have cis straight male friends who aren't toxic, while also being respectful to women. I dont think the real solution is for women to avoid men, because if you avoid them they wont ever change their behavior. Male allies are necessary in the fight for social equality and respect of women. Good men exist, though they are the minority.

[@Jkiillem]

i agree w you but i never said the universal message was to avoid them

[@Taytaystegall]

There are good men everywhere it's just y'all women seem to only attract the bad ones that's says a lot about y'all and not men as a whole

[@Reina-yz5wq]

You might want to check out Princella The Queenmaker. She speaks on the subject of sexual conflict, which is the natural clash between men and women and so much more.

[@lesaw.7956]

Such a fan. You blow my mind

[@charissalee1575]

i'd recommend "the Tragedy of Heterosexuality" by Jane Ward

[@IndigoChild007]

Thanks for making this video. I think you just may have inspired and encouraged me to create a KZbin channel speaking about these things.

[@airielmarie]

Ok I love you for this video cus I be saying this shit ALL THE TIME well .. most of it lol ❤️‍🔥🫶🏽

[@sezthet1]

I’m thankful you made this video 🙏

[@iamqueenoftheworld]

Big gay sis is back

[@lucillebluth22]

I work in mostly man environment. I had never have an issue. I guess it all depends where that environment is. I don't know, it makes me sad to hear all this you have to deal with

[@Sonna-pq2zx]

This is so real. Appreciate it 🏳️‍🌈

[@musicbyamandaj]

THIS NEEDS TO BE PUT ON BLAST, YES!

[@seal_l_l]

Thank you so. Freakin. Much.

[@AlexandraHerbas-y9i]

❤❤❤ I’m thankful I’ve found you

[@FreePalastine-k3u]

15:12 This point is so truuuuuue I have seen a many guys commenting on a post of why they work out is for their homies and for the guys

[@Lisa-px1ux]

Intense.. Much Love 💜

[@metalk7]

This video made me laugh. Dealing with men, especially those who believe themselves to be alpha males, is truly impossible. And even worse when their girlfriends notice me, (they have even attacked me) It is not my fault that a % of men do not know how to treat a woman and are sexist.

[@Taytaystegall]

A lot of Women don't know how to treat a man either so why are u just making it one sided

[@Moonflight021]

My dad is one of the best people I know. And when he was single, straight women were tripping over themselves to date him. He loves nerdy, unapologetic, intelligent, opinionated women, and he's not afraid of showing his emotions and talking about sensitive issues. Most of his friends are actually women, because they're able to have deeper conversations together. If only knuckleheads were able to realize how much they're missing out on because of toxic masculinity.

[@angrybudgie96]

I don't hate all men, just men that are sigma or alpha, and men that are incels. My fiance is a beta male and I relate to him in many ways but the rest of the things that I don't relate to him are only because he struggles with autism and also because he's a man and I'm a woman. He doesn't treat me like a peice of meat like every other guy that has ever approached me. And the friends that are males in my group are also betas or feminine. As a bisexual, I find you to be like the perfect mix of man and woman.

[@anentpsguidetothegalaxy9132]

I identify as a masculine man, and I hate the way men talk about women. And I would agree with you and the majority of your content. Women act very different when they're with other women versus men. However I'm extremely resistant to go after a particular group of people and claim that's where the problem originates. Men and women both treat each other poorly equally in different ways, and I find that humans in general are trash. Even when I make it clear that I would enjoy feedback because everybody is unique, and I'm more interested in her experience than mine. It's pretty rare that I get any. Hand me the reins and I'll wear the horse out. Our parts are different and female anatomy is not as easily understood for us. I really enjoy your authenticity and directness. What can I do to stand out and being grouped in with other men? These days getting my foot in the door seems to be the hardest part, and I've judged before I can show anyone different. PS I keep tampons in my bathroom And I mix coconut oil and essential oils with beeswax to make it more smooth

[@FruitBasketyay]

It's fucked you and we have to deal with this. Do however remember that patriarchy is a double sided blade. Men are hurt by it too and it doesn't mean we have to tolerate injustices or attacks but it does mean to have empathy for them too.

[@Oujijoshi]

This so much hnxnxgxk I know this is about cis men, and while I as a nonbinary person know what it's like being oppressed by them too this just... Kinda gave me a whole lot of TERFy vibes 😰😬 especially with the specieism thing, it felt very biological essentialist. Masculine women absolutely do experience misogynistic violence, but it's totally not within men's nature to be like this. This is a huge societal problem that needs to be actively challenged. Including challenging men not to abuse other men or any masculine presenting queer person who they perceive as a threat to their toxic masculinity. Even just the whole "there are two types of masculine women. The ones like me who stay away from men and the ones who act badly because their male friends are becoming a bad influence on them!!" This is lesbian separatist rhetoric, humans cannot be divided into these binary categories of inherently good by not being men or guilty by association. That's how gender and biological essentialist thinking works and how they're the very foundations of going through the TERF pipeline.

[@FruitBasketyay]

@@Oujijoshi I'm confused. Are you speaking to me or to the video?

[@Oujijoshi]

​@@FruitBasketyayI'm talking about the video dhnxnxg sorry for not clarifying!!

[@FruitBasketyay]

@@Oujijoshi in that case I agree. That's why I try to gently nudge a more open minded put yourself in others shoes perspective. We can't have an insular lesbian space because that's not what queer communities are for

[@musicjunk1000]

it is so true. it is about time cis hetero women boycotted cis men.

[@sadiemason-martin5340]

Most of the women from gen z like me are

[@Taytaystegall]

​@@sadiemason-martin5340bye us men are tired of women like you putting us in the same category as bad men go look in the mirror

[@sohd2283]

Some dude tried to fight me lol

[@morganmylène99]

So true

[@HaliSue2009]

There is not much in this video that is not true. It’s sad.

[@skypuppy7398]

Preach🙏🙏

[@paulinamarsala2318]

Jess you are hilarious 😂

[@DebbieOldSchool-1442]

Bravo!

[@ilaine]

“The first act of violence that patriarchy demands of males is not violence toward women. Instead patriarchy demands of all males that they engage in acts of psychic self-mutilation, that they kill off the emotional parts of themselves. If an individual is not successful in emotionally crippling himself, he can count on patriarchal men to enact rituals of power that will assault his self-esteem.” ― bell hooks

[@domy6827]

I thought it said 'meth' not 'men' and was so confused how that would change by being a masc woman

[@kaylapauvlinch5276]

Great video bro!!!

[@chameleon2819]

As a nonbinary, sometimes masc presenting lesbian I can definitely relate to a lot of this, ESPECIALLY with how men will feel so threatened by us. I went bowling a couple nights ago with some friends and one girl's husband started giving off weird energy once he realized he wasn't going to crush me. He went from casually talking to me to not even looking at me, and he became so intense playing the game that his wife even said something about how bowling isn't that serious. I've noticed a lot that straight men are unbelievably intimated by a lesbian's casual confidence.

[@Cortez0]

Those are not straight men those are little straight boys.

[@Thefaceofpplwithouttheirfilter]

Trust

[@FreePalastine-k3u]

This is so true even in lesbian groups you find a looooooooooooooot of man !! 5:02

[@morganmylène99]

💜

[@tudormiller887]

I'm a brand new subscriber watching in 🇬🇧 👍

[@vlove4574]

Ik you are talking facts about some men but its not all men that be like this

[@Taytaystegall]

She has hatred for men that's why she's speaking like this about men

[@Greenterror]

Well I’m a MAN am I subscribed 😂

[@madmessm1845]

I am not sure in which world you live (I guess U.S.) here in Europe men are not anywhere near your description / experience. You would definitely find male friends here! I am lesbian and I have men as well as women as friends

[@haintedhouse2990]

thank you Europe! lots of pissed off chicks here in the US, not sure why, most men I know could care less about butch levels

[@Lylelou233]

No man is worried about you hahaha!

[@Lylelou233]

@BigMe1N85 im just saying if a women is gay she will want a women if not shes gay she will want men everytime

[@garinacampos225]

❤

[@garinacampos225]

I love my life surrounded by only women

[@TrustGlobalStudy-im2pf]

I agree

[@showmethehoneybee]

✨duality✨

[@aminaoukili6127]

facts

[@zafeiriskartsios7103]

Look, I acknowledge you may have had terrible experiences with men, but you are making a very unfair and close minded generalization right here. It's really not just about your high school mates, guys you meet in the gym, guys you meet in the club, people who harass your LGBT support group, or incels that stalk you online. Perhaps you need to open up your social circles a little more. Because in my social circles I have met plenty of artistic, intelligent, hard working, considerate men that know how to groom themselves, know how to treat women as they deserve, and are actually straight and masculine. Nobody thinks of them as weak or gay or effeminate (not saying it is a bad thing to be gay or effeminate). In fact some of them exist in positions of power. That's my two cents as a man who aspires to follow the same path in life. Take care.

[@lts5674]

Yeah this was a miss for me as a lesbian. I'll admit though I don't have the same kind of exposure as J, so while I'm no stranger to garnering regular male attention, that is many times, innapropriately expressed, those pale in comparison to the amount of males I have positive or neutral experiences with. Everyone is forgettable if we're being honest, men and women but the negative experiences stand out to us because a)It's probably the most exciting thing to happen to us in an otherwise uneventful day and b)we're self-preserving. I kind of get where she's coming from but this was a miss for me. Anyway the eye candy is undeniable so I can enjoy this at a low volume. 🤤

[@kelltoid8220]

she doesn't owe men the opportunity to hurt or shame her 😂

[@illegalscripts6771]

As a masculine lesbian I very much agree, I've met straight cis men who are actually quite open-minded and respectful, they just happen to be the minority but they exist.

[@amory9147]

I agree with you 100. I'm a female queer and LOVE my sensitive, intelligent, considerate male friends. In fact they are even sensitive than I am.

[@MelissaCorzo]

no thank you

[@DanaSmall-cd2th]

❤❤❤

[@alinskibi]

You are so beautiful

[@chillie000]

I think the kind of men Jess meets mirrors her world view of them. Funny how many other lesbians (prob not the majority) connect with and appreciate men. Open your mind and see what you meet.

[@MarsAnita15]

i think you are forgetting that we still have to interact with men despite not keeping them in our intimate lives and through these interactions and observing how men interact with BOTH men and women some lesbians would prefer to not include them in our intimate life. i have meet a few men who other lesbians don’t mind being around and as i’ve tried to befriend them myself i find myself constantly having to educate them on their imbedded misogyny and it’s just not for me. i just don’t want to tolerate men if i don’t have to and i don’t 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@TheIndigo1child]

​@MarsAnita15 Do you not have a father, brother or nephew? Do you exclude male family members because they are men?

[@sarcodonblue2876]

​@@TheIndigo1childseeing as my male relatives are jerks I do.

[@TheIndigo1child]

@@sarcodonblue2876 Well then. I guess that explains your world view. That's unfortunate.

[@MarsAnita15]

@@TheIndigo1child no i have no problem hanging out with my male family members in social settings but i don’t have intimate and close relationships with them like my mother, sisters,aunties 🤷🏾‍♀️ . i don’t have any desire to have a males perspective on the world- at some point i did but 🤷🏾‍♀️ women have always made me feel the safest and thus i have made my world centered around women and loving and being loved by them 🤎 hope this helps

[@GuerreroDelInfo]

What's wrong with being monogamous? 9:42

[@WesternBlur]

“Dealing with” the real thing as a wannabe.

[@DM-nw5lu]

Men aren't the "real thing". They're the shitty prototype when compared to masc lesbians.

[@Majorfr]

You can’t be a masculine woman if you don’t play masculine roles in society. You still have a privileges that women have in society

[@squidward9191]

I'm only one minute in and.... QUEEEEEEEENNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are based as fuck