"DEATH Paradox"| Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson

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In this video Sam Harris and Dr. Jordan Peterson talk about the paradoxical nature of death experience.
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[@AdamMFCW]

This is like a conversation I have in my kitchen at 5 in the morning

[@chrisjoosten9819]

Been there. Many times, in fact. And if you're fortunate enough to have similar people in the kitchen w ya, it's downright marvelous.

[@Digger818]

Before or after sleeping?

[@chrisjoosten9819]

@@Digger818 BEFORE! lol

[@Digger818]

@@chrisjoosten9819 haha it makes a difference tho right?

[@chrisjoosten9819]

@@Digger818 Yes, sir. Yes it does :) Watching the summer sun rise, with friends, is an exquisite little victory, everytime.

[@docfate]

"Should I kill myself or have a cup of coffee?" -Albert Camus

[@gagewade2946]

*doesn't drink coffee* 😂

[@skullman9113]

That makes me feel like I got a big job coming on🧭

[@aleksseb2560]

😂😂😂 Had me laughing for a while 👍

[@nataliek5134]

Lol

[@certified_geek7536]

I ask myself that question quite often

[@brendanl2580]

One of life's great ironies is that we spend our lives fearing what we will miss out on in death... yet that time spent worrying is where the real loss of experience occurs.

[@ThisIsSolution]

If irony could kill, well you know the thing

[@truthhurtts]

“He who fears suffering is only really suffering because he lives in fear.”

[@Chris-zd8cs]

Logic falls apart when you wake up in hell because you failed to use your brain when you had a chance.

[@brendanl2580]

@@Chris-zd8cs logic has fallen apart when you wake up believing in hell rather than using your brain.

[@Chris-zd8cs]

@@brendanl2580 nice use of "I'm rubber. You're glue." It is illogical to claim that another dimension doesn't exist based on the interactions of objects in our 3 dimensional universe.

[@thesuitablecommand]

Where we are, death is not, and where death is, we are not. That's profound. I like it

[@apodani1576]

Little late but thats actually a quote from an ancient greek philosopher.

[@Selfawarerarity]

I like it too. But what if someone is in a cemetery and makes this statement?

[@xenophonicus]

But that does not mean the dead do not know where they are.

[@krishnamurthym595]

​@@apodani1576I thought it was Nabakov

[@goldilocks913]

Not very coherent if you examine it deeper. Certainly not the guarantee that you are looking for to live your life without fear of consequences

[@robiballinger6802]

All i see is Jordan looking like season 3 rick grimes.

[@KrakenGarda2281]

Fair

[@leosteamedbaozi9867]

coral

[@GingerBabyVoodoo]

Gold

[@MichaelDoesStuff-]

LOL

[@Matt_The_Red]

So fucking true

[@finalxcx]

I graduated with a philosophy degree. Recently, because it's become legal, I started smoking. My mind jumps to this very thought every single God damn time and it freaks me the fuck out... imagine not being able to imagine, think, experience.

[@tommydevine9993]

It's the ultimate existential dread imo. Eventually, we all reach a point where that dread and anxiety is replaced by acceptance of inevitability, but I'm not there yet... 😬 Hopefully, by the time I'm old and tired and everything hurts, the prospect of not being old and tired and hurting will make the prospect of no longer existing a welcome concept.

[@funut2541]

It’s not freaky, blissful sleep

[@Ashh9]

Oh it’s amazing brother

[@osirisparthenopaeus4391]

Phrase it perfectly, anyone that doesn’t understand, once the brain ceases to function, you no longer hold memories and decay into nothing as much of a eternity of no thought or presence.

[@whitegoodman7465]

Ever heard of a soul? The body goes but the soul lives on.

[@vinnyc365]

@@whitegoodman7465 Prove it.

[@j.k.2793]

You were supposedly "nothing" before you were born. So what makes you think you won't be born again after you die? ​@vinnyc365

[@Gunn_Fox]

Lesson from this, just live your goddamn life. Don't worry about what happens after your gone just focus on what you can do for today.

[@durrclips746]

This is literally me a few minutes after my friend hands me his weird smelling vape.

[@cameronandrew1853]

Underrated comment. Moth balls?!

[@streborsemaj2173]

Wow that was actually hilarious

[@_vakas]

@@cameronandrew1853 👁

[@mattellinger7472]

Did it perhaps smell like moth balls or new shoes? ;)

[@coryclark5442]

Hey, puff and pass its my turn

[@chevchellios2988]

From experience..I've died and came back...it's like a light switch..ur here and ur not then ur back...no time lost

[@BloodandThorns]

Sleep can be like that too tho 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@chevchellios2988]

@@BloodandThorns that's what it felt like🤷🏼‍♂️

[@narwhal9852]

@@chevchellios2988 yeah because you came back lol

[@uhhwhateverdude9463]

If you had fully died then you would of fully experienced death.

[@johnnyfire3860]

Well judging from my experience, your experience really sucks

[@chrispawlus1226]

When it's over it's over, live now!

[@epicbehavior]

Maybe. Except where is the “self” inside you that’s experiencing everything located, that’s somehow going to never experience anything again after you die?

[@problemstube7266]

☝🏻that mentality is exactly what they are trying to negate in the video.

[@user-ud7ko4cq1n]

"We do not remember the exact moment we fall asleep. So it is with the exact moment we die. We spend a lifetime worrying about something we will never experience."- Charles Buckowski

[@raybrown8412]

Death isn't what I'm worrying about.. it's suffering during the final moments of life...

[@Jessersadler]

For me it's the suffering of others

[@mattcorregan4760]

I agree with both of you

[@tyquanwashington.8510]

Well, thankfully for us our brains have an impeccable system to minimize suffering.

[@mattcorregan4760]

@@tyquanwashington.8510 Apparently you haven't seen anyone suffer. I think you mean, thankfully we have drugs

[@tyquanwashington.8510]

@@mattcorregan4760 I'm a combat veteran so yeah I've seen people suffer on a grand scale. I've had two near death experiences involving IEDs so I also have personal experience.

[@Douglastrds]

You can see that Jordan Peterson was really, really analyzing this paradox with processing power.

[@whoisharo4689]

No, i think he was just thinking "jesus, say the sentence already"

[@Danae78]

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😇👼🤰⚰

[@chongert6396]

I was thinkin about this shit when i was like 10 lmao. At the age it stressed me to encounter the concept of complete nothingness- as well as the concept of nobody alive actually being able to experience it. I would ponder as to what “nothing” would be like. I thought about shit like this all the time, but just didnt know how to combat all the stress that came with it, which did not go well. All the young-age philosophy led me down a real shitty rabbit hole. I couldn’t express my thoughts in a tangible way and felt completely isolated when i realized that nobody i knew even considered to think about the most basic shit. But now ive turned towards faith and better (as in more competent) friends that could understand and it helps a shit ton with keeping life together when you’ve got a strong moral backbone.

[@TASmith-ou3is]

I had panic attacks about death and the unknown about death starting around 8 years old.

[@Okami-Yojimbo]

Ya know they say there's a correlation between realizing you die at an early age and creativity/intellect and junk. "They say" anyways. You were literally such a smart little booger that you scared yourself with awareness lol

[@seintmike7907]

It started for me at 5. I also stayed up many nights afraid of it. I have found faith, not in religious means but in all forms of spiritual exploration (which includes religious scriptures/philosophy). Alan Watts is great

[@OriginalKingRichTv]

I use to smile and say dark jokes. Unfortunately I didn't get any effects until I turned 22 straight dark shit. Thanks to yeshua I can do anything.

[@seintmike7907]

@@OriginalKingRichTv I live the sun too

[@ktc227]

Where they go wrong is death is the end. Their is no experience no anticipation of an experience and no disappointment. Life is precious. Time spent living is a gift.

[@mdl2427]

Gift from? Life is precious because?

[@ktc227]

@@mdl2427 Life is a gift from your mother and father. Life is precious because time stops for no one.

[@SmolJam3]

I like to think that the universe I just a series of processes, anything from the water cycle to nuclear fusion, and when we die, we just become part of a different process

[@3rdeyelife234]

Look into Afterlife experiences vs. Spiritual Events...🤔 🙏👁🧘‍♂️👁🙏

[@Mark_Chandler]

worm food

[@jgray1831]

I’ve had this same thought and thought about it lots, it’s honestly hard to find anything, and I mean anything that can’t be shown as part of a cycle of sorts. Even the universe, if the “Big Crunch” theory proves true (we’ll never know lmao) then that could show that the universe explodes and contracts over and over again over billions and trillions of years. Honestly kinda beautiful to think about, a series of complex cycles

[@youtubespag]

@@3rdeyelife234 I have, what now?

[@youtubespag]

@@jgray1831 the big crunch idea is aight. But what about infinite expansion? Imagine a dot on the center of some graph paper. The singularity, super hot dense starting point for the big bang. Then expansion. Very rapidly that single dot on the page starts to fill up a single cell on the graph paper. After several billion years the matter is done expanding. Heat death. It's only filled up one cell of the graph paper though. This is just the singularity to the next step. Another big bang from this singularity that expands throughout the entire sheet of paper. It's just big bangs all the way down. No need for a change from expansion into crunching.Just infinite expansion, no need for a crunch. Just an idea.

[@Blargthehandsome]

I remember the time I got anesthesia and at that moment I woke up I knew what it was like to die. I woke up feeling that it was only a second after counting to 13, to me it meant that you don't exprience nothing, there's just nothing to experience with. (Just unpaused, he basicallysaid the same thing)

[@MarioRodriguez-ys6pf]

Loss of consciousness. Death is a long dream less sleep.

[@StillElias]

I've never heard an atheist say "I will experience oblivion when I die" When I've been asked what I think happens after death, I say "nothing". I haven't met another atheist that would say otherwise.

[@beastshawnee]

Exactly. But oblivion is just another word for that

[@joshuagiehll3737]

@@beastshawnee right but the point is, you don't "experience" it, it just is. Most atheist make a point of saying they won't experience anything.

[@kevinkonig3892]

That means the mind we view as ourselves is just a clever trick played on us by our brains and we don't really exist. Our bodies do but whatever it is in us that experiences the world and is thinking this stuff up does not. Very unlikely imo.

[@diannawilliams761]

No hope

[@victorsmith5206]

If death is final, then morals in life are pointless, cause there is no accountability.

[@belinhobeli9569]

This is insane thinking and dangerous.

[@jon9394]

If the only reason for acting morally is because you beleive you will be held accountable for it with some divine reward or punishment. Then brother, you are a piece of shit.

[@stefus97]

​@@belinhobeli9569and no less true

[@g.b.7676]

Why would that be dangerous?

[@AlisaM-L]

Тюрьма существует.

[@thelegaloccupier]

One consolation could be that we all can, and most of us do, make small but crucial adjustments to the future collective experience

[@isaactroyer5689]

The legacy I leave behind, I won't remember. If I sent the world into hell and died, I wouldn't know it. It would be as if I never knew it.

[@tommydevine9993]

@@isaactroyer5689 but existentially, while you're alive, you would know that your actions do have consequences after you die and no longer experience experience, so doing good or whatever St ll holds value.

[@cremedelacorn5356]

Friend: well what do you think happens when you die? Me: no more rent 🎉

[@keyboardkushington4065]

This was kinda comforting, after takin some shroomies one kinda traumatizing question I had was “what is nothing”, but everyone in the comment section kinda helped me realize that it is not possible to perceive nothing since we’ve never experienced nothing. Now that I’m sure it impossible I actually feel comfortable just not thinking about it.

[@TASmith-ou3is]

I imagine if there is no afterlife, death will be like falling asleep and never waking up. That's best case scenario. My fear is being aware of what is happening at the moment of my death.

[@stevechaconjr941]

Daniel 12:4 “As for you, Daniel, keep the words secret, and seal up the book until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.”

[@dr.j5642]

You wont experience death, as in non-existence, but you experience the ceasing of experience, the contemplation of it up to the point of cessation, and all of the fear that comes with that. The fact that you know you won’t exist and experience things in the future, while yet being alive, even accepting this coming oblivion, is akin to experiencing that eternal oblivion. Insomuch as you can visualize it, you experience it, for as long as you are able, that is to say, until your death. In this way, though you don’t experience your absence while it is happening, you are keenly aware of it.

[@johnjozefowicz2022]

One thing I do notice however, people of faith ( not zealots )do seem more at peace, handle loss better and tend to be charitable

[@anheuser-busch]

Interesting, I wouldn't say in my experience they handle loss better. They are also more preoccupied with death. Based on the data, you are halfway right about the charitable aspect though, only insofar as you are talking about donations to religious institutions. Religious people are more generous to their institutions, but not more generous towards non-religious institutions.

[@entiretotalityofwhateverexists]

That's the whole point of religion, people feel safer when they know there's "something" that is looking after you

[@Natharsus]

@@entiretotalityofwhateverexists Religion does different things for different people. The promise of entrance into Heaven is only one reason as to why people gravitate toward such a belief system. For example, religion offers addicts a second chance and an opportunity to “rebirth” themselves and offer their life to Christ. Some people also enjoy the communal aspect. And some people believe because they are incapable of thinking for themselves.

[@chdearley]

Ignorance is bliss.

[@jmwahlstrom1]

Religion provides a sense of peace because it provides answers to the questions that no one can know. But some just want an answer and don't want to use logic or reason to challenge it.

[@awesomesause]

The moment you die is the moment your experience ends.

[@javierpreciadojr413]

Jordan peterson needs a long vacation on an island where he can just take in the ocean, earth, air... he needs a break. Hes about to slap chris rock.

[@trueXMotionFitness]

This cracked me up. Thank you. 🤣🤣

[@alkintugsal7563]

😂

[@waynepayne9875]

Death is like dreamless sleep. You simply are not there.

[@toe_stealer6930]

This gives me so much anxiety.

[@danimal263]

Why? Genuine question. Does the idea of a true 'nothing' after you die trigger your anxiety?

[@toe_stealer6930]

@@danimal263 absolutely, I can’t imagine being unconscious in a plain of literally nothing. No rebirth or afterlife horrifies me.

[@danimal263]

@@toe_stealer6930 I understand, it used to scare me as well. I just started to picture what life was like before I was born, and how I remember absolutely nothing at all.

[@steelcity9517]

Jordan is like.. “fuckin spit it out already”

[@matthewhorizon6050]

Ironically, Peterson is the worst violator of this. They're both blowhards

[@klamup]

It's......... ........... over?

[@jayray6844]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@Strings-jg2to]

@@matthewhorizon6050 why are they blowhards?

[@CsykKrit]

@@Strings-jg2to polysyllabic words

[@georgiosanagnostoudis1898]

That was one of the plenty of things the Epicurus said that were amazing

[@SneakyBadness]

This gives me such overwhelming unbearable anxiety. I want so much to make peace with my nature. I don't know where to start

[@Rmachine91]

Jesus. There’s more to it than you think.

[@JanoyCresvaZero]

@Goochisz Magoochisz Yep. It truly doesn’t matter, it’s just whatever makes your existence more bearable. For me, my life and death will be just another obituary, another funeral for friends and family to attend one day before I’m gone and the world moves on to the next one. It’s like one time, a friend of mine jokingly said he was gonna put a dildo on my forehead at my funeral. I told him I genuinely didn’t care, it’s not like Imma be there to be embarrassed.

[@trials6502]

Plant trees and assort your spaces. Be less of a burden on the environment.

[@bonnieenright]

Every nurse I’ve ever talked too, as a retired nurse that’s a lot, you see more people die then you can imagine. Every nurse has come to believe in an afterlife because of odd things they have experienced.

[@soberanisfam1323]

Maybe to cope with the trauma

[@gnamp]

Don't settle on the outcome like this guy did. Always remember that you can't know the unknowable.

[@Mikael-jt1hk]

Dont cut glass with a lawnmower. It makes the clouds orange. Makes exactly as much sense as you just did 😂

[@gnamp]

@@Mikael-jt1hk then allow me to spoonfeed you the meaning, my friend. Do you have this trouble with straightforward things very often? What about it didn't you understand?

[@sellmorehomesnow]

Tragic… thinking that this life is the only one.. and the best one.

[@Helmholtzwatson1984]

One of my best friends who died a few years ago told me he didn't really believe in any afterlife, he figured it would be just like whatever it was before he was born, and he wasn't afraid of it. Made me think about that possibility differently because the thought of nothing after death used to terrify me.

[@swapblue]

Death is not painful but the transition is. Ask people who have witnesses death in front of them. There’s so much struggle and pain in the final moments

[@jpetrullo6890]

Idk why but the fact that he pointed out how death won’t make us suffer, and that it doesn’t do anything to harm us is sort of really peaceful. Makes you wonder that the fear of death is rly just the fear of losing everything we know, but once we are dead it’s eternal peace.

[@chrisloydmas8499]

Thats all speculation.

[@misteromega5354]

But it wouldnt be peace. Peace is perceived. Death is nothingness. No consciousness. No perception of it being.

[@bioemiliano]

Organisms that want to die will die and not reproduce to leave their descendants, organism that want to keep living will leave descendants, thus only organisms that want to live will remain. Fear of death is not hard to understand, wanting to die is.

[@Fnberg744]

Your soul's never ever ever EVER dies. Please read. Something. ANYTHING.

[@Fnberg744]

@SlamScum you literally just caused me to spew my drink.

[@dougvelliquette7655]

Broke out into laughter when JP did the semi-face palm. My had was in the exact same position!

[@noniechonieful]

I ODed 8 years ago and died. It was one of the most incredible and moving experiences of my life. This life isn’t the end. You’re still very much “you” after this.

[@championx1]

Ya...no.

[@mazzymae1009]

I'm glad you made it and hope you're doing better, wish you all the best. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@wardogjohn]

glad u respawned

[@nope929]

@@championx1 what do you mean "no," have you never had a near life experience or had your heart stopped or something which does as the OP said?

[@nope929]

@@wardogjohn she's probably referring to death as a legal death when you get revived, which considering they said they OD'd is entirely possible since a lot of drugs can make you legally dead for a moment.

[@L47M]

Before we were alive it was nothing.. it makes sense that it's what will happen after.

[@c.odubhlaoich2948]

If you've ever had a near death experience and been in a place that felt "familiar" it can make you second guess this assertion

[@TRJK]

well, here death is defined as straight death, as he said, you cant be where death is, meaning you never were dead. It was just something your brain made up in stress. Also, you cant feel familiar, because you never were dead before.

[@c.odubhlaoich2948]

@@TRJK I've never been dead no, but that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying a near death experience when you're actually about to die, and feeling like the "place" you're in feeling somehow familiar, would seem to mean something rather than nothing.

[@TheKaneECO]

@@c.odubhlaoich2948 Death is not near death. Anything in a "near death" experience has no overlap with the experience of actual death. Because actual death has nothing to experience in the first place. It's as Sam said. You don't experience anything before you existed so why would you experience anything after?

[@c.odubhlaoich2948]

@@TheKaneECO Explain people who've been dead for minutes with no brain activity showing up in the scans but still being brought back and having stories to tell

[@TheKaneECO]

@@c.odubhlaoich2948 can you show me and example of that happening. I looked it up and found nothing.

[@MsCaryopteris]

Just having it end and be nothingness would be like dreamless sleep. That’s nothing to fear. Life is tiring because so many people are bullies or control freaks or just loud and obnoxious.

[@mee23chelle]

Are you okay Jordan? Sending prayers.

[@ghostrelic3303]

I don’t waste time on worrying on death or religion or anything I just live I love just being and that’s good enough for me

[@ScientObject40]

I just accepted that I don't know what's after death, and I don't wanna know if there is something.

[@moda8509]

Ignorance of the law doesn't justify breaking it ... so u might as well know about it

[@beastshawnee]

all I want is nothing after I die. This life has been a trial and it’s been mostly horrible for my own personal experience. I’m glad I’m alive right now and I am not looking forward to any painful end. But if I had two buttons in front of me and one said relive five minutes of your childhood and one said never be born at all. I would push those latter. I made sure that my daughter had a different experience and that she had a decent life and so far she really has and she’s the first to say how grateful she is that I am her mother and none of the mothers of any of her friends were her mother. I wished for different parents all the time when I was a kid. I loved my mother and I still love my mother but she did not protect me from dad. She often ignored me she was certainly neglectful even when I was very young she was quite neglectful and I was malnourished I was dressed in clothes that were painfully small and I had rocks in my shoes that I could not get off of my feet as they were strapped on too tightly and double knotted and left on my feet for days and days and days on end. More knots had built upon the other knots and they were knotted the whole length. I started biting the shoelaces to try and get my shoes off and my older brother asked why I was doing that and he went and got scissors and cut my shoelaces so I could get them off. After that I went barefoot as often as I could. today I can see that my mother had a form of autism/Asperger’s possibly and she lived her life more inside of her head and didn’t really notice everything going on around her all the time. Don’t get me wrong she’s very smart and when she did interact with me it was most all positive. Everyone wants me to hate her for allowing all of the abuse because it was extreme extreme abuse but I forgive her because in someways she was a victim as well even though he did not hit her. She still tries to defend him which is where I really have a problem with her. It’s like he took over her soul in some ways and she could never allow herself to clearly look at how evil he was. I cut them off five years ago and he died last month. Tomorrow is his memorial and I won’t be going I will be in another state on purpose. I will be there to try and control my CPTSD issues rather than hear people gush over how wonderful a man he was because that was how he groomed everyone around him So that they would allow access to their kids as well and so that no one would believe us as we told of his violence and insanity. So they can go have their little memorial and she can warn her husband of her imagination because he was a horrible husband who never bothered to work very many years of his life either. She supported all of us. later I will see if I can handle being around my mother again because I do love her but I do not welcome the trauma of dealing with the past with her. We shall see I am not certain. My sister is going to spread his ashes over one of my favorite places in the world so I will never be able to go there again. Isn’t that great!?

[@TASmith-ou3is]

I used to say death will be like a vacation.

[@2199SPUDMAN]

The other mind blowing thing to consider is that once you are dead, the passage of time has no meaning. Imagine that you were somehow reincarnated in what you perceive to be a moment after your death. That moment may have lasted trillions of years by Earth time. Even a trillion years is infinitesimally small compared to eternity.

[@anthonymullings8539]

Entropy ftw

[@excelself]

Fk…

[@DarkmanRides]

You'll never know what death is until you can pass through it and return to the living.

[@jamariousjohns9234]

There’s nothing to pass through. Death is not a thing. It describes the failing of your physical mechanisms

[@DarkmanRides]

@@jamariousjohns9234 so then you are alive when your physical mechanisms are working whether you work inside the womb or outside of the womb. Hints fetal homicide laws different subject I know.

[@jamariousjohns9234]

@@DarkmanRides I don’t understand what you mean about the womb? You are either alive or not alive.

[@DarkmanRides]

@@jamariousjohns9234 the human form existing in your mother's belly before you get spit out that's the womb and you're alive in the womb but you're not in this earth

[@iron100ful]

Tell me your your thoughs, life, conscientious, experience, everything you know, or feelt BEFORE you were born. For me, that's death... The same thing before I was born.

[@OwnedByTheState]

It's not the idea of death itself that bothers us, it's the dissolution of the ego we anticipate. The death we fear is not the death of our body, but the death of the idea of ME.

[@danielzarb-cousin8074]

Sam has a great way of saying what we already know but with about a thousand too many words.

[@MrKago1]

Peterson does that on occasion. but there are usually interesting insights with both. haven't seen this full discussion, but if this sample is representative, this is the way debate should be done. both come away with new insights to not only their own point of view, but that of their opponent as well.

[@apbt067]

We don’t know anything for sure.

[@EnglishWithIzabela]

I like him, but he does use too many words. Very intellectual words, but it's like a 2 hour meeting that should have been an email. 🤦‍♀️

[@shreeded]

But do you “know” that?

[@kirathekillernote2173]

Please type here what you know so that we can see how you compare

[@Ken-pi7qk]

Yep if there really is nothing after death then sure there’s nothing to worry about apart from the regret that you’re leaving this life. There is also the worry associated with how you get to that stage, ie you can die peacefully in your sleep or you can die in pain

[@UKYusei]

I've experienced paranormal things to not believe in ghosts and an afterlife

[@Ryknfjor]

Right! Theres something else going on that science cant even begin to explain. Paranormal things are real, but they arent on this plane of existence.

[@TASmith-ou3is]

Yes. I have also experienced things that are unexplainable if there is no spirtual dimension that is separate from physical life.

[@vinnyc365]

Take your meds.

[@Ryknfjor]

@@vinnyc365 is that a reminder to yourself?

[@vinnyc365]

@@Ryknfjor Why would I reply to your comment with a reminder to myself? That makes as much sense as your comment itself.

[@matthewmc4363]

Energy is neither created nor destroyed.

[@michaelwinter742]

There is a ton to worry about. I have a wife and children. If my experience ends when I die, then I need to take my time now to set them up.

[@michaelwinter742]

@@jayslater324 Who I am is no longer limited to my living body. Who I am includes them. My love needs me to care for them, as well as myself.

[@kwetsbarevrijheid2720]

Don't worry, they'll die as well.

[@scottmatznick3140]

@@michaelwinter742 check out quantum immortality. I have anecdotal experience to back that theory up. I found the theory after trying to explain my own such experience.

[@michaelwinter742]

@@scottmatznick3140 At large scales, such as cells, the odds suggested by quantum immortality make it essentially impossible. At the scale of multicellular organisms, the odds are so low that, in the lifetime of the galaxy, we wouldn’t expect it to even come close to happening once.

[@frankcompagnone8550]

It wasn't a dial tone at all,there was something there that was a complete understanding of everything that exists,the how and why and everything else. It's like the most highest level of peace..all your answers are right there for you to grasp. Then a surgeon arrived and I was brought back.. that was the time I nearly died.

[@justinjacobson1414]

NDE?

[@juiceman1887]

When you die your brain releases DMT

[@frankcompagnone8550]

@@juiceman1887 it felt like I was absorbed into something massive, like a sponge soaking up water and then I became part of an ocean and the ocean became me .I was at one .I thought I had experienced eternity. I hope so. I'm going back someday

[@brendanhall3310]

I don’t remember when the dinosaurs walked the earth because i did not exist, I also wont remember after I am gone because I will not exist.

[@joshuahenderson]

Just realized that Norm Macdonald quoted Epicurus to Larry King in his podcast.

[@kieronjdonovan]

For all we know we did experience the space before we entered our bodies but as Sam said it’s incompatible to think about, just the same as what comes after.

[@robertciabattoni1590]

If this rant stressed JP out …..no worries I was making a confused “ Benny Hill face the whole time 😟

[@donion2122]

Prof Peterson doesn’t look stressed out in this clip. Peterson’s simply looked like he was really focused. Also.. Why were you making a confused face?

[@tomben6180]

He’s thinking about it and then agreed. He doesn’t look stressed he’s trying to figure it all out.

[@thesprawl2361]

This reminds me of the quantum machine gun thought experiment, which has fascinated me since I first heard it. The basic idea(some of the details may be slightly wrong, but the overall structure is the important part) goes like this: there is a machine gun on a tripod, and it's set up to(automatically) either fire or misfire based on the spin of a particular particle. If the particle is spinning one way it fires, if it's spinning the opposite way it misfires. And it does this with every bullet. So there is a 50/50 chance of the bullet firing or not. Now you sit down in front of the machine gun and press a switch to make it begin firing remotely. You'd expect half the bullets to fire and half not to fire, and after just a few rounds you should be dead. But the machine gun goes through 500 rounds and misfires every single time. And you're still there at the end of it. Now this thought experiment requires an implicit assumption - it requires the assumption that we live in the many-worlds, Everettian quantum multiverse, where there is a universe for every single possible occurrence. Ie. in this multiverse, everything that's physically possible happens. There's an almost infinite number of branches in this multiverse that, taken together, cover every single possible timeline. If we accept that assumption(and it's a relatively mainstream assumption these days in quantum physics) then from a first person perspective the gun will misfire every single time. You can run the experiement over and over and it will never fire. Simply by chance, the rounds will misfire every time. The reason for this comes back to the point made in this video; that we cannot _experience_ non-existence. Being dead is not something we will ever know. As a result, the only kind of universes you can end up in when you run the machine gun experiment are universes in which you end up alive. Of course there are many universes where the machine gun tears through you and kills you instantly, and your family and friends watch on in horror. But you will never experience one of those universes, because there's nothing to experience. Your conscious mind will _necessarily_ branch into a universe where the gun jams every single time. The fact that it's vanishingly improbable that the gun should jam five hundred times in a row is irrelevant. It can be as improbable as you want and it won't matter, because the alternative(of experiencing death) isn't just improbable...it's impossible. Theoretically a scientist could try this experiment and prove conclusively that the multiverse exists. But we would just see them die, because the only way you survive is from a first person perspective. The impossiblity of experiencing non-existence _forces_ your own 1st person consciousness into a universe where you still experience things, ie. in which you're still alive. But for any 3rd person onlooker you just get ripped to shreds by the machine gun. So it'd be a worthless experiment for everyone watching the experimenter run it, and would just be a messy suicide...but for the experimenter it would be life and career changing, and would shatter the foundations of science and philosophy. The difference between the first person perspective and the third person perspective would be the difference between a deluded scientist killing themselves with a machine gun...and a visionary scientist proving beyond doubt the existence of the multiverse. There are some hefty practical problems with this thought experiment, but it is fascinating nevertheless, and at its root is very hard to argue with.

[@chrisnelson3691]

Of course it is hard to imagine unless you have had an experience to show you, you never die, your body dies, your consciousness lives on infinitely, the voice inside your head that is you, that exists forever, I didn't get far enough to see exactly where you go but I was on the brink of it, I could see the glow and actually hear this place, unfortunately there is no way to prove it so there is nothing I can do to convince anyone but our consciousness lives on after the body dies, I used to think that it was just lights out after you die but now I think it is crazy to believe that our consciousness dies as well.

[@boguslav9502]

Did you Die as in accident?

[@CSBenivok]

The voice inside your head is you as much as anything else is you. It is an experience over which you have a sense of control. If you had a near death experience and had visions of a place, it is most likely because of the large amount of chemicals released in your brain. It is interesting to wonder about afterlife but to say you know what will happen is simply just ignorant.

[@michaelkish7526]

That's because we gain our souls once we're conceived before that point we didn't exist.

[@midnightthief7321]

You do experience an absence of experience under anesthetic tho. Or that is to say, I have personally experienced a blank time slot more than once after coming back online from an operation. Ive also experienced a dream after the snip op, which happened i would imagine just before I came back online an started to chocke / bork and pulled the trachea tube out myself. Personally, I see conciousness as experiential. Which I believe is an information exchange across a singularity boundary. No information passing across the boundary, no concious experience. Thus, I still experienced the passage of time under anesthetic, but there wasnt enough information to perceive anything from any of the other 5 senses. I think the 'I' or self, is simply 'that which pays attention' and sits somehow looking out into the universe on the boundary of a singularity. and the level of concious awareness, is the amount of information that passes across / through it, making conciousness scalable, or, a gradient, from proto concious awareness, which would simply be the lassage of time, to human level, upto the totality, or what is more commonly anthropomorphised as 'god'...... Which is juat the universe exploring itself. Woo woo as fuk. But I dont care 👍

[@fortylove68]

I appreciate your thoughts. However there's a big difference between medically induced unconsciousness, and our bodies expiring.

[@hellothere11]

I'm curious what you mean when you say, "I have personally experienced a blank time slot." If you think about what you truly experienced was it not going to sleep in some place/state, then waking up in some other place/state? When waking up you obviously inferred that time had passed because things had changed since your last memory of being conscious, but was there any direct experience to speak of while actually unconscious?

[@mr_reborn]

Interesting

[@donsolos]

The truth is often stranger than fiction

[@adilfhortler1398]

You're brain wasn't made to understand nothing, it's made out of something. They're complete opposites. The best way to picture nothing is to not think about it. Everything that's not going through your head is a good way to picture nothing. It's simply not there. What's the problem?

[@Angel-vd2hr]

It’s really hard to conceptualize “nothing”. Even when there doesn’t appear to anything in any particular location, thought, etc. - there something there. Everything is in relation to something else. Even in an air vacuum, there is the existence of a vacuum due to the fact there’s stuff around it and “nothing” occupying the space in which the vacuum exists. That’s how we can identify a vacuum exists. Pretty cool though.

[@Strings-jg2to]

But what you don't think about is still there regardless.

[@bobbykeating7976]

It's not that hard really. It's like a night of heavy sleep where you don't remember dreaming. You close your eyes and what feels like a second later you open them and it's morning. In between was nothing for you.

[@Angel-vd2hr]

@@bobbykeating7976 I understand what you mean because that is how we understand “nothing”. What I’m pointing to is the idea that there is something there. The fact that you went to sleep, had a “blank” moment, and woke up proves the existence of the “blank” moment (meaning the blank moment happened). So you can see the blank moment as “something” since it happened. It’s outside the normal way we use language to describe the existence of things but it’s fun to think about.

[@TheYabMan]

For those who live by Virtue, there is no need to worry about what happens when one dies because the hope for heaven is already being lived and found. Let God worry about the rest.

[@FALL3NW0RLD]

“And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.” ‭‭Daniel‬ ‭12:2‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[@Kev7035]

Lmaaaaaao

[@Jdeals14]

Reprehensible

[@williamjordan5554]

Ancient middle-eastern myth.

[@audistik1199]

Oh. I’m sooooooooo enlightened.😖

[@thethumper088]

Oooooo spooky. Nothing like good old fashioned fear to control the masses, eh.

[@tdkyt46]

He has his rendition of "its a fucking circle of nothing so I'm going to over complicate it like I'm high af on weed" My rendition as an atheist of how death works is just like before birth you don't know and don't feel anything. You die believing its the end, the suffering will stop, you don't expect anything because its death and time to finally rest.

[@bemm6035]

Sam: the question is unknown, by design

[@CharlesTragesser]

“By design?” Talk about making an unfounded assumption. If our existence was designed, I want my money back.

[@bemm6035]

@@CharlesTragesser ooowh thats a mountain of paperwork I would not suggest😂

[@bemm6035]

@@CharlesTragesser in response to your “unfounded assumption” comment: In science🤨, the control group is unaware; To make known life’s purpose would eliminate choice as a variable.

[@anthonyhernandez4266]

@@bemm6035 ok but would that be a bad thing? Are we meant to do something or not?

[@bemm6035]

@@anthonyhernandez4266 I am simply identifying that our lack of awareness regarding our purpose here can be attributed to an experimental group within a social experiment. The controls seem very similar. To know god and purpose, would influence behavior, and falsify results🤭

[@321findus]

I've been knocked out by surprise by a sucker punch. Within what felt like a split second I was outside a bar, then in my (sober) friend's car. I imagine that the moment I die will feel the same, except I won't wake up again. I used to be filled with existential dread, then religious spirituality, then stoic agnosticism. Since we can neither prove nor disprove that an afterlife exists, I'm going to fucus only on the time that I know I have and try to have fun without hurting anyone. If I can make at least one person's life better, I will happily accept death no matter what might or might not ensue

[@chekhov1860]

I love your turn of phrase. Your first two sentences could be the lyrics to a song.

[@SocksWithSandals]

Since the age of 10, I have completely come to terms with my mortality. It's what we do here and how that affects other people that matters, not booking a ticket to some fantasy.

[@wojo9732]

You have sinned against the God of the universe, you need to repent and believe in Christ.

[@youtubespag]

@@wojo9732 these crappy baseless threats dont help your case. I dont fear your false god.

[@tuckerrichardson2606]

@@wojo9732 and which God is that exactly i forget? Allah? No no Jesus, wait maybe its the Jewish one.. or maybe that hindu fella, maybe its a she like that celtic gal, or a bird person like the egyptian one. See how silly your statement is now? It'd be like me hopping on here and preaching my gods, I'd be laughed off the internet lol, believe what you believe and hey share it where applicable but the internet isn't the place.

[@JanoyCresvaZero]

Exactly man. This is what makes us different from theists… Theists believe they should be good people because their death is a ticket to some eternity with dead friends and family and pets in some cosmic afterlife, whereas we understand that what we say and do in life is what matters. We will be remembered for who we are and what we do, not how we acted in private or what our thoughts were. We don’t live our life in service to how we think we will be judged in death, but judged in our LIFE. THAT is what’s important.

[@JanoyCresvaZero]

@@tuckerrichardson2606 That’s what I never understood… How Christians can have such conviction to think that their own PERSONAL psychoses are somehow the right ones when there are literally hundreds, if not THOUSANDS, of different gods and religions across time and distance on Earth. “I speak to God and God speaks to me!” Sounds like some homeless meth addicts I’ve met in my life.

[@beanman9086]

As a atheist i have no clue what happens after death and will never claim what will or won't happen. Live a happy life, and treat others like you would want to be treated.

[@djdrisco123]

“Nothing to worry about, really.” I’m not worried, I’m terrified! But hey, ya know, it’s just the end of existence.

[@innerDialectic]

Me too man.

[@iron100ful]

Tell me your your thoughs, life, conscientious, experience, everything you know, or feelt BEFORE you were born. For me, that's death... The same thing before I was born.

[@MarioRodriguez-ys6pf]

Totally agree with you.

[@americanexile5987]

Oblivion is an active state. A living nothing. Existence without consequence or necessity for choice. The ultimate fear of the human condition is not that we will cease to be. It is whether we actually exist or not; either reality is the most impactual motivation for our most significant decisions.

[@vijion2020]

Get ready to realize how dumb we all are

[@fignewton8690]

Perhaps what we Truly are is prior to mind. It’s right here right now and is so subtle we miss it! If we do just a little Self inquiry, we quickly realize we observe our thoughts. If we try to see from where our thoughts arise it can’t be found, if we try to see where the thoughts vanish after they have subsided… that place doesn’t exist. We can’t possibly know what we will be thinking 1:43 from reading this or what our biggest problem was 4 problems ago. The body… we observe the body, so what we truly are is prior to the body. We remember childhood body, teenage etc… so what we are is prior to the body. If we sit in meditation with our attention on just the sense of Being, we are aware of the Sense of Beingness. We go past the body/mind past Beingness, an Overwhelming sense of Blissful peace, and Love arise for no reason. This vast nothingness. Such beauty can’t be described. So can we agree what we truly are is beyond the mind? When the veil is lifted all is revealed! ❤️❤️❤️

[@radicalgreek99]

Oy Veying intensifies

[@epicbehavior]

Let’s think about this, if time only relevant to us when we are conscious, and you didn’t exist before, and you somehow exist now and are experiencing things, the second you die from your perspective time would move infinitely fast, to the point where whatever potential it took to create “you”, could be born again. Think about it, if there’s no “you” in there separate from the physical atoms that make up your brain and body, what are you? The lights are on somehow, so you would have to be the universe itself. What objective boundary is there’s between your physical body and the rest of the universe? We’re dissipative structures after all. We literally eat, drink and breathe atoms from the external and they become us, physically & literally. What’s the difference between the infinite universe itself (which happens to be conscious btw) and God?

[@demon13doc]

Do you remember what it was like before you were born? It'd be like that.

[@kiradripkage]

What’s the point of living then

[@neonred869]

What if you're wrong? Are you gonna come back and redo your mess? You're saying it like you have experienced death. Just to avoid certain hard questions we just make an excuse not to answer those questions.

[@Bibky]

@@neonred869 Trying to rationalise life as purposeful and somehow non-observable spiritual concepts and phenomena as true is a form of avoidance from permanent end. There is thousands upon thousands of conflicting beliefs, ideas, gods, purpose, spirituality that cannot all be true or incorrect. It is simply a form of cowardice humans produce to explain the unknown, we know what happens after death and we can observe it in the material world: your body dies your brain ceases to have activity and you slowly decompose until you are nothing. If you can’t accept that you’re avoiding the hard answer: nothing comes after death.

[@neonred869]

@@Bibky Your view is somewhat mistaken. There are not thousands of belief system. There are a few major religions tbh. Christianity and Islam have the potential to be the true religion if you ask me. Don't tell me you don't have time to look into these religions deeply. Your only excuse is I am too lazy to look for the truth.

[@tommydevine9993]

@@kiradripkage watching awesome movies, playing Elden Ring, eating pizza and other delicious foods, chilling with friends and family, discovering passions, exploring new places you've never been, learning a new language or learning how to play an instrument, and on and on. There's a shit ton of stuff that you can do and enjoy and learn and experience while you're alive. The fact that you have a limited window to do all those things before you die makes experiencing them that much more rewarding and fulfilling. The real question is, if you're religious and believe in a life after death, then what's the point of life in that case? Convincing people to join your religion? Seems like a pretty bland experience. And for what? So you can hang out in the clouds forever? Might be fun for a thousand years or so, but eternal life would probably get rather dull after you've done literally everything that can ever be done... And you'd be unable to ever escape and you'd be bored out of your mind for the rest of eternity... Basically sounds like the description of Hell, except there are clouds and angels instead of fire and brimstone. Either way, it would be inescapable and literally last for eternity.

[@ericbartha6313]

Norm McDonald brought up this very point, albeit as a joke, to Larry King. Norm was a genius and no one ever really knew it. RIP my friend

[@cashglobe]

I thought the realization of spiritual truths, like the immortality of Being and Self, would give me less anxiety about death, but it actually brings more death anxiety. When my metaphysics and beliefs were that of a strict Atheist/Reductionist, my death anxiety was really high: a fear of “nothingness”. The insight that Sam describes here would’ve been helpful to know at that time, since it’s a completely irrational thing to believe if you are actually an Atheist who believes life is this meaningless meat space.

[@user-zi8lg5qu1h]

It's like sleeping you don't know when it starts you don't procieve it (uless you are dreaming but that's not the point). I am one of those people who isn't against idea if the God but I accept that if he exists he wants us to be good people and don't hurt others needlessly. He shouldn't need us to warship him and do some certain rituals if he is a being of pure love

[@Dynamo33]

How is it irrational to believe that the severing of your brain functions leads to the cessation of all experience? This a biologically demonstrable fact. Anything beyond that is pure unfalsifiable "woo" as Richard Dawkins would put it.

[@greatarabia8091]

@@Dynamo33 Dawkins is a cannibal. That's the type of person you follow. Do you think consciousness is physical? Can you show me where it is? Describe it to me in a quantifiable manner? Dawkins is not a scientist. He's a darwinist biology teacher, nothing more.

[@Dynamo33]

@@greatarabia8091 Baseless allegations that have nothing to do with any of the point that was made. You're aware cannibalism is a very serious crime and that falsely calling someone a criminal is slander, right? Define scientist then, because by the very literal definition, he is a scientist. Also, yes, consciousness is absolutely physical, the fact you cannot fathom that your brain is just a set electrochemical reactions that grant you certain hormones given specific stimuli doesn't make it not true.

[@donsq4306]

@@greatarabia8091 Show me the proof of heaven in a scientific manner.

[@filipelopes99]

Try to remember the exact moment you fall asleep, that's basicly the same thing. You don't remember it because you weren't conscious to be able experience it and remember it

[@terrimobley6067]

It's a hell of a gamble from my pov. (no pun intended)

[@ianmclean3626]

The thing to worry about is that not existing is a terrifying concept

[@dbmicah6909]

"You didn't experience oblivion before you were born." Bro what was you doing before the womb?

[@doumjawaziri5579]

Metamorphosis

[@JustHighOnLife101]

That’s his point lmao he’s comparing the time after death to the time before birth, both of which are an absence of experience

[@tim90003]

@@JustHighOnLife101 good summary

[@audistik1199]

You simply don’t exist before being conceived, just like after death. Why is this so hard for people to understand? They are constantly being deceived by Religion. And morals are a product of man, not some deity. Duh!

[@tim90003]

@@audistik1199 the truth is truly to painful for many a people to deal with on, say, like, a daily basis.

[@eldante4139]

No one knows what we experienced before we were born. Not remembering isn’t knowledge that nothing exists. I don’t have any meaningful memories before I was a few years old but I know that that time most definitely existed.

[@Lin-rh6qs]

I mean, yeah, that's exactly what a majority of atheists believe, that death is just that, the end, nothing else. That's why you should always live your life to the fullest, love to the fullest, succeed and experience to the fullest, because, if there really is nothing after this, then your existence has been a waste.

[@johnorson6907]

Sounds like you’ve been reading too many YA novels.

[@Lin-rh6qs]

@@johnorson6907 out of genuine curiosity, not trying to be rude, but what do YA novels have to do with one's out look on life and death?

[@mohamedbenchohra]

Waste based on what? Waste is only meaningful if there's regret afterwards. Nihilism is more compatible with atheist, just not caring about anything because nothing matters. Atheists should really consider the alternative, what if there is an afterlife? That will be the ultimate screw up. For believers, it doesn't matter if there isn't an afterlife, they will equally "none existing" like everybody else with no regrets whatsoever.

[@Lin-rh6qs]

@@mohamedbenchohra I've heard this argument a lot, and I have considered the flip side of if there is an afterlife. My answer is, and always will be, that if there is a heaven that exists that will not allow a decent human being, which I believe myself to be, in based solely on a lack of belief in it, I would rather not go there. I don't want to spend eternity with people who only think the exact same way I do, it'd be pretty boring.

[@mohamedbenchohra]

@@Lin-rh6qs Apparently, "decent" human is very subjective in your case and anyone can say "I'm a good person". It doesn't matter actually. Consider this, purely with survival instinct, if there is a god, they can do whatever they want. God doesn't have to make sense to anyone IN PARTICULAR. Fortunately, there is a god that does and is quite consistent. I don't consider god to be evil, but even if it were the case, it's still in the best interest of the person to survive. If there's a heaven, it's up to the one who made it to decide on the "eligibility" to enter it, same goes for hell, if they exist of course. Boredom?! People really underestimate physical torture and think it's better than boredom, just try touching a hot stove for a few seconds and see if it's better than boredom. Contrary to what you might think, It's not easy to get into heaven, if it exists of course. At the end if the day, atheists only speculate when it comes to the afterlife, which goes against the core belief of atheism, which is having an empirical proof for anything in order to consider it.

[@justdead99]

People just can't accept that when it's over its over.

[@creed7779]

You want to know what you're Haven or hell is. It's DMT releasing into your brain as you're dying so you can see multiple things you can see your life flash before your eyes you can see something that looks like your heaven or if you have regrets you might even see something that would be your own personal hell. So don't mess around with your life so you can have the heavenly DMT experience.

[@mmninc.848]

Joe, I respect your interest in the afterlife and neurology but I think you're missing the mark. That idea originated (or at least was popularized) by a poppy documentary, "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" and is underwhelming both metaphysically and scientifically. It's possible that consciousness itself generates these experiences as the host decays. Furthermore, it's likely that there are other neurological factors that could generate hallucinatory experiences near death. Read more about this; there's a lot to learn!

[@12mmratchet84]

I think my ultimate fear of death is conscious nothingness. If it was an endless black void for eternity that'd suck. Of course getting your skin ripped off in a pool of lava for eternity is also pretty fucking bad/worse

[@greatarabia8091]

You can bet on the magnificence and intricate laws of physics and the infinite sophistication of the universe that there will be heaven and hell after death. Only animals will cease to exist. Humans and jinn(the unseen) will move on to their eternal residing place. Hopefully heaven for us.

[@petterblakk]

I remember getting this when I was 8. I saw a withering flower on the pavement and realised I wasn't asking if the flower went to heaven or hell. Its dead and will become dirt and thats that. Humans are no different.

[@donjohnson1290]

Humans are no diff with ur flower example…..So there’s nothing all that spectacular about us then….Our minds, our anatomy, dna 🧬, How everything in the world is obviously created by a designer. If there’s no afterlife what was this for and why was this done? Why do ppl feel the need for a purpose, how do emotions work, we are programmed a certain way to feel certain things about numerous issues and at a very young age…Explain how that occurred? If you tried out faith as an atheist who believes we just came from an explosion and the galaxy with infinite power to destroy earth if 1 Single Thing or Measurement were placed differently up there should be enough to convince you that something that isn’t bound by space matter or time had to create those things. Overwhelming evidence that we aren’t an accident from an explosion or we came from apes - That’s just as far as our human brains are able to think of logical explanations but ever heard that were only able to access 20% of our mind. Think of a super reality where everything is sooo clear and understood due to a dream. Times that by infinity and you’ll barely have a glimpse of understanding how this was all created because we didn’t create this. So discussing how it all could have happened is irrelevant and chasing a tail. There are satanic demonic things on this earth and the Bible tells us of this being the case and tells us a lot more things in perfect contrast to what the end days will look like-I dare u to research ppl who are wise on this subject of what is expected to be align when the final days are upon us and I guarantee you you WILL see some of these things either in the beginning stages or Shockingly Very Probable given where we’ve ended up in 2022.

[@propriusly]

You can always hope.

[@MarioRodriguez-ys6pf]

False hope. You die, turn to dust, become a memory, and eventually forgotten.

[@issoulescondes3913]

When my grandfather died when i was 7, i tried to understand what could be going on after death and quickly realized it may be total nothingness, at first i tried to visualize myself existing in the middle of nothingness, no perception but the consciousness is still there, just nothing to experience, and then i realized i was wrong and that nothingness is absolute, when you die, you consciousness dies too not only the perceptions it receives I didn't sleep that night

[@petterblakk]

@@donjohnson1290 nah. your brain is just atoms just like the atoms of a flower... and thats ok. i know you've made up your mind but i can promise you instead. it is what it is, no need to think about it.

[@Meta9871]

But there IS something to worry about, outside of this dilemma. The ones who love you will miss you.

[@blakegivson4871]

Watching Jordan think is an amazingly beautiful thing... I dont follow him but I’ve seen him on jre.. agree with him or dont... but at least admit that he gives his absolute best..

[@susandavis6477]

After death then the judgement !

[@simonrogers2720]

Wrong!

[@chrisloydmas8499]

@@simonrogers2720 no one knows tho....literally no living person knows what happens after death. Only dead folk do

[@simonrogers2720]

Then there should be no assertions without evidence.

[@caesarprice3252]

@@simonrogers2720 then nothing may not happen. There could be something. Why us human have a consciousness in the first place?

[@simonrogers2720]

Religion is a construct of control, control the imagination control the person. We are merely bio chemical flames and like all flames, once they're out, they're out.

[@JohnKerbaugh]

It's not anti-physics to say that you're a consciousness could slip into a static of the universe and experience something but basically nothing. But you'd also have no frame of reference because all your memories of prior experience are left behind along with your personality and everything that you urged for.

[@jaromirdub2803]

I’m still missing people who I was with before I was born

[@simonsavgard5841]

Right.....

[@mcmilliftw1166]

They’re right it’s not like when you die your like oh shit I’m dead this sucks. You can’t feel any type of way happy or sad cuz it’s done it’s over there should be no fear of death based on a afterlife death only sucks right before you die. People live their whole life in fear of their final moments of uncertainty. But you can be absolutely certain.

[@Icedanon]

The real question is, why do we experience the soul to begin with? Everything could be done in its absense. What is the driving force of your life having a soul vs not having one?