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[@TPlocks]

Hands down the best breakdown of this battle so far!

[@westdino5]

Lies

[@ayrtoncordeirogonsalvez4032]

Drake mentioned Kendricks wife first

[@missmccoy6010]

matt is that you ? LOL

[@brian4rmthewood]

@@missmccoy6010 it sure did get pinned 😂

[@_gold_3925]

judging by the rest of these comments...u straight capping , and ofc math pins the only positive comment about him🤦‍♂

[@qaspanova]

Kendrick fans say Kendrick won Drake fans say Drake won Everybody else says Kendrick won!

[@sabelondlovu9296]

Even if Kendrick fans say Drake won. Kendrick won. what were the 2 biggest moments of the battle?

[@qaspanova]

@@sabelondlovu9296 Every moment had it's relevance really. Like That was a shocker, Push Ups was a good response, Taylor Made was provocative and Drake was riding high that time, Euphoria was a rap lesson and a warning to keep it rap (it's my favourite of all the tracks) 6:16 was just a cool track, no serious jabs, the craziest moment of all though was Family Matters and Meet the Graham's coming out same day! FM was the better track of the 2 in terms of rap but MTG shock value took out the life of FM, before people could digest those, the BOP was dropped and the rest is history

[@Peacekeepa317]

No. I don't care for either artist. Drake had better punchlines and his points about Kendricks false pro-black stance was exactly what I always thought about dude. It was more grounded than all that Karen shit on MTG. "You're a body shamer". Shit like that is wack and effeminate. Which is saying a lot vs a dude who paints his nails

[@kazoh0lic]

All other people say Drake won. Bots say Kendrick won 🥱

[@Peacekeepa317]

@@kazoh0lic It's so obvious. A bunch of comments saying the same shit that are posted in batches at the same time. It's disgusting

[@iamgreat2332]

The irony of Math talking about going to far in a battle when he punched someone in the face during a rap battle lol

[@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID]

Twice ✌🏽

[@linusfingesi2222]

😂😂😂 FACTS

[@Hinokami777]

Yeah like someone can’t learn from a. Mistake over 10 years ago lol grow up

[@linusfingesi2222]

@@Hinokami777 Well regardless of he has learnt from his mistakes he doesn't have a righteousness ground to scold others on the extent of Rap Beefs....Fact is, they say, he who comes to equity must come with clean hands.

[@1992CaliBoy]

Just like Drake 😂 he wanna punch someone in the face until he gets punched by someone else (Dizaster) and call it unfair. Typical Drake fans

[@richardwilson2827]

no grown man should be texting a 13 old little girl

[@ediiii_offf]

Drake mentioned Kendrick family name first in “Push Ups” then Kendrick destroyed his ass.

[@OzzieAznRefugeez]

He says it, definitely didn't write it though

[@loriewhalin5853]

Math is clearly being obtuse or he is chosen to clearly ignore the Whitney bullsh@t. He is compromised. He in the same boat as Ak.

[@josegarza1886]

What Whitney bs though

[@ZarbonSpitwell]

@@josegarza1886I think he is referring to the fact that Drake brought up Whitney 1st

[@kimzziereenee1638]

I think he is playing devil’s advocate for the sake of the convo

[@talklesslistenmore5578]

Exactly

[@stlgardener6122]

Drake also mentioned Dot's "uncle" in Push Ups as well, who is trans. People skip over that as well.

[@DGentryFitness]

Math sure is making a lot of exceptions that he doesn’t usually make for other people for Drake lol

[@Godofthisworld-vf2bh]

Math acting like Cortez ain't wrote barz for him

[@jeffm1083]

He’s compromised

[@bakariwalker854]

Cause Drake smashed Ken

[@poetycvisionz]

I think some of these dudes be paid opposition or UMG reach is really that long. I don’t think many of these dudes have a free tongue to speak their natural feelings because it can cost them some sort of recognition or money. I used to listen to MEO often, but when the lingo started to sound suspect I left.

[@bendavis3386]

I said this same thing!! He knows this is out of his character. Could he be one of Drake's Ghost Writers? Or is Drake paying him? I don't get this. He lost!! IF Drake won after saying that wasn't Kendrick's Kid, we would not be having this discussion... This has nothing to do with RACE... It has more to do with misappropriating the culture... I am the Biggest Fan of Eminem.. He is my GOAT... You can see the ginuwine person in him. He is him. He admits his influences. He raps about his world... He STANDS for something... Kendrick basically pointed out why Drake is a FRAUD.. and yall tryna make it seem like this Battle was only won because of TEA??!?! That's not the ONLY REASON why he won... Beside's isn't that how you win a Battle Rap, MATH??

[@CordreHunter]

This man compared texting his niece to texting a random 13 year old 🤦🏽‍♂️ just stop talking dawg

[@yomamma.ismydaddy216]

Kendrick : “you dunno nothing about thatttt” Drake: “well you beat your wife” Math: wow Kendrick went too far 😂😂😂

[@Kiowa371]

This comment is so underrated! 😂😂😂

[@DGentryFitness]

Math really compared him texting his 13 year old nieces to Drake texting a 13 year old of no relation about boys 😂

[@constantinatyes2478]

He wants Drake interview 😂

[@christopherrobinson1219]

man look. people being disingenuous just because. yall know damn well that man was not inappropriately texting that girl. its b.s. that people jus runnin w

[@SHOTBYSLUGGER]

(I) dnt know a damn thing and neither do you because those msgs didn’t come to your phone you don’t know wtf they were texting about dnt be quick to take up for a stranger that literally doesn’t know you exist respectfully.

[@DGentryFitness]

@@SHOTBYSLUGGER 😂🤣😂 I never said I knew anything. All I said is that Math compared him texting his nieces to a 34/35 year old man texting a 13 year old that’s not related to him.

[@Monte4415]

How did you NOT understand Math? Both of these people are stars? They are more than likely going to know each other.

[@mizah316]

Math, you keep saying that Kendrick crossed the line when he issued the warning, yet Drake had already said Whitney’s name on Push Ups. As soon as Drake mentions his wife, it’s gloves off, and yet Kendrick still gave him multiple warnings..Bias

[@elliottwilson2352]

He wants that Drake interview

[@Fade2BlackSS]

Facts. It was the same thing with Push and Drake mentioning his wife. Saying people went too far when shit starts to go left and out of your favor is like starting a fight and saying, no fair because the other dude hit you too hard. 😂 Math is a clown bruh.

[@Arceye_UK]

Facts

[@bruh...imnotgoodatnothing.4084]

Not only that, the way laid the bar out, he made it seem like his wife was sleeping with the bodyguard.

[@tekluasqualu8341]

He is totally one sided

[@thecolormahogany2000]

Not Mr. Trap rapper turned Smack rapper siding with Drake 🤣🤣🤣

[@bonafidemc]

Math is a fraud! The show is literally called, "My Expert OPINION", and you sitting there wit popcorn saying, "it's none of your business?" Craziest answer ever!

[@saintslime5670]

Watch a Kendrick interview and a drake interview and watch how they speak about hip hop and loving this sport. The difference is there

[@matthewallen1834]

Homegirl is right, Math. Drake crossed the line first by mentioning Whitney. He did it to himself.

[@tedgramz1905]

Fr. Kendrick literally said dont do it and then when drake did it, kendrick explained why he was going in on him so personally.

[@JODYE4RMTHESIX]

We need more fathers, They been talking about this man son. Just say you’re a Kenny fan.

[@matthewallen1834]

@JODYE4RMTHESIX I am a father. I'm not saying it's cool to keep bringing up Adonis or anyone's kids. But Drake keeps doing this stuff first with people's women in his disses. He can't act like dudes go too far when they mention Adonis. Drake ain't got no steady women, so who does he expect folks to mention that's close to him in response to him going overboard first? And context is important. Kendrick - and Pusha T - never talked negatively about Adonia himself; it's always about Drake's relationship with him, which isn't the same thing. Again, it still ain't cool, but Drake ain't no victim in this; he's an instigator.

[@k-way8471]

@@matthewallen1834so y’all mad that drake brought up a chick he been with for over 15 years done cheated on and whipped her ass. If Kendrick cared so much about her he should have did the manly thing and married her and not cheated with them white women

[@ediiii_offf]

True.

[@justaguywhomakescomics6532]

Math said “Fcuk reality! Drake won!”😂😂😂😂😂

[@CM_Speak33]

Kendrick had been telling Drake “I wish you would” for over a decade. Math you gotta do your math respectfully. Listen to control. Most people forget that Drake got in his feelings over that verse and Kendrick dropped the first diss record as his bet cypher. Go back and listen to that wit 2024 ears🤯💎

[@electricmoxie6433]

Kendrick issued a warning in Euphoria after Drake mentioned Whitney messing with bodyguards in Push Ups.

[@BlakeZeb]

You don’t warn somebody by going even harder on the thing you’re warning them not to do. Thats back handed provocation. Unironically some manipulative shit while he’s claiming Drake is the manipulator.

[@86Sentra]

@@BlakeZeba warning is a warning tf

[@BlakeZeb]

@@86Sentra If somebody bumps into me, and I warn them to back up while going out of my way to shoulder check them, that’s not a genuine warning from someone who don’t want to go there, that’s looking for a fight lol. But alright.

[@BlakeZeb]

@@86Sentra And I’m not even saying he’s wrong for it, I just don’t buy this whole “ohh he didn’t wanna go there but he did want him” narrative. He wanted to go there lmao

[@RicRugerFlare]

Warned him again on 6:16 in LA

[@Doomer253]

Math ok texting and DMing a 13yr old girl? That's weird bro.

[@godwynndexter]

Yep, it's sus'!I had to unsub from the channel a while ago, Sub Zero exposed Math for dealing with the Zionist...

[@BlakeZeb]

Yall are weird lmao. He was a child actor. At the time, she was the biggest child actor. She has denied him being anything weird to her, and even defended his character as a great mentor in the industry. COULD it be some weirdo shit behind the scenes? It could, but could it also be totally innocuous like BOTH sides claim? Absolutely and it’s weird that people can’t fathom that.

[@AlbertoDelacruz92]

@@BlakeZeb OK so now explain the Womens HS basketball games and drake going out w shorty as soon as she turned 18....It's all about context so lets not leave that out and see why people can't fathom that being regular...btw I listen to drake more than kenny but damnn kenny cooked.

[@BlakeZeb]

@@AlbertoDelacruz92 You mean the basketball team his goddaughter was on, and a girl he didn’t do anything sexual with? Yeah what about that one? If the shorty that turned 18 you’re talking about is that time he supposedly rented out a restaurant (only one I’m aware of) that girl flat out said she was in an entire different state when it happened. He was just with a girl that looked similar and tabloids ran with it.

[@BlakeZeb]

@@AlbertoDelacruz92 That’s kinda what I’m saying man. I didn’t like Drake before all this but when I started digging into it because of this beef… I can’t find the fire, just the smoke people blew

[@TripMakeitknocc]

“What I learned is niccas don’t like the west coast and I’m fine with it I’ll push the line with it” 🎯

[@dvnychvz9757]

Math felt so compromised during this whole beef

[@4linegoon632]

Nah shorty was cooking math

[@g-holy]

Negative.

[@kesha297]

​@@g-holyPositive 😂😂

[@yaboy1414]

Hi Key

[@OGXIV]

@@yaboy1414 over talking and cutting a person off ? Y’all weird

[@alex_reloaded144]

Yea cooking allegedly 😂

[@brian4rmthewood]

Trying to validate texting a thirteen year old 😂😂😂 this is the expert opinion.

[@mond921]

😂😂😂

[@xoioioioioio8084]

He's texting a 14 year old celebrity.

[@brian4rmthewood]

@@xoioioioioio8084 what’s your point besides stating the obvious?

[@RoseBarber-uf4bf]

​@@brian4rmthewoodclearly the 14 year old celebrities parents monitor their conversations and business relationships so what's it to you bozo

[@brian4rmthewood]

@@RoseBarber-uf4bf lmao, math calm down. You’re the only bozo here trying to justify this sucka behavior. Keep going off tho.

[@FreedomWritersVI]

Math is looking crazy right now. Defending a man, text a 13yr is weird, and saying it's fine. At least i know not to have my children around him. Math needs help.

[@ChopChoiceBeats]

Grow up, weirdo

[@oluway4545]

You are creep, u don’t know what their relationship is, but assuming something sexual just means it’s something you’re capable of doing. Which is nasty.

[@danielhall1226]

Math is wildin. A grown man trying to "be friends" being young girls/boys is weird

[@lg3385]

Kendrick basically backed up the I'm Terrance Crawford I'm whopping feet bar. Drake didn't learn from the Pusha beef about mentioning wives. Lastly if Drake didn't move weird, the PDF stuff from Kendrick wouldn't hit as hard.

[@toddmaek5436]

Joe Buddens bodied Drake before PushaT did

[@lg3385]

Yeah I've just recently heard some of the Budden disd EP 🤣. He was definitely going in but because he didn't have big name recognition, nobody really cared

[@BlakeZeb]

You kinda have a point, but to me, it just shows that he won because people don’t want to be critical. He won because people hate Drake and want to believe the worst about him. Every girl he’s supposedly “moved weird” with has denied anything weird. And every one of those has a totally innocuous explanation. Could he be on some weirdo shit? Sure. But for everything we know publicly, him AND the women involved have done everything one can to prove it wasn’t weirdo shit.

[@killablackmambakbm7593]

​@@BlakeZebDrake has weird PDF tweets, and lyrics about teenage girls. That is on top of kissing minors on stage and texting minors and around high school girl basketball teams. Not to mention rolling with dudes with a similar cases of trafficking or being involved with minors. Any 1 of those things alone would be worthy of drake having a creep or weirdo label. A decade plus of weirdo activity. He can't sue for defamation because he has had plenty of credible displays of creepy activity which shows calling a PDF isn't slander .

[@BlakeZeb]

@@killablackmambakbm7593 I’m tired of arguing about the vague allegations, but if you wanna bring up something specific we can discuss it. I’ll agree there’s enough for a weird look on the surface. I don’t agree with yall acting like he’s a certified pedo, or even that it’s more likely than not. Especially when ever. Single. Person. He’s accused of being weird with has defended his character from what I’ve seen.

[@ADTrax]

Math, stop it. Kendrick responded to Drake and Cole on "Like Dat." Nothing about family. Drake responds with "Push Ups" and "Taylor Made" talking about Whitney. Kendrick responds on "Euphoria" and warns him. The context of the "you don't know nothing about dat" in context of Drake spending money to find tea about Kendrick and not coming up with anything while Kendrick is with his family. Drake started it and got finished.

[@vickiedavis2311]

Facts

[@AaronFigueroa1]

THIS! And its crazy to think math is supposed to be a lyrics guy and is not catching any of this

[@lreez977]

@@AaronFigueroa1it’s really insane I always thought these super lyrical folks were smart ppl But their inability to look beyond their biases speaks volumes. Rapping to them is like chess or spades. You can be really good at a game that requires logical thinking but that does not necessarily make you smart. It just means you’re good at that game.

[@freshempire7477]

I still find it hard to believe no matter where da battle went he wasn't gonna talk about drake's kid let's be real it's a easy angle to use on Drake its public as well. I don't think he needed drake to go there just to use that

[@thedrillmill]

Math will never live down that bar when he rapped "flew her lil ass out hope her mom don't find out" 😮 😂 Drake fans are differentttt

[@onyxonyx4744]

Drake AND Kendrick fans are pathetic but Kendrick fans really exposed how corny his fan base is. His fan base is filled with straight up white guilt liberals and fake woke couch activists lmaoooo. Drake has more actual hood black fans than Kendrick. Damn shame lol

[@cousinchris5851]

Kendrick won. Meanwhile BBL Drake is doubling down on being a colonizing lame. That Sexyy Red verse was 💩 Master Bedroom? Really!?

[@chi-townlowend1812]

Math is on some sucker 💩

[@oreo519]

Kendrick has no record of doing anything like that. Drake has a long record of questionable stuff.

[@heraldofthunder6244]

There's a rec bruh people got paid kdot beats women like drakes a pedo.

[@mikejones6394]

Kendrick put hands on a woman at a casino. Google it

[@Peacekeepa317]

He's literally said it at 2 different points in his career. Bars about knocking her on the floor

[@heraldofthunder6244]

@Peacekeepa317 as well as a security guard and some other woman in Las Vegas who got paid to keep quiet whole crisis prevention team came in. All Googled stuff

[@mikejones6394]

This is how I can tell your not a kendrick fan your just a Drake hater. Cuz u would b aware of kdots confessions

[@cheryljackson5364]

Why is Math not getting how weird it is for a grown man to text a 13 year old

[@mpagan15]

Math is okay with grown men texting 13 year old girls as long as it's not "sexual." Dude has no common sense whatsoever.

[@guardiny1]

Math is a groupie ! You ain't getting a Drake interview!

[@clintfatulauoletolo8621]

that part lol

[@roguerra4161]

Straight up!

[@Dusty_Flair]

🎯🎯

[@sillimilli3802]

He a fan 😂

[@bakariwalker854]

Nah, Drake won

[@Adtro2]

This guy need to be looked into... he's fighting a little to hard for a relationship with a child

[@jiggaman000]

you should be looked into. what are you hiding?

[@HeartOTC]

Facts. Math exposing himself so crazy lol he should stop talking especially going against 2 educated ppl

[@XxThePhantomFreezexX]

@@jiggaman000 ol "i kno you are but what am I" headass boy 💀

[@itzcandy5896]

@@jiggaman000I think the person defending a grown man texting a 14 year old that’s not their family member. U defending that? U need to be looked into

[@Peacekeepa317]

Except that's not what he's doing. You should be able to stand on your musical preference without doing all this weirdo shit.

[@roguerra4161]

Kendrick went directly at Drake on Like That, then Drake went below the belt mentioning Dots wife on Push Ups. From that point on, the gloves were off stop the cap. Kendrick did what he had to and handled business.

[@onyxonyx4744]

Kendrick didn't 'handle' anything. He lost lyrically. ''I'm what the culture feeling''. He fed off of the jealous, industry Drake 'hate' with little to no bars for most of the battle. HE didn't do much of anything. He pandered to the fake woke/xenophobic/colorist crowd and made a pedophile anthem and people were dumb enough to ignore his weak rapping

[@805Raw]

Thank God for Mecca being a part of this podcast!

[@didivieira3448]

Shorty know her hip hop, 46min mark she said drake won’t ever be in my top 5 in hip hop cause he got ghost writers.. 100% facts I said that 10 years ago to my boy when he was comparing Drake to BIG, JayZ and Nas lol 😂

[@bakariwalker854]

Drake smashed Ken, like obliterated dude

[@WrthaDime]

@@bakariwalker854 drake ain’t smash shii dude waved the white flag after the not like us exposure

[@bakariwalker854]

@@WrthaDime And Drake clearly told dude to let him know when he wanna talk real. All them wack beats Ken was on lol!!!! N he wasn’t talknbout ish!!!!

[@WrthaDime]

@@bakariwalker854 drake was out here saying he bated Kendrick with that info then said the ppl he got the info from were clowns and b4 that basically called him short said he beat his wife without showing proof and said he had a bad deal which he contradicted himself cuz he was signed to a nigga that’s signed to multiple niggas his beat choices were cool but this ain’t no producing battle this is a battle of the disses and lyrics and he wasn’t saying shii if u asked me

[@86Sentra]

@@bakariwalker854delusional 😂

[@Tisa1011]

Math seems like he’s a little jealous of Kendrick. It seems like a lot of conscious rappers are upset that Kendrick is able to sell music to.

[@zGrover402]

Put Lupe Fiasco in the mix 😂 he's the biggest Kendrick hater for no reason AT ALL. You would think the mumble rappers would hate Kendrick, but it's actually the frustrated conscious rappers

[@hefrmdat901]

Honestly I need someone to explain all the hate tbh…. I even heard Kendrick is overrated🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Alex-by8if]

Why do you care if someone don't like Kendrick..... everybody don't have to like Kendrick ..... get off is d.... I like Kendrick and drake.....darn yall be worse than eminem stan

[@Vivrant__Thang]

@@zGrover402 Dot changed the landscape and broke the mold…the West Coast legends gave him the torch to carry on. They recognized he was blessed.

[@legacy9867]

Math is still upset at the Control verse. It's clear he has a serious problem with K Dot

[@jdidonna1]

“I haven’t heard a Sexyy Red song in weeks” and then Drake’s first drop after the beef is a Sexyy Red song lmfao this guys is a clown

[@KDASH201]

And thats Math man lol

[@vitotntceo]

Brah that shit was over after euphoria. Period. Kendrick displayed multiple different flows an rhyme schemes throughout k dots songs we never expected drake to out "rap" k dot ... did we? Really?

[@onyxonyx4744]

'Flows' don't win Rap battles. They never have lol. Bars do. You don't know Rap like that. Put Kendrick's best diss bars in Euphoria up against Drake's best diss bars (Family Matters) and Kendrick loses CLEARLY when were are talking actual well constructed punchlines, rebuttals, metaphors and entendres. Kendrick is not as 'nice' lyrically as what his fans think. He's not a very clever writer. He does well with concepts but that man has NEVER had bars like that and it was exposed in this battle.

[@gr86er]

@@onyxonyx4744 drakes bars were lazy against Kendrick and on all disses Kendrick’s were more memorable. Drake wasn’t directing half of it towards Kendrick either because he dissed others for filler. Rebuttals ain’t never won battles either. The hardest disses were all on the offense

[@MosaicButterfly]

I'm sorry, texting a 14 y/o girl "I miss you so much", as a 30+ y/o grown ahh man, is 1000% weirdo F.A.N. behavior. There's no justification for that unless it's your daughter. And the fact that this is only 1 of MANY questionable instances from this dude with underage girls points directly to that "groomer" tag. It's completely earned imo 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@tiimeizmoney]

Shut up

[@Adonis7Belguim]

Factz💯

[@369pendulum]

No it’s not. That’s literally nothing. I miss you so much? Is that sexual? Is that an invite for sex? Y’all so thirsty to make any & everyone a criminal

[@thehoneydripper09]

Period!

[@kriscotd76]

Unless it’s your daughter..There’s is zero excuse

[@denisemilanifan704]

No one discusses the culture vulture shit around Drake when discussing the battle.

[@UnderdogBT]

Drake is not a culture vulture though.

[@Peacekeepa317]

Because it's total bullshit. It's illogical and dumb

[@atarahsvoice5268]

Right! It’s mad annoying, I’ve never respected his music because of his vulturous ways

[@TruVice718]

@@UnderdogBTcan you say that when this nigga was Jamaican one year and then “Londonese” the next? We all knew that wasn’t originally him.

[@flip334]

Why doesn't she let ppl complete their thoughts sometimes?

[@godb.i.l.a.l.1870]

No debate Kendrick killed him lyrically and artistically, Math Dick Riding.

[@bakariwalker854]

U crazy lol!!!! Wack beats, lackluster rhymes

[@knicks4life635]

Bro what the fk is math talking about?

[@HeartOTC]

Corny af

[@bakariwalker854]

Drake won, n that’s the truth

[@kb2maxx]

Math is REACHING just to validate his weak ass points 😭

[@lovinglife7317]

He’s not teachable

[@medaanhil4133]

It's feeling weird. He hasn't let it go and it's been over a week

[@terrencewilliams4355]

Math is not a good debater. A lot of his points feel like they are not well thought out ands it's emotion and off the cuff.

[@bakariwalker854]

What is a reach is that Ken beat Drake. Wack beats, lackluster rhymes ya dead

[@SnapIsFarOut]

Math opinions been kind of bitchy lately 😢

[@cothegr8]

Facts

[@Sweetie1229.]

Math is jealous!🤷🏽‍♀️fake and compromised!

[@tyvondoom4073]

Math is a fan😂 ain't no way you saying Kenny started the personal first when Drake mentioned his wife in push ups stop the fanning bro it's obviously Drake was most mad when you listen to the Heart Part 6 math stop this 🤣

[@ShortKingTheGoat]

Clearly you’re a delusional Stan, because Kenny literally mentioned his kid first on euphoria, then on meet the grahams even more personal.

[@jeffreyyoung5598]

Maff was always a drake stan

[@HippieWorldEnt]

@@ShortKingTheGoatYou do know push ups was before all those tracks right?

[@slumdogrio]

Bruh it’s ok to take your cape off and go tend to your kids lol

[@MiAmigoon3051]

​@ShortKingTheGoat what are you talking about?push up been out drop drop drop drop drop 😂😂😂

[@tonybrown5958]

Math got the timeline wrong. So his whole argument is wrong.

[@beewirks]

Math is corny. Drake mentioned Whitney first in Push Ups. Kendrick is allowed to say you’re a horrible father. He didn’t start the whole family angle. Drake did. All this shucking and jiving for Drake is so lame. He lost!

[@marcusjohnson6668]

Drake been begging for this he even had a blow up on Marcellus Wiley show talking about how he is so much better then Kindred just ranting and going in...the same way he got butt hurt behind the control verse. His ego got the best of him and he got humbled.

[@ronaldforde2481]

Man… what happened to math? Why he acting weird for drake… we don’t know if any of the allegations are true so why he defending drake like he got the proof… plus defending the 13 year old is wild math… lost mad respect for you on that… smdh bro wtf???

[@user-vp5gw3vm9f]

Math was falsely accused in the past he not with putting labels on people without proof

[@bakariwalker854]

Cause Drake won. Most artists agree. If u don’t actually do it, it’s like talking what u don’t know

[@ronaldforde2481]

@@user-vp5gw3vm9f the way he’s defending drake without knowing if it’s true on top of the visuals we see makes no sense to me. If you’ve been accused then id suggest don’t talk about it defiantly don’t defend someone when you don’t know definitively is innocent. Instead he capping like it’s about money, however how can you accept him defending texting 13 year old & kissing on 17 year olds. Anyone who sees that as ok… maybe don’t have daughters or are just creepy. I’m 47 with daughter and granddaughters and that shit is creep!!

[@phillyl4235]

​@@bakariwalker854 Drake lost by a landslide. Not even close.

[@bakariwalker854]

@@phillyl4235 O u taking bout Ken? I agree lol!!! U’d havta b nuts 2 think Ken won with all those wack beats, non-quotable bars, and lack of diss content. But Drake shouldn’t even b in this, he uses ghost writers, he can’t ever fix his mouth 2 say he is the best anyway…but based on the material put forth, Drake won bruh

[@SabrumBaker]

Kendrick clearly won no debate

[@pharoh2700]

Cole Won

[@mikethacker4141]

Kendrick

[@animalklick]

Hip Hop won

[@PorkChunky]

Nobody won.

[@StoveGod1]

Dot won wasn’t close

[@haphduzn612]

Math ain’t making no sense. Because the implication isn’t aimed at Adonis. He is directing the emphasis on Drake’s lack of parenting. That’s an indictment on Drake, that has zero ramifications on Adonis. Period. Frame it how you want, fam. But it ain’t the same thing. Kendrick warned him, repeatedly. Drake suggested that they’re bodyguards were too close to Whitney. What was the Bodyguard about? A sexual relationship between a bodyguard and his benefactor. Why is it that every interaction with Drake, involving an underage person, they happen to be a female. Never a little successful male child. Does that not make alarms go off in your spirit?

[@Komplexkai]

37 Drake was never the under dog in reference to Kendrick … he elevated quicker , and Kendrick just now today proved that’s no longer a discussion

[@onyxonyx4744]

Kendrick has never and will never be a better Rapper than Drake. Y'all prefer his pandering socially conscious subject matter. Everything after GKMC has been corny or boring. He doesn't have the 'wit' or the charisma or an interesting enough story to be THE GUY.

[@CiCSkitzzee]

i usually fuck with you Hoff but your waaaaay off on this one... respecfully.. Meca was on point

[@RomeDCarlo]

Drake reading his lyrics off his phone during his Hot 97 freestyle was the first time I questioned Drake’s knowledge and respect for the culture

[@XxThePhantomFreezexX]

tha infamous Funk Flex reading off his Blackberry "freestyle" ... Flex btw also dickriding Aubrey

[@doloking7667]

Blackberry was paying rappers to do that

[@Skywalker721]

@@doloking7667Foh with that lame argument. That was goofy period. It’s Flex & that ain’t Hip Hop.

[@cbaabc4889]

​@@Skywalker721 FACTS

[@plattheadz]

Method Man freestyled using his cell phone on Sway in the Morning......so what are you gonna say that Meth isnt legendary? Man stop being fake and praise these two different artist and give them the props for what they have done for the culture.

[@Kemozabe]

Anybody saying Drake won does not respect hip hop

[@onyxonyx4744]

Drake won and I've forgotten more Hip Hop than you've ever known homeboy. Y'all are 'fake' Rap fans that think liking Kendrick 'validates' you. The reality is most dudes that REALLY KNOW what's up, think that Kendrick is corny. He had ONE album in GKMC that deserves praise. Everything else has been corny or boring. He got his boots SMOKED by Drake in this battle

[@shettywap]

​@onyxonyx4744 lol Brother, you lookin mighty compromised.... Optically, streaming wise, and strategically, he won. The advantage that Drake usually has in support and numbers he objectively lost. That's is a shocker to dang near everyone. He took the sails out of his best track in Family matters. To be able to sway public opinion in that way is masterful. If you watch the reactions to the song, it shows you this very thing. People walked outta the song sorry and remorseful for Adonis. 😆 If we go by Drake and his fans metric (numbers) he lost on this front. This is the biggest one that should tell everyone that here is your winner. Where you excel is precisely where you lost. Go check the numbers on streaming. Go check the like to dislike ratio on KZbin.

[@shettywap]

​@@onyxonyx4744 you can like his music more, sure. Doesn't remove the fact that he lost. And that's alright. He'll keep making his bubble gum music.

[@RWrght13]

@@onyxonyx4744 Lil homie my ears have forgotten more hip hop then you’ve ever heard! The fact you think drake won shows you don’t know anything about this hip hop shit!!! Homeboy got ethered then dropped a “diss track” (heart pt 6) sounding like he about to cry!?! 🤣 Drake got exposed as a liar and a fraud! Shit pass me what you puffin on loco!!!

[@mankay2000]

Math caping like CRAZY for Drake. Going to all lengths

[@kb2maxx]

I can’t believe the glaze math is doing on Drake

[@bruh...imnotgoodatnothing.4084]

Drake is heavily involved in battle rap culture.

[@allyzm1027]

@@bruh...imnotgoodatnothing.4084 Drake is heavily involved in sneak dissing, and attacking rappers' significant others and women. Drake is no battle rapper.

[@mond921]

​@@allyzm1027he said involved means he put some money somewhere in them circles

[@flip334]

Plenty of battle rappers are glazing Drake. It's pathetic lol

[@cuzjuan]

Believe real bars bro, it's a battle not an art contest or crime mystery who done it documentary.

[@beeweezee71888]

Kendrick won clearly!

[@Olivierstreet]

America won

[@stayfocused8739]

Facts 😁

[@bakariwalker854]

Clearly how? Wit them wack azz beats, lackluster rhymes, and only 3 diss topics. YALL nuts

[@BlakeZeb]

@@bakariwalker854Right? If you’re going to spend 3-4 tracks all with the exact same angles… I expect a little more work done to PROVE those angles and not just rely on the internet to carry a narrative for you. Kendrick might’ve won the battle for the masses but he’s lost a lot of his aura for me.

[@phillipharrison3846]

if Drake was texting Math daughter without him knowing, he would go crazy

[@victorstone5364]

Math would ask her get a feature for him. At any cost

[@phillipharrison3846]

@@victorstone5364 hahaha 😆 😂 🤣

[@dandyung]

It's crazy how battle rappers talking about someone cross the line .... especially when it comes to drake.... Drake steady talk about other people wife and ish ...

[@Sweetie1229.]

So hypocritical.

[@BlakeZeb]

I might have misheard, but I don’t think he said “cross the line” as in “oh that’s too far you shouldn’t go there” He said it as in “cross the own line you are trying to set”. Which Kendrick did do.

[@Rinse3lfuerte]

Math talking some BS. Homie is really trying to get that Drake interview bad! 😂😂😂

[@bakariwalker854]

Nah, Drake won. That’s the truth

[@houseofmatrix6174]

So Joe Budden wants Kenderick interview

[@andrewilliams6367]

Who is this woman. She talked for the first 4 out of 5 minutes lol. Like damn I came here to hear rappers opinions on this shit. Edit: I am now 21 minutes in and this chick won’t shut up. Everytime they try and make a point she cuts them off to give her 2 cents. I’m finding this difficult to listen to while I’m cleaning the crib.

[@blazeuchiha5]

Was saying the same thing SMH.. she talked through so many points that was trying to be made it's crazy

[@kazoh0lic]

This female trying to school the battle rapper about battle rap, embarrassing 🤨

[@shettywap]

Yall must be Drake fans. Lol 😆

[@blazeuchiha5]

@shettywap Nah Kendrick all day 😂💯 .. when he dropped that 6 foot 7 foot freestyle I knew he was go be goated one day

[@gazac5018]

We need more episodes like this

[@eyemeal]

Math u tripping smh they must a paid u

[@bakariwalker854]

Nah, Drake won

[@BlakeZeb]

@@bakariwalker854As someone that went in with a huge bias in favor of Kendrick… I agree. People aren’t thinking as critically as they wanna think they are. Drake slayed that shit on almost every front, flipped every angle, but if you only look at a surface level…. Maybe you can say Kendrick won. He played into narratives people WANT to believe but didn’t do anything to prove them any more than the internet already had, while saying things that can’t even be proven false. What Drake said can easily be proven false but it hasn’t been… that should raise eyebrows.

[@eyemeal]

@bakariwalker854 cap he contradict his self the whole battle. In battle rap this happens all the time

[@BlakeZeb]

@@eyemeal How? I feel like Kendrick contradicted himself more. Such as trying to shame Drake as a deadbeat (despite him not being that as far as we know) while opening up the beef on a track with Future.

[@lolimsweet]

@@BlakeZeb how the fuck he win if you didn’t even write this shit? It is a simple as that nonetheless.

[@kplovely9787]

Math is weird as fuck for defending Drake's creep behavior.😳 Creeps defending creeps😅

[@davidbasil6060]

Stop it he’s trying to be unbias and objective by playing devils advocate

[@kiyonaleesmith2606]

@@davidbasil6060yeah but don’t be unbiased when it comes to what’s inappropriate behavior towards kids!

[@itzcandy5896]

@@davidbasil6060he can try all he wants he does not come off as unbiased here. He def seems like a drake Stan and is constantly throwing Kendrick under the bus this whole clip. Nothing abt his stance seems unbiased from what I’m watching

[@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID]

"KiKi... do you love me"...???

[@g-holy]

Nah. He kept it real. U just ain't.

[@cactusjack2264]

Never knew Math loved Drake this much lol everybody be looking at him sideways anytime he defends Drake especially when he obviously got COOKED against Pusha and Kendrick 😂🤣😂

[@thoughtprocess2779]

Why math tryna act like being a dead beat dad is the same as a chomo makes me believe he ain't spend a day in jail. If you been inside you wouldn't be giving if this if that to the situation

[@boblazar5639]

What is math talking about? Drake on pushups mentioned his girl and that’s when Kendrick took the gloves off

[@billybillz4443]

No. Kendrick dissed drake first on that song with future

[@xl576]

@@billybillz4443no. They’re talking about who mentioned family first. Learn to comprehend first Billy.

[@robertfoster6940]

​@billybillz4443 comprehension is important bro

[@cornellabraham4914]

Nigga said I be with them body guards like Whitney? Whats the diss?

[@billybillz4443]

@@xl576 to comprehend one must watch/read the passage. And that i didnt do haha

[@LogicalGentleman]

Yea they’re clearly forgetting drake LIED about giving kendrick false information with those same items…That wasn’t a clout chase. Drake lied and got exposed.

[@BlakeZeb]

I consider myself a Kendrick fan, and think you gotta listen with a critical ear to pick up on everything. That said… Drake didn’t say he fed the picture. Yall being too hasty with interpretation. He said he fed the daughter info, and that you gotta FACT CHECK things like the items in the picture. He didn’t say that stuff was fed. That absolutely can be read as “yeah, someone sent you a pic of some random items. I know when I lost that shit, and I know it don’t prove shit.”

[@juliustolbert317]

@@BlakeZeblisten to heart part 6 again. Drake said they gave him those items

[@BlakeZeb]

@@juliustolbert317 Trust me, I did before I started saying it. “You gotta learn to fact check things and be less impatient Your fans are rejoicin', thinkin' this is my expiration Even the picture you used, the jokes and the medication The Maybach glove and the drug he uses for less inflation Master manipulator, you bit on the speculation”

[@jayd6068]

Whitney mentioned in pushups makes Math wrong about the one crossing the line.

[@TheWallethead]

She’s a Drake hater

[@DaLaunie]

MATH!!!!! What 14 year old are you texting??? Would you let your daughter text Drake???

[@Sweetie1229.]

They would

[@romeothegreat7323]

Lmao

[@astralmindny9055]

Exactly! He must be a HUGE Stranger Things fan.

[@naturallynailah6983]

Listen Math trying to justify a man engaging with young girls makes me side eye him

[@mybrothakeeper7020]

Maff unfortunately will, it’s sad. OvO Math

[@kar7ik]

People don’t even consider Drake mentioning Whitney in Push Ups to make their point. And what all Kendrick did was 1. responded to Whitney getting mentioned because he was not gonna let it slide and it was 1 for 1 and 2. that he put out a warning literally to not push it further! And then Drake pushes it further and then rest is history! It’s simple to understand if you consider all the things and not skip any (may be due to being subconsciously biased for some reason or just being consciously biased) And not take shit seriously about Drake?? Im outta here.

[@HipHopTheology]

Exactly

[@robdawson5835]

I dont judge rap battles based on who has the best tea 🍵 lol whomever i feel gives the best lyrics (bars) wins for me

[@onyxonyx4744]

Which was Drake clearly in this battle. It's exactly what most of the battle rappers were gauging and it's why they have Drake winning lol

[@shaunteh1]

Could’ve sworn Drake mentioned Whitney name first… “Don’t speak on the family Crodie…” was literally a rebuttal.

[@jahdeez]

Not did Drake throw out abuse accusations, but he also claimed Kendrick’s kid was actually his friends kid and that his wife cheated… math is on the ovo payroll.

[@youngatwista]

Yall don't understand podcasting. It's calling playing devil's advocate. Show would be boring and the comments, like yours, wouldn't be going crazy if everybody just agreed and went home.

[@itzcandy5896]

@@youngatwistano but he’s saying some stupid biased inaccurate stuff. Like why is he acting like Kendrick’s bars were taken from somewhere but no mention of drakes bars, he just listed ALL KENdrick. He keeps trying to make the playing field even and it’s not. Drake lost and he seems in denial over that

[@jonapp1497]

​@youngatwista So if that's the case, Math should let someone else play that role. SMH.... Also it is very popular to make it know to say, "To be devils advocate" ............... 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@belleami7675]

Aaaaand, telling her to shake that ass for Freeze and shake that ass for me. 😱 And NOBODY talks about that. That's an ass-whooping. Ion care

[@Skywalker721]

@@youngatwistaand debating in bad faith is poor podcasting because he’s lying & disingenuous about who crossed the line first. He acted like Drake only mentioned Whitney in one bar in a harmless way, but he mentioned her more than once on pushups & he was insinuating the mother of Kendrick’s children cheated & had a baby with one of his close friends. At least be genuine in your argument homie.

[@dimer_dozen]

This was supposed to be a friendly exhibition within the game, but you fecked up the moment you called out my family's name. I guess that went over Maths head.

[@AgentSephiroth]

Math twisting up the facts to make his invalid points. Bro felt like kendrick called him a bad father.

[@bxpupil]

Dope convo.

[@TooSmoothSE]

How many pockets is Drake lacing with these defenses? Now battle rap has CNN rules?

[@aya9af]

💯

[@zGrover402]

"Saying Whitney be with bodyguards justify Kendrick calling Drake a pedo?" There is FOUR disses between those two facts Math, this guy can't be serious 😂😂😂

[@kinglui3422]

Huh? Kendrick had all those songs written already. MTG wasn't a response to Family Matters. That's the route he was going, He hinted at it in Euphoria. Not to mention, the whole Euphoria song was personal attacks. How you gonna warn someone not to get personal, and then get personal on the same song? He was manipulating the audience into thinking he wasn't getting personal, so he could come with MTG, and fans would support him. Congrats to him, because it worked, but that doesn't change reality

[@dantemccullum841]

​@@kinglui3422Euphoria was mostly things other people had already said he was repeating what the culture felt.

[@zGrover402]

@@kinglui3422As far as we know Kendrick had multiple records, I doubt he would've dropped MTG without Drake taking the bait of going at his familly, Kendrick knows the public would look at him like he was desperate. I agree with almost everything you said, my stance is: both parties got personal at their own will and responsability, no one can cry about crossing limits like Math is doing right here. I believe Kendrick baited him into getting personal first too, and this was smart. Let's not mix things up though, Euphoria was NOT personal. Could you quote the personal lines in the song?

[@XxThePhantomFreezexX]

@@zGrover402 Kendrick had 10 records waiting on deck ... he definitely had sum pure rap diss records but people forget Kendrick knows AUBREY Drake is a character Aubrey plays cuz hes an actor its his greatest role Kendrick knew Aubrey would eventually fall back into his feminine gossipy ass tatics by mentioning sumones girl (like tha Pusha beef) Kendrick has been dissing Aubrey NOT Drake

[@markmercado89]

Hell yea!!! Mention somebody wife/family then it’s war.Some don’t take disrespect lightly.

[@ediiii_offf]

You don’t know shit about what you talking about, Drake mentioned Kendrick wife name first in “Push Ups”.

[@itzcandy5896]

Dude on right clearly is a drake Stan cuz why he only list Kendrick lyrics as “we’ve heard it before” and none of drakes bars? That’s some biased shit. He was defending Drake to death while throwing Kendrick under the bus. I’m sick of these Drake Stan’s tbh this is why we no longer care for him. That bias was crazy

[@aya9af]

He's getting paid or a ghost writer

[@Peacekeepa317]

We never heard anyone go at Kendrick directly period, so how does your comment make sense?

[@SoFlo30569]

The Youngins don’t care about having ghost writers, jacking swag or lyrics. BBL Drizzy is the quintessential Sucka MC.

[@jcityhustla617]

Drake lost and will forever have the PDF Downloader stench on him

[@Youngxfatal93]

facts but in due time he’ll get used to it. His music will still thrive but forever get clowned on

[@Professorxrh17]

@jcityhustla617 nah Drake won 3-2

[@jasonk333]

Would Math be cool if a 30 year old guy was texting his teenage daughter “i miss you” ?

[@treyvonjenkins7377]

Drake said Kendrick’s wife’s name (whether it was a double entendre Or not he still said it) Kendrick gave him 2 warning on euphoria to not to mention his family or it can go left Drake drops Family matters calling out his wife AGAIN and how one of his kids not his AND the father is his manager/Friend AND how he was beating her😒 DRAKE DID THIS TO HIMSELF I don’t wanna hear this bullshit on how Kendrick went too far when he gave him MULTIPLE CHANCES to NOT speak on his family

[@BazookaJoe93]

Drake opened it up on push ups when he mentioned Kendrick’s wife

[@estamosensalsa6722]

So Drake fans would let their 14 year old daughters talk to a 30 year old men smfh yall wild

[@naaimshareef]

@estamosensalsa6722 What Kendrick was saying regarding Drake is all allegations just as what Drake said regarding Kendrick being physical abusive to his wife or his girlfriend is all allegations. Kendrick & Drake took the battle to gossiping, rumors, allegations, mud slinging & the ultimate disrespect.

[@johnpapadopoulos906]

Drakes diss songs were better than Kendrick’s.

[@andrewilliams6367]

@@naaimshareefthis particular fact is just that though, a fact. The girl Millie said it herself that they were texting each other and he was helping her with boys. That is some groomer shit. I’m 31. I ain’t tryna talk to no little girl about boys unless they are a family member. That shit is weird.

[@naaimshareef]

@@andrewilliams6367 I do not know what this young girl Miller said about Drake to be a fact myself. Now maybe it is true, i could be wrong. If it is true then this child's parents should file a lawsuit against Drake..

[@andrewilliams6367]

@@naaimshareef don’t think they can do anything. He technically didn’t break any laws. Just the moral laws on not being a creep.

[@Yella265]

Is she gonna let them talk 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@TheWallethead]

She’s just a loud mouth and loves the sound of her own voice

[@JBurnz001]

Math doing his best to keep the door open for Drake to come do an interview 😂😂😂😂. He defending that Milly Bobby Brown shit hard af

[@gagekeeling6216]

I'm not even sure they listened to the tracks... Math looking sus to me why you defending talking to a 13 year old bruh

[@MrSfisher964]

Its the fact that grown men refuse to believe what they see and what people show them Kendrick has always shown who he was and always stood on who and what he believed no matter what people in the industry or the public had to say. So why would he all of a sudden throw his integrity out the window to win a rap beef we have seen for yrs that Drake has had inappropriate relationships with underage girls and y'all trying to turn this back on Kendrick.

[@billpeart4809]

There’s no proof

[@Peacekeepa317]

There's no way around the fact that if all the stuff you say is "evidence" is in the public sphere, he would have BEEN locked up.

[@MrSfisher964]

Are you serious? How long did the Diddy allegations and evidence float around before action was taken? How long did the R Kelly allegations and in our face proof go around before action was taken? How long did the Epstein and Weinstein allegations and proof float around until actions were taken? How long did the Jay Z and Foxy brown allegations and proof when she was 15 of them sleeping together? Please I can go on forever this has always been apart of the industry since I was a teenager and you know why nobody ever speaks up because when they did every single one of them died mysteriously. We in a time now where all parts of the industry is being exposed. That he would have been locked up line is the goofiest shit I ever heard, is Diddy locked up? Are u proud of your ability to remain ignorant or are you choosing to remain ignorant?

[@Peacekeepa317]

@@MrSfisher964 All of that shit is speculation. None of those other situations have shit to do with 53 missing seconds on a security camera. You're mentally ill. You can't separate online bullshit from reality and it's sad. And again...either way....what the fuck are you going to do about it? If you feel that strongly then keep calling and emailing law enforcement back to back and tell them all this shit. What the fuck are you and the comment section going to do if all that is true?

[@Peacekeepa317]

@@MrSfisher964 Also everyone you mentioned that got locked up had actual victims pressing charges. Not s bunch of idiot ass conspiracy theories with a 6th grade reading level

[@redmorrison7502]

Great Debate

[@majorant102]

Salute my brother 🙏🏾 💯