Debate: The Testimony of God, His angels, and the Owners of Knowledge (3:18) pt.1

A debate with a Kuwaiti man who argues on the basis of Sunni Islam. Topics such as the Shahadah, Hadiths, Translation, Hikma, and others were discussed. Join the server to spectate or join in on the debates!
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[@QuranOnlyStudies]

You guys bamboozled him with the one two combo. Bravo. Praise ago. How hard is it to say, there's no god but God...

[@Rya_B]

Imagine calling someone a polytheist because they want to worship God alone without anyone mentioned with Him. The cognitive dissonance 🤣

[@homer1273]

36:00 Saying sahadaa is not calling on prophet. Sahadaa is testifying before Allah that Muhammed is the messenger of Allah

[@homer1273]

34:00 You don't become mushrik by just listening to someone else

[@hossamali9016]

So many wrong claims from hadith rejectors, can I join ?

[@HadithCritic]

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[@Mfvpill]

Brother I have question plz help me out , I'm referring to the polytiest one 😂 plz help me . May Allah guide us

[@homer1273]

Although i agree with some things that hadith critics say he is mistakingly confusing sahadaa with dua. You dont do dua to prophet Muhammed, but as muslim you do sahadaa that prophet is the messenger of Allah.

[@Rya_B]

Why do you do that though? Is this what God said to do?

[@homer1273]

@@Rya_B sahada is normal in any society especially in Arab tribal society where you declare your allegiance openly

[@Rya_B]

@@homer1273you didn’t answer the question though. Did God tell you to say the the shahada this way? Just because it’s the normal thing to do in your community, this does not mean it’s correct. God says in the Quran to not just go by what is tradition or what our forefathers did.

[@homer1273]

@@Rya_B Allah doesn't need to tell prople what is abvious. nor does Allah forbid what is the truth. that prophet Muhammed is the messenger of Allah. It is normal human behavior to make clear and testify where you stand on your political and religious position. Saying 'Allah is the only God' is not enough, because there were others who believed in the same one God with the same name. A Muslim testifies that he believes prophet Muhamed is the messenger to make it clear that he is not like these other people of other religions

[@homer1273]

@@Rya_B how would someone in time of prophet testify that he became a Muslim if he is not allowed to testify that he follows prophet Muhammed? How would you make clear that you became Muslim if you are not allowed to testify which prophet you are following. Are you going to do it by saying what you're not? Like saying: "I am not a chrstian who believes in the trinity, I am not a j who rejects all prophets after Moses, I am not mushrik who believes in Allah but also other gods, I am not ......"

[@EJ-ck8py]

Hilarious 😂

[@BM8C7]

9:28 hilarious

[@Dr.SohailA.K]

Answer to this debate is 4:136. We worship Allah alone we don't associate with anyone. To understand Toheed first we have faith/believe in Mohammad s.a. Al isra 105. Gabriel then quran. If don't believe Mohammad s.a is true, how we can believe Allah and Quran you brothers are new muslims it will take time to understand.

[@Chaturanger]

If there were undeniable and sufficient proof of the existence of God, the scientific world would be in turmoil. All the major scientific journals, all the university faculties would fight to receive the genius behind the demonstration. All the talk-shows, the television news around the world, all the magazines on the planet would offer millions $ to the lucky person to have exclusive access to the story of his discovery. But nothing happens.

[@HadithCritic]

You might change your mind after watching the code 19 doc: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoW4inyrrdB0o7M

[@Chaturanger]

@@HadithCritic I watched the video. It's like a sermon. Everyone has proof of the existence of gods and yet no one has ever won any prize in the world, not even the Nobel Prize. So, until you can demonstrate that magic exists, then the magical Jesus you believe in is mythology.

[@earth2beautiful481]

Your point assumes that the world would agree. Does truth need validation of the whole world to be true? Take Global warming as an example, this has proof yet the whole world is not in agreement.

[@homer1273]

That's like asking for proof for multiverse. How can you prove things that exists outside of the universe. Which science instrument will you use to probe outside the universe