Debate With Dale Calvert

[@JayMaverick]

Marvel toy manufacturers be like "Oh before sending these out to Amazon, remember to call ... *Dave* "

[@bonerman99]

Hasbro: lol, Dave who?

[@cmoss11467]

And the Hunt brothers thought they could corner the silver market

[@ollyrhys1989]

If Marco says “ok, got it” that’s means he has everything he needs to slam dunk you.

[@corrosivesprings9526]

I love just watching his face during these debates lol. You can tell when he gets a check mate

[@mrunlimited3]

I really feel sorry for Dale. Something is off. How can you go from “retiring” to schlepping business cards at baseball games enticing people with $50 discounts. Really? That’s your business plan? Every time I hear a MLM’er tell me they’re retired, I take that with a huge grain of salt because their definition of “retirement” is different than mine. If I was retired, I’d be sitting in the luxury box lounge enjoying the game and the fellowship of my friends/family, not cold-call prospecting strangers at baseball games. 😮😮😢😢 Super Sad for Dale.

[@lmusima3275]

Yeah there’s something strange about this guy. I’m assuming he hadn’t been honest with the tax man which is why he’s returning to this illegal pyramid “business.” Look at his face, he’s 😞 you see how he’s being dismantled, falling apart at Marco’s questions.

[@thewolf2153]

He’s not schlepping to people. He has morons that are doing that for him.

[@cmoss11467]

It was actually worse… $5 discounts

[@Manny1996]

Retirement is different for everyone. I have a stepdad that is retired but likes to work on different business and stuff.

[@ryanvalencia8008]

I’m an avid sports cards collector and there are significant flaws with selling this way 😂

[@ryanvalencia8008]

I’ll just stick to buying and selling at local shows (free/low cost of entry), ebay (sales tax/fees),Twitter/Facebook groups, and paid discord services (community). The fallacy is that he’s bought and everything has or will gone/go up. It doesn’t work that way. I looked and he has one football card. Specifically in sports cards, big corporations (Fanatics) are already monopolizing/consolidating the industry. Also, I think he means Funko Pop and not shopkins 😂

[@laikalime7109]

I listened to this while I was working. I have to say Dale really tested my patience.... I was getting so frustrated at him avoiding and going back in circles and repeating this damn 450 billion dollar. Marco seriously you did such an amazing job staying professional with this interview. Massive props to you !

[@DaleHardiman]

Every network marketer that Marco debates does the same thing because they know he’s caught them out!

[@macioluko9484]

It’s like a bad Dragons Den pitch

[@JayMaverick]

55:00 Please Marco, don't be so tough on him. You have these "anti-MLM" glasses on where you see reality as reality and you're talking about facts, it's really hurting his narrative of lies and bs.

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

That's when he goes RED too 🤣🤣🤣

[@michaelwagner8859]

Dale appears very excited that "this has never been done before" and that, instead of consumables, his company sells collectables. But there's a big reason MLM companies have stuck to consumables and why almost all the billion dollar MLM companies sell consumables - it's what works inside the MLM model. Mind you, I'm not defending MLM, but for decades, companies and MLM leaders across the industry have stressed why consumables make companies successful. Getting distributors and customers on auto-ship for a monthly supply of vitamins or shampoo or whatever means ongoing residual sales. Finding customers who buy a collectable every now and then is a very poor way of establishing an ongoing income, and a great way to go crazy racing around day and night trying to find new customers...So, even if you believed in MLM, Collect Direct would be a dubious choice.

[@sunny74763]

The Dave dude he's talking about that has a warehouse full of collector's items was the owner of Valentus, a coffee/drinks MLM. Real question is, if he has such a valuable collection, why would he not just setup a simple e-commerce website and do some easy marketing to sell the collectibles? Why does the MLM structure even exist if the collectibles are so valuable?

[@Quantum3691]

This is similar to the gold and silver coins mlms which went through a ton of hype then died down when folks jumped to other "shiny objects" mlms.

[@fiveonesheri]

Marco I want a t-shirt that says "mumbo jumbo flimflam nonsense"

[@suzinaccache]

OMG YES!

[@SharayaMW]

😂😂😂 I would also make that purchase and wear it proudly.

[@BaddogSports]

I would LOVE to debate Dale on the sports card market 😂

[@connorbanshee4415]

The man, the myth, the legend….. “Dave”

[@erinfindsen4953]

37:07 he’s killing me “I’ll tell you a legit company but first let me tell you about how to make money on collectibles “

[@BaddogSports]

So somehow I had one of Dale’s newer videos recommended to me (like 3 comments on them, with one of them being mine) He has ZERO clue about the sports card market. He’s so uneducated and gives terrible advice on collecting. As I’m replaying this stream, I am reading the live comments and I am dying 😂😂😂😂. I love when you debate people bro!

[@Joe-ij7nw]

Year 2045: Dave is half-man, half plastic toy. He sits in a leather chair overlooking his endless warehouse. Semi trucks and train cars are coming and going. Dave spins around in his chair and punches a monitor. He screams, proclaiming "Marco, with my MLM scheme, I will own the collector industry. Then...THE WORLD! You can't stop me, Marco!"

[@suzinaccache]

OMG THIS IS THE BEST COMMENT EVER

[@JayMaverick]

The retail industry speaks of Dave in whispers, most considering him an urban legend, a ghost in the machine, somehow creating infinite wealth out of... baseball cards.

[@lmusima3275]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Bobbbybags]

So glad you called him out for the fake comments 😂

[@UpsetOctopus]

You can't even shop in their website without "Joining their team". This is not a legit business.

[@knnknn2843]

“What if Dave got hit by a bus” “That is a concern yes” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 amazing question lmaoooooooo

[@mrunlimited3]

Hey Marco, Love the channel and your brilliant mind and approach in unraveling the complexity of the motives, mechanisms, means and mindsets required to entrap people into these MLM pyramid schemes. On another note, Are you familiar with the Watts family murders and the connection to LeVel MLM? It would make an intriguing show. You could create a ton of engagement because even though Chris Watts murdered his entire family a few years ago - the case and his motive and the role Level played in the toxic family dynamic still intrigues a lot people. Keep up the good work. Cheers,

[@michaelmenzen23]

Him disengaging and touching his face and trying to stay engaged or look engaged has me laughing

[@mrunlimited3]

Classic body language of someone who knows they’ve been had

[@michelleculberson-yourjour5756]

Interesting thing, on the website you cannot shop as a customer unless you join team. Dave Joran's last business, Valentus was the same when I was with it. There was no difference between customers and reps... if you wanted to purchase a product package you had to sign up as a rep

[@AcMrPro]

I got a couple takeaways about this legitimate MLM from this video. First of all it's super interesting they decided to go with collectibles as a product, which is literally the most useful product for money laundering since the value could literally be anything and you can make a legitimate looking margin on it lol. They're starting with $2.5bn from some guy's personal collection? So this guy is likely top 50 richest people on earth considering he spent $2.5bn on a collection (which would make it one of the highest value "collections" in the world)? Sounds more likely to me, referring to the first point, they're heavily inflating the price of the collectibles to make a massive margin on it. This guy named beanie babies, really? Those are barely collecting and rarely for good value. People in the 90s bought the shit out of them hoping they would become collectible, only for the market to crash because no one wanted to collect them. Perfect product to inflate value out of. Good luck selling $100 a month (or whatever the requirement to keep your rank is) of collectibles to retail customers. These items are likely going to be overpriced, besides he is underplaying how hard it is to connect a specific willing buyer with a specific, rare, niche item for that value. To keep your rank it seems it will be far easier to purchase these items yourself in the hope to resell them, or perhaps recruit people to buy those items from you or instead of you. EDIT also I challenge anyone that supports this MLM to show me articles older than 2 years showing a. How Dave Jordan made the money that allows him to own a $2.5bn collection and b. Dave Jordan being recorded as a major player in collecting, either as a buyer or a seller of a noteworthy item, or the owner of a noteworthy collection.

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

That's what I said.... If you have 2.5b laying around for COLLECTIBLES, how much money do you have????

[@timstort8223]

So what happens when the products this guy has in Sioux Falls warehouses runs out? Company done…

[@sd_Raider4Life]

I love how you held dudes hand during the conversation, before throwing him off the cliff 😂. Another great video Marco!

[@Treytinoxo]

NOW THAT WAS AN INTELLIGENT QUESTION

[@michaelmenzen23]

Marco slower speech when talking to the elderly 😂😂😂

[@bastymanguy]

So I’ve noticed what Marco was saying at the start of the interview about those ‘bot names’ leaving similar comments. Recently I’ve seen youtube comments from people with the four numbers after their name and it looked odd. Low and behold my name had 4 digits added on to it and I was like: wow wtf. Other people had the same thing, so they not all bots

[@robertfrench6719]

They did that to me so I think Marco needs to consider this

[@dearley874]

Your GoonCon anniversary 8/21 is my birthday. ❤🎉 By the way, you conducted yourself so professionally and held it together in the face of the non sensical word merry go round you endured with Dale

[@barklet]

Marco was so polite, more than Dale deserved really

[@Guy_Incognito1]

If the business is legitimate, what's the point of implementing the MLM structure? Why doesn't this guy that owns all of these collectibles simply sell them via a website and market via Google? I would strongly push back on Dale's claim that word of mouth is the best advertising known to man. That may have been true for a particular time period, but in our current generation, digital marketing is much more effective. Being on that first page of a Google search is absolutely imperative.

[@BradenMeyer0]

Wow... marco cant be stopped good work marco this one was crazy

[@paultindall1235]

55:00 idk if I’d completely dismiss d2d as a method that is unsuccessful that no one uses. Pest control, home alarms, and especially solar are HUGELY successful using door-to-door, and many of their reps make insane amounts of money solely through their direct sales to retail consumers. It is insanely difficult yes but also insanely profitable if you’re willing to do it. I’ve seen this first hand myself and with people I know

[@paultindall1235]

In fact I think many door-to-door companies exemplify the scenario your looking for of a legitimate mlm/direct selling company.

[@SharayaMW]

I'm not saying home alarm systems or solar panel sales are scams, but. . . I haven't heard the best feedback from purchasers of either. Most people use something like Ring camera, because it makes more sense. Solar panels are still kind of rare, but I wonder of they'll go the way of satellite dishes for cable TV. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Bobbbybags]

Hey tell that collect direct guy that I got a whole garage full of collectible lularoe leggings if he wants to make an offer

[@SpooksMcGhie]

This man is ADDICTED to MLM

[@michaelmenzen23]

3 months later and no power rangers on that website

[@Sswervyy]

MY TOP MOMENTS OF THE STREAM!!! 35:29 "theres no BV requirements, none of that" his company does have that so thats his first lie, 47:33 marco reads something from collect directs website and dale says thats not true, it is on the website right now so thats lie #2. 56:42 dale says that what hes reading and hearing is based off marcos preconceptions of MLM when it is literally on the website itself. 57:51 marco points out that the company has to be paid monthly to boost there PV (thats called autoship) dale just tries to deflect it by saying "but the word autoship isnt on the website" then says that its not even an option to autoship which is also lie #3. 1:00:18 dale rolls his eyes when all marco is doing is just reading the website. 1:20:42 marco points out that the entire company relies on 1 guy lmao. 1:21:47 marco repeats exactly what dale just said and dale completely denies saying that dave will have the item and not amazon. dale admits that dave gets the collectables from manufactures when earlier dale was saying that there are no manufactures and that collectables arent manufactured. 1:31:00 dale tries accusing marco of deleting comments to try to shift the topic onto him. and the entire time in the chat, some dude named "hereisphil!" kept arguing with everyone defending MLM and claiming that they are a buisness owner while working for someone else lol, then leaves being passive aggressive.

[@macioluko9484]

So what’s the guy’s storage fees? What if Dave Jordan gets hit by a baseball? What about a warehouse fire? If all is lost then what? There are very simple collectible sites with no distributors.

[@MiikaWasHere]

Marco, if you are talking about the 4 digits after KZbin handle, it's something that KZbin automatically added at one point as you might already know. I've noticed that not a lot of users have removed those, many don't know how to even do it and older users might not be even aware and or capable of doing anyhting with it.

[@erinfindsen4953]

Raises my hand 😂

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

I like that Dale cut into the elevator music accidentally.... It characterizes the disorganized jumble that is this "Collectibles MLM"....

[@kiriose]

Every MLM scammer "I despise the MLM industry, everything is scammy... Except for my company."

[@getTheSchmack]

LOL there’s an actual pyramid illustration on the website.. the devil is in the details.. pun very much intended 😅

[@josep9599]

KZbin recent changed the way usernames are displayed for comments, so a lot of people now have 4 numbers after their name like me.

[@knnknn2843]

“Dave could have it, Walmart could have it” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hangup8629]

i wouldnt be surprised that some (probably most) of those were actually bot comments, but the 4 digits were automatically given by youtube after the change to @ usernames to those that didn't bother to change to a unique username, myself included

[@amelia4480]

"Why would you do any of this" ".... why would you NOT?" 💀💀💀💀💀

[@prudencegumdrop9557]

What a good dude, he made 10 million at 35 & he's still trying to scan people. If i made 10million by 35 selling trash i def would be spending 2 hrs arguing with someone whos young enough to be my kid

[@paulgonzalezcooks]

This guy scammed the scammers which makes him a national hero actually.

[@Pancakegr8]

Even from just a retail perspective, why on Earth would you want to help other people sell the same product as you? Creating your own competition doesn't sound like good business.

[@KC-kp4vh]

Maybe Dave knows the best deals for prostitutes. I can’t find them at Walmart.

[@calloganvoyaterre]

It's not WHERE the money goes, it's HOW the money FLOWS.

[@coachingkusi]

Watching this on my commute and i cackled when you said ‘it’s foolproof!’

[@jonathaneleser8071]

It sounds like the guy started the network marketing company because he wanted to get all of his money back on his warehouse of “collectibles”

[@mrunlimited3]

100% what it is. Dave has twice started and failed at the collectible business. He’s looking to move his inventory to and through distributors

[@OldManNutcakez]

Exactly what I was thinking and almost from the start. Dave is just a hoarder.

[@Spicypoptart1]

@@OldManNutcakezbingo! When he started talking about the products, I was thinking where are they getting all of these collectables from?? Answer; Daves hoarded warehouses in N Carolina 😂😂 next level stupid grift….

[@OldManNutcakez]

@@Spicypoptart1 It's pretty common in the collecting industry where these dealers become hoarders while pretending to be some mastermind businessmen. This guy Dave is supposed to be mr millionaire or bazillionaire from flipping collectibles, yeah whatever. If that had any truth to it, he would have an established ecommerce and physical platform. But noone knows who this guy is.

[@Fst105]

Collect direct went under lmao

[@pyramid_scheme_termination3655]

What happen to ebay or amazon to sell collectibles?

[@JoelHathaway-vf5rz]

It's amazing to hear a scammer believe his own reasons for being a scammer

[@SPQR101010]

Dale renounced Collect Direct and deleted all the youtube videos.

[@AlwaysMarco]

Hahahaha 🤣

[@hamhi98]

The size of the industry is completely irrelevant to the conversation. Every time an entrepreneur on shark tank brings up the market potential they get roasted because it has nothing to do with their companies actual sales

[@michelleculberson-yourjour5756]

The company website has a "Canadian" option which is interesting because I don’t believe they are legally approved to operate in Canada, which is how the owner ran his past company as well.

[@DumbDesign]

MLMs with consumables shit on MLMs with non-consumables because the products don't need replacing. MLMs with non-consumables shit on MLMs with lotions and potions because people have brand loyalty and they are selling lotions and potions. Now we have MLMs with collectibles shitting on MLMs with consumables. When are they gonna realize that it's not about the product, it's about the business model?

[@robertfrench6719]

I’m trying to shop on the site and I’m seeing isa as the go to grading company which is basically a bogus grading company with no respect in the industry. While some stuff is near market value I’m also seeing some insane markups. Also, I just noticed KZbin put 4 numbers after my name which I never entered so maybe that could be something to consider for the argument at the beginning. Not sure

[@JohnCutter317]

Wish he just stuck to hiw he lied and denied stuff from that's on the website absolutely insane

[@keithdosik]

3:18 is the start

[@CMGSportsCardInvestments]

What "stuff"

[@keithdosik]

@@CMGSportsCardInvestments what

[@professorzoom7800]

@@keithdosik 😂😂😂😂

[@sunny74763]

@@CMGSportsCardInvestmentsDale burner account?

[@Adam-mj5hl]

Marco, I was super impressed when you just so casually popped Dale’s collectibles business model bubble by pointing out his business would be unsustainable after it sold off all its valuable collectible items in its first few years of operation. Do you have a business degree? If not, I really think you’d be at the top of your class at any MBA program.

[@TheSteveLynx]

not every collectible gains value, the undesirables are the cheapest, but they will not start being desirable, especially if you got truckloads of them 'Dave' would have bought Beanie Babies shortly before the bubble burst!

[@mrunlimited3]

Yep, the key word here is “Value”. All value is lost when the market is flooded with supply (basic Econ 101 of supply and demand). This is exactly why this type of business hasn’t been tried under the umbrella of MLM before.

[@DorkSideObamna]

I genuinely thought the name was Collect The Rekt.

[@skeptik-ci5xo]

Unless he has a crystal ball, Dave, or Dale, or whoever, is taking a huge risk by purchasing a bunch of trendy merchandise and assuming that it will appreciate in value and there will even be a collectibles market for said merchandise at some future point in time. In all likelihood, it will be rendered worthless garbage. Very few things are collectible anymore. We live in a culture of consumption and disposal. Planned obsolescence. It's all about novelty and the fleeting dopamine reward of an impulse buy. There is no value in the product itself; there is always a shiny new object right around the corner to buy today and throw out tomorrow. And it's all happening on Amazon, not some antiquated website. The current generation now spends millions of dollars on intangibles like NFT's for god's sake! Even if we were to humor Dale by pretending to believe that he is not a scammer perpetrating a pyramid scheme, his "business model" is short-sighted. He is nostalgic for a bygone era. He is a dinosaur. Maybe they could manufacture Dale the Dinosaur action figures and create a new MLM scheme to sell them! I kinda feel bad for him. Also pretty sure Dave doesn't exist.

[@knnknn2843]

Marco, you don’t have to take my advice but.. I would advise answering these MLM peoples questions with questions only. So they could hear themselves think.. otherwise they just guna manipulate your questions “I never said that” .. “that’s your perspective” and all that .. oh man🤣

[@josep9599]

Where is the “you’re broke, you’re fucking poor” soundbit from? 😂

[@BaddogSports]

I think it’s Andrew Tate

[@Okayiguess90]

Dave's gonna buy a sports team and turn it into an MLM

[@suzinaccache]

AMAZING video Marco! ❤

[@BaddogSports]

I hate spamming this video, but there is NO GUARANTEE collectibles would ever appreciate! Many depreciate over time! There’s no guarantee anyone would want Shopkins (don’t know if I spelled that right) in 5 years and they may be completely worthless! Then what?

[@Niles727]

Collectors go to shops and look for the pieces. They want that as part of the fun, nobody needs this fucking guy to help them.

[@Niles727]

@@imsotired9555 100% agree we don’t need this guy ruining the experience

[@defi_ramsay]

lmfao !!! beenie babies took me out 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@annamariefella8315]

Replay crew! Commenting for the algorithm!!!!

[@getTheSchmack]

Lil Uzi Calvert.. this dudes deceptive. Great job, Marco! Keep up the Lords Work

[@ntt1713]

How often do you think Dale has to re-glue his toupee?

[@ntt1713]

When Dale lies, you can see it in his eyes and body language

[@Michelleigram]

Well that was all as clear as mud. I'm sure it will be a big success. Dale is talking about collectibles, then antiques, then memorabilia.... What do any of those terms mean anyway and what guarantee of value is there? Is he another brainwashed victim? He didn't even seem sure of what was talking about. He was clearly grasping at straws just before he says to Marco, "You're grasping at straws". ???? This did not appear to be one bit different than every other MLM. The only difference is that the product sounds even sketchier and more obscure than most.

[@knnknn2843]

“Dave is just a walkin’ talkin’ encyclopedia when it comes to collectables” 😭😭😭

[@maceyleathamdietitian4696]

Wait this isn’t even a new idea, isn’t there a coin collecting mlm? Infinity coin? I think

[@Myaccounttt]

When Marco said “that’s completely ridiculous Dale” after pointing out the fact that the whole business is dependent on 1 guy buying truckloads of stuff🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thesaurusrex7919]

Idk why these people agree to come on the show with Marco. They clearly had no idea the how good of a talker Marco is

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

The thing is, you don't even have to be a super good talker.... MLM is such a bad idea....

[@thesaurusrex7919]

@@benjaminaristotleboes3157 true, but the way Marco gets his point(s) across is just so smooth

[@LA_FOCUS]

It's very obvious that this guy doesn't know anything about the collectibles market. I sell collectibles for a living and the market has dropped by 10x in the last year. The only reason it was at $450 billion is because of the covid shut down and the extra money everyone was getting during that time. I guarantee you that the market isn't anywhere near that value in August of 2023 and it's dropping everyday. People do NOT have the extra money to buy pointless things like they did 2+ years ago. The guy who started Collect Direct has a bunch of junk that he can't sell so he started this MLM to hopefully get rid of it all. 😂

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

FIRST! Replay goons unite!!!!

[@AcMrPro]

Here to get mooched

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

MOOCHA GOON! 🤣

[@Bobbbybags]

I’m here with ya!

[@ktj6796]

👊

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

We gotta mark the time when he turns from kinda red, to the fucking KOOL AID MAN ....

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

56:00

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

RED AF

[@jonathansanders8268]

1:07:31 … aaaaaand…got him. Marco shut him down with such a simple question. 🎤 dropped!!

[@SnapBackCollector211]

Anything tied to a comp plan sounds BS!!

[@LoyalServant77]

these debates bother me so much because these mlm people are so lost in DeluLu Land that they the answers for everything, so they think. They're right because they think they're right its so twisted. and hes from the south ... so am i .... when he says "DUDE" to Marco its total disrespect its like calling him an idiot.

[@Hopeynay]

This elusive “Dave.”

[@mrunlimited3]

Not elusive. David is MLM’er, having already failed at another MLM and two other collectible businesses. Poor Dale is so blind and brainwashed, he didn’t even think to do basic DD

[@michaelmilnermixing]

The first 10 minutes is crazy lol

[@timstort8223]

36 minutes….”this one’s different”… hahaha

[@Theraldave]

That dude literally said it's $10 one-time fee, and then in the next breath he said $10 once a year this man is a lying machine. Then when you asked him a direct question about naming some legitimate MLM businesses, he goes on some crazy tirade about how everyone makes $100,000 and he's going to be the next million dollar or two, just hoping that you forget what the question was

[@AbasinBaray]

This guy shakin his head and laughing at arguments that are perfectly reasonable and make perfect sense makes my blood boil. Btw, riddle me this, how come everyone has heard of Amazon, Jeff Bezos and so on but nobodys ever heard of Dave? Its cause hes a nobody, a John Smith.

[@timstort8223]

Clearly this guy has made money in MLM’s and believes it can work, so be it. Doesn’t mean I or anyone I know would ever come close to these things with a million foot pole, dude seems like a decent enough guy tbh

[@ParuhdoxLive]

53:00 is when he absolutely got him and revealed it’s a pyramid scheme. They’re all the same.

[@WalterTurnerBBB]

Collect Direct needs spray technology. It's more effective than penny sleeves for your baseball cards

[@AlwaysMarco]

Hahahahaha

[@falseclyde]

1:07:40 “Why would you not” lmao cmon dale at least try to have a conversation

[@Bobbbybags]

5:44 “70% of my industry is a scam” I think it’s closer to 100% but okay buddy!

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

Maybe more!!!

[@sunny74763]

Lol it's funny that they claim this, nobody working for a legit industry would claim it's a scam

[@erinfindsen4953]

47:27 So this whole business is dependent on Dave’s Deals. And it’s three weeks old. Sure, it’ll be here in a year.

[@significantstrike-nd8cs]

Can someone generate like some a.i. art of what Dave could look like? I just imagine him in an enormous warehouse, like a castle and him sitting on a throne made of beanie babies, wearing a mint condition burger king crown decorated with vintage baseball cards, wrist adorned with collectable watches and an autographed baseball bat as a staff as he raises it to the sky and yells to Dale “release the collectables!”

[@paulgonzalezcooks]

All mlms are scams except mine.