Managing forces, the #1 fundamental

[@scottmorrison7177]

Deb, I love how you get to the core of the issue! No BS, no extraneous fluff, just the physics of it. Yet, you are able to translate those physics into understandable, applicable, actions. Keep up the great work!!!

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Thank you

[@richardbateman-y1x]

Best informational / instructional videos on the web. Like a good coach at anything - don’t over complicated it. Brilliant vid

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Thanks! Spread the word😉

[@brendacurrie358]

Brilliant video Deb- force mgmt : gravity - physics - camber - sidecut 💥💥💥🚀

[@williamfox1146]

Pressure is so easy to use yet improved my skiing more than anything else. Your ski lesson videos are great.

[@jeremywatt3800]

Great opening about bold statements :) “Sweeping generalizations make for the best conversations”

[@katherinehayesrodriguez9683]

One of your better technical videos.

[@zbqb84a]

Love the ongoing conversation on this Deb. In the context of "managing forces", I'll also toss out the importance of ski stiffness as another factor along side camber and sidecut that impacts the forces we're dealing with. The strong rebound of coming out of a deep carve on a stiffer ski (the few times my weak old legs can actually do it) can be thrilling when I'm not caught completely off guard by the power of it.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Yes construction materials and stiffness are definitely part of the equation. Thanks for the comment

[@shaka2012]

What a great video, as usual Deb, thanks a lot, indeed, for giving up this great thiking and debating of the ski forces, appreciated 🙏🏽

[@bridgetbarnhart9272]

Well considered, in-depth discussion on the nuance of the effects of shaped skis, camber, gravity and pressure! This turned me into a ski dork (I’ve never been one to get sucked into the tech side but this may have changed me)

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Love it

[@johnparchman753]

I feel like my 50+ year old technique still works on today's modern ski equipment. I would not take a new skier on my technique journey, but I can still arc a pretty nice turn even using that power step in transition - setting the new edge. Ol' Dogs I guess.

[@victordemitrios8617]

Love your videos Deb. I do question the concept of the skis returning substantial energy when the edges are released. My understanding is that the skis will only generate a force of 10 to 15 pounds when they are unloaded. The large force that we feel and love when we unload our skis comes from our body’s loaded soft tissues, like our tendons and muscles. If you put your skis across two saw horses and bend them into a reverse camber and then unweight them you will notice that they don’t return to their original camber with high forces. Sprinters do not propel themselves with rapid muscle contraction. They propel themselves with loaded tendons (with the load derived from contracting muscles). I’ve been educating myself on this concept over the last few years. I previously believed the rebound of the ski was the primary force during the transition. Now I believe it is from our loaded tissues.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

I take it you have never been trampolined off the snow and hill by your skis? Like a bucking bronco, this happens. It never happened to my in the 80s, I was never able to generate that kind of rebound, but it has happened to me enough times in modern equipment to scare the s..t out of me😉

[@billystevens2911]

Would it be accurate to say that your average skier would lack the leg strength (because of the energy drain & fatigue truly loading a ski generates, effects the rest of the day, also to fully commitment to loading the Ski in fear of losing the edge? Then not being able to experience that true unloading of the Ski that powers you into the next movement?

[@MrDogonjon]

Gauged pressure manipulation is the only fundamental. All other descriptions of tasks, skill, force or action are defined by gauge pressure manipulation. edging, steering, turning, rotating are affects of pressure management/ gauged pressure manipulation. Inertial frames of reference acrobatics not included in gauge pressure, Special Relativity was made for that.

[@jimmartinson4280]

Very informative video.

[@lance31415]

Of course there's a difference - from what I see, today's ski doesn't have bindings.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

HA!!!!!! 💪💪

[@datukalex]

Who’s that badass at 2:10?

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Ha!!!!!!! 💪💪 You mean yours truly 😉

[@Nelson-l8k]

3:30 what you say here makes very little sense Deb. What about new designs vs old do you think affects the efficiency of a skier at the top of the turn? I can understand why you call out the compensatory techniques that were taught in the past, but stemming, unweighting, and hooked turns were never more efficient or effective.

[@franzalaska9512]

The older skis don't give you carve at the very tip or tail. The length of the carve is actually longer than vintage non shaped skis.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

What you wrote is confusing? What are you saying? That vintage skis don’t carve, don’t have sidecut? That is not so.

[@franzalaska9512]

@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Thanks for calling me out. What I'm attempting (unsuccessfully) to describe; I have more edge I can carve using a 181 or 184 modern shaped ski - a good skier has more edge carving into the snow than say...a vintage 207 or 210 Rossi SM or Acryglass. I keep several vintage pairs of race skis, and find that the sweet spots for carving are shorter than modern skis. It's like the top end and bottom ends aren't able to hold equally in edge pressure compared to the edge pressure you can drive underfoot .

[@franzalaska9512]

More edge=Longer edge

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

@@franzalaska9512 the technology differs in significant ways allowing for a completely different type of turn as I referred to in the video. However old and new skis have camber and side cut which means we are dealing with forces in both cases. The new skis are far superior that’s for sure😉

[@mrredithhall7115]

One of your best videos! Simply said, Forces 🎿

[@Nelson-l8k]

3:30 what you say here makes very little sense Deb. What about new designs vs old do you think affects the efficiency of a skier at the top of the turn? I can understand why you call out the compensatory techniques that were taught in the past, but stemming, unweighting, and hooked turns were never more efficient or effective.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

No, steamed turns, hooked turns, unweighting are not more efficient yiu are correct yet on the old equipment they were effective movements to get the job done. I don’t know how old you are and if you grew up skiing on the older equipment. If so would understand the movements necessary to make a short turn on a stiff 205 SL ski with very little side cut. Yes, the skis today allow for more efficiency of movement for a more complete carved arc. I hope this helps understanding and your question

[@williamwirsing5351]

If you get to see Stenmark ski GS from the early 80's the stem step or power wedges as we called them , are perfect examples of how the moves were used.