Debuff Tank Warlock counters everything : Dark and Darker

[@Kevin..1]

I love your off-meta builds in this game, it's always so entertaining to watch something fresh. Keep up the good work Kaz!

[@kazaren]

thank u ^^

[@JarPapa]

This build looks absolutely insane holyyyy 🔥

[@kazaren]

Insanely fun to play as well, satisfying to land them spell predations

[@dehzed]

It's nice to see Barbarians getting clapped for once

[@BirdyBirby]

Fr it's so annoying dealing with barbarians rn

[@TamasinoTV]

Finally the playstyle I’ve been trying for a long time is viable with curse of weakness buff

[@vreeziwastaken]

Excellent work chef, just what the meta needed 🔥

[@samuelrobb9383]

i respect the hell outta this build

[@yuideh1941]

My goat with another banger

[@Mwitch18]

Quick question btw for the cleric players. Why at 9:24 does kaz drop his teammates gear? Does it speed up Rez or something?

[@noone-uh2rs]

it does!

[@Mwitch18]

@ huh I never knew. This is why we watch kaz tho. Gotta learn the tech.

[@kazaren]

I dropped his gear in case the enemy can loot him while he's being revived, Ive looted an enemy in the past when the cleric was reviving through a door, I took his weapons and made him useless when the revive was completed, I basically saved my teammate from getting his stuff yoinked. Because most of the time bodies isn't rendered in the same position as for everyone else. So he might be in a good spot for me, But for the enemy the body is way closer to them. So they can actually reach it. Hope that explains it.

[@Mwitch18]

@ that makes a lot of sense aswell. Especially when you can hold with hydra I guess there’s no reason not to just quickly pick it up and drop it.

[@Mwitch18]

Watching this live was fun as shit ngl

[@Swamp_Donkey123]

Thank you for this

[@tombofthememelich2192]

It must be so much fun to take the buff out of buff-ball and then give it back as a 5-stack Dark Bolt! >:D It is going to be super interesting to watch how the meta develops around this build. Ranged characters may start focusing Warlock because their team cannot have buffs until the warlock is dead.

[@kazaren]

I already have teams on my server who recognize the build and don't even let me get in range to yoink the bard buffs. The bards who've been a victim of this has started to adapt a bit. That is if they even noticed their buffs was gone.

[@deckkitchen6620]

Twin I fw yo videos to hard😂💯

[@1nicesteak109]

this comp is gonna be crazy with the new druid healer comp

[@Cuqswe]

Amazing!

[@Royced5]

banger

[@orionizaqt]

Been playing the same build since seeing you last build but with Shadow Touch over Curse Mastery, and Hellfire over Curse Of Pain, and sometimes Longsword cuz.. I just love the Longsword lol. Honestly feels great and the main focus of the build is the same. Spell Pred if going against buff comps, BoC to disable heals and Curse of Weakness to really get the edge in fights, especially against Barbs that can build up insane stats. Really love it so far, definitely my favorite way to play Lock atm.

[@kazaren]

My favorite as well, Feels like I can fight anyone

[@npcragdolls]

Fireeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ❤‍🔥

[@draconicgaming6759]

You should make a build guide! This is so cool

[@kazaren]

Its on my channel you can find it there

[@_CELLO]

Wait why did you drop his gear at 9:10? Interested if there's a tech I don't know of.

[@peanut_1375]

They did it to probably make sure the body doesn't get stolen i think, de-sync can make the body fly and body physics is local so..

[@seagk1343]

Your duo sounds like elite500

[@kazaren]

That is elite

[@higheloguy9057]

Amazing build, the only bad thing is Curse Mastery, wasting a perk slot to give 3 seconds for Weakness. Also I hope you guys are aware weakness also steals 1/4 of buffs.

[@PuntTheDog]

you are the best teams player in the game.

[@ScoDucks]

What’s the Trance Dnb track at the end? Shit is fire!

[@Frayzo_]

how were you playing double lock in hr at 13:25 ?

[@kazaren]

Yes, Both queued alone into duos and ended in the same lobby

[@Dendell22]

What is your hp? You have so much the bar hardly moves when you cast dark bolt.

[@kazaren]

average per set 155-165

[@perryagent9093]

Is this class good in solos?

[@perryagent9093]

I mean build

[@NomadEliteDC]

'Anti buffball' plays buffball huh

[@hunnedk]

Build has some crazy potential. Kinda sad all matches are with a cleric, hard to gauge viability when a pocket cleric is present

[@kazaren]

I'll help you gauge it : Having a Warlock with this build present in your team means that the bard in the enemy team simply doesn't exist. Enemy healer Druid stops functioning, Cleric cant heal the frontliner because you got BoC, Enemy ranger cant DPS for free because you can shoot back, Wizards deal negative damage to you because you have near cap MDR, Barbarians melt from your weakness + BoC swings, Fighters die in 3 hits on average because they don't have MDR and what little they have you can reduce even further, And you disable their second wind with BoC, They run you just spam abilities until they fall over, There's nothing you cannot beat on this build when piloted with double digit IQ 🗿🗿🗿If you observed closer you'll notice that for more than half the clips my cleric isn't even healing, He's in there caving heads in with his mace.

[@hunnedk]

@kazaren legit in the first match you’re allowed to facetank a barb because you have a cleric healing you. Every other match if the cleric isn’t healing you, he’s healing whoever’s frontlining. A pre sanc before the fight and post sanc after the fight, so also free instant resets. Btw, not saying this build isn’t cool asf, just that buffball is strong not because of bard, but because of cleric. Lowkey show some non cleric games, should be cinema if it works out

[@kazaren]

@ It reads like a silly ass comment when you could take a moment and think how it would play without a cleric. I wouldn't position to tank a barb if I didn't have a cleric, I'm not *allowed* anything, I play to my comps strength. I swap how I position and how I play based on what my roster looks like. And Bards absolutely enables buff balls what do you mean, They handout free 30% action speed / cast speed. Barbs don't have to build a lot of action speed to mow people down because the bard covers that, They can just focus on building tank. Also Im pretty sure the second half of the video is just me mogging people with no healer, I kept that part of the video in to show that its a build that does fine on its own. Maybe didn't watch that far in to see that.

[@hunnedk]

@ Isn't it silly to imagine how an imaginary fight plays out to prove a build is strong? There are a lot of factors in a real game that there isn't in an imaginary one, I'm not sure why you even said that. I know what a Bard does, lol. But like I said, a buffball is strong because cleric is in it way more than bard being in it, and I feel if you ask top buffball players they'll agree. The second half of the video is duos, not trios, I did watch it

[@kazaren]

​@ Build crafting for me is rooted in imagining how each and every factor affects this build, What tools enemy classes can throw at me. Idk what you mean with there are a lot of factors in a imaginary fight that isn't in a real one, I can imagine all of them. I built all my loadouts on imaginary fights and made up scenarios. Sure I don't have the footage of me fighting teams without a cleric in my team, But it doesn't take much for me to imagine how id fair without one when all of my past warlock videos Ive uploaded was without a healer to back my build. I've got a few hours to my name.

[@mikahoolwerff3563]

bit of a info dump buuuut, new druid changes are kinda big, with the new perk it adds 2 healing to every tick on druid, at max magic healing and 100% buff duration (just for easy math,) natures touch heals for 71, restore 86 and if it applies to mending 240 and tree does 71 also. (cuz the amount of tick increase with buff duration the perk applies more times in total) i couldnt test due to server going down but i believe this also works on natural healing and MAYBE maybe also potions for druid himself, idk. but if it does then natural healing is 1hp per 3 seconds so 3hp per 3 seconds or 1 hp per scond. if u kit dump the frontline thats 7.1 hps for touch, 7.1 for tree, 7.16 for mending and 1hps for natural healing just above 22hp per second without dreamfire or mending rolling, for 20 seconds ish. u can add spirit bond to help out with the tanking too, and u do this all the while casting 10 spell memory treeents, roots, walls, or just dreamfire supports. i couldnt get deep into testing shit cuz of the post patch and feel free to check the math but this makes druid like really really solid as a pure support class.

[@snowywhistle2114]

You need to be careful with your wording here. It doesn't "add 2 healing to every tick", it restores an additional 2 hp to the target. This means it's a separate source of healing, and it doesn't scale with anything. It's still extremely strong though.

[@mikahoolwerff3563]

@@snowywhistle2114 well it restores an additional 2 hp to the target ye, but the target being anyone hit with the spell. and it does apply to every single tick of those spells. it doesnt scale sure, but more buff duration means more ticks means more times this perk applies.

[@snowywhistle2114]

@ I imagine that it would be insane amounts of heals. regardless of buff duration and tick rate, 8 hp per second (from two different healing spells) is a lot of hp. Also I haven't tested it yet, but if natural healing works then that's another 2 hp on top of your spells. And of course all of that is before the base healing on your spells and your magical healing that those spells scale with. Buff duration would just make someone immortal. I wonder if it stacks in a party. Assuming natural healing works that's + 6 healing all the time without even casting, with an extra + 6 from restore.

[@mikahoolwerff3563]

@snowywhistle2114 i already mentioned nat healing which is 1 hp per 3 seconds so it would be 3 hp per 3 so only 1hps. And 7 to 8 hp oer second is at plus 100 buff duration build on the kit.

[@Jake-px3ob]

Warlock counters druid so hard its a joke.....

[@michaelrubera5576]

Druid also counters warlock dog

[@Brotection_]

@@michaelrubera5576 Not with spell pred. Cleric is really the only Warlock counter in the support spectrum.

[@Jake-px3ob]

@@michaelrubera5576 your a noob then bro

[@Gausdave213]

Druid can outheal basically all dot dmg so idk ab that

[@Jake-px3ob]

@@Gausdave213 can't play half your shape shift forms against warlocks due to dot damage and insta death in rat or chicken