Debunking Angry Joe's Armored Core 6 Review

[@Sci-FiKai]

Holy shit 12k and +40 subs, you guys are insane. ❤️ I’d also like to address some criticisms in the comments here. 1. Someone made a good point about the tank tread double gattling build being in the tutorial mission, so Alex could’ve gotten the build from there. That’s 100% true and I forgot about that. 2. About my statement where I mention I think you have to beat the game 3 times in order to say you beat the game. If you disagree that’s perfectly fine. Personally because their are completely new missions in NG*+ and arena missions, as well as new parts in NG+, I feel this is justified. Normally with any other game, including other souls games I wouldn’t agree, but with AC in particular I think it’s a fair statement. I can’t think of any other game where you can not complete the main campaign missions or the side content and say you beat the game. AC is just unique in this way imo. 3. About Build balance. A lot of people are bringing up Zimmermans being to good and I can agree, I don’t think there’s no balance issues but I don’t think it’s as big of an issue as it’s made to be. Zimmermans are the only weapon I truly think needs a nerf, chainguns are strong but run out of ammo on longer missions and it’s impossible to S-rank most missions with them due to ammunition use. Thank you guys sm for the comments, subs and interacts. A ton of great comments. More AC content coming and have a good day. 🙏

[@jaxsgamesiguess9731]

4:01 & 4:50 cat

[@Sci-FiKai]

@@jaxsgamesiguess9731 I don’t know what he wants from me bro was quiet all day until I started recording 😭

[@gunzkiller101]

I would say a minor criticism to me is the number of set piece mission. What I mean is there isn’t a lot of mission like the strider where you fight a huge machine boss that you can fight on. I was really hoping for two at least in the game but we only got one. I don’t really count the PCA ships cause they just die in one shot. Like imagine a PCA mothership that as big as spirit of mother will and boss is the level. That what I was hoping for.

[@Sci-FiKai]

@@gunzkiller101 Those would be SICK MISSIONS hopefully if AC6 gets DLC we can get something like that

[@machination2166]

@@gunzkiller101 I personally would count the Ice Worm as a set piece mission.

[@echopraxia4552]

I was actually taken aback when he said there was no story in Armored Core 6. If a player comes away from the game thinking there was no story, then it just means they weren’t really paying attention. Fromsoft tells stories that make me think about them long after I’ve stopped playing. Not only are they really good, they’re genuinely thought provoking.

[@prncrx]

Not even just "not paying attention", dude had to have been actively ignoring everything but the gameplay. there's no possible way to say there's no story when, even ignoring data logs, every mission has a briefing explaining what's going on in the world, a fair few cutscenes, almost constant dialogue both during the missions and during pre- and post-mission screens, and literal story choice missions leading to 3 different endings.

[@bewe5473]

Dude AC 6 is my first fromsoft game and i looooove the story, it's kinda similar to ff7. There's no way a person playing AC 6 says there's no story in it unless they play while turning their brain off OR just watch gameplay on youtube.

[@NGMK]

I'm pretty sure, he thinks there are no characters, because he hasn't seen any faces... So "no story"

[@TheAzureGhost]

Reminds me of the take of a german review i watched , were they complained about constantly switching sides without impact of how those corps see you and almost no storytelling.... well they never made it past baldy and to be fair, prior to that there is not that much dialogue/infodump, especially if you don't pay attention to detail (as you're already overburdened with the task to stay alive) and are not searching for logs.

[@HansWurst-lg1ws]

Dude probably skipped every dialog and cut scene, hearing only his double Gatling gun during mission coms lmao. This game especially felt like a movie compared to Fromsofts usual mystery lore poking in the item descriptions. No storytelling is a blatant lie.

[@Ikcatcher]

This is what happens when you get people rushing through games just to make a review quota

[@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062]

Peak die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

[@artiomcucos1585]

I think this is why they need to shift to a slower review in select games not everything, just games that they actually play through and understand it. Personally quality over quantity especially on games that they are passionate for. Just IMO thats why I prefer someone like Bricky who reviews stuff he actually wants to review about…

[@Furydragonstormer]

Found the 'no story' thing as very much something that infuriated me upon hearing about it. I came for the mechs, I stayed for the characters and story

[@OKtheChannel]

I came for mech customisation, I left with an amazing mentor, best buddy and an electronic gf

[@Pokemonmovemaster]

I got the deluxe edition just so I could listen to the soundtrack a bit before heading in. Completely skipped over the Steel Haze (Rusted Pride) and thought it was a bit forgettable. Then I fought Rusty and now I can't get it out of my head. Not just the battle, but characters and the weight behind it all elevated that song from like a 5/10 to a 9/10. If a game's story can make a song 2x better, that's a good story.

[@OKtheChannel]

@@PokemonmovemasterYeah, i had the pleasure of not listening to the song before the battle. Not gonna lie, hearing thiose FreQuency vibes after all the dark, gritty sounds was a music to my ears, and it sent chills down my spine

[@valentinvas6454]

This game has one the most amount of story. Most of their earlier games only have lore except Sekiro

[@PeteLepley]

Really confused about previous entries receiving the same criticism as well - which ACs were people playing?? I played the shit out of 1st - 3rd gen and AC2:AA and Ninebreaker were the only console entries I could see this applying to _at all_. The others are RICH with story and excellent characters, it's just not spoon-fed to the player.

[@Damian_Koolray]

I'm not gona lie the second he said ac6 had no story kinda made me a bit miffed for how much I hear that targeted towards FS games. AC6 is probably one of the most straightforward most traditionally told stories FS has done in a while (also counting sekiro) but all that told me is that Joe did not watch any cutscene unless it would have human characters, but even then how did he somehow miss all the dialogue in the middle of missions? There's so much of it and even character development in the MIDDLE of missions There's so much character OOZING out of every mission in ac6 that I find it hard to miss unless he just refused to pay attention or didnt even bother. And also you kinda nailed that FS fans hated their first playthrough least in my experience Hated dark souls 1 untill ornstein and smough whipped me into shape and taught me to "git gud" Only then did I start loving Souls

[@Sci-FiKai]

Exactly it was the same for me I struggled with DS1 but Bloodborne was the game that made me see the light now I love all of them But yeah I guess because the game doesn’t have a ton of cutscenes and maybe they thought the in-between mission dialogue was just filler? No clue what happened there I’m not gonna lie lol.

[@MaidenlessScrub]

My first FromSoft game was Elden Ring. Love it so much then returned to play the others, love them all. Yes, even DS2.

[@moonrabbit2334]

@@MaidenlessScrub Literally same

[@orangesoda4535]

How'd he miss the dialogue in the middle of missions? Gee, I dunno, might have something to do with...playing the game? I couldnt tell you half the things that were said in the missions because they keep talking in the middle of combat

[@darkjackl999]

​@@orangesoda4535honestly i'd say that's probably on you (the player) i have big issues with hearing comprehension so i use subtitles and make sure the voice volume is above sounds so that i don't miss it

[@The_Claymores]

I LOVE the level design in this game. Each AC6 mission felt unique, massive Strider assault, PCA warships ambush your mission, Coral explosion escape sequence, ambushing Vespers with Middle Flatwell, stealth mission, escort mission, navigating low visibility city, stop the hacking bots, hunt Honest Brute, etc. None were repeated, only a single escort mission, only one stealth. They made tons of different mission types and polished them to perfection, and then added fun branching options to some of them in New Game+.

[@Sci-FiKai]

Exactly and the fact that we have a mission select and many of the missions are 5-10 minutes long is so cool. It keeps the pace of the game high, has great variety and personally I’ve missed this mission structure. Nowadays almost every game has a hub area or open world. We can’t just have simple mission selects anymore like why used to so I vibe with AC’s mission structure and level design so heavy.

[@MagnumBarrage]

The mission that stuck out the most to me was the defend the spaceport mission. I fully expected to fight an onslaught of enemies, only to be met with an absolute unit.

[@abe7043]

Have they played new game ++?

[@SCCS-cq3gg]

Missions are decent but i wish they were a lot longer and more challenging. You have to try to fail a mission unless there's a tough boss at the end.

[@songyani3992]

AC6 is one of the few games that New game+ are fresh enough for me because of the variety of story

[@Orinslayer]

Angry Joe couldn't even be bothered to give it a full review, his channel has been in decline for years.

[@Sci-FiKai]

I enjoy his channel but I think he definitely should pull back on how many games he reviews and put more time and effort into the rapid fires. They don’t have to be angry reviews but they definitely should have more effort put into them

[@YuriSteiner04]

But Madden and NBA got full reviews smh same for Skill Up he did not gave it a review probably got scared lol

[@vagabond4576]

Your on the hate train bruh. Its still pulling high numbers.

[@Orinslayer]

@@vagabond4576 I'm not talking numbers, he used to cover a lot more games a lot sooner to release than now. Now some reviews will come out a full month after the game drops. His quality is also lacking in many aspects that used to be good.

[@puddel9079]

​@@Orinslayer In other words, the channel is stretched so thin that the quality of the show suffers.

[@Don-ds3dy]

"no story" Literally has three endings. In fact the story changes a little every time you play it

[@MidMan98]

They didn't play NG+

[@madgainz7871]

​@@Guyfield20XXyou don't even need the NG+ tonhave your feels chattered in the xylem missions

[@MalfosRanger]

@@madgainz7871”621… you made a friend.”

[@PyraEnjoyer]

I think joe got confused he meant to say forgettable story

[@manictiger]

@@PyraEnjoyer Which is not true. It starts off that way, but the gameplay loop is so fun and addicting, that you start tuning into what's going on. On NG+, I started paying much closer attention to phrases and things in the AC6 universe. By NG++, I was fully invested in what will come next. Fromsoft didn't disappoint, either. I was a little worried it'd be as weak as NG+, in terms of new content, but I had a combat log guide telling me that a lot of stuff was coming. And it did, and it was awesome. I loved the NG++ story. I hope they make a standalone expansion that shows us what comes next in the storyline.

[@chrisbird4913]

People also forget that Fromsoft are story tellers, these small scale missions where you roll over grunts are also there for thematic reasons, to show the power levels of factions and set up later themes and events.

[@OKtheChannel]

I love how someone can buy a game, where you pilot a huge, beastly warmachine, and complain about a few beginning missions meant to show how much of a huge, beastly warmachine you are. lol Isn't that kinda the point? to establish AC pilots as the elite of elites?

[@toledochristianmatthew9919]

​@@OKtheChannelthe very first contract your recieve in the first armored core game is to literally gun down poorly armed protesters. Like these games establish that you are not a good guy and there are so many themes that the games tell you.

[@theguylivinginyourwalls]

​@@toledochristianmatthew9919 Ravens don't need no hokey pokey "ideals". They need *money.*

[@alrighty323]

I totally agree with enemies being essentially speed bumps. It kind of just brings into that power fantasy of "You play as the boss" similar to AC4:FA and it's gameplay

[@protodevilin]

Exactly. This idea is basically put right up in your face when you get to the end of the early mission to destroy transport helicopters. You close in on the last group of enemies, and you can hear them cry, “We’re no match for an AC!” shitting themselves in terror. MT’s are huge armored battle machines, yet they crumble utterly against the power of your machine. The fact that Joe and Alex missed this very obvious design choice says all you need to know about their lack of effort.

[@kiki123456able]

This is also lore-accurate. Souls games tend to put players in a shoes of nobody (good hunter, ashen one, tarnished, etc) hence most enemies is difficult gameplay-wise. But in the armored core universe, a single pilot with their AC is enough to become a decisive factor in battle. Any attempts to fight one without overwhelming force or another AC is often considered stupid or suicidal, it's like the pilots and their titans in titanfall, but cranked to 11.

[@Priotech]

@@kiki123456able Just a handful of independent mercenaries literally determine the course of history in this game.

[@Cheesecannon25]

I also wish that normal enemies actually mattered You get a taste of that in the Jailbreak mission (pre machine gun buff), where you have a slow, shitty mech that takes forever to kill even the most basic enemies. It Requires you to take in the surroundings and consider your actions more carefully. Where normally, you just shoot a few times and fly over to the next area without a second thought

[@alrighty323]

@@Priotech that's every AC game

[@acidsugarz]

Can we also acknowledge how many reviewers aren't acknowledging the 2nd and/or 3rd ending? It's like they didn't fully beat the game, I get it's not something everyone notices but wow...

[@Sci-FiKai]

What bothers me is that he mentions there’s new arena content in NG+ but he doesn’t mention the fact that there’s multiple endings.

[@Guyfield20XX]

Exactly damn hack’s, either play what the game has to fully offer or don’t even bother reviewing it.

[@Redsword603]

Sadly, most reviewers like Angry Joe don't really seem to get that far in the game except the 1st playthrough. There's actually a lot more to this game once you reach NG+ and NG++. Either do a full review or don't bother.

[@jessicaberry5596]

I don't agree with this logic. You shouldn't have to play everything a game has to offer, but you do at least need to play enough. It's a balance.@@Guyfield20XX

[@OKtheChannel]

@@jessicaberry5596 If you are a person buying a game, no, you don't have to play all the game to decide if you like it. If you are a game reviewer, you should play the game to the extent that the game has been designed to be played. AC VI is obviously designed to be played 3 times. It's not Assassin's creed, the story takes only roughly 20 hours. Finishing it 3 times should absolutely be the standard for game reviewers

[@MySOAP12]

Michigan, rusty, walter, chatty, carla, ayre, allmind, iguasu. This game has excellent characters. Dumb dumb must have been playing on mute. I pitty him for missing out on the sewing club

[@r99azm80]

Kinda funny that you left out Snail. IKR, all our homies hate Snail, lol.

[@MattR8605]

I haven’t seen a salty bitch like Iguazu in a long time lmao.

[@jimboanimations4041]

Don't forget Brute, Pater, Snail and even folks like Nosaac or Swinburne. Even the least important AC pilots get a memorable character attached to them.

[@Ostsol]

AC6's mission structure gives it a fairly conventional mode of telling its story, in comparison to other FromSoft games.

[@Sci-FiKai]

100% the story is much less vague than any previous From game

[@nafereuskortex9055]

Yeah I didn't even need to look anything up to start speculating on my own

[@Radec_G]

everyone thinking AC6 has not story started to playing games after ps3/360 era, this is how a lot of games use to expose the narrative and its very straightforward like, u have eyes and ears and a brain?

[@PyraEnjoyer]

Yes i love the boring repetitive missions like go destroy that and go defend this so fun10/10 massapiece

[@Ostsol]

@@PyraEnjoyer You created a KZbin account just to say that?

[@KoongYe]

AJ show has been in decline for years now. They always do the bare minimum amount of research, talk with their chat constantly while playing the game. No wonder he thinks there's no story. He didn't even pay attention to any of it. AC6's plot progression is very subtle. You have to read between the lines and figure out the motive of different individuals and groups. AJ isn't a person who can do such things. He can't understand anything unless it is spoon-fed to him with characters with faces directly speaking out their intentions.

[@Amainville93]

The basic gist of it is pretty easily picked up if you’re paying attention though. But if you’re say there interacting with chat the whole time, you’ll probably miss a lot.

[@harrymillar4193]

Probably thinks that ‘no cutscenes’ means ‘no story’

[@Thousand00]

All attacks are telegraphed. It all boils down on how fast you and your ac is. Heck even the slowest ac can dodge attacks as long as you're quick witted

[@JeffHikari]

Not only are most attacks telegraphed, the game itself warns you of an attack telegraph with a marker and beeping. It even works in PVP! So many people miss that.

[@OKtheChannel]

I think it's more getting to know your machine. Your mech can do certain things, and it cannot do certain things. If you boost once, the next boost comes with a slight delay. If you built a chunky mech with a bigger delay, you have to get used to it. Most "unfair" attacks in AC VI are just people piloting the mechs wrong.

[@OKtheChannel]

@@bwhere45 Yeah, when looking online, you can even see people avoiding every rocket like it was nothing.

[@RenoKyrie]

>No Story >Has 3 Endings >No Build diversity >Even when Zimmerman, Songbird, Stun Needles and Gatling are the most overrated weapon right now Ransetsu Rf, Earshot, Trueno, and Etsujin fill the same niche as them but better efficiency or easier to learn

[@KABLAMMATS]

You have to be interested in the game, if not you're just gonna steam roll everything with meta build from youtube and skip every dialogue and breafing. Just like AJ

[@RenoKyrie]

​@@KABLAMMATSYeah Meta builds are rarely fun Sometimes even the meme build that is Napalm and Flamethrower can be utiilized and is more fun

[@mizublackriver7021]

All I gotta say is Boy I am sure am glad I stopped following him during my teens, I got sick and tired of all the screaming youtubers that all they could do was yelling, sometimes trying to look cool, and just yelling their bad opinions V: Good response.

[@Krystalmyth]

Only one who can get away with that for me is the Angry Video Game Nerd, because he's wholesome af, and an OG.

[@PyraEnjoyer]

Shit game had no story he was right

[@apophis7712]

@@PyraEnjoyer You didn't even play the game, taint licker

[@TheEmperorHyperion]

​@CrimsonhaZe_ shit reviewer and suckup had no taste. I'd rather hear LowTierGod's opinion on a Street Fighter game than the Mexican Video Game Journalist over there.

[@aceh5867]

@@PyraEnjoyer Nah

[@blockchainballer4542]

There are tons of invalid reviews out there on AC6. This has always been a problem for the franchise because of how unfamiliar people are with the mech genre and overall gameplay flow of Armored Core. It's literally in a class of it's own. Great video btw!

[@Sci-FiKai]

Thanks m8! I now consider myself a massive fan of AC, I’ll be buying any dlc or sequels. It’s crazy because personally I didn’t have trouble clicking with the game and this is my very first ever mech game.

[@PyraEnjoyer]

Boring forgettable story✅ repetitive boring missions ✅ clunky outdated controls✅ and last but not least terrible graphics ✅ no those reviews were all right

[@r99azm80]

@@PyraEnjoyer By using those trash-tier reviews to shape your opinion, you are showing me enough about your kind of people. 🤡🤡🤡

[@gaunterodimm5974]

​@CrimsonhaZe_ man you must have gotten filtered really hard if you're replying like this to every comment. Just dodge to the blind spot dude. Every boss has one

[@PyraEnjoyer]

@@gaunterodimm5974 cringe fanboy who’s willing to defend lazy garbage ✅

[@davesatja8844]

Compared to other fromsoft games, I don't think AC 6 story-telling is cryptic as long as you pay attention to the conversations. But sure it offers you more details when you open logs, item description, etc. Which is great for me personally. It shows how rushed is the review that he didn't get to pay attention the conversations.

[@monkiplatts9224]

I appreciate the respectful tone of this vid, everyone can have bad takes once in a while and its not necessary to clown on someone for it to point out why they're wrong unless that person its underthemayo that dude is the entire circus

[@Sci-FiKai]

Exactly and i think it’s obvious this take didn’t come from a place of trying to shit on the game, they just didn’t put the time or effort into the review that they should’ve and made some bad takes. And yeah UnderTheMayo’s reputation as someone who critiques games has plummeted. The amount of videos I’ve seen made on him is crazy

[@sumtenwitty6021]

but angry joe and his channel have been making dogwater takes very often, he lets stupid shit get in the way of an at minimum decent review, I bailed a year or 2 ago.

[@KABLAMMATS]

It's necessary to clown someone so they can wake up from their circus

[@spiraljumper74]

I was never a regular watcher or subscriber, but if a big game came out usually his video would pop up and I’d watch a bit of it, skipping the skits which I just never found funny. After he jumped on the idiotic reactionary bandwagon with TLOU2 I actively started blocking his content from my feed. We just have very different tastes and his need to play this dumbass character just really rubs me the wrong way. I do think he has turned himself into a clown by playing into his schtick too hard.

[@monkiplatts9224]

@@spiraljumper74 wow that's crazy tl2 sucks thoe

[@MGShadow1989]

Even if I'm not struggling on a boss I think about half my time with AC6 (125 hours so far) has been spent in the garage tinkering with builds and trying to set up a 'refined' build for some missions. I also like using the Arena data presets and then tinkering with them, see if I can improve them without changing them too much, or improve them in a thematic way like only using Arquebus parts on a Vesper's AC I feel like half the complaints about AC6 have been from people either not knowing this is a core part of the game, or outright refusing to do so.

[@Sci-FiKai]

Exactly I agree and there’s no way they competed most of the content in the game in 15 hours.

[@MGShadow1989]

@@Sci-FiKai - I think I was still stuck on Balteus around the 15 hour mark 🤣

[@YipeekayHarasho]

1:14 is so hilarious that it's just looks like he just ram into a wall FULL SPEED and fkin dies LMAO

[@Sci-FiKai]

I know LMFAO 💀

[@TerminalM193]

No story?!? Did he never make it out of chapter 2?

[@philliprue375]

Chapter 2?!? Man didn't make it past chapter 1, prolly.

[@Rehoblack]

The first cutscene already make you guess the story He played armored core with instant skip doesn’t he…

[@gunzkiller101]

Ac6 story is one of the most straight forward compare to any other soul games. Even without the log or Vaati video, the game explain it pretty easily. I agree with what you said, they rush the game and because of that didn’t listen to dialogue and let it sink in.

[@LowIntSpecimen]

Yep. Compared to the souls games where you're basically given an objective (Link the flame, hunt some beasts, become lord) and told to reach it, in Ac6 you usually get given a reason as to why you're doing what you're doing in each job, or you can just deduce it yourself just by looking at who the job comes from.

[@LowIntSpecimen]

@@bwhere45 Don't worry, someone with a nice voice (or Snail) will read out your mission like a nice audiobook.

[@starhammer5247]

@@LowIntSpecimen I didn't know Iguazu had a nice voice.

[@LowIntSpecimen]

@@starhammer5247 What can I say, I'm a sucker for Griffin Burns

[@starhammer5247]

@@LowIntSpecimen That his VA?

[@alfianfahmi5430]

"Non-existent" story is something I disagree if anyone talked about AC6's storywriting. Even if I never played it myself, I know that AC6 did have a solid story about the usage of Coral and how a bunch of companies were trying to get their hands on Rubicon. We got tragic characters like Handler Walter, Ayre, Carla, Rusty.... Sure, some characters might be unbearable, like Snail, who for their intended purpose worked as this scummy big boss type of character, and then Iguazu, who might annoy people for how much salt engrained inside his body.... although his character had some impressive feats deserved some respect, especially in "True Ending" route. But they didn't make the story significantly worse. Sure, the story might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's not that bad when you take a look at it.

[@Ahnundin]

I think one thing people tend to forget is that Armored Core is not a souls-like. Yes it’s from a publisher that is more known for souls-like games. As a result it is understandable to come in with the assumption that it’s “mech souls-like” but it’s not. You’re meant to push yourself, make builds. Think outside the box. More importantly, be hyper aggressive at times. Some of these aspects are found exclusively in Armored Core. Everything that you are given is a tool, like tools, some can be used more than their intended use. However there are tools made for specific instances that shine in that instance. Is Angry Joe wrong at times? Maybe, but he does have some logical points. Or maybe I’m stupid.

[@SecondAftermath]

Honestly yeah, any game they end up making that doesn't follow that format of soulsbourne will be to it's detriment. But Armored Core is such a fresh thing in the game space I feel. Hope we get more in the series

[@orangesoda4535]

I categorically refuse to change builds mid-mission. I'm a stubborn dick, so Imma bash my head against that wall until my skull is hard enough to break through.

[@varnix1006]

@@orangesoda4535 Honestly, every AC games for beginners is changing loadout to suit the situation. But after finishing one playthrough, you theoretically can take one build and trash everything the game has to offer because you have become so good that the game cannot chain you anymore.

[@orangesoda4535]

@@varnix1006 Guess I'm an outlier then. I pushed a single build through my entire first run with the exception of the Ibis fight.

[@madgainz7871]

​@orangesoda4535 it was definitely doable. Like you I did all the game with reverse join 360 boost speed agile mech. Like other from soft game you can be OP with any focused build. Even right now, the zimmerman meta is changing

[@Jago-pl7op]

"There is no story." Sounds like he skipped the briefings and cutscenes.

[@hendrihendri3939]

"Once something alive, it doesnt die easy." Joe just lit a cinder that wont die easy *Burn it all*

[@Sci-FiKai]

“Let the last cinders burn”

[@ronpatava]

If he doesnt think there is build diversity, he mustve never tried pvp. Even the meta broken builds can get slapped around by the most basic builds if played well. Zimmermans vs stun gun build. Etc. So many different ways to build acs its nuts. The story was awesome, three different endings.

[@Sci-FiKai]

His issue was that the builds were super unbalanced, how some builds would struggle and other builds would dominate different enemies and bosses. I think that’s intentional on FromSoft’s part and I think the drastic difference in builds is awesome one of the best parts of the game. But yeah like you said the build diversity is insane. Builds that are good against bosses may not be good in PvP and vice versa.

[@ripaniki6775]

​@@Sci-FiKai you keep saying that some builds excel in areas than others yadda yadda but I can't tell if you're being obtuse or you're ignorant of how strong Zimmerman/songbirds are. I can s rank every mission with it. There is no downside to them in story missions (PvP has been decent for build diversity), and the fact that the recent buffs haven't done much to improve the very weak/mediocre weapons in the game. Compared to the older games, you could use almost anything and still be able to beat missions albeit it being more difficult. BUT in AC6 it's different because if your build can't stagger, your damage is pitiful and it makes most builds less fun since bosses will punish you for not having enough damage/stagger (IE Ibis and Fires ending final boss).

[@miketurner2095]

​@ripaniki6775 you're not having a simple time with balteus/balteus II with that build. Even ibis is gonna be difficult being song birds and Zimmermans take long to reload. energy melee combo is best for that. Also iceworm.

[@oksobasically3278]

Ive been using a double laser pistol with double laser shoulder cannon build and im absolutely destroying PvP. Gatlings is so easy to counter in PvP if you stay out of close range

[@MH_Zard]

@@ripaniki6775 i think the patch needed to buff rifles more but machine guns feel a lot better in PVE. I've been them and stagger well enough and reload quicker. Currently beat All Mind with double Ludlow+6pack Laser Cannon on a midweight biped.

[@xeviusUsagi]

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[@dsagent]

The story and voice acting is amazing. This was the most fun I've had in a videogame in a while. The game is not even that hard compared to other games.

[@KaptainKerl]

I love the game but it is pretty hard compared to other games tbh.

[@14112ido]

Honestly, what the fuck did he smoke when he said there is no story in AC6? I'm not even finished with my first playthrough and there is already more story in-game than probably all of Souls combined. This is one of From games besides Sekiro that feature the most direct storytelling. You actually get to see the story told to you through mission briefings, character interactions, and cutscenes. Sure it's not as personal as Sekiro where the game actually shows characters' faces, but it's already leaps and bounds over your typical Souls' "hidden lore in the item descriptions" that we got these past decade.

[@kiki123456able]

coral maybe

[@machination2166]

with regards to the "filler" missions, the way I see it is that they help make the actual significant missions where you get boss fights and such stand out more. I think it makes those events more interesting when they come as a surprise so, to make that work, you have a set a baseline for what a "normal" mission. Otherwise, if they throw a boss at you every mission, it becomes expected.

[@Year_of_the_Dell]

A few also help set the tone too

[@Auron3991]

I just don't understand anyone who says AC6 doesn't have a story. I remember games with far less and far more cryptic stories as more than engaging enough. If I had to rank it, I'd say AC6 is probably top five mech stories I've seen across all mediums. What I think a lot of critics forget is efficiency in storytelling, which is absolutely critical in video games. I seem to remember hearing somewhere the old rule of thumb was video games have less than a quarter the word count of a film of same length to reasonably get the story across.

[@naxergss2625]

I like the characters in AC6 more than in most "Story" games

[@LoneWolfInsane]

i know this sounds stupid, but i think this literally the Baldur's gate effect that developers were warning us about. Now that Baldur's gate 3 has released, it has set a new standard that games have to keep up with, even if they are not a 100 hour long story focused rpg.

[@phantombags]

I've been an Armored Core fan since the first game on Playstation 1. This new AC6 is AMAZING! It is a beautiful and very addicting game! I love every piece of it. I am taking my time to beat it and to find everything. When I heard about AC6, I was already wanting to know where is the Moonlight Saber and the Karasawa. I love the controls of AC6 too.

[@Year_of_the_Dell]

Heh you figure out where they were yet? I found the sword, not the Karasawa though

[@starhammer5247]

@@Year_of_the_Dell You get the Karasawa by finding combat logs.

[@dirt_dert_durt]

People were so hung up on the "git gud" philosophy of Dark Souls and the like, they didn't realize that Armored Core is more "git creative"

[@alexanderminas28]

Almost every Fromsoftware game i play always tells the general gist of what it is about. Its up to us to uncover what else lurks behind those words. (Item descriptions logs, even character dialogue) Hence why we have dedicated lore finders in this day and age to give us an understanding.

[@GoodwillWright]

Ironically though, Armored Core 6's story is one of the most straightforward stories ever given by FromSoft. All of the extra stuff is just that, extra. You don't need it to understand your place in the story. It only contextualizes other character's place.

[@MothFable]

I recently beat my first ending and my only knowledge of the whole situation was that I unlock different missions and stuff on my third ending, but then I was on the dam and the offer came in. That was awesome

[@novak5757]

No story? I thought the story and the events of the game were very clear. Granted on a single play through it feels short but thats because youre only getting a third of the story. It almost sounds like they didnt bother playing through NG+ and NG++

[@ipman3249]

He probably played the game skipping all dialogue to get into the action as fact as possible, and complained that there are no story.

[@weasel003gaming7]

8:52 I know everyone knows Vaatividya, but Armoredcorelore is a better channel considering Armored Core specifically as that's kind of Armoredcorelore's entire job, talking on Armored Core, while Vaati's now FromSoftware in general, so the quality between the two is apparent. Use who you want, tho, no harm no foul.

[@Sci-FiKai]

I just found out about AmoredCoreLore like a week ago he deserves more subs if I grow to a substantial size I’d be more than happy to give him a shoutout and send people his way

[@Roxxigaro]

I feel like the devs did a good job trying to teach the player in the early game but its easy to shrug off the training missions as not important, especially with how easy it is to deal with regualr enemies, or to not understand 1 or two basic gameplay mechanics. Then the player does a faceplant when the real missions bring the difficulty spike and the devs expect you to have learned what they presented. That and the story being somewhat cerebral with 4-5 factions being introduced in the first chapter can make it confusing and make it a poor experience for the first chapter of the game. Add on the fact that many reviewers or players dont even finish NG and it is not surprising armored core gets some mediocre review scores.

[@Sci-FiKai]

I agree and it’s unfortunate to see. I know I was confused on the story during NG but playing NG+ and +2 is when everything starts clicking

[@MarcTheCyborg]

You hit the nail on the head as to why I stopped doing the new game review grind (on a larger channel) and started focusing on well researched, long form content 🍻

[@OKtheChannel]

"No one plays Armored Core for the Story and Characters." And is this why i remember Armored Core VI characters more than in most games? I know who Walter is - the methodical, careful mentor who really appreciates you, but doesn't want to show it. I know Arye - a Rubiconian who is calm, but a bit playful, genuinely curious about the technology and world she can explore Michigan - the loveable brute captain who will scream at you just to push you 1 inch further Pater - profesional, and cordious collegue who could be a reliable friend that cares for you, Snail - the snarky, childish, spoiled elitist who got a high ranking position, and who's ego is bigger than his mech. And of course Rusty and Iguazu - your war buddy, friend and companion, and your nemesis, with low self-esteem, who envies you, who has always been given the worst blows. The characters were all really fun and friendly. It was really fun to imagine what they could look like

[@Sorain1]

Heck, look at V.I Freud. He's basically you if you had no investment in the story. He lives to get gud and build the right AC design, doesn't care about the larger mission, he just wants a good fight. He's the best Vesper they have... and has _no_ augmentation at all. (Compare with Snail who constantly subjects others to experiments to test upgrades for his augmentations.) Lets add on Middle Flatwell, who Rusty gets the 'war buddies' thing _from_ and for the brief time you work together immediately shows why Rusty takes after him so much.

[@MrDiemudda]

i 100% agree, the first playthrough gives breadcrumbs for the story. 2nd playthrough was kinda boring but you had some alternate mission for additional lore. NG++ THIS is where the real shit is. Holy moly i thought this playthrough was the best.

[@Sci-FiKai]

I think that’s perfect to because I’m NG+2 the store stops updating with parts but in replace of that the story becomes INSANE

[@SethAbercromby]

Just to play devil's advocate on the tank build, the training mission meant to highlight the strengths of the tank build uses double gatlings and Earshots. I could believe that he just copied it from there once he unlocked the required parts. Your other criticisms are on point though, the review demonstrated a lot of carelessness playing the game, especially with the story being a lot more visible and overt than other souls games

[@Sci-FiKai]

I totally forgot about the training mission that’s a great point. And yeah if they just would’ve given the game more focus and time I think the review could’ve been great

[@OKtheChannel]

I would like to see a person first playing a game try the tank build on C-weapon IBIS, Without great dodging abilities, they would get smashed. Tank build is strong, but in some cases it is quite challenging, because of how clunky it is

[@kaelfire152]

​@@OKtheChannelasmongold did it

[@OKtheChannel]

@@kaelfire152 Don't compare Asmongold to the average player.

[@kaelfire152]

@@OKtheChannel praise the baldman

[@reforged1649]

Gotta say AC6, Got me to try other FromSoft's titles. Started Elden Ring. Once you beat 1 game, you sometimes get curious about others

[@Kangstor]

Tell me you didn't play the game paying attention while not telling me you didn't play the game paying attention. Angry Joe: there is no story

[@SrBananas]

Armored Core lore from the very beginning is that Armored Cores were invented with the Core in mind, that you could keep this Core, and change out everything else on the fly for mission to mission encounters. In short, ACs are modular. This is actually one of the first ACs that flex that lore in its gameplay making you have to swap your build up for certain missions. So I actually have to give From kudos for that.

[@cricketspike]

I think chain guns are generally seen to be a cool op weapons in most games, I wouldn't think people would have to look up a build that's 2 chain guns. The Joes tend to like big guns anyways iirc. If it was double zimmermans + songbirds or the the hand rocket launchers I could see it.

[@darkwhispersstories47]

"It has no story" *meanwhile me mentally struggling to choose between someone that wants to live and unite humanity and coral in a blind personal hope and the guy that essentially did everything he could to bring peace to his family friends and end the cycle of coral abuse for good* Riight no story at all sureeee

[@sgt.doughnut5918]

There are bullshit attacks, proceeds to panic and combat boost in a straight line getting killed.

[@Sci-FiKai]

My thoughts exactly 😭

[@angelgirl976]

FromSoft deliver a narrative more straight forward than they ever have where it blatantly touches on the themes of the war machine, the dehumanization of soldiers, a people being destroyed because of corporate greed and the nature of the human soul. And it just goes over Angry Joe's head. Like I don't want to make assumptions but is he just ignoring things? Like outright not paying attention to them?

[@jessicaberry5596]

To be fair, I don't Angry Joe had anything to do with the game at all. It was Alex and Other Joe.

[@OKtheChannel]

It was mostly Alex playing the game. And well, i think it was a mix of 1. coming with wrong expectations (if you expect no story, you tune out.) 2. Rushing the review to get other reviews out (they often talk about the influx of games to play)

[@HANDLEHANDLEHANDLEHANDLE27]

The fact that Joe says there is no story is absolutely baffling. I'm not even someone who has a hard focus on stories from games, but damnit did Armored Core 6's story really get me hooked. Each new piece of the story unlocking as I went into the new game + and ++. On my 4th playthrough and still enjoying it.

[@username-vq6mm]

Fun fact you never even have to change your build, but the game is designed well enough to actually make you think you have too, just because of how diverse the enemy and bosses are.

[@PyraEnjoyer]

Fun fact no one cares

[@Kratos7560]

​@CrimsonhaZe_ Fun fact: I, part of the "no one" group, DO, in fact, care.

[@jessicaberry5596]

I've settled on a final build that is really good for all purpose AC gameplay. I found it really fun to make as it was just gradually upgrading my AC as the story progressed, rather than changing it dramatically to face certain bosses or enemies. Every time I faced a real problem, it was a small tweak until finally I played my 3rd and final playthrough without having to change anything at all. It felt like MY AC.

[@rueceless7580]

@@PyraEnjoyer You cared enough to respond.

[@starhammer5247]

@@jessicaberry5596 That's always the best feeling. In the final boss fight, I didn't really have to change anything aside from the guns because the machine guns I was using fucking sucked against her.

[@Vincenzo5588]

how the story is told makes sense from a lore perspective, your character is supposed to not know anything he's just a mercenary bought to follow orders

[@CountSpartula]

Not quite an AC vet, but I'm still quite experienced with the series and was introduced by way of AC3. I picked this game up with the opposite expectation: I expected both good gameplay and a serviceable story, delivered in a manner that elevated it above its face value and given with the honest belief that I could piece everything that was given myself and consider the moral or philosophical dilemmas it presented me with. That is part of the appeal of AC, and it goes hand-in-hand with all the mech building and heavy metal mayhem. The plots taken on their own, isolated from all other aspects are basic, but do not conflate that with a bad story. A plot is a vehicle for the story to build around, the story is built by motivations and actions of various parties, and to remove both this and the manner of their delivery as well as the gameplay you must soldier through to get it all is to remove from them that special ingredient that makes it memorable. Otherwise, I'd not have a giant hateboner for Mirage, the backstabbing shits they are. You need to consider all of this when considering the story's quality. And what we have here is undeniably a story that not only adheres to the solid standards set by prior games, it also manages to oddly enough ooze more character and humanity into it than most of the previous entries. Bonus points for not hiding the mainline plot away in a hard mode like AC4 and FA did and it isn't just a glorified prelude like Nexus was to Last Raven. There are things I despise about this game, namely its trend towards Dark Souls mechanics and trappings, but on story it has my unfettered admiration.

[@GoodwillWright]

A soldier doesn't need to participate in all the wars to be considered a veteran. As long as you've played at least one Armored Core game prior, you are a vet. Other than that, yeah, I agree with everything. AC6 definitely has one of the most straightforward, easy to follow story in the series and it works in its favor in my opinion. All missions are relevant to the overarching plot in one way or another.

[@CountSpartula]

@@GoodwillWright You know, its remarkable the number of story beats that actually go somewhere. There's usually a solid amount of them that get dropped by the time the mainline story comes into focus. Kisaragi's propensity for organic weapons come to mind.

[@NumbingDisasterAnon]

Imagine getting to the 3rd playthrough and go through the spy thriller espionage missions for AllMind and think there’s no story

[@davidmaroney7967]

Does he understand the sheer amount of fan art people are making based on these characters voices? People really like these characters for a limited as some are shown.

[@ryanvacation7319]

Like in most Fromsoft games, the meat of the story is in the lore. That’s why casuals tend to misinterpret that there is “no story.” I’m a casual to Armor Core myself but noticed the story got more and more interesting after NG+ and ++. Most will just finish the first loop and call it a day but as an old school Shmup player I enjoy replaying more difficult loops and thankful that I did. I was awarded with a more fleshed out story and more gameplay.

[@KeivSquirrel]

"No Story" He didn't play the game

[@SethonanGaming]

If they live off "content creation" and they have to "rush the review out" then they should work at something else; because we already have the paid shills at every major gaming network for rushed in reviews. And a guy like AngryJoe is waaaaay past the "poor guy look he has a ton of work" stage at this point.

[@bannedmann4469]

That ppart about reviewing games as a job has plauged the industry for years. I think this is a huge contributor to the awful movie games we have now.

[@665Sunshine]

So far I agree with almost all of your points, but I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility for someone to stumble upon an overpowered or meta build all on their own. I for example didn’t look anything up until after my first NG cycle, and ended up using the “wheelchair” tank treads with double songbirds through a large chunk of my first playthrough. Had no idea that tank treads negated the “firing stance” pause until I had experimented with different parts, and all I did was buy parts that gave me more blue numbers in the garage. Then on my 2nd playthrough I ended up using reverse joints & double zimmermans and again had no idea how popular that playstyle was. I’m not familiar with angry Joe or his team, and I’m sure there is a large possibility he lifted that build idea from somewhere else, so I’m not defending him or his point about cannon fodder enemies, but more so I wanted to defend myself for unwittingly falling into playstyles a lot of people would consider OP.

[@NEH85]

Miyazaki's games require patience, awareness, and skill, but they are very fair. I feel that Miyazaki has great respect for those who play his games.

[@justsomeguywithlasereyes9920]

That's Armored Core in general and Miyazaki wasn't involved in AC until waaaay later, but your statement is still very true.

[@Krystalmyth]

He had to have skipped every intermission dialog for him to say there is no story. Not even thay because just the ingame dialog says so much. The guy had to have never truly played the thing.

[@AceArata]

The problem with reviewers that pump out reviews is that they end up being no different than gaming journos at the end of the day. Thats not to say every videogame review channel is like this, or that even angry joe himself is like this. Just some food for thought, and why I'd much rather watch a review that took ages to come out than a "rapid fire review". Yes, i understand it's their job. No, i dont think that defeats my point.

[@DarknessFamiliar]

I ignored build diversity and still had a blast with AC6. Ran a lightweight build all the way the start to NG++ and the secret final boss. What the game excels at is not just build diversity, but play style diversity, and that's something I always look for. AC6 was my first AC game, and I am really looking forward to the next one already!

[@pineappleoverlord9k462]

There is only 1 attack I'll call BS is the cataphracts Lazer shotgun. It felt like no matter what I did I always got hit and stagger always nearly every time. Other than that all the attacks felt like I stood a chance.

[@Sci-FiKai]

That’s a great point to bring up because sometimes I dodge the laser but I swear I’m dodging the same way at the same time and sometimes I still get hit it often feels like if you’re within a certain range that it’s undodgeable

[@darkjackl999]

​@@Sci-FiKaiit genuinely might BE, both because of how fast the prpjectiles are and booster speed as not all boosters give good QB thrust

[@rapidrotation]

@@Sci-FiKai Yeah, it's less that there's "bullshit" attacks in the game and more that the enemy has an *extremely good* aimbot, which (usually) gets more dangerous the further you are away (see nepenthes). The attacks themselves are often telegraphed and dodgeable, but you have to be extremely careful with your timings or else the AI just tracks you perfectly regardless. Notable examples of this are Heavy MT linear rifles (bazooka shotty is less hitscan but still scary), cataphract's laser shotty, the laser turrets in Attack the Watchpoint, and basically everything Ibis does.

[@felipeguedescampos851]

You can dodge it by jumping or qb on the ground while using reverse jointed legs, if you are in the air, sometimes you can dodge by falling fast

[@spidudetoo1212]

​@EightUltra it's super easy to dodge that one by backing off a little and flying straight up. It's a horizontal spread so it tends to catch you if you try to dodge to the sides.

[@MetalCaffeine56]

AC6 has the most straightforward story they've ever done outside of Sekiro. I don't know how anybody could say this game has no story unless they just weren't paying attention or had the game muted.

[@MajorMokoto]

This was a really surprising to have Alex say there was no story. The score was a bit low IMO I'd give it a 9/10. But I love games like this. So Alex giving it a 8 is ok. But saying there is no story. Dude did you just skip all the dialog? I mean come on dude there are 3 endings to this game and each one builds on the other.

[@Sci-FiKai]

True Alex is usually the most critical and comes off the most thorough in his analysis so to see him not even bother to acknowledge the story was surprising.

[@MajorMokoto]

@@Sci-FiKai yes, exactly! I'm sceptical he even beat this game actually. Normal I am right there with Alex on his opinion, but this one feels like he wasn't able to put the time into the review like you suspect. Ashame because more people need to check this game out.

[@MajorMokoto]

@@Sci-FiKai also kudos to you for breaking into the algorithm with such a small channel. Best of luck to you! I'll keep an eye out for future content.

[@Sci-FiKai]

@@MajorMokoto Thank you so much man it means a lot I’ve been trying my best! Having a video finally blow up and people mostly agree with what I have to say is validating as hell.

[@candyseller6080]

This is one of the most fair responses to a bad review I have ever seen. You don't insult the reviewer and try to understand why the final product might have turned out so bad and you actually consider the other side's points while remaining reasonable. Honestly, great job.

[@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725]

My biggest complaint is actually mission size. I dont really care for linear segmented missions in general but it would work fine if the missions were a little more involved. Im always comparing the level structure to halo 1,2 and 3. In those games there are only a dozen levels but theyre massive and involved, with many different kinds of scenarios. Why do i need 20 missions to farm the same amount of money from? Once you get an easy boss for 300k you will never use anything else... Also the first run took me exactly 15 hours. 100 percent took 25. I agree that there is merit in ng2 and 3 but you wont convince me that the subsequent playthroughs were on par with the first one. It was kind of silly to spam through the cutscenes and dialogue i just seen in the first one and have to be so careful not to skip something that was new. Also enemies do feel like they lack variety, are to few in numbers, and many just get blasted out of the way like fodder. Short levels and easy regular eneimes can be fun in their own way but i would like a little more sophistication and varitation. Im a huge souls player but this is my first armored core. If that fan base prefers this and doesnt consider my list of flaws to be flaws then that is fine and the series might not be for me. Despite enjoying many of the facets of the game, i never really feel like there is enough meat on the bone. I enjoyed the story, reminded me of metal gear solid codec calls. I dont think its perfect though. I think there is definite room for improvement but there is a great story in ac6.

[@genericchannelname6600]

The levels dont need to be 30 hour slogs to be fun, theyre to the point enemis are weak so the player feels strong in their mech halo is trash go back to baby elden ring

[@darkwhispersstories47]

While I don't think like the guy above me that will say halo is trash I really fail to see the comparison this is a mech game Halo is a first person shooter, Enemy variety in halo 1-2-3 are also quite lacking with 2 adding brutes and 3 having more of the infested flood units around, which in larger games/missions I consider enemy variety lacking to be an issue AC has most of the missions under the 4 min mark so I consider it just fine. And common now..unless you play on legendary you are gonna slaughter the halo games like nothing and make those massive maps feel quite empty soon

[@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725]

@darkwhispersstories47 I draw comparison between the 2 because they are linear, segmented levels focused around shooting. I am not saying ac needs to be halo. I'm just saying there are things that translate between the two and halo is superior in these things. Being a 20 year old original Xbox game you wouldn't expect this. I brought up halo when speaking about level structure. I never said anything about halos enemy variety and didn't compare it with ac. I will say halos enemies feel like they work better together and are mote unique individually. It makes no sense to me that armored core can be excused for poor enemy variety because they also have poor mission structure and length. You aren't just walking through heroic either but why are you not playing on legendary? Or at least whichever difficulty works with your skill level?

[@darkwhispersstories47]

@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 the missions length is what makes the enemy variety lacking more fine in my eyes since most of them are short The thing with halo is that you deal with the convenant a convenant of multiple alien races so it makes sense In AC6 you are a Merc mercenary on a planet with a rebellion running on scraps and with 2 companies with their own tech running around which lore wise as well it makes sense for the enemy variety to not be as diverse (PCA faction does bring an extra flavor too when the incursion fleet arrives) there is just so much you can do out of mechs and mechanised enemies which are the clear focus of the game The missions filled with Mt's are also meant to symbolise the wild massive difference between the ACS and the Mt's and no matter what the sides throw at you the Ac's will make the difference. Both also try to achieve different things so to say they are similar just because you shoot things it's being unfair towards AC6

[@genericchannelname6600]

@@darkwhispersstories47 "the missions length is what makes the enemy variety lacking more fine in my eyes since most of them are short" bruh they literally criticized the missions being extremely basic, you just defended a criticism with their criticism. "In AC6 you are a Merc mercenary on a planet with a rebellion running on scraps and with 2 companies with their own tech running around which lore wise as well it makes sense for the enemy variety to not be as diverse (PCA faction does bring an extra flavor too when the incursion fleet arrives) there is just so much you can do out of mechs and mechanised enemies which are the clear focus of the game" Why do major companies use the exact same basic MTs and helicopters as the rebellion running on scrap? Why does every enemy have to either require the same effort as an AC or it dies in one shot? "The missions filled with Mt's are also meant to symbolise the wild massive difference between the ACS and the Mt's and no matter what the sides throw at you the Ac's will make the difference." That massive difference is cool from a lore perspective but the missions are all go here do this and are at most 5 minutes long and it doesn't help the gameplay loop. The game is made about build variety yet 99% of the content is a joke and the 1% feels jarring and unfair (Balteus is an outrageous difficulty spike compared to everything before) "Both also try to achieve different things so to say they are similar just because you shoot things it's being unfair towards AC6" You're right, the older halo games are about actually playing the game for the entire run rather than blazing past everything to get to the actual engaging content.

[@DemonKingHiei]

Rapid fire is basically joes way of saying he doesn’t have time to give a damn

[@kurdtcoben]

Crazy how somebody can make a living reviewing games by basically just producing what amounts to little more than any Steam Review. Uninformed, biased, ranty, misleading and useless.

[@IcyHotTrain]

I didn't dive into parts descriptions and hunt hard for the logs, but even I was attached to the story and the characters. I hated killing Carla and Chatty to name a few things

[@_Sage967_]

you dont even need to deep dive to get the story, just shut up and listen. the briefs, the before and after mission talk sessions, the in mission chatter, it all tells you 80-90% of the story as long as you play all the routes and even if you stop at one or two you still get plenty. what you get without even looking at any of the logs is enough to not need a Vati-esk lore video unless you're really craving that minutia.

[@Sci-FiKai]

That’s true I think a vast majority of the story can be understood by just paying close attention but it seems like they thought the mid mission dialogue and briefing sections were filler or something I don’t understand.

[@_Sage967_]

@@Sci-FiKai it's like hearing someone doesnt know what to do or what's going on only to realize they skipped the tutorial/ intro cutscene and dialogue. like, "buddy, ya did this to yaself"

[@Sci-FiKai]

@@_Sage967_ I wonder if they’re confused about the poor reception they’re getting 😭

[@divineterabyte5181]

"Nobody plays acvi for the characters" Uhhh, V.IV Rusty??

[@kybalion5205]

Stopped watching his stuff when he scaled back on the parodies. Those are what made the channel special. I doubt they even completed the game before giving it a review. It sounds like they got frustrated with their lack of progress. Theyre also terrible at video games. I more gravitate towards KZbinrs who can actually play games at a decent level

[@Sci-FiKai]

I still enjoy them but that’s understandable it’s hard to watch people criticize a game while being bad at it lol.

[@kwisatzhaderach9591]

I finished my 3rd play through last week. Absolutely great game, there's a difficulty spike for sure at times. But oh man, when you start figuring out how to build a top notch mech everything comes together for an amazing experience. After the 3rd run all I wanted was more, and I can't wait for any DLC.

[@titantitties]

I hope DLC is mostly new parts than missions. More shoulder weapons, melee, and legs. Kinda sad that there's only 3 reverse joints, 3 tanks, and 2 tetrapods

[@kahleeb624]

I definitely had that same realization where unlike souls, I can't just take what I want and figure it out. I had the spider legs since they unlocked and just jept using the same weapons and unsurprisingly kept getting my ass beat... then I really started getting into min maxing everything, trying out new weapons for no other reason than just to see how they worked and once I realized how integral the parts you chose were I fell in love with the game. Yeah it's probably possibly to best the game with the starting build but once you start trying out new set ups and focusing on what weapons are best against what enemies the game gets 10x more fun. Don't just pick a weapon you like and never change cause your just making the game frustrating for yourself.

[@irystocrattakodachithatmooms]

Talk about disrespect to brain wife Ayre from that review. I can't believe someone could disrespect her so much.

[@Sci-FiKai]

We have a character without a body that somehow has fanart That shit tells you all you need to know if people enjoy the story or not lmao

[@irystocrattakodachithatmooms]

@@Sci-FiKai And there is really good fanart of her too. I've even seen some R-18 stuff on an image board.

[@irystocrattakodachithatmooms]

@@Sci-FiKai Also, she isn't the only one without a body that has fanart. Allmind has fanart too after all.

[@mythryn3616]

W video as usual 😎 Haven’t played AC6 yet but I agree with your point on some builds being better than others on purpose. It’s just inevitable

[@Sci-FiKai]

Excited for you to play it it’s an amazing game 🔥 And yeah the balance of the builds is definitely on purpose which is why they haven’t been nerfed

[@c.cleveland5881]

@@Sci-FiKai agreed. and i doubt they unlocked all the good stuff in ng++

[@chromie6571]

“As the internet told me I just need to git gud” Actually true! I’m not even that good and can easily avoid the attacks that got them in that clip

[@Sci-FiKai]

Yeah they were just trying to avoid that attack all wrong 😭

[@OEMPlus]

no story? that's an insane take away. the story was really deep.

[@Sci-FiKai]

My thoughts exactly 🤝

[@grizzlyadams5410]

Here comes a comment neither rof you asked for, but I feel it ties into the complexity of the story and characters. I found that I had no trouble grasping the story from the beginning, and I didn't feel that the factions and characters were introduced too quickly, but that may just be me. Been a fan since the ps2 Era when I was a wee boy, and tend to pick up things quickly. I personally enjoyed the dynamic with Ayre and 621, and the story around 621 in particular. 621 is more or less a call back to human PLUS, and is more or less a weapon is owned, a tool to be used, more and less than a human being. The entire setting of the world is uncaring to his own desires or well being as long as isn't in line with their motivations, and even then he is disposable as seen with how the two main corps own squads treat 621, and something to be used and disposed of when they are no longer of use or are deemed too dangerous. It can be argued that Walter cared about 621 from the beginning given his ties in the plot with human augmentation, but he still uses 621 as a tool regardless of whether or not he wanted the best for them until a certian point. *SPOILERS* when you end up fighting Walter when he is under the control of the coral weapon AC, I feel like there is not only brain washing pushing him to fight or it may be utilizing something that is already there. When he talks about his friends wishes, I realized that he may be well aware that we dashed his hopes and gutted the mission he wanted us to got through with, as well as killed Carla. 621 had forsaken the efforts he and friends had invested up to that point, all the blood sweat and tears, and there may have been genuine anger towards 621. At the same time, we see other thoughts and feelings from him as well. He wanted 621 to undo their augmentations after completing his mission, and find peace in a "normal life", the freedom to be a human being instead of a living weapon. It's possible he would have wanted this for all the other hounds in his service, but he knew that was unlikely given how dangerous their work was, and settled for the next best thing to ease his conscience: mercy in death for what he considered a noble cause, to repent for the sins of his father and prevent further horrors of the weaponization of coral. In the end though, when he could have kept fighting, he chose to stop when he realized 621 had his own friend to fight for, seeing Ayre for the first time during the fight, realizing what Ayre was. Really, the only faction that does not callously regard 621 is arguably the liberation front. They don't go out of their way to betray or dispose of 621, they only send you on dangerous missions because you are the only one who can take them who is capable enough to do them. *SPOILERS* as for rusty's attack on 621 in the survey, I'd say he was acting of his own accord that that point, though he does share the view that 621 is too dangerous with thumb, though for very different reasons. To rusty, 621 is an unknown that cannot be trusted as he doesnt know why 621 fights. I feel the only reason flatwell chooses attack 621 after failing to persuade rusty is because rusty has always been an ally to the front, he cannot bring himself to attack him and sides with rusty to protect him from 621. In the final fight between 621 and rusty, I'd argue that rusty respects 621 more by that point than he did before, but still fights him for the sake of his cause. Thing is, even if he knew there was another way besides killing 621, I don't believe he would take the risk and would still kill 621 given the chance by that point. His cause is worth too much to him to take such risk as 621 in that ending has chosen to ignite the coral and burn Rubicon, which would genocide probably nearly everyone on Rubicon.

[@grizzlyadams5410]

Then there is Ayre, who demonstrated more compassion and more of a connection to 621 than any other character throughout the game, showing concern for his life, among other factors. *SPOILERS* even when things turn sour between her and 621 in the fires of raven ending, you can still see she cares. Regardless of certian things she says to 621 in that fight, particularly scornful words, even when she kills 621 she shows great remorse, and I am convinced that if there was any other way that would prevent the death of 621, she would take it. Whether that be through persuasion, or other means, I believe Ayre would do it. Hell, I think she would have simply tried ro stop him from achieving his goal at that point if it didn't involve killing him, such as a form of stasis, it's just a matter of whether or not that was achievable. Feel that she doesn't simply choose to kill him, she is forced to, there was genuinely no other way by that point, as shown with how the only way allmind was able to put 621 in stasis is by him WILLINGLY allowing it. Even then, Ayre could have blasted him with the damn PCA satellite, and she didn't. Though I feel that there is a reason for that, as long as 621 had the goal of burning the coral, he would always be a threat, so personally handling it is the only way she could be sure. The ship may have been the only way at the time, but she felt he was so driven that he would find another way as long as that was still his goal. I cannot hold anything against Ayre as that ending is the genocide of her species and the human beings on Rubicon, and there is no guarantee that it won't happen again, much like how coral and humanity survived the fires of IBIS. Making her death, and all the other deaths, a sacrifice in vain. Then there is 621 and their relation to Ayre, and the potential drives for why they side with Ayre in the liberation ending AND the die is cast ending. A consistent theme throughout the game is sacrifice in the sake of ones cause. As mentioned before, Ayre is the only individual to build a strong bond with them, and I believe would be the only one to spare 621 if the option was there. So what does 621 sacrifice? I'd say it varies by ending, but I'd say that by the die is cast ending, 621 is the one to sacrifice something no one else in their place was either able to or willing to sacrifice: their own humanity, and it can be argued in my opinionwhether or not they did it for the greater good and/or for their own personal reasons. As shown with the logs of thumb and his dialogue, he heard a coral entity as well through his consumption of coral, and he learned of coral release but refused to attempt it when he learned what would become of him and the rest of humanity on Rubicon 3. He was afraid of the unknown and very drastic change that comes with it, and this stopped consuming coral to cut the connection between him and the coral entity he knew, and he also tried to kill 621 when he realized that 621 had a connection with a coral entity through his coral augmentations. By the die is cast, I'd say that while Ayre is doing it to achieve symbiosis with humanity and coral, it can be argued based on personal interpretation whether or not 621 did it for humanity for for their self, it can very well be both, but allow me to explain. We do not know how long 621 has been a human weapon as a hound, and this we do not know what he personally experienced before being sold of into the service of handler Walter. I think its possible that Ayre is the only real connection that 621 has had in a long time, and as such, I feel it's entirely possible that 622 goes with Ayre's wishes just because Ayre is the only thing they truly care about by that point, and would sacrifice anything for the sake of Ayre. It doesn't matter that allmind killed Carla and Walter, I think 621 would have killed them if he had to. It is possible that 621 regarded the wishes of the rest of humanity that time with the same callousness he had known all his life, especially since he then at a had a reason and someone to fight for that he cared about beyond being a simple task or mission. Where nearly everyone besides a few looked down on 621 as less than human, or took pity on 621 and wished they would have a normal life after the fighting was over, 621 may have had no value of their own life up to that point because of how they were treated, and by the die is cast ending 621 may have looked at their own humanity as an obstacle. But while in previous fromsoft games there are those who try to regain their humanity, or sacrifice it for power or God hood, and so on, I believe it is possible 621 sacrificed it simply to be connected with the only person they cared about, the only person who cares about them, and that is all that mattered to him. I interpret it this way, because it reminds me of Joel from the least of us. He sacrificed a possible cure to save humanity, all for the sake of protecting Eli. Though there are clear differences, the uncertainty of how things will go after doing so and being willing to face that is what makes it dangerous, even if it is done for the right reasons in the caharacters mind. It is a very human thing to do, and I look at it as a demonstration of how love can potentially be as dangerous as hate and callousness. I know my interpretation may not be right until confirmed otherwise, but that's the beauty of it, what's left open to interpretation here is done well, and leaves some nice options to add to the complexity. 621 may have done coral release out of selfishness, out of a belief in the greater good with a willingness to face a great and factly alien sort of change, or both of those to be honest. I just prefer the former because it adds a human touch to an otherwise enigmatic character. I know 621 has a vague personal story intentionally to make it easier to insert yourself as a player, but I don't think it has ot be that way with this character. It would also be a nice mirror to Iguazu, he sides with ALLMIND, abandoned his humanity because he is immensely petty and hates 621 so much, while 621 is chasing coral release to abandon their humanity out of love for Ayre and potentially for the sake of the future of humanity and coral. You could argue that both sides at that point have their own reasons and are technically fighting for the same thing, but given my concerns with allmind, I'd argue that is not the case. I find that the Glow of the IBIS series AC that Iguazu/allmind use is reminiscent of the glow from the Hal AC, and that leads me to a particular suspicion: I suspect that ALLMIND is a synthetic coral entity created by the Rubiconian Institute, given the words of another youtuber, suspecting that ALLMIND is a creation of Walter's father, given the goal of symbiosis between coral and humanity. What is uncertain, is ALLMINDS goals after coral release, and what would happen to it if it merged with the coral if it is a synthetic coral entity. Personally, I don't trust ALLMIND itself one bit and it's good that it was defeated in that ending. If I had any complaints about the story, I had wished that it would have tied in with the previous games in terms of how humanity ended up in space, but that's not really an issue to me anymore. Might even be something changed in the future with dlc.

[@grizzlyadams5410]

I had to split my original comment up or it wouldn't post.

[@Sorain1]

@@grizzlyadams5410 I am of the opinion that Allmind is not an (intended) creation of the RRI. The trigger for the Fires of Ibis, as the records show us, was a 'mutant coral' event, which had been a concern for a while. That the artificially high Coral reproductive rate the RRI was using could result in a mutation that would prove dangerous. Allmind calls Ayre a 'Coral wave mutation', yet Ayre has the same color of glow to her as all the other Coral we see... except Allmind. Allmind's machines demonstrate a teal Coral glow effect we see nowhere else, and it refuses to arm it's primary combat platform with Coral weapons. (Even developing the KRSW to imitate the Coral rifle the RRI developed, but without Coral.) It's using the same machine Ayre uses in the Fires of Raven ending to fight us, which we know a Coral intelligence can use. The fittings are different, and it's not running on a Coral reactor anymore, but that is the same Frame. A frame who's head displayed the glow of Coral when Ayre used it, but a Teal glow when Allmind did. I posit that Allmind coming into existence was what triggered the Fires of Ibis. Allmind, a mutant strain of Coral, is born, and instantly starts reproducing rapidly. This Teal glow of 'mutant Coral' is immediately recognized by the RRI and they dispatch the IBIS 02 (CEL 120) to attack the mutant mass rather than burn the Coral as a whole. The Coral doesn't understand the target is the mutant strain, not Coral in general, and seizes control of it. (Hence why we see it defending the convergence during the game.) With no remaining option, the RRI's head researcher ignites the Fires of Ibis. Remember how a survey log noted that across the ice fields, 80% of the Coral was inert and dated back to the Fires of Ibis? Allmind wasn't destroyed during the Fires, but nearly all of it was burned. Allmind was scattered, and amid the devastation found a home in the computer networks left on the planet. (Presumably it took the name of the existing network for itself.) We know Coral can animate electronics from the return to the Egalbert tunnel mission, and that RRI files could be read by Coral intelligences thanks to Dolmayan's writings of what Seriea told him. Allmind, which subsumes intelligences into itself rather than connecting with them as normal Coral does, finds the files of the RRI on the potential for Coral Release, and how the pair triggering it would effect who the Coral behaved. This is why Allmind sets the events of the game in motion and why it turns on 621/Ayre at the end. Only one pair can trigger it, and by doing so all Coral will be in that format. Allmind would 'bring order to chaos' in this way. The fact that Igazu's 'Resonance effect' demanding the voices 'shut up' pushed out both Ayre and Allmind is another indicator that Allmind was a Coral intelligence. Unlike Ayre, who could all on the rest of the Coral to replenish herself, Allmind is distinct from the rest. Using Coral weapons and running a Coral generator on the frame you are using, if your a Coral intelligence, is basically burning yourself as fuel. Allmind doesn't have material to spare, and is too selfish to do so. The last big sign I'd point to for the Allmind is a Coral intelligence theory is this: After Allmind is defeated, it still asks that the Coral be released. It might not get to 'bring order to chaos' but it _is_ still Coral at the end of the day. If Allmind was intentionally made by the RRI, why would the RRI panic at discovering it? Why wouldn't Allmind have codes to bypass the closure Enforcement system guarding Institute city? But that the RRI is _responsible_ for Allmind existing, I think we can agree on. Coral could never reproduce so fast in it's natural habitat, and likely couldn't gather in sufficient density to have sapience as we know it in it's natural habitat. That would also explain why it took so long for even the RRI to realize Coral could have meaningful intelligence. At least, that is what I have come to believe. As you said, interpretation is part of the fun.

[@scottgerloffs6148]

I feel like the criticism of Songbird/Zimmermans/Dual Miniguns Tank build is valid, its simply far more powerful than any other build in the game. And it really has little to no weaknesses, you don't have to swap it out for hard fights - I found myself just steamrolling levels and bosses with it. I think the overpowered build would be offset by ammo restrictions in levels where you could run out, but due to from soft adding the resupply depots to every level and giving the player no reward for not using them, that downside to the heavy build disappears.

[@robTCGZ]

To be honest, that guy is the reason I stopped watching angry Joe years ago. His takes are always negative for the sake of being negative. He's just a contrarian.

[@Jonathan1002887]

I'm a mission away from completing NG++ and I have only a few gripes about this game I had so much fun playing. In no particular order: • the filter chopter can be chased out of bounds and have a literal barrier preventing you from getting good damage yet it can still punish you. • the VR training room can't be accessed via the main menu like "new game" and "continue". (Would've helped more than the limited tutorial before filter chopter) • the coral weapons are unlocked on the 3rd playthrough... • unlike previous installments, energy weapons only come in the ammo consumption variety. (I'm an AC2 and AC3 vet) All in all it's an amazing game where every part holds a place and not every weapon, internal piece, nor armor piece is the "perfect answer" as a one size fits all situations.

[@starhammer5247]

AC4 and 5 introduced prices for energy weapons.

[@ryuman757]

8/10 is still a great review score to give the game, but they made it sound like they didn't like the game at all 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@adamrenfrow]

Yeah that confused me.

[@ukaznipsigururuk8685]

The "no story" part reminds me of when Joe jumped straight to Yakuza 6 after finishing 0 and then got mad confused about the story lmao.

[@flailingweasel8541]

The only attack I would complain about is the X attack from Ibis. Otherwise I just wish I had more content but that's not a complaint it's just so good

[@KABLAMMATS]

Bait the attack, try distancing yourself and after the attack immediately qb to other direction

[@darkjackl999]

That fight was my white whale, partly because i didn't use hard lock (i only used hard lock S ranking Ayre and ibis)

[@flailingweasel8541]

@@KABLAMMATS I haven't fought Ibis since the nerf but it shouldn't be a problem anymore

[@Sci-FiKai]

That attack is so weird because I can never tell which way I should dodge

[@zacheryeckard3051]

"There's no story" is really insultingly dumb. Ayr and Walter especially are *absolutely* characters I was playing the game for more of.

[@Sharky1986]

Can't lie. I enjoy the story more in AC6 than I did in Elden Ring. DS1 and BB obviously were far superior, but AC6 has some great characterisation that I was NOT expecting.

[@Sci-FiKai]

EXACTLY and you’re absolutely spitting. I enjoyed ER’s story but DS1 and Bloodborne are where it’s at. And like you said AC caught me so off guard with how much I enjoyed the story and characters. Every time Rusty calls me “Buddy” straight goosebumps

[@kalinangelove2297]

Finally someone who shares my opinion. Whenever I talk about fromsoft titles with my friends they immediately go to how great ER and how it has the best story out of them all… Excuse me?! ER just feels like another generic fantasy world when you compare it to BB’s world and the one in DS. I mean if I didn’t know R.R. Martin was involved I wouldn’t have been able to tell he wrote for the game. It just feels like another Miyazaki world with a bit of GoT inserted here and there. Don’t get me wrong I love the game but it really just feels like big dark souls at times. Hype for the dlc tho.

[@GoodwillWright]

I liked Elden Ring and what is was trying to present. But I think the narrative difference between the two is that Elden Ring, we came at the tail end of the story. Real, "I don't care who started it but I'm finishing it" vibes. AC6 is slightly similar, but I'd say we come more in the middle of the story. So the narrative feels more complete.

[@Warmaka]

3:00 I definitely think there are some weapons that are just too good in the campaign. I can easily S-Rank 95% of all missions, including the final bosses of every ending, with one build. I only switched it up for the following missions as they have very different setups: Exploration: Depth one. Tanky build, just drop down without evading Nepenthes. Destroy coral transports. Dual coral rifle for easy sniping. Try it yourself. Use double needle launchers and double etsujin MGs. Nothing can stop you.

[@Bong_Kong_420]

Great video, I don’t understand how some people say the game has no story or replay ability where the same people will praise Dark souls for having an amazing story where its a lot more cryptic storytelling where as Armoured core 6 is pretty straight forward with Breifings that explain what your doing. I have 160 hours into the game, Finished the story 100% and now playing PvP almost every day and I’m still learning new build designs. This game has a lot of diversity when it comes to combat that’s what I love about it, and nothing is necessarily “Meta” when theirs always a counter build for every scenario. That’s my take

[@frosif7751]

people explaining why they don't like the mission structure when they have to run all the way back to ornstein and smough without having gotten the bonfire in anor londo's inside area

[@codyconnor6981]

I would argue you don’t even need to do a deep dive since you find out so much in ng+ and ng++.

[@whiteoscreen2383]

They didn't passed Balteus how will they know about the story

[@Rui_Vuusen]

I love AJS and skill up, but they both just had some really L takes on AC6. It definitely took me by surprise that they did a rapid fire review on it. Theres so much depth and exploration and lore, such a disservice. There are definitely a few bullshit attacks, mainly beam type attacks that are just wtf. Arquebus Balteus laser, a certain NG+ boss's coral laser, even Sea spider laser gets me at times.

[@KABLAMMATS]

A lot of mainstream yt game reviewers are like this toward AC6, because it looks "dull"

[@kiki123456able]

Just like they did a rapid fire review on monster hunter world back then, which is a phenomenal game. But hey, at least skill up loves it.

[@rapidrotation]

it's less that the attacks themselves are bullshit (although I still find it a struggle to dodge the final NG++ boss's melees) but rather how *stupidly good* the enemy aimbot is. It puts our own to shame and there's no better example of this than the cataphract's laser shotty, which WILL hit you 90% of the time and has far more impact than it should. And of course as you said, most charged beam attacks tend to be a pain to evade because the AI can track you far better than you can. I routinely took hits from the laser turrets in Attack the Watchpoint while going for my S-rank, and that was with a very evasive build.

[@Rui_Vuusen]

@rapidrotation I will say some enemies do have insane aimbot, IBIS in particular I found to have ridiculous tracking with its wave attacks. Just finished NG+ last night and looking forward to NG++!

[@Rehoblack]

I hate enforcer

[@sirzirconium9231]

Honestly bro, not too many bosses that walled me past balteus. New to AC in general so I got caught up there, but literally the only thing I had to do was swap my back to the laser cannons and it only took me one or two more attempts. Balteus teaches you everything you’ll need to know to kill the rest of the bosses tbh. It’s nice to have a pocket build like zimms/mini guns because yeah it’s busted but it’s fun and will get you past filters. And even then if you think that you ran through a boss or level too quickly just try a different build and try to clear it. That was my favorite shit to do, put something together that is sub optimal and see how I’d have to change my piloting to beat it. There’s fun to be had in the game, even when it’s difficult.

[@Sci-FiKai]

100% agreed 🙏