Debunking Araki Forgot Extras: 4

[@Hamon_Beat]

Reply to this comment with your ideas for a future Debunking Araki Forgot Extras video. Only include topics from Parts 1-7 of JoJo, and from spin-offs such as Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan. Please refrain from leaving tons of replies to eachother, since it makes it very difficult to find the comments later, and leaves less room for others to reply.

[@kingofnothing1871]

Araki forgot to include me in jojo

[@Lena-di2ln]

Why don’t the clothes of the funny valentines from different worlds combine and get destroyed like other objects?

[@mr.andrew7820]

I don't know If this is only in the anime but,when vanilla ice was exposed to the sun his clothes remained unchanged but when dio was exposed his clothes explodes(plus,dio's clothes in part 1 remained unchanged even after being cut by the luck sword)

[@mr.google1437]

I'm not too sure if this is in the anime only but doesn't Rohan write "goes to/going to hell" in cheap trick when he's being grabbed by the ghost hands? Does that being up philosophical questions on whether A. Hell exists in JOJO B. If it didn't previously, then does that mean Rohan created and then sent the stand to it C. Rohan can possibly write anything into the page, regardless if it can happen

[@adultcarrots4603]

In part 6, when Dio heals Pucci’s foot, wouldn’t he become either a zombie or a vampire?

[@crispybutters]

“This person doesnt seem to understand” is one of the funniest ways to start a sentence debunking someone

[@z-v-x8324]

"These people don't seem to know how a fridge works."

[@singletona082]

It also makes you sound like a massive douch cannoo. Even if you're right.

[@black97_0]

@@z-v-x8324 still the best roast in this videos XD

[@mrreyes5004]

@@black97_0 So-called "fans": Araki forgot how his Stands work! Also "fans": **Forgot how basic irl early-2000's technology works.**

[@Needwagon4Speedwagon]

He's so polite, if it was me I'd start with "This fucking donkey can't even" or something

[@Predator20357]

This series is going to basically just end up with him explaining every single aspect of the manga including the Non Cannon parts too

[@terriblyterrified8742]

soon enough hamon beat might have to explain how araki's date of birth has nothing to do with joseph losing his clackers

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

"So basically, Dio and Jonathan were rivals and Dio was not a good guy."

[@singletona082]

He's gotta get his epeen stroking in somehow. *shrug*

[@Predator20357]

@@singletona082 uh, okay?

[@corryjamieson3909]

Next he's gonna include the bible

[@IguessNils]

A common misinformation about JoJo is the creator, Hirohiko Araki, himself. Many people believe that he is a vampire, because he doesn't seem to have changed a lot over the years. That is not correct, because if he WAS a vampire, I'm pretty sure I would have seen him at the anual vampire meet-up but NOPE, nothing.

[@Voc_spooksauce]

Maybe he's just hiding between mirrors

[@lowbridge4080]

His probably a rock human

[@ironwraith852]

Maybe you’re not seeing him there, because they’re sending you the wrong information about where the important vampires are.

[@remixtheidiot5771]

@@lowbridge4080 that would explain his hiatuses and why part 9 is taking so long! He's currently on his annual hibernating phase!

[@ahmadtaufikkurrohman8869]

Or maybe a Rock human. Because Araki is allergic to mangoes just like a rock human

[@Toastman30K]

Norisuke only looks suspicious because Araki's style makes everyone look suspicious

[@stzechmagenta1340]

Reminds me of that meme "We should be cautious, the stand user could be anyone" and then proceed to show the most obviously detailed design character ever

[@eebu4053]

why you gotta be such a sussy baka

[@robertlupa8273]

When everyone is sus, noone is.

[@VioletLunaVirgo]

Rohan: *writes the ability to know where Kira is* Target: "He's on Earth, most likely Japan, Moriah"

[@kochuskolbaskoi]

Useful 😎🤟

[@SubjectSigma18]

Duwang

[@Kiruma_Tatsuki]

@@SubjectSigma18 chew

[@sonetagu1337]

You kniw you blend well with society that even Rohan's ability only stated "most likely" where you are

[@shinji391]

Morioh. Learn to spell.

[@remixtheidiot5771]

Your explanation for Koichi learning Italian as him literally having anime subtitles is hilarious. This may or may not be the case, but that's my headcanon from now on.

[@ariesdemiurge]

I mean we are talkin' Rohan's stand here.

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

@@ariesdemiurge The only counterargument towards the anime subtitle theory is actually this precisely. Does it go against his honour as a mangaka to create what is essentially _dubbed anime?_ Did it cause him great pain to do so? Did he mutter complaints to himself about Jotaro's bad taste while doing it?

[@sonetagu1337]

@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 he (rohan) forgor 💀 This is very devastating 😭

[@HappyDayZ0]

It doesn't make too much sense though, if he doesn't know Italian how could he hear it and know the Japanese equivalent?

[@marianarodriguezrive]

@@HappyDayZ0 EXACTLY DAWG. Holy shit I feel like I’m going crazy. I really like this guy’s videos but a lot of the time he just ends up creating some bullshit reasoning to why it makes sense. Example, Koichi learning Italian.

[@VideosTediososNoCanal]

10:29 we may not forget that Rohan also traveled to Italy, and he did before kochi, so we can presume that he studied and learned Italian, making it easy to transmit his knowledge through heaven's door

[@n00bplayer72]

People really do seem to get hung up on the concept of a Bound Stand (stands that inhabit real, tangible objects/stands that work through real, tangible material) I always see comments wondering if non-Stand users see Yukako as bald, Superfly as invisible and Shizuka as not invisible.

[@Stint45678]

or.... Half of Tonio's cooking.

[@titanium6737]

Ah yes, I remember when I saw JoJo memes and I thought "hahaha, great these are memes, if not they wouldn't have sense as an argument 🤣" and look where I ended up, watching an extra part of debunking JoJo fans theories lmao

[@justinjakeashton]

@@Stint45678 Invisible meatloaf.

[@marsouinmalin5598]

Yeah, they're just "spirits possessing objects", like Chucky or Regan McNeil who are spirits inhabiting objects and/or humans, so everyone can see their vessel.

[@tomruisseaux7795]

And Secco as naked

[@sleeperninja8923]

13:30 This reminds me of the funniest debunking you did, in which Jotaro is told his stand name is The World before Avdol goes "OH shit, sorry this one's taken. Your stand is Star Platinum" and somehow people took this meme video as a canonical event.

[@SubjectSigma18]

And thats how we know 3/5 of the jojo fandom have only watched jojo via memes or youtube videos

[@neoqwerty]

Also even IF that was real, the tarot is related to what it means for the user. The World is the card that symbolizes an accomplished goal. That's literally why Jotaro calls Star Platinum's time stop ability Star Platinum: The World. (Goes with The Star's meaning being a hopeful journey, too: with Star Platinum: The World, Jotaro's acknowledging that his journey was successfully completed.) (DIO's The World is inverted, coincidentally: the goal he wants is incomplete. Araki really gave everyone plot spoilers for tarot reading nerds just from the Stand names and which ones of them were enemies/inverted vs allies/upright)

[@enigmaperson4636]

It’s always nice to have someone explain something in jojo that does know things and helps probably some of us understand it more

[@danthegreat4053]

Hey its you

[@woowoo1372]

"someone that does know things" you mean someone who has read the series?

[@TBA968]

2:56 its funny how the anime creates "Araki forgots" completely absent in the manga (another example would be Diavolo crushing the scorpion made by Golden Experience).

[@mrreyes5004]

Honestly, a part of me thinks that the anime production team actually buys into a few of the invalid "Araki Forgots" and tried to fix what they thought were errors, only for it to turn out to not fix anything and in fact just cause more problems by unknowingly not sticking to the material.

[@Ghiaman1334]

So effectively, they're 'David Productions Forgot'

[@leaffinite2001]

Stuff like the scorpions doesnt bother me cuz its badass, lmao. And its not a huge deal since of course diavolo is immediately defeated anyway

[@Mcl_Blue]

Gotta love people that act all high and mighty and smug when stating incorrect information.

[@M_Feitosa7]

Yeah lol average jojo fan is like: "killer queen could have turned the floor into a bomb" "Killer queen could have used sheer heart attack against josuke"

[@tikalthewhimsicott2736]

Makes me sad that those kinds of people are in positions of power

[@GalacticMoblin]

The first one he pulls up is absolutely hilarious

[@Akaeru]

Basically the Dunning Kruger effect in action

[@07Tussin]

red herring: *exists* these people: Why was he hiding and why was this not explained? 😧

[@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate]

WHY IS THE OLD MAN HIDING BY SITTING IN PLAIN VIEW!? OMG ARAKI IS BAD AT EVERYTHING!!!

[@Anonymous-xq5cs]

no but fr jojo is the best, most complex, enjoyable, fun manga ever

[@grimreaper1655]

Some people so dum

[@woobgamer5210]

Part 4 is literally a part all about red herrings. Serial killer in town? well Angelo just died so surely its fine right? wait why are we focusing on this blonde dude?

[@frontfacingjoe9235]

Honestly watching these makes my day better because it reminds me that there are more stupid people than me out there.

[@TheMigratedItalian]

me: "nice argument senator why dont you back it up with a source" misinformed jojo fan:"MY SOURCE IS THAT I MADE IT THE FUCK UP"

[@sonetagu1337]

Oh my god somebody actually said that to me 💀

[@CT-1118]

@@sonetagu1337 Elaborate please, this sounds hilarious

[@Angenano]

12:20 'i saw in a roblox animation' and thats exactly why so much misinformation is present in the jojo fandom, people will literally look at a roblox animation and take it to heart. Fuck me.

[@TerribleWarden]

One day Hamon Beat will snap and just curse out the entire Jojo fandom for being absolutely dense

[@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384]

Or at Araki for the mini horses. BUT SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY! WHAT THE HELL ARAKI WHAT THE FUUUUCK!!!!

[@akunekochan]

the real Araki forgot was the friends we made along the way

[@mechajay3358]

What a Journey

[@SubjectSigma18]

What a wonderful world

[@Kiruma_Tatsuki]

@@SubjectSigma18 the true man’s world

[@TrueTrickster2016]

It truly has been a JoJolion experience.

[@SaltExarch]

Honestly, I think the "Stands are completely immune to everything but other Stands" is a general misconception stemming from people taking "only Stands can beat other Stands" waaay too literally. I always interpreted this statement as "only other Stands/Stand users who would be able to see a Stand would be able to take down a Stand directly". Like, sure, anyone could fight and damage a Stand with anything if they're solid, but imagine fighting a sometimes-intangible ghost you can't see with weird powers. Realistically a non-Stand user would have virtually no chance.

[@letsbetheawkwardkquorter7159]

I love the first guy, so high and mighty but so wrong. I see so many people make that same, "Araki is not a genius, so stop making him out to be," comment whenever I bring up how stupid the Araki forgot meme is. It baffles me how these people can claim fans are portraying Araki as a "genius" and that we should stop trying when it's simply a matter of looking surface level into the series. This information isn't buried behind interviews, or info books. It's shit the reader is told directly by the series, but it still flies so far above their heads.

[@chronic-joker]

just be glad it's not dragonball teir in terms of bad fandoms that can't process basic information at least hamon beats channel corrects and beats most of this stuff fast enough not to shape the fandom. if you want an example of how bad the db fandom is by comparison they unironicly think the abridged series can be used as a refreance in a debate and is a vailed source material and take on the characters and other people will defend them. they even think toriyama is functionally incapable of good writing and everything in z was has no intellect that's a terrible fandom.

[@callmeaweeb4169]

@@chronic-joker db abridged has done immeasurable and nigh permanent damage to the db community as a whole. It was funny growing up and seeing it but the abridged series has literally warped how some people view all db media.

[@charlsondemong4922]

he even mentioned to "look through reddit" FUCKING *REDDIT*

[@Akaeru]

@@charlsondemong4922 literally one of the most braindead of sites

[@woobgamer5210]

@@callmeaweeb4169 thats the fault of the fanbase, not team four star or the existence of abridged which is then funny when abridged does something right that DBZ actually did fucking stupidly terribly

[@vgamer4993]

Every time I see a new installment of this series, I feel an overwhelming sense of, *“ah shit, here we go again.”* I think at this point I’m going to turn Joseph’s clackers into a drinking game.

[@higginswalsan]

It absolutely amazes me how incapable some people are of thinking. Like just straight they cannot think. I know a guy personally who’s bought into many of these Araki forgots that literally just require thinking

[@najadamu2724]

I think there are a lot of people who just weren't taught proper reading comprehension in school.

[@higginswalsan]

@@najadamu2724 Based on my school experience, a lot of them just refused to learn.

[@NicksUniverseYT]

Ever since JJBA:ASBR got announced, I was so excited for all things JoJo. When this came out, I was STOKED

[@kallixo]

what's jjba:asbr

[@Glarstonk]

@@kallixo new playstation fighting game

[@leetri]

@@kallixo JJBA: All-Star Battle R. It's a remake of the 2013 Playstation game with new content, anime voice actors and colours, and more. This time the game will be on PC and Switch as well, so it's no longer Playstation exclusive.

[@Stint45678]

@@leetri Is it out yet?

[@leetri]

@@Stint45678 "Fall 2022", whatever that's supposed to be. Probably like November, that's usually when games come out.

[@zoiwill123]

Rohan most likely just wrote "X word in Japanese is Y in Italian" for several words on Koichi, basically giving Koichi a "translation dictionary" inside his brain. Which wouldn't break Heaven Door's logic.

[@Xenunnaki]

It's important to consider that Italian is a language that both Rohan and Koichi would have access to, Rohan probably even has a book for it in his library since he's been shown to travel abroad, it's not some mysterious information they're trying to discover like Kira's identity.

[@motorcycleman115]

Maybe he wrote in Koichi that he's really good at learning new languages

[@self-proclaimedanimator]

Man or Rohan just Taught Kochi Italian Italian ain't that hard even I am learning it

[@thewafflepan4538]

Koichi also had two years to learn it (specific dates not withstanding)

[@leaffinite2001]

He could just write "koichi will remember any italian translations correctly" and then have him read and italian-japanese translation book

[@cedevita-sensei1852]

Regarding on how Kira knew about Cinderella's saloon: in the fight agains Jotaro and Koichi it is clearly shown that Kira is well informed and has done his reaserch regarding the other stand users in morioh and their abilities. (for example he knew crazy diamond could heal) So I think its reasonable to assume he reaserched and knew about Cinderella and her ability as well.

[@96Vladek]

Not only that, he directly taunts Koichi during this arc, asking if he would call Yukako or Aya for help.

[@mrreyes5004]

JoJo "fans": Norisuke was suspiciously hiding but it was never explained! Norisuke: **Literally just casually relaxing by a river until he got caught up in a Stand fight.** Man, some "fans" must have access to some good drugs to somehow think there are mistakes like this. Smh.

[@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384]

Bold of you to assume that the human mind needs drugs to be that stupid.

[@Mortimer_RS]

Literally a "Dumbledore said calmly" moment "He was hiding" *standing casually*

[@kwebvin9939]

6:26 And even if Joseph was interested of that fact Joseph's hand is stuck on Kars's throat, which means we'll be retrieving the ultimate lifeform, which would be BAD

[@chronic-joker]

the Italian language bit would make more sense as Rohan simply writing the entire Italian to Japanese dictionary into koichi, or him just writing all of his own Italian into him since rohan does seem to be able to understand it himself if we use the these spoke series as examples of him already knowing the language.

[@awkwardcultism]

This doesn't make sense to me, a dictionary is ridiculously long and memorizing it won't let you speak Italian on its own. It seems much more likely to me that he wrote something like "Learns languages very quickly" and had Koichi study Italian for a short period of time.

[@chronic-joker]

@@awkwardcultism rohan can write very fast it would only take a few hours for someone like him to do something like that.

[@Faith_Pride]

@@awkwardcultism Rohan kept up with the deadlines while MiH was active

[@goji8755]

It’s always a good day when hamon beat uploads

[@Amphobossztbg]

Facts

[@DarkOminigiri]

Amen

[@svsmlegends702]

Insert the one meme of the guy in pajamas then the suit, wedding day:hamon beat video

[@ayat5105]

Not true, its always a good week

[@tobigrantlbart]

What a fun Father-in-Law story: "Hey Johnny? Remember when you thought I tried to kill you just because I sat near the water?"

[@jacobwansleeben3364]

Reminds me of when my 'mother' thought I was going to kill my younger brother because I was standing outside of the bathroom while he was using the shower.

[@woobgamer5210]

@@jacobwansleeben3364 your mom: oh my god my child is going to kill his brother you: hurry up bro i need to piss

[@adampelletier7102]

A deep dive on all the mechanics of Hamon would be interesting. Though also curious on how the crossbow bolt carried Joesph's Hamon, though I'm probably just misremembering and it's a wooden bolt.

[@brokenursa9986]

We see Joseph earlier in that fight coating a hammer with oil so it will channel and retain Hamon. He probably just coated the crossbow ball with oil offscreen.

[@R.O.T.C._SEEM]

It wasn't a arrow but a steel ball with oil on it. It carried ac small trace of Hamon in it

[@chronic-joker]

it didn't really have hamon it just hit really hard.

[@hyperdarktoonlink]

@@ironicjason257 Cars said to Lisa Lisa: "...they are heavy enough to damage Wamu"

[@BygoneT]

@@hyperdarktoonlink Kars also isn't able to notice Joseph's tricks, so it's not surprising he couldn't see Joseph used hamon with oil on the steel ball. The anime shows the hole in Wamoo's torso pretty well and it's a hamon wound, Kars was simply thinking Joseph didn't do anything strange to the ball so the weight was the only menace in his mind.

[@papabones8753]

The "Koichi learning Italien" could also be that Heaven's Door evolved, it did have an A in developmental potential. Just something I'd like to point out: Stands do improve, I would guess HD could increase its ability to affect more stuff.

[@-frost-3425]

I'd love a "Jojo information" for the 1st of April where you actually just say random things with no real facts

[@skarletsimp]

I can’t believe that there’s a part four 😳

[@CrustyFox87]

Mista ain't gona like that (I misspelled "gonna" on purpose)

[@skarletsimp]

@@CrustyFox87 😂

[@C4puch]

When I saw this in my notification i audibly laughed thinking about how stupid jojo fans are

[@nicko4546]

Part 847493947 gonna come out cus all hamon beat does is to make his whole KZbin channel base around 3 of shucks vidoes

[@robertlupa8273]

JoJo anime: _part X never_ JoJo Debunking Araki Forgot: _part X soon_

[@sausagethegodofcurry]

I can just picture Josuke punching Joseph's hand with crazy diamond, and suddenly a fucking skeleton hand flies onto him. Like, oh wow, i got my long dead rotten skeleton hand back that's useful. Let's go fight Kira.

[@cobaltprime9467]

4:45 Also, I think it’s because they’re descended from Jonathan. Koichi’s family isn’t. If Koichi got his stand when he’s older and had kids, they would likely get Stands. But not any nieces or nephews he would have through his sister. But yeah the Jostars are already special. 12:20 How can no one understand this? It’s told to us. Hmmm perfect sphere dents in the rock? This Italian dude uses a steel ball like a gunslinger. Nah couldn’t be related.

[@Hamon_Beat]

Weather and Pucci both got stands through this method and they are not descendants. The difference comes from the psychic link.

[@cobaltprime9467]

@@Hamon_Beat forgot about that never mind

[@kevdaman7371]

wait the whole all the joestars got a stand stick, didn't that happen cause of the distress signal from jonathan's body? oh dear it sounds like i'm making stuff up

[@QuietBorb]

@@kevdaman7371 yes that "distress signal" is the joestar's psychic tomfuckery

[@iamthecheese6333]

In the case of Weather and Pucci, I think its because they are twins that gives them a special link since they are suppose to mirror one another, even if they aren't identical.

[@Nagasakevideo]

People talk about koichi's family not getting a stand, and seem to forget that he wasn't even meant to have one. He would have died if Josuke didn't save him, and he really cheated the system. I always assumed that, because he wasn't destined to get a stand that's the reason why his stand changes so much while most other people stay the same, because the psychic energy is trying to take form without any blueprint to work off of.

[@willropa4226]

Weeeell, Hamon Beat does clear this scene up in another video. Koichi was worthy of a stand, why he was dying was because of the arrow shot into his throat, any way you slice that it's a pretty deadly wound, it'd be pretty amazing if someone could walk that off without help (Which does make me wonder how Kira managed to do that . . . huh). You are right though in Reverb/Echoes' evolutions, stands embody a person's will and fighting spirit, Koichi in the beginning was fairly meek, leaving Reverb not a lot to go off of, but at the end he was kicking butt and taking names, giving Reverb enough juice to evolve 3 times.

[@woobgamer5210]

@@willropa4226 let's not forget if it wasnt for Koichi, Kira would have won. Sure it was a team effort but it was 3 Freeze that let Jotaro reach Kira in time by making Kira's gravity so strong on his hand he couldnt activate Bites the Dust

[@kamiloalvarez5800]

"please do look through reddit first to mention all araki´s fails" "R E D D I T"

[@Iron_Gov]

Bro of course the guy stating that someone else is so obviously wrong with complete confidence uses reddit as a source

[@Gues21ng]

I love these DAF (debunking Araki forgot) videos, please keep doing these.

[@agoosewithaphone7102]

For the Koichi thing, it's also worth noting that he was never supposed to get a Stand in the first place and would have just died if not for Josuke, so that probably had some bearing on his family members not awakening Stand powers.

[@CadeDubsOG]

4:40 That's like why non-stand users could see Strength, it's not the stand itself but a physical object (a fighing boat) that was affected/modified by the stand. Ghiacco and Secco weren't running around naked either, even though that'd have been hilarious.

[@kenji6492]

Rohan probably wrote: Koichi is a prodigy at learning Italian. This would let him pick up the language super quickly without inventing new information from nothing.

[@puppieslovies]

I believe Araki make Koichi's Italian speaking intentionally vague. I think the stand shouldn't be able to auto translate every language, since that would probably introduce new information and you could argue that Rohan would then also be able to manipulate it into giving unknown locations as well One very possible explanation is that Rohan could simply copy his own memory of the language into Koichi, or even take someone else's, as the stand was introduced with that ability specifically.

[@woobgamer5210]

That or he wrote into Koichi 'I can learn other languages quickly' and gave him some italian to study and boom, he can speak it

[@umihoshi2595]

3:19 Dio himself mentions at the end of PB that it was because he acknowledged Jonathan. In his own twisted way, he was paying his respects to Jonathan by choosing his body as the one most worthy to replace his own.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

"Even if it were possible, I don't think Joseph would be all that interested in being healed, since he seems to enjoy having a cool robot hand to begin with." I am pretty sure the overwhelming majority of Jojo fans would ALSO enjoy having a cool robot hand, so it utterly baffles me that they never thought of this possibility.

[@KuonilerariLoufanwald]

Why didn't Rohan use Heaven's Door to read Jotaro's mind to find out why he didn't use Star Finger

[@ddragonvic]

10:12 I do see the validity in your chosen case here, but the reasoning you chose does put emphasis on heaven's door bending reality around koichi's speaking when a more mundane 'I asked Rohan to make it so that I can...' could be koichi asking rohan to write an ease of understanding of the language, letting koichi learn it himself faster. Stand's are shown to be limited a bit by the mental state of the user, so maybe Rohan's integrity as an author limits him inventing things in that would be fully improbable.

[@eboloid3192]

"You need prolonged contact to conduct hamon trough metal" Random dude: "Hmm I see, so metal doesn't conduct Hamon"

[@sachyas]

to add to that rohan part, in the anime koichi had no clue why josuke was so pissed when people insulted his hair, and it was shown to be *new* information that he learned after josuke kicked his ass. rohan himself states this. it isn't possible for heaven's door to just write or implant something wholly new into a person. if rohan wrote " koichi knows why josuke gets pissed when his hair is insulted " it clearly wouldn't have worked. it's new information, and as stated & shown, he's unable to do that.

[@emilianoj1591]

A topic I saw no one talk about: the religious symbolism and themes of Part 5. There are a lot of them, like a lot

[@TheDigitalApple]

Harmon Beat can write a full novel about disproving Araki forgots!

[@HayatoStarGod]

Hamon Beat will write his scientific article after getting his JoJo PhD

[@HayatoStarGod]

"And that's all the new Araki Forgots topics for now" Famous last words

[@ProjektTaku]

Also about naoko. Her soul wasn't completely gone, as her pages still had her memories, even if they were fading. And it is shown that if someone's soul is still barely clinging on, they can be brought back, like joseph in part 3 with SP, hayato with crazy diamond, and bruno with gold experience. The thing a stand can't bring back to life is a soul, which is why josuke couldn't revive his grandfather, because his soul passed on already, and crazy diamond can't restore souls. The only stand that slightly bends this rule is limp bizkit, but that just implants soul energy into things, like gold experience.

[@fields_of_regret]

Man the one about the holes in part 7 is just baffling holy shit, I think the people who asked didn't pay attention or didn't remember right but then didn't want to read again I guess?

[@Stint45678]

To be fair, part 7 makes me lose around 69% of my brain cell.

[@grimreaper1655]

Fr whoever typed that mad stupid

[@CLAYTERRACOTTA]

It will never cease to amaze me how Hamon Beat had enough material to make FOUR of these. I wanna bet real money the Araki Forgot Extras series will end up being longer than Araki Forgot.

[@silverslayer6262]

13:34 Or the fans forgetting to carefully read the manga. (Really, some of the misconceptions are debunked in a single piece of dialogue that’s apparently only in the manga)

[@AnarchoCatBoyEthan]

I appreciate you structuring these videos in a way that allows me to watch them without entirely spoiling the rest of the manga for me. I’m almost done with Stone Ocean, and then i think i’ll start reading the manga.

[@janaxelblomberg7768]

You should make a series around times that “DP forgot”, where scenes were either left out or altered which made inconsistencies in the anime, leading to people making up Araki Forgot moments because they’re too illiterate or lazy to read the manga

[@0Chino13]

Guess this is a fan forgot, check the videos called "anime differences" or something

[@allahachu]

oh no! i guess i'm illiterate and lazy for actually appreciating the soundtrack, sound effects, voice acting, consistent colors, the animation itself, the visuals, a better understanding of king crimson's ability, etc provided to me by the anime unlike the manga!

[@leaffinite2001]

​@Grobar yeah but if, hypothetically, you saw something incorrect in the anime itd take at most like 5 minutes to check the manga or ask about it online instead of just assuming its a fact and complaining about it

[@pikminman13]

I'm somewhat grateful for all of these questions, if anything it exposes the care Araki put into making this to leave no stone unturned and have it all match up no matter how weird or unnecessary it is.

[@cerberos1]

For heaven's door I think he can't write "I know the location of Kira" but he can write "I know Kira is at this restaurant" or something like that Basically he can put thought in people's minds but he can't create them out of nowhere So for Koichi he probably wrote actual Italian words in him and their translation

[@futurestrongestman]

Nah, he most likely gave koichi the ability to learn italian quickly. Either that, or he gave koichi a very fast learning speed.

[@silversonome5360]

I think the bloodline-stands have a way easier answer here. When Dio was pierced by the arrow, all of Jonathan's *descendants* were granted a stand. Koichi, a teenage boy, doesn't have any descendants, so his bloodline has no psychic potential emanating and resonating from him

[@pastaman7278]

I feel like it would be funny, if koichi came back to Morioh and no one understood him since he was speaking Italian

[@demi-femme4821]

I mean, Rohan KNOWS Italian. Heaven's Door being able to impart knowledge Rohan already has doesn't seem too far-fetched.

[@it6647]

0:48-Hamon's limitations 1:57-Part 2 vampires 2:40-Kars' ankle blades 3:07-WHY didn't DIO take Jonathan's body in particular 3:48-Nijimura's father's transmutation 4:32-Aqua necklace's visibility 5:11-Family members getting stands through arrows 5:59-WHY didn't Josuke fix Joseph's hand 6:30-How did Kira know about Æa 7:04-Tracking Kira's fingerprints 7:43-Using arrows on Morioh folks 8:42-Using Heaven's door to find Josuke's cheat 9:03-Using Enigma again 9:30-Using Heaven's Door to locate Kira 10:41-TSKR Naoko's daughter revival 11:17-Stand-Object interaction 12:00-SBR's GYRo's holes in rock 12:42-Norisuke in a silent wæ

[@ankylo5550]

Gosh I'm so glad I was here for the release of one of these these are so great

[@barneyeldinosaurio740]

10:25 *It's also worth noting that Rohan Himself can speak and write italian, So it isn't an unknown information. Knowledge anyways.*

[@loshtrimpo8781]

About Joseph's hand, Josuke could have definitely healed it because his blood wasn't part of him anymore but it could still be fixed to itself. I really like the idea of Joseph liking his metal hand though and it makes sense because it helped him in the Empress fight

[@TheMangakid1995]

Alternate plausible explanation for Koichi learning a new language: Rohan spent several hours painstakingly writing the entire contents of a Japanese to Italian dictionary in Koichi because he likes him that much and he wanted him to have fun on vacation.

[@kevdaman7371]

that sounds like actual torture

[@TheMangakid1995]

@@kevdaman7371 For Koichi or Rohan? lol Maybe he could just glue the pages straight from the book into Koichi and save time that way lol

[@SubjectSigma18]

@@kevdaman7371 rohan*

[@LEONOX233]

About Hamon, water itself is also a good conductor for hamon, as Jonathan explains when he unleashes the Turquoise Overdrive, what is explained again when Caesar and Joseph create the rope out of falling ice spikes by conducting hamon in the water between the spikes. That is also shown when multiple characters are able to walk on water by creating ripples or manipulate its shape with their fingers, like in Loggins and Messina introduction. And lastly, humans are able to channel hamon bc of their bloodstream that is mostly water, and as all life forms have a considerate ammount of water in their composition, that's what makes organic materials like the rose a good conductor for hamon in the first place. And bc it's the JoJo fandom "why Joseup used oil instead of water if it's so good of a conductor?" well, Idk but if you try to coat something with water it tends to dry up rather quickly, so it would be shit to make something retain the charge for a long period of time, unlike the oil.

[@kujojotarostandoceanman2641]

For every Araki forgot video, Hamon Beat lose a part of trust with humanity

[@comfyghost]

a thing to note about the line where koichi says he asked rohan to make it so he could speak italian, it's actually cut off at the word can, including in the official translation, so we have reason to believe he was going to say something specific that rohan did, but realised he was talking to someone who likely didn't know what stands are, and should probably cut himself off

[@lukesapotao8259]

I'm still waiting for someone saying that Speedwagon mentioning Florence Nightingale in the english dub of part 1 is a dropped plotpoint and araki forgot placing her in subsequent parts

[@Tokio2425]

Dear God this is the only series on KZbin I simultaneously love watching and want to end as soon as possible. JUST READ THE SHIT PEOPLE

[@StephenDurnan]

12:17 "I saw it in a Roblox part 7 animation" Bro💀💀💀

[@dujhauni513]

Hamon Beat: "Kira was watching Aya's store beforehand..." I'm wondering if that was intended or not.

[@BearWith_You]

I always hate when people point out Jotaro saying no Stand can bring back the dead. Jotaro is one guy who hardly knows EVERY Stand. What if Jotaro is just wrong?

[@Dannyillo962]

I love how informative these videos are, but I also love how hard you roast people lol

[@Anonymous-xq5cs]

hes a degenerate with a porn addiction

[@Xenunnaki]

Misinformation: Star Platinum is the ghost of Jonathan, and Stone Free is the ghost of Kakyoin

[@z-v-x8324]

That just sounds like someone's headcanon they spread around like fact

[@Voc_spooksauce]

The only similarity i can see with Kakyoin are the strings, but he has 0 relations to the Joestars, how would that be a thing ? The Jonathan one at least has the fact he is a Joestar to back it up, even tho it's not the case

[@Xenunnaki]

@@Voc_spooksauce I see people point out the sunglasses even though they're different, as well as how the metal strips on the face pass down through each eye, matching the scars given to Kakyoin by Geb.

[@ruben0222]

I feel like if Rohan wrote that someone knows Kira’s location, it would probably work as they believe they know but couldn’t actually give any specifics about it.

[@jakehutson6158]

Hallelujah! An episode where no one brings up the godforsaken clackers!!!

[@Voc_spooksauce]

Got real close tho

[@iannijimura3608]

11:40 I believed that the reason why Ebony Devil was able to damage Silver Chariot, was because the Stand was infused into the doll and the weapons that he brought with him. that's why the cut with his knife could hurt him but later a broken bottle did not affect his shoulder

[@parkouremaster]

I always found sense in the sword infused with hamon, even if wasn't explained, Hamon was always depicted as electricity, a Hamon user is basically someone who can use the energy of the sun to generate electricity reason why makes sense metal is affected since metal conduct electricity.

[@Voc_spooksauce]

Yeah basically, Hamon doesn't work exactly like electricity, bust 90% of the time that's all you need to say to explain certain things they do

[@CloutmasterPhluphyy]

Yeah hamon is like electricity, a bit of magnetism, some blood flow, breathing, and sunlight martial arts all in 1 so checks out

[@SubjectSigma18]

@@CloutmasterPhluphyy this is why I love Araki's imagination Basically mixing 4 things that dont connect with each other

[@DripBox07]

it's 9:06 pm and this video made me want to re watch all of jojo, so i am thankyou for giving me motivation to revisit parts 1-5 (i have no netflix :(. )

[@zombieman998]

have you considered adding chapters to your Debunking Araki Forgot videos that describe and timestamp each individual topic? might help people to skim through them for topics to see if they've been covered or not. i don't know how hard those are to add, and i'm sure you'd get plenty of repeat suggestions anyway, but i figured i'd suggest that since people probably don't want to watch or rewatch every video before making a suggestion.

[@holehorse6838]

Hi I am from 2080. Just saying huge fan of the series on espically debunking araki forgot extras part 80

[@wheresprototype3507]

Also if josuke could restore Joseph's hand it would also bring/pull back, Kars to earth and end the entire series, nevermind I was wrong

[@Voc_spooksauce]

Wait, did Joseph's stand stay stuck to Karz's neck when he got to space? I thought it was separated on the way

[@wheresprototype3507]

@@Voc_spooksauce wasn't Joseph's hand that propelled Kars faster into the sky and preventing him from using his wings, and then Joseph got a your next line moment, I'm pretty sure it was stuck on his neck since it logged into it pretty hard for it to bleed

[@R.O.T.C._SEEM]

@@wheresprototype3507 No that was rocks

[@wheresprototype3507]

@@R.O.T.C._SEEM oh really? Huh, I always thought the hand never got dislodged. But I guess that makes sense, I wonder where it ended up going, is it drifting or did it land on a planet? Also if it could be healed how long would it take to get back to earth

[@nikami6178]

Besides, it would take ages for Joseph's hand to come back to Joseph since it's been floating in space for 60 or so years.

[@uncannychmkn8188]

I did not expect this, but I am not disappointed

[@syouji185]

12:20 "Source?" "I found it in a Roblox animation" 💀

[@pizzweak580]

I'm glad these exist. If you did this with stuff like One Piece, I'd watch that for days

[@singletona082]

OK. Now.. 'things that Araki could have done better.'

[@Ironwolf-pm7zs]

My brother was one of these requests, and he came up to me and said "Hamon Beat just called me an idiot."

[@IPODsify]

Don't know why so many people think stands are immune to physical damage, did you forget that mista's bullets are just normal bullets?

[@jrs4753]

7:44 "Bro, I found this rusty arow outside. I'm gonna stab myself with it. Maybe something good will happen"

[@ValentinNeacsu99]

I think some people just look at the pictures and dont read the manga

[@Voc_spooksauce]

That probally is the case

[@press8704]

I’ve never even thought about the timing between DIO’s death and the Nijimuras’ father getting gooped before. Neatly!

[@elijahstubel5288]

Fans point out that Rohan could’ve wrote an entire dictionary into Koichi, but that would never explain Koichi understanding the grammar, pronunciation, and possibly slang of Italian. So it’s far more likely that he wrote “learns languages extremely quickly and efficiently” into Koichi.

[@MilkJugA_]

Kars' ankleblade was a close call.

[@EmmaBonn96]

10:34 So Koichi was watching the Japanese dub

[@jcsan7134]

In the heavy weather arc, when pucci finds Weather and annasui, he uses whitesnake even though he has already fused with the green baby and whitesnaked had presumably evolved into c-moon.

[@Hamon_Beat]

Whitesnake gradually evolved into C-Moon the closer he got to Cape Canaveral

[@jcsan7134]

Well that makes sense