Debunking the Difficulty - Silver Surfer (NES)

Silver Surfer is one of those NES games of perceived legendary difficulty, but with a little bit of practice and a levelheaded approach, you can make mincemeat out of this game pretty easily.
Starship Hector has a health bar and is still harder than this game. And then Super R-Type makes this game look like child's play!
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[@BionicIguana]

This game is easy, all you have to do is not make a single mistake for the entire game!!

[@deoxysandmew2162]

@@PolishTamales oh i imagine. The muscle memory doesnt grow on trees

[@aztro.99]

@@deoxysandmew2162 yeah its actually a tuber like potatoes so it grows underground :)

[@davidm4566]

That is good advice for any game!

[@unchi1999]

Still better than freaking GTA 3 thats for sure

[@fluoriteheals]

EXACTLY LMAO. This game sux balls! They ruined an awesome marvel superhero who is virtually indestructible!

[@cornfritterjones5349]

It’s not so hard, just run across a WW1 battlefield during a full artillery barrage for a hour and never let so much as a clump of dirt hit you. What’s so hard about that!

[@wokeupinapanic]

What makes it easier is that you can shoot the clumps of dirt before they hit you 😂

[@cornfritterjones5349]

@@wokeupinapanic can’t argue with that.

[@mikeallison5549]

I know!!! It’s just running.

[@bryanvickers]

And don't forget to constantly be tapping furiously for an hour without stopping.

[@mikeallison5549]

@@bryanvickers well in world war 1 they didn’t have the turbo button on their weapons.

[@sombat2788]

Marvel: "Cosmic primordial Galactus, Eater of Worlds" Ryu: "Weird guy in a sex party mask"

[@benbeesley4277]

i laughed so hard at that

[@grumpus_hominidae]

Yes! LMFAO!

[@jimbeam275]

Best comment I’ve seen in awhile

[@blake9439]

I came looking for this comment instantly 🤣

[@SinistarsHunger]

Silver Surfer, Sky Rider of the Spaceways, Herald to Weird Guy in a Sex Party Mask.

[@Dr.UldenWascht]

"Just don't die. It's that easy." - Ryukahr, 2022 4:05

[@KeRmiTaKilla]

Bingo came here to say this but knew someone would beat me lol

[@mohamadmnala8219]

@@KeRmiTaKilla.

[@SilhSe]

Famous last words

[@nupurakter5820]

@@SilhSe h toj

[@johnmarcus8864]

It's dat Ez folks!

[@JetBen555]

AVGN: *_I can't touch that RED POT ??_* 😂😂

[@andy02q]

I remember once I read a strategy guide for a sidescroller I never owned and the author was like "The last boss is really beefy. Depending on how many powerups you collected this fight will talr between 5 and 10 minutes. If you didn't collect any at all, then prepare to be fighting all night long until the morning." I don't remember which game though.

[@theimortal1974]

a lot of powerup games are like that. one i've experienced personally is the arcade game sidearms. if you are transformed with the weapon you can only get by shooting the powerup a ton of times (star) then the levels are easy and then for the bosses i use the laser which cheeses just about everything. the final boss is either hard and takes a continue or two or easyish easy. if you have the full power up and the lazer then it's easy but still the hardest one in the game. i once beat the game on one quarter and it felt so *#$%ing good when i saw a score of over a million when i destroyed the final boss.

[@SealyTheSeal]

Besides this, maybe Battletoads or Contra? Or any shoot em up game now that I think of it.

[@dolanpls3330]

Street Fighter 2010?

[@criscocristianson]

"Just don't die, it's that easy " best legendary quote ever lol

[@theimortal1974]

it almost reminds me of the quote "get gud"

[@minikawildflower]

You will never debunk how hard the music slaps though

[@osurpless]

Especially this remix! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3ZZWiopp2rhs0

[@grillburgerdaq5121]

I’ve never known a game that is so hard without power ups. If you die at any time and lose your power ups, it’s miserable.

[@MinaAngura]

Gradius as a whole. Late game deaths are minimum a complete level restart just from losing your movement powerups. Its like there was an unwritten rule in ye olde days that horizontal shmups had to be agonizing to play.

[@CoralCopperHead]

@@MinaAngura Hey, they were still running on Coin-Op logic without considering whether or not there were even any coins to be fished out of players' pockets.

[@JJ-et7il]

Like someone already mentioned, Gradius is the game that you've never played then 🤣

[@slushyglue9167]

@@CoralCopperHead rental store logic

[@osurpless]

@@MinaAngura Yep, and unlike Silver Surfer as noted, Gradius doesn’t give you much powerups in the final stages. And those arm golems? Ugh…

[@passionoflovers]

"This is Silver Surfer... Silver Shit.."

[@figment7890]

I remember this being the first extraordinarily hard game series it was awesome

[@Peter_1986]

It is very difficult in the sense that it is _definitely not_ the kind of game that you just casually beat in a few tries, simply because there are a ton of situations that are all about memorisation - and even when you have memorised every part of the game, you still have to have decent enough reflexes to be able to react to everything. So you could say that it "isn't too bad" from that perspective.

[@daviddamasceno6063]

Most things that kill you in this game are stuff you don't even know are there or are too fast to dodge on reflex. And since death takes away all your power ups pretty much means that you must memorize the entire game.

[@newerest1]

"it's not hard all you have to do is play the game so much you memorize it"

[@peelsreklaw]

That's kinda how a lot of NES games were though. You'd play them from the start many, many times before tasting the sweetness of the credits.

[@jackknife4547]

Life BEFORE smart phones🤗

[@deoxysandmew2162]

Kinda like dragon's lair. Bad choice results in death until you memorize all right choices, its easy.

[@Rhino-n-Chips]

@@newerest1 You know how many people say this shit unironically? It's infuriating, they really spend hours doing one section repeatedly, then claim they got there trough "skill". I can trash a lot of hard games, but I can admit that they suck when they have trial and error as a difficulty crutch.

[@shawnbenson9694]

I was a little surprised by the green elephant heads in the final level that are clearly being hung by the skin of their faces while it's slowly being ripped off, exposing their skulls...

[@Ss4Goten]

Awesome. This series and the extraordinarily hard games one are my favorites.

[@mbagle]

I been checking this channel through out the week to see the newest Debunking video. I am glad to see a new video uploaded. LOVE them.

[@ianbraun271]

You should subscribe and activate notifications.

[@mattb6522]

Lots of interesting quotes in this one 🤨: 3:55 "I will destroy absolutely everything in my path." 8:04 "Just in case a pumpkin tries to come up your butt." 20:41 "See that guy? Right in his mouth. Yeah. He likes it." ~ Ryukahr, 2022

[@theonlymegumegu]

24:37 "You got this weird white goop coming down..." musta been that guy in the weird sex mask

[@mattb6522]

@@theonlymegumegu Aw, man. I forgot that one, too! 🤣

[@samyazaazazyel7701]

He's trying to lick your goods 2:45 ish

[@theonlymegumegu]

you know I'm thinking more and more that Ryu was completely right about the sex party...

[@alexanderlindley197]

14:57 "Got a weird erect pillar"

[@endymallorn]

“Just don’t die”. That’s far easier said than done.

[@markellzey1531]

Sage advice there.....Just don't die and you'll be fine.

[@jamesmarkham9464]

Haha the fact he doesn't know who galactus is... good vid ryu!

[@outcast170]

Who all was it? Silver Surfer, Fantastic 4, and a view conflicts with Spiderman and Thor? Probably a few others that dedicated fans would know... I was never big on any of them and still recognize a NES Galactus. Ryu deserves at least a little shaming for missing that one.

[@ryukahr]

Lol I have zero knowledge of Silver Surfer lore

[@avocahdo2269]

@@outcast170 Weirdest thing is Mr. Sinister being the final boss

[@CarlosElDiablo1774]

That creepy Galactus dude, stalker of worlds.

[@Jeremycook_]

@@CarlosElDiablo1774 devourer of worlds

[@endlessoul]

Love this series! Ryu is extraordinarily good at making hard games look painless.

[@terence7009]

maybe not this one though. I could feel that carpal tunnel just watching.

[@Jambr380]

Great series and psyched you actually finish all of the games. That was the one thing that irked my with extraordinarily hard games. Well done!

[@SlayerRunefrost]

The thing that always pissed me off about this game is that Silver Surfer is suppose to be one of the most powerful mfs in the entirety of Marvel but ONE hit takes hime out? Wielder of the power cosmic but a one lick from a damn frog kills him. I mean there's just two things TWO THINGS that would have made this a pretty good game. A health bar and holding the button to shoot.

[@ItsMrBozToYou]

Must be that frog with the power of Thor.

[@SlayerRunefrost]

@@ItsMrBozToYou but SS would stomp Thor's ass.

[@josephhughes3120]

OMG!!!!! Finally. I have been waiting for you to play this game since you started this series!!! That is the one I could NEVER seem to beat. This is amazing.....

[@spyderman312]

Anybody remember when Ryu got absolutely destroyed by this game in his hard games series? Pepperidge Farm remembers

[@Collin255]

This series has been very entertaining, hope you keep at it!

[@juliusreigns4218]

I will never look at Galactus again without thinking "Creepy dude in a sex mask" ahaahah! Ryu had me rolling!

[@OttoBittoSplatoon]

Thank you, Ryu! I couldn't even overcome a single section of a stage prior to your video, but now I have finally beaten this game! 😍 As a suggestion for future episodes, I'd love to see some other Contra games, like The Alien Wars and Hard Corps, Castlevania III, or of course some other insanely hard NES game like Battletoads 😂

[@JBKiser]

I still would love somehow to see a crossover/cameo by AVGN in one of these. AVGN is replaying an old game and complaining about how hard it is. Then Ryu comes in, debunks the difficulty, AVGN acts like it's not so bad, and then changes his mind and still calls it a pile of rat turds or whatever. Just the groundwork idea.

[@kennethd4958]

Love this series. Love your commentary... has made me go back and revisit some of these 8bit games (I usually stay in 16bit land) that gave me issues when I was young and would rent a game and be stuck with it all weekend lol

[@crunchsixfoe]

As far as shmups go, this one is easy. Use a turbo controller first like Ryu said.

[@hatendiscontent]

Possessor looks like Hitman Hart.

[@MistyKathrine]

1:10 That's probably why I thought this game was easy when I was like 5 or 6 because that's how little kids play games, you just never stop shooting and it works out in a game like this.

[@TheGamerCasual]

Another great video Ryu .. Would love to see you do Back To The Future 1, 2 & 3 series on the NES ;)

[@lizzydakid]

always been in awe of how you pull these off

[@EirMikah]

Thank you for your video, Ryu! I would love to see you debunking the difficulty of Battletoads.

[@unhappimess]

So after watching you DtD I decided to rewatch AVGN’s playthrough and laughed my ass off. We need to see your rendition of ‘sad’ Silver Surfer. 😂

[@TheWonkster]

I mean Bootsy could beat it too, just because some people are really good at video games doesn't mean it was cool of them to charge $50 (over 100 when adjusted for inflation) for a game no average person with a reasonable amount of free time could play long enough to be fun.

[@joe_newdawn]

2:43 love that Yoshi SFX. Nice little edit!

[@froggimusprime8255]

Killin it dude, thanks for another cool vid.

[@geoffreyclark7513]

TLDR: You guys this game isn't hard. Just never die.

[@supernintendosp]

Next up on Ryu Grumps: The entire Touhou series. Seriously though, well done, Ryu. Your chill attitude makes these hard games look like a ton of fun.

[@elvispressplay7735]

I want to see Ryu do Top Gun just so I can see if there's ever anything interesting about Top Gun.

[@maurice5726]

I love your channel man I was looking for like this kind of content cause I'm addicted to retro and 8-bit world

[@jonbull7363]

They didn’t have to test the final boss because you’re the only person to make it that far.

[@PDIcomics]

What about Bootsy?

[@Kyrieru]

Glad I have another mainstay channel to look forward to.

[@onatgz]

each time you say "firelord" and not continue with "ozai" appa gets sad and cries =(

[@7Wounds]

I truly love this series. Also these music on this game was just bangers.

[@clintwilliams2685]

Just beat this game tonight. Your videos are helping me beat some of the hardest nes games. This game is hard but it’s not as hard as some make it out to be.

[@budgiecat9039]

I finished watching the cartoon series instead

[@Messiah_Black]

Rules to beating Silver Surfer: 1.) Commit the layout & obstacles of every level to memory, so you know what to expect in advance. 2.) Never die or lose your power ups. 3.) If by chance you do die & lose your power ups, reset the whole game and start again. Easy-peasy😏…

[@thatonedreamsomeonecrushed1912]

8:04 lol his innuendos are getting stronger

[@Peter_1986]

No seriously, this game _is_ extremely difficult, and I am saying this as someone who has beaten it several times without cheating - there is no getting around the undeniable fact that this game kicks people's asses over and over the first several hours, no matter how skilled those people are. But sure, you _can_ make the game _as manageable as possible._

[@mrbigjonstud]

dude, awesome video!!!, I failed hard at that game as a kid , will try it again with your tips :) thank goodness for emulators/ save states these days.

[@ig88killer]

That is the same music as the Ljn Wolverine game. Really takes me back. That is another "hard" game, but not too bad if you know what to do in each level.

[@TammyBlackMedia]

The infamous Silver Surfer, let’s go!

[@evorook463]

3:15 you seem like you've done this before...

[@footlonghawk3960]

Man I remember alot of these games in this debunk the difficulty series and never actually passed alot of them I'm glad I can watch it get owned by someone so I say now ty my good man you are doing God's work lol the rage I got as a kid is finally being relieved

[@outcast170]

Has he ever done Journey to Silius, Faxanadu, or Legacy of Wizard? I seem to remember beating Silius ONCE back in the day, Faxanadu and Legacy of the Wizard I never completed, but they were fun to play.

[@mikeytappe]

I hadn’t realize that you could trap the final boss like that!

[@osurpless]

Yep, I’ve beaten the game like 10 times, and probably because I followed Bootsy’s tips originally, I never put 2+2 together on that strat. While it is more crowd pleasing to dodge the projectiles, it’s not like the game doesn’t give you the powerups upon each death to sanction the strat…

[@fizz9698]

AVGN in shambles watchiing you play

[@pkimrey]

This is my new favorite series next to summoning salt speed runs.

[@rectalespionagesailboat4819]

I played a lot of NES games as a kid but honestly this channel is the only place I have ever heard of this game. I guess I was too busy being terrible at Megaman.

[@carlconstantdeflon2373]

YAY! Finally a new episode!

[@coco_rthritis6462]

I only know two things about this game -It's hard as hell -the music goes hard as hell

[@Joshhow]

It may take some time to get used to this game but at least you have a killer soundtrack to listen to. Tim Follin always made such wild tunes to listen to. I refer you to Solstice title theme (NES) and Pictionary (NES) for some more excellent Tim Follin music.

[@longtallshorty5791]

Gotta give credit to his brother Geoff, who also worked on this soundtrack.

[@JoshBattin]

Tim Follin is the NES sound chip's whisperer. Dude could make an NES sound like a full Synthesizer. (and Geoff)

[@thomasffrench3639]

He’s the GOAT, he was able to perfectly capture Thomas the Tank Engine theme on a SNES.

[@ButteredToast32]

“There’s a sexy naked statue there to distract you.” 😂

[@Glitch47278]

"This is actually an easy game" *knows exactly where every item and every enemy is going to be*

[@EsotericBibleSecrets]

A similar game for SNES called whip rush 2222 is pretty tough, even if keep all power ups. You need to change them in certain spots, you get lasers, missiles, and some stuff that lets you shoot in all directions. You need to memorize certain spots. That game is a lot harder then silver surfer.

[@adipurnomo6094]

9:26 i can't touch that red pot???😂

[@SgtBullmoose]

Watching this video gave me carpal tunnel syndrome...

[@charlieb8735]

Yeah I think I’d opt for the turbo if I was gonna give the game a shot

[@dawgeth321]

I'd love to see a debunking of Battletoads. Basically if it's really a matter of git gud or if there's some real tricks. Great series as always!

[@PoisonedAl]

Didn't he do that already? I might be thinking of Vargskelethor.

[@frozyre7854]

@@PoisonedAl He hasn't yet.

[@keithpanick2098]

I remember The Addams Family game being treacherous. I would love to see that one debunked........since I never beat it.

[@kenhammscousin4716]

Hell yes

[@christsuke873]

Yooo shout to this game for giving game time to Mephisto and Mr Sinister !!!

[@christsuke873]

Wait where is Mr Sinister?? What was the clay golem final boss thing ??? :/

[@rocksoliddude1]

I could never complete the game, but i could complete the Reptyl and Mephisto levels. A hard game, but not a game that was too hard or impossible, it just required practice. I liked Silver Surfer because it was exciting, it would have you on edge of seat the whole level.

[@johndewberryiii9925]

Nice gameplay my friend. You got me to take a second look at a lot of retro games. One personal fave that I feel is difficult is Magician Lord on Neo Geo. Have you played that one? I love the graphics and music infinite continues and the challenge it’s just such a slog to get through I have yet to beat it. I start getting tired usually around lvl 6 great content man

[@Bada4ever]

He didn't notice his score at the end of the game! 69~ Nice.

[@JellySword8]

Started playing this game and I've honestly been really disappointed with how easy it is. I beat all but the last stage on one playthrough (Used all of my continues though, and I failed a bunch before but still.). I'm young enough to have never played Contra so I think I'll try it next. Edit: So the "B" things are bombs, I was wondering what those did.

[@joltyr4025]

I played this game and defeated every level but never all 5 levels at the same time and never saw the 6th. NGL, when I heard you say this is not that hard, I thought "WTF did this guy say?" and then you casually one shot the whole game with full powerups and I was like "oh, this guy is a legend." I'm definitely going to try this strategy when I get a chance.

[@rufust33333333333333]

I love to see you debunk the difficulty of sim ant

[@canman87]

I actually like this game quite a bit, but that's probably because I put in the work to be able to beat it consistently, lol. I agree that starting Reptyl is crucial to setting yourself up for success; it's unquestionably the easiest series of levels in the game, although sometimes a stray bullet in the second section can get you due to their occasional difficulty in being spotted through all the background noise. Speaking of background noise, I haven't heard you touch on that yet (commenting as you're starting the Emperor levels), but that's one of the most trial and error elements of the game. The first time you go through any of the levels, it isn't always clear what you can pass through and what you can't so you're bound to lose some lives in the course of learning all that. What I eventually learned is that the rule of thumb is if you can't shoot through it, you will die if you touch it. But in the end, I agree with your strategy of not dying, lmao. There are so many spots in this game where having to start over with no powerups might as well be a reset, partly because certain spots can be almost barren of powerups, some just have too many strong enemies, and some spots are combinations of both. (Edit: you make this statement almost verbatim about a minute after I resumed the video, lmao.)

[@ghostly836]

I'm so close now to beating this nightmare of a game. I just need to master the last level. This video helped tremendously. Tonight might be the night

[@Chrisnohat]

Got a suggestion. You gotta cover “Jekyll and Hyde”. It needs to be in this playlist. ❤ your stuff. MM24EVR

[@tsimon8374]

He kind of inadvertently debunked Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde. He covered it in his Extraordinarily Hard Games series on his other channel, and beat the game in one video.

[@baldbro3693]

8:04 Unfortunate phrasing lol

[@Massacretalitor]

What's impressive is Bootsy beat this casually with several deaths over his playthrough. You can't really expect a beginner to go through the whole game without a single death, especially with a game like this.

[@realsunwave]

I tried playing Silver Surfer for the first time in years after watching Bootsy play through it so smoothly. He made it look easy; I got steamrolled.

[@chimpmasterflex]

Not to mention learning terrain, like what you could or couldn't bump into. Plus a beginner going to one of five stages makes things play out pretty differently. It's maybe not as hard as some people made it out to be, but idk if it'd call it easy either.

[@ThatOneDude219]

What ever happened to Bootsy? He only did like 2 episodes of Bootsy Beats

[@SoCalJellybean]

My god, your reflexes are INSANE. 😳

[@CoralCopperHead]

5:00 "So to beat the game, just be good at the game." *audible silence*

[@davidhardwick1971]

Fire world bringing strong AVGN memories! - "I CAN'T TOUCH THAT RED POT!!!" 😅

[@schatzsucher]

More Debunking the Difficulty Please!

[@marekpiatek01]

Galactus: Devourer of Worlds, Wearer of Sex Party Masks

[@r1xhardo]

Christmas is around the corner... finally time to play Home Alone maybe??

[@andresgonzalez887]

i finished this game back in the day, i loved it

[@NJungen]

You filled a big hole from my childhood. Thank you for that!

[@michaeltylerstewart]

Thanks for sharing!

[@marioreyes7971]

Having a turbo controller makes it a bit easier, my only issue was that Sliver Surfer's sprite was huge for some the levels.

[@anti-nephilimgovernmentage5471]

that yoshi licking sound when you pointed out the frog was high level, good stuff man

[@TonySylvesterOhio]

"The difficulty of this game is vastly overrated, just hurry and obtain max power and then simply never die"

[@TheNardDog]

When I was a kid I used to play this game just because of the soundtrack, the 15 seconds I got to hear on each level before dying

[@JamesJohnson-tr1gu]

This explains why James Rolfe had such a difficult time playing this on his Silver Surfer episode...that and I suspect he's a mediocre gamer too

[@jaybennett2740]

RYU is there a benefit to why you play with the controller on your leg??

[@wintersummers3085]

this guy's voice makes him sound like he is a little light in the loafers, like he kicks with the other foot

[@boopyboops]

I’m so sorry, I’m not from the NES era… but man, I can’t imagine having to keep pressing the same button for the duration of the game. I seems… repetitive. Especially when powered up. That’s why there’s a turbo controller suggestion. xD Great video as always! I guess I gotta try it myself some day. Watching it is one thing, that’s true.

[@belpack8989]

I never realized this was considered a difficult game, I didn't think it was that difficult. I finished this game several times in one sitting (not the first time through). Make sure you get your power ups, and you can just plow through everything