Debunking The Narrative: Caleb Williams' TRUE Impact On Team Culture

🎙️ The Chicago Bears Podcast: Caleb Williams' Pro Day, Offensive Structure, and Pass Rushers Debate
🏈 Hosts: Join Pat The Designer and ESPN Chicago's Shea Norling as they engage in a lively discussion covering a range of topics related to the Chicago Bears and the NFL.
🔥 Episode Highlights:
🎯 Caleb Williams' Pro Day: Shea and Pat express their skepticism about drawing meaningful conclusions from Caleb Williams' Pro Day performance, highlighting the uncertainty of such events.
🤝 Teammate Tribute: The hosts share a touching story highlighting Caleb Williams' exceptional leadership and camaraderie during his time at USC, emphasizing his positive impact as a teammate.
💼 NFL Business Realities: They delve into the harsh realities of the NFL business, discussing the lack of loyalty and the cold nature of the league's operations.
🏈 Offensive Structure: Pat and Shea analyze the Bears' offensive structure, predicting a pass-heavy approach with D'Andre Swift as a focal point in the passing game.
🔍 Accountability Debate: The hosts debate whether issues with the offense stem from coaching deficiencies or player underperformance, sparking a passionate exchange of viewpoints.
🏆 Road To The Draft: In the Toyota-sponsored segment, they engage in a spirited debate over which pass rusher, Jared Verse or Dallas Turner, will have a greater impact.
💬 Join the Discussion: Share your thoughts on Caleb Williams' Pro Day, the Bears' offensive structure, and the pass rusher debate in the comments section below!
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[@alittlewasted3869]

If these 2 don't do a regular show together they sure as shit should. They have better chemistry together than anything I've seen them in apart.

[@tommydavidwalker2445]

Pat you still actin like we lost a good QB. No metrics think Justin is good. You guys simply had a big crush you're slowly getting over

[@Oohesgotadirtymouth]

Agreed

[@TheDmhjr21]

Swift is definitely better than Herbert lol

[@JasonFlemingMusic]

Stat heads don’t know any better

[@worldbeater44]

He's most definitely is .....he has speed but also moves Hands as well ...Herbert has No moves really below average hands ....can't really pass block either.....

[@MrMegaBadazz]

As a runner? Nah. Even though he played hurt for half of his playing season, he still averaged 4.9 ypc. Herbert is very good at hitting the right hole at the right time going full speed and runs through tackles at a consistent clip too. He just doesn't look like he is good because he doesn't do anything flashy, like Montgomery.

[@worldbeater44]

@MrMegaBadazz Monty had moves would finish but had no speed ....Swift does

[@JasonFlemingMusic]

@@worldbeater44 don’t need speed when it takes 3 people to tackle you

[@mikebearup4379]

Pat is proof that if you talk confidently and with conviction you can absolutely bullshit your way to success.and truth about Fields is he was a top 3 athlete at qb but below avg backup at qb. 1st in qb rushing 39th in qbr, 44th in efficiency, and 40th in last 4 minutes

[@michaelsirois5684]

Truth

[@dapperdan343]

Shane is the man! Have him on more often please!

[@MadSUPANOVA]

Bears defense is overrated... still needs to tighten it up... after watching the Packers dismantle them. So yes... another 'Mack Truck' would be a nice addition. But after seeing the Bengals put two 6' 8" Monsters' infront of Burrows ... I'm still hoping the Bears Oline is truly updated and strong

[@michaeldodson8220]

The offensive line didn't change when bagent was in? Yes it did. Tevin Jenkins returned as a starter against Minnesota, which was the same game Justin got injured. Braxton Jones also returned when Bagent was QB.... which was the first time those two played together all season. I'm pro Caleb and am very excited about his potential but the O line definitely got more healthy when Bagent was under center.

[@runnin3216]

They also removed Whitehair from center so Bagent didn't have to deal with the wild snaps. Probably the biggest difference is those were horrible teams Bagent started against, which included all 3 of the teams that fired their coach mid-season.

[@michaeldodson8220]

@@runnin3216 Good point, forgot about that. First few games of the season was a disaster for the entire team. Oline was hurt, Nate Davis was dealing with personal issues, Wright was a rookie. Claypool distraction. Alan Williams debacle. Defense was awful. Tough to perform in those conditions. Then Fields got hurt and had to deal with Bagent mania, then he came back with a brace with many fans already screaming Caleb. Move is Caleb because he looks like a stud but to say that they couldn't have also been successful with a trade back is silly.

[@christiansolid1098]

It didn’t hurt that Bagent let go of the ball Farley Quick which made the O-line play better

[@greekguy7422]

I’ll guarantee you if we would of kept fields we still would’ve been bad he can’t see the field or get the ball to the right guy he’s just not good I’m sick of all the excuses for this guy what did Flacco do coming if the couch with a bad offensive browns team he threw for tons of yards and tds you think fields could’ve done that hell no!!!!

[@maximus4everjay119]

Agreed. Poles knew this. Along with all the other NFL teams.

[@christiansolid1098]

I think Everyone but MOST of us Bears fans knew this…the MINORITY of us Bears fans just didn’t want to admit it 😅

[@richardsanchez6361]

Ok now let's see how easy it is when he has the pros coming at him.

[@DanSharpDrummingChannel]

I wonder if Herbert gained a lot of yards because of the threat of Fields running. In the RPO game...

[@jefferywelch3201]

Denver is paying most of Wilson’s salary this year

[@mr.nobody9697]

If Waldron runs the offense the way Shea says with Caleb mostly in shotgun running play action and throwing all over the field we could see some big numbers as a rookie. He could throw 30 tds and 4k yards. The price will likely be a lot of interceptions although to be fair Caleb simply didnt throw a lot of picks in college.

[@jasontoy1261]

Swift can catch the ball and run very important I bet $ he will be a great asset to are team

[@michaelfrazier8104]

I like hearing Pat a lot more on this platform. The Windy Breeze has too many cooks in the kitchen with all of his bubbies chirping at the same time. 🐣

[@DaveyNavy]

Very surprising

[@beyondmundane3128]

Yes it’s a pass heavy offense

[@MaseratiMarty84]

My boy Shea

[@mikebearup4379]

Roberto Garza replaced kruetz real well we havent replaced garza not kruetz

[@beyondmundane3128]

Shane’s offensive needs a slasher and pass catcher at running back….

[@ricardoperez4187]

I disagree with draft process at 9 im taking a left tackle.... If there yes, Jones is okay but he going to want to get paid. Imagine rookie QB contact and left tackle contact... I'll pay for the edge lol

[@greekguy7422]

Fields will never win anything he will be a slightly above average qb going from team to team his whole career drafting Caleb is a must for the bears he will be a culture change for the bears like stroud for Houston

[@mcfact1827]

@14:00.... FREUDIAN SLIP..... exactly, cause that's the way it should be

[@jamesblackburn6505]

So, are we to inherited the 🐐 curse from the cubs

[@cholosinpolosgolf1856]

I just want the Bears to get it right! There is something about Caleb that makes me feel he isn't the right QB for the Bears. I prefer the traditional QB who sits in the pocket and gets rid of the 🏈 quick. ( Manning/ Brady)

[@bsbmakesmesmile84]

If you have watched NFL football over the last 15 years or so, the QB position has changed. Pure pocket passers are going the way of the dodo most of the most popular QBs are dual-threat/super athletic. Other coaches either haven't caught up to it or refuse to adapt to the changes, If CW is drafted by the Bears, he will be fine. It depends on how fact he can grasp NFL concepts and how the coaching staff can adjust their playbook in a way that plays to his strengths

[@dapperdan343]

I didn’t think the Packers signing Jacob’s was smart until I saw the contract. The Packers are paying him 12 million dollars this year and they can cut him next year and owe him nothing.

[@llamarre4]

All these dudes moonwalking and backtracking like crazy 😂 Pat went down with the sinking ship and the about face is wild, misleading bears fans from jump when it was obvious we were sticking with fields. All of yal were wrong except a few, Shae a real one

[@alexamerling79]

Caleb is an upgrade over Justin and the players will see it.

[@mr.nobody9697]

You can build around me but its not a good idea.

[@creightonc8147]

Yeah Justin didn’t average two TD’s a game, 13 games, 16 TD’s. I’m not gonna rail Justin 2 TD’s a game is not easy, not a lot of QB’s throwing 34 TD’s in a season. Kickers account for a lot of points.

[@weirdbeardzz]

Shea hatin on Swift, but says Jacobs stats leaving out Raiders didn't have a QB any defense respected. I think he's a downgrade from Jones, but he was main target in Vegas.

[@9190onin]

What Shea is the smartest man in the room. Don’t you know? Baltimore is a Top 5 team all time. That’s what Shea told us

[@StanleyHalas]

Justin fields, possibly through no fault of his own, was never able to take the steps necessary to demonstrate that he was developing into a star. He had flashes and showed potential that was just incredible but he also never beat Green Bay which is a big deal to most bears fans. Had we kept Justin fields he COULD have been special but he WOULD have been expensive. Now we can take a guy like Williams who COULD be special and WILL be cheap and spend a ton more money building a team around him. Plus Williams has the potential be a franchise altering type of special.

[@9190onin]

She’s almost threw up mentioning Justin

[@dennisplace2641]

Pro teams will have the Bears number and then we will see if the Bears picked correctly. All players will have to win. Wins and losses. Talk means nothing right now, production will tell the true story. Go Bears

[@JODYE4RMTHESIX]

Facts ‼️ I know a few players in the NFL and the Chicago Bears are the laughing stock of the LEAGUE RIGHT NOW

[@jamesblackburn6505]

#VirginiaMccaskey #Owner #GrandmaBear #PapaBear #theequeen #queenbee #pray

[@mr.nobody9697]

Cowherd and Florio have been utter trash and have hand in all the false narratives about Caleb. Florio is still pushing the narrative Caleb will push or is actively pushing for a trade behind the scenes. smdh

[@americanmafiamedia8460]

That story was debunked about not playing in the bowl game so his teammate could play. He didn’t play in a bowl game because it was already decided

[@jamesblackburn6505]

They see how your franchise treats good players tf ... why would they want to come here ... doing justin fields like this im sure everybody is lookin let ne get this bag a say fk chicago we aint gon never win like that ... Look at KC the only pwrson i seen them do that to was tyreek they sent him to miami... when is that sht gon stop frfr ..

[@delharris8074]

He would like Colin

[@salvadoramaya8642]

A minute into this conversation and i'm already turned off. Y'all can believe that the money was the main reason why they let Justin go if it helps you sleep at night.

[@jamesblackburn6505]

Im not impress it was a wounded duck to ...

[@mr.nobody9697]

Justin will beat out Russ for starting job at some point. Russ just isnt what he used to be.

[@calvincanterbury3975]

BEAR DOWN

[@mcfact1827]

@10:11.... You build a reputation by not dumping player who went through a team strip down, tanking, not having a #1 wr...see Fields

[@TheBackyardBirdCo]

No one won. Bad reaction. Not yet. Only until you see both JF and CW development results after taking the field in 2024.

[@maximus4everjay119]

This is why i hate when ppl come on a show and dont have all the details. If u know who Fields agent is then you do him a solid and not piss him off by sendin his client in a situation that kills his career; Poles know what he was doing. It wasnt worth a slightly better draft compensation.

[@jayritch5191]

Pat, why can you not understand that Fields was one of the worst QBs in the league, can’t throw with anticipation, throwing motion too long, holds on the the ball way too long, can’t throw over the middle, I just don’t understand what Justin fans are seeing watch the tape and and use your eyes

[@mmatip123]

Justin fields didn’t do it he threw 5 tds in his last 7 games and hand like 3 rushing touchdowns stop it Pat Justin is not good

[@jamesblackburn6505]

He never aibt never ready for me

[@BDaBoss85]

Swift is better than Herbert my guy

[@joehorton5089]

Love this show but you gotta do your research before spewing something’s. You loose a little credibility when you put rodgers in the “doesn’t get sacked” category. Go and check his yearly sacks and you might wanna retract that statement.

[@jamescatchot10]

Bae don

[@gualbertogarcia305]

The Designer was “WRONG”.

[@yuhbtw]

Are you 12 let it go bro

[@gualbertogarcia305]

“WRONG”

[@ranchthetrapper8880]

Khalil Herbert better than Swift?Lmao

[@GlC111]

Bear down.

[@mikebearup4379]

What qb wins with 2td 0 turnovers and no sacks? Easy answer is all them. A great qb year averages 2td and 0.5 int a game. What a stupid comment. Imagine 3400 yards 34tds and 0 picks and thinking a qb cant win that way, and fields didnt win

[@mmatip123]

Fields is mediocre get over it already

[@user-mf3fx9bv3h]

The guy with the beard is a Bozo

[@chitownhustler3372]

They both have beards...or is that the point 😂😂

[@michaelsirois5684]

@@chitownhustler3372I believe that was indeed the point haha😂

[@jamesblackburn6505]

And you dont know if he can throw in the swirling winds in soldiers field ... buddy boy keep your dress wear as some where else ... fk dude i was tf i would embrace somebody like him gooh = get out of here ... tell ms # #virginiamccaskey that pat ..sge dont derseve to see another superbowl huh ... so this front office shts on the owner too ... really is that what you guys say to me? That boy about to cook the league watch and all because at the end of the day he was bot pokes pick ... aint sht caleb has done has blown me away to a point where i all heck naw this boy a generational talent justin you outta here .. thank you for being our crash test dummy tho ... peace .... Hurts me to my core that i have to contibue watching this frachise over 50yrs pull this,same bs man thats why im not getting over it like justin never HapPeN NO....

[@mrlaw711]

Bunch of Chicago propaganda - Poles and his signings have to win 12 games with CW just to match what Ryan Poles did in his 3rd season when the Bears won 12 games, and not for the dink FG miss vs Eagle, Bears had a shot at Super Bowl with Mitch Trubisky. Anyone on these Bears blogs seriously believe that Eberflus can take this team to the promised land?

[@damaj40124]

You’re a weird dude

[@hendrix7948]

Pat you are a Justin fields apologist. Don’t try to come over now with Caleb Williams. And don’t give me this “im a bears fan first BS” you hitched ur wagon to JF so go with him to Pittsburgh

[@BDaBoss85]

U mad mad , but u still listening 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jamesblackburn6505]

Fk CW period 🐐 got cursed

[@chadwilson6870]

trade down take bo nix

[@bk138gt6]

I'm looking forward to the hype monster failing

[@jamesblackburn6505]

Watch tomlinson show what to do this youbg phenom. We failed him you sound like he a straight bum ... Let tell you what we let go #1 a leadrmer that hold gimself accountable #2 a Tank #3 the heart and will of walter payton #4 his gift to us his speed and strong accurate arm with the mamba mentality to kwep comming at you ... oh i forgot excuse me jf1 .. He dont cimplain avout sht ... yeah that part ... oh and ia intelkigent af ... thwre aint no doubt in my mind justin was ready to lwad this team deep into the plaoffs we are cursed now watch we just inherited the 🐐 curse from the chicago cubs ... And this move was selfish af ... because they did not add our owner to the equation #VirginiaMccaskey ... she said she wants to witness a superbowl before she passes away ... Now what smart as ... yeah keep gloating on the worst mistake in Bears history... as #virginiamccaskey how ahe feels about this incompetent trade

[@jamesblackburn6505]

What about our own #virginiamccaskey we are Doom im glad you sittin there thinking justin did not matter i cant wait till tomlison unleashes fields onto the leagie hes learned i tell you right now hes learned Hes gonna take what the dfense is fonna give him watch ... and hes still a threat to take it to the house his damn self ... smgdh...

[@onlineadvertisingnet]

Pat the Designer never stops the clown show. Williams: "Do you want to WIN!"

[@gobears34]

Can we stop talking about pit backup qb please