@@Inaire_Falen Can't wait for Legal Mindset to research the false allegations about Froot and come to similar conclusions as me
@lErickl3 ай бұрын
great videos and good luck on your new content you want to make and hope it does well.
@jtoegi2 ай бұрын
Thanks :]
@megarotom15903 ай бұрын
Update on Tactikal Templar, doubled down on defending Dr Disrespect, attacking Froot, and hearted comments that were attacking Vshojo in general including one that was anti mouse with replies of said comment that even accused Mouse of exploiting her condition for views Another hearted comment straight up admitted they just wanted “someone bad to dunk on” Not to say he himself holds that position but you can see the kind of community he fosters At that point I concluded logic has no use on these people. Some
@michaelhall7363 ай бұрын
That guy is a real piece of work.
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Tactikal Templar is a culture warrior fraud that doesn't care about vtubers
@Kul_ZR3 ай бұрын
@@jtoegi i didn't start getting him till the froot stuff came up and seems to just be content farming the drama. which will be funny if the well dries up and he can't find a way to keep views up.
@yasY0L03 ай бұрын
I saw a screenshot (edited) about Froot flirting with someone I proved it was edited and the way I was blocked by 5 people so quickly-
@satouhikou11033 ай бұрын
No you didn't. Stop defending a whore.
@Inaire_Falen3 ай бұрын
sure....
@Whitefangbioweapon3 ай бұрын
@@Inaire_Falensimp detected
@jtoegi2 ай бұрын
Lol why the replies under this so ass. Anyway thanks for the boosted engagement
@jtoegi2 ай бұрын
Also good on you yas!!! I saw the tweet you were talking about. The text isn't even the right font. I remember when twitter freaks were doing the same to Silvervale. The harassers really are so alike lol
@megarotom15903 ай бұрын
I think legal mindset likely has the right idea as to why they had her take it down as it could be a sponsor risk Alternatively it could be seen as a risk of encouraging harassment. Not that she was but some Twitter freaks might go “oh KSON says it’s okay if violence is used on her if she cheated and since I believe she was-“ sorta thing Either way I’m guessing they more requested her to remove the tweet rather than forced
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
@megarotom1590 Ahhh that actually makes sense. I mostly seen Twitter Freaks get mad she was supporting Froot but true. Some could lie about it to make it like she's on there side.
@megarotom15903 ай бұрын
@@jtoegi I mean one of the dramas around Froot is people twisting a statement she made in a certain way so it definitely wouldn’t surprise me if they did the same with KSON
@bluekirby64802 ай бұрын
People hate her and Ironmouse because of the Silvervale hogwarts cancellation, but Pikamee also get bullied by anti-hogwarts, yet she joins Vshojo anyways. So basically, it's completely BS 😑, and it confirms that Froot and Mousey is innocent 😇
@sirato70583 ай бұрын
As an anti-woke person and a follower of Perma Banned, I give this video a like and a comment for support. Life is unpredictable. It really annoys me that they are spreading fake news about Froot and attacking the whole VShoujo.
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Yeah that was a based comment he made. Gotta give him props for that. 👍
@Inaire_Falen3 ай бұрын
froots lover went on legal mindset actually
@Whitefangbioweapon3 ай бұрын
Wait, perma ban defended her???
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
@@Whitefangbioweapon Yes lol
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
@@Inaire_Falen I await Legal Mindset calling out the false allegations.
@GreatRusio3 ай бұрын
I am going to grandstand so beware; htf do people have the time to even care about this stuff or even look into it. I don't watch vtubers but i thought the whole point was that it was a character separated from reality
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Lol true
@megarotom15903 ай бұрын
Twitter freaks: attack Silvervale and Pikamee for playing a game Also Twitter freaks: how could Froot do this
@wiimaster64213 ай бұрын
It is truly insane to me how people on twitter have 1st grade reading comprehension. Cuz there is a single line that dismantles the entire argument in the document, the date of "cheating" is after the date that the abusive husband left her.
@minecraftgravityguy3 ай бұрын
“Yes lets ask the cheater if she cheated or not, she wouldn’t lie right?” Except people found out about the cheating because she also cheated on other people and scammed people at the same time, and all of it came out from multiple sources years ago and she admitted it but making any bare minimum of research is too hard for vtuber simps.
@lawrencehortizuela49783 ай бұрын
Source my guy? The hell did you come to the conclusion?
@lawrencehortizuela49783 ай бұрын
@@minecraftgravityguy Hey @JToegi can you also confirm this as well?
@wiimaster64213 ай бұрын
@@lawrencehortizuela4978 "You're fucking single now" 01/14/2018 Refering pretty clearly to the guy breaking up with her as stated in the doc "I was thinking about you" 02/11/2018 The cheating between her and some other dude on discord which was just them masturbating to eachother.
@ศุภมาศวิลัยรัตน์3 ай бұрын
@@minecraftgravityguy link or where you find the information If u don’t give it then you lied because u don’t give the evidence
@lucymaycry72183 ай бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad you're making videos like these because I can tell that you're an emotionally honest and reasonable person who'd rather not make them because you know how stupid these people are being and how they really should just stop. Before the doc, I didn't really like fruit. I didn't know what to think and it was hard to make up my mind about it while she was being understadably silent about it all, but i realise now that I've been deceived and manipulated by their hate and foolish to think only on surface level. I wish you the best of luck with your other content you can enjoy making. Thanks again my fem friend
@Inaire_Falen3 ай бұрын
ur doing to them what they do to froot brown nosing
@leoscrymgeour58813 ай бұрын
Still confused about how asmon really took Twitter as a source of all people
@Catefishin3 ай бұрын
I'm not shocked, that man is gross and the fact he found a dead rat in his house shows how little he cares about himself.
@Rain_blackrose_HxA3 ай бұрын
I got a answer for you he's a WoW streamer
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Decreased Rodent Moment
@michaelhall7363 ай бұрын
@@CatefishinAnd he's running a vtuber agency?
@Kul_ZR3 ай бұрын
@@Rain_blackrose_HxAhe barely streams that anymore
@RadomirTM3 ай бұрын
@leoscrymgeour58813 ай бұрын
Excited for the new content you got coming take time you need
@emperorfrost31833 ай бұрын
9:55 I had to get out of my seat for this one, like how??
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
@@emperorfrost3183 lmaooooo
@GC-Shadow13273 ай бұрын
A brave underrated individual you are, well done sharing your peace and displaying how actual research is done.
@odidied51173 ай бұрын
Got to put this comment here to say that I'm really glad I found your channel. I heard about the Apricot (Froot) controversy before, but didn't have much interest in it. However, when Asmongold reacted to the responses toward her document, I was a bit unsettled with how everyone responded to her situation. Got me so confused where these cheating allegations were coming from that I wanted to know how deep this rabbit hole would lead to. I'm glad I found your content. It's such a shame that people jump sides and blow a lot of controversies out of proportion. You covered far more than what most content creators tried to do regarding the Apricot drama, even those who defended her. Apricot by no means is perfect; and I could share a few of my criticisms about her, specifically about the lack of communication across some of these issues. Although, those criticisms are common among anyone really, even myself. It's also different she has VShojo tied to her career, so even providing communication can become unwise and complicated. If anything, all these allegations and controversies started to get into uncanny valley territory.
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
@odidied5117 Good comment and I agree 👍
@hankthompson22673 ай бұрын
This is just vibes on my part, but the "5 guys" allegation feels like a purposeful gamergate reference.
@dreamer723 ай бұрын
It's literally the same cycle. Call woman whore, harass them and accosiates, lie repeatedly to the point it becomes truth in the public consciousness.
@dreamer723 ай бұрын
both also started by hateful ex
@LegalizeMaron71103 ай бұрын
How is Froot doing as of now? I just want her to be okay
@leoscrymgeour58813 ай бұрын
@@LegalizeMaron7110 think she’s doing ok now all her friends are there fir her
@brettrichardson79243 ай бұрын
I like henya and zen because they are pure and best girls, I like melody and a lot of the other vshojo girls because they keep their drama shit private while only putting out the facade we are here for. If I wanted to hear about peoples irl drama id settle for a girlfriend. Twitter is a shitty website and the people who farm replies on it are assholes but keep in mind these are people that will find something to complain about no matter what so giving them easy targets is just shortsighted
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
My fav member is Zen. I usually like indies, but Zentreya is great
@MagmaAdminCourtneysHusband3 ай бұрын
i used to be someone who somewhat bought into the froot hate train (my only exposure of it was through memes i thought were kinda funny and anthime's video), but the way people hated on her - especially anthime and how obsessive she was over "waahhh muhh copystriked video" - kinda turned me off from the situation because they seemed to be doing it not out of their own morality but just to punch up at someone. even when i disliked froot because of what i thought, i never really cared to harass her because it's her personal fucking life, who cares at the end of the day? ever since the doc came out though i'm completely on her side as a result of being more informed, and it's kinda embarrassing how i only agreed with the haters out negligence to do further research. plus who the hell would ever think 4chan should be a reputable source of information lol
@megarotom15903 ай бұрын
I think your theory on Vshojo is unlikely especially cause mouse and even the new KSON tweet sided with Froot I believe more likely during the silver situation, they may have advised that due to the massive delusion and aggressiveness of people on Twitter that basically defending her wouldn’t at all change the harassment Silver would face only add them to the list But honestly I have no clue
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Well yeah I'm saying back then during the HL thing it was censored while recently they are less strict. Although it is just a threoy. Could be wrong lol
@enodexsus.3 ай бұрын
it's very coincidence tankers is really a bad luck to have a apricot on their tank
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Lmaooooo
@michaelhall7363 ай бұрын
This is what I used to be? I'm so disgusted with myself.
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
It's all good bro
@fyrewatermelons3 ай бұрын
As for the K-Son tweet drama, I believe that legal mindset explained it the best. While it doesn't make V-Shojo look the best, leaving the tweet up made K-Son appear as if she indirectly condones any wrongdoing that *might* have happened (even though there is no solid evidence proving wrongdoing took place) because they're friends.
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Yeah true. Still like what Kson said and she would support harder if she knew more but true people could twist it to mean something worse.
@AaronHindsZero3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, sorry for not replying to you in your other video I comment on, I admit that I have a biased in thinking that people who cover things will try to be bring is much proof as they can. Also agreed because people can't try to get proof and evidence to support their claim against Froot.
@joemartin74513 ай бұрын
why you care about all of that? i think the answer is simple. it is for the truth. and it is worth pursuing.
@nameless_fairy3 ай бұрын
Can you make video slower? I can't read, it's hard to pause every 2 sec
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Oops sorry. Tried to keep a fast pace cause there was a lot I wanted to talk about
@fyrewatermelons3 ай бұрын
I agree with you 99%, up until your theory about VShojo management. I believe the reason nobody from vshojo management said anything during the silvervale drama, was that it would have contradicted the idea of "talent freedom" that VShojo represents. Freedom to do whatever you want includes the possible pushback for exercising such freedoms. In their position, silver made the decision to play that game any and all comments during that live stream was up to her and her moderators discretion. Not that it made it okay, but it's not much they could have done in that position besides giving her support after the fact. Since silver left the group not too long after that incident, it came off as her putting the blame on the agency when they couldn't prevent that from happening.
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Nah I think it was management at least to some extent. It's strange to me why the other members were so quiet on Twitter for not only Silvervale, but Froot too during that time. I think they realized how much of a mess it was and didn't want to risk pissing off anymore twitter freaks. Their was support but it was behind the scenes or small comments on stream. The whole thing was strange. Could be wrong but still strange ehhhhh
@michaelhall7363 ай бұрын
I wasn't subbed before but I am now. You really put a mirror on the kind of person vtuber drama made me. Also want to support a fellow femboy.
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Awwwww thanks!!!! 🦇
@handsomehipster53883 ай бұрын
Looking back the hogwarts shit show really was a optics nightmare and i'm not gonna lie, i did believe a lot of the stuff about her like the everyone makes mistakes thing. Your video really does shine a better light on the situation but i still think the way she handled the mermaids thing was really dumb and vshojo needs to learn to not send CNDs to people talking about it in a negative light
@casusbelli92253 ай бұрын
> she handled the mermaids thing was really dumb damned if you, damned if you don't. At that time, twitter freaks were ready to lynch her over sponsoring "those child groomers at Mermaids".
@profanepropane3 ай бұрын
absolute cinema
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Thanks lol
@Kul_ZR3 ай бұрын
I wonder if silvervale cant say anything about the hogwarts and froot stuff because she might be under nda. I feel like if she spoke out about it, it would send one side into super damage control as people try to cope with their guilt ( i believe froot is innocent of cheating and at most just needs to apologize to cinnastix for the heartbreak)
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
@kulsoria9672 It's possible. I think the whole thing was werid. Silvervale did talk about it a little on stream before. Based on what she said and the fact Froot left Silvervale a supportive goodbye tweet and was one of the last members she collabed with. I don't think there was any beef between Froot and Silvervale, but instead a different member. Not gonna speculate too much but it's definitely werid lol. And true.
@fyrewatermelons3 ай бұрын
Hmmm. I wonder who would want J's video suppressed? Who would financially benefit from blocking their videos from appearing when you search for "Froot vshojo drama?" 🤔🤔🤔
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ;]
@Inaire_Falen3 ай бұрын
factual aligations
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
@@Inaire_Falen You misspelled false allegations
@trustworthyally22753 ай бұрын
Yo, the "giga chad" femboy is making a new video soo soon? Let's go!
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Wooooo!!! XD
@minecraftgravityguy3 ай бұрын
The research in this video is ass. The scamming stuff and cheating has been known for 6 years on the internet, just because you couldn’t find it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. And the five guys didn’t ever come from the ex husband but from the guys she hooked up/dated with during her marriage who later found out.
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
@@minecraftgravityguy Bro either didn't watch the video or believes rumors on 4chan instead of actual evidence and testimony from real people involved
@jtoegi3 ай бұрын
Show one piece of evidence for multiple cheatings or scamming?? Dm it to me on Twitter please. Show me cause all I saw were completely bullshit rumors
@theok25503 ай бұрын
bro really shut up real fast huh
@Inaire_Falen3 ай бұрын
her lover went on legal mindset that froot dck ridin be crazy