Ben listing off all three of the Levinson answers as his first three guesses was dope to see after a few rare hiccups in R2
@TylerMyers943 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking loss for Deception after playing a lights out game. Marisol will definitely get a title shot soon. She's an absolute force to be reckoned with
@gabrielleroux23333 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the spoiler warning , douche 😐
@TylerMyers943 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielleroux2333Sure. Unnecessary obscene namecalling is how you air your frustrations. Good to know.
@scamrasc3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielleroux2333 Now, what imbecile enters the comment section NOT expecting commentary on the match????...It's the COMMENT SECTION. You know what's up before you scroll.
@rsrocha19843 жыл бұрын
Dan is a complete beast in the final round, someone should make the stats of how many times he went there losing and manage to comeback, amazing.
@johnbyrne81283 жыл бұрын
Definitely, has to be a record. In fairness, though, it was Bateman who hit the five here.
@630designs3 жыл бұрын
I know, it is crazy.
@ajl97723 жыл бұрын
I believe between teams and singles Murrell pulled off the comeback 5 times. He first did it to Erwin in NY. Then Bateman twice. Then to Collins and now to Deception. He's 4 for 8 in singles for pulling off a comeback. In teams I think he's 1 for 6. So overall he's 5 for 14. It's just that 4 of those have all happened in the last year lol.
@rsrocha19843 жыл бұрын
@@ajl9772 Nice! Thanks!!!
@ide10203 жыл бұрын
I am actually quite impressed with Deception in this match, their absolute trust in each other nearly won the match, if they had more time they might have been able to get the final answer, but great job by Danger Zone for hanging in there and bringing it to the end.
@namne113 жыл бұрын
Marisol is a future champion! What an absolute beast! Lady Justice is coming for you league!
@noahsmith57193 жыл бұрын
I think she’s taken the throne of “best player without a belt”
@soulwarrior3 жыл бұрын
@@noahsmith5719 Yeah, she's CERTAINLY in competition for that "title".
@AA18913 жыл бұрын
⚖️
@legacycasting22473 жыл бұрын
Those post match interviews, were straight fire!!!! Also- the tag at the end!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
@davidreese8293 жыл бұрын
Bro calling JTE mashed potatoes absolutely killed me🤣 and I’m a JTE fan
@donp3803 жыл бұрын
It was the mashed potatoes 'with a pulse' that got me 😂😂
@ZachBobBob3 жыл бұрын
Kaiser was hilarious this match
@tomiwaaina54993 жыл бұрын
Marisol calling out Ben in the interviews was actually scary. Best most natural promo I've ever seen
@jtd663 жыл бұрын
Adam reciting the story in the promo was great. Tough loss here
@chronos53853 жыл бұрын
can't wait to see Marisol and Adam make a run outside of mini-tournaments that have championship-level opponents in the second round, they'll rack the wins up against the rest of the field (and will eventually beat an elite team no doubt)
@kedate19793 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Arcadio_Castellanoz3 жыл бұрын
Damn, it takes a lot to get under Lady Justice’s skin but I think Ben did it. Didn’t show in her performance but there was some definite venom in that postgame. Love it. Hope they face off in a singles or mrd exhibition (or both) sooner rather than later.
@JGAbstract3 жыл бұрын
after her intro, when they brought dangerzone in Ben was laughing and you could see how much it bothered her.
@montanabruce24823 жыл бұрын
What a match! This Rushmore vs. Danger Zone match is gonna be unreal
@dr01d803 жыл бұрын
I feel gutted for Lady Justice. She played a hell of a game and almost pulled that 5-pointer. What an awesome match. Marisol and Adam will be holding teams belts in the near future.
@LordTheft3 жыл бұрын
Damn, had they gone with their gut in the second round, and answered the question for the full two points, this would've gone into over time. Good try Deception, you'll get another chance, you two are amazing.
@KansasViking3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible to see Deception work together, they are among the greatest teams to ever play, better than some championship teams we have seen. But wow my heart lept when they said Danger Zone!!!! Dan Murell & Ben Bateman vs John Rocha & JTE in a 5 round tournament final is about as good as it gets!! Danger Zone listing all 3 movies for their 5 pointer is impressive as well. Dan Murrell remains perfect in individual questions asked in the 2021 teams season.
@sumitshetty423 жыл бұрын
How can you not love Marisol? She's gonna steamroll anyone who comes in her way
@moritzow-ld93003 жыл бұрын
What hurts most for deception is that 6th question in round 2 - they knew it, but they checked down to multiple choice
@louisceresa97953 жыл бұрын
Probably wondering "I wish I was never born" or "wish I never existed" which are functionally the same thing
@sivad10253 жыл бұрын
They deserved to lose because of that. What a stupid, stupid move. If they mark you wrong, challenge under the benefit of the doubt rule. They accepted "I am robot." This shouldn't have been a question.
@outsidelookinginprod3 жыл бұрын
@@sivad1025 Collins lost this match for Deception. He was the one who suggested immediately going for multiple choice in that question and Marisol followed that lead. And then Collins was the one who shot down Bourne movies, which didn't give the duo enough time to consider what Bourne movie it could be. So you can either blame Collins for misleading Marisol or point the finger at Marisol for not being more assertive and pushing back quicker, but in either case, Collins was the problem here.
@sivad10253 жыл бұрын
@@outsidelookinginprod Yes, I agree. I think Collins for sure lost them the game. He needed to slow down.
@ajl97723 жыл бұрын
@@outsidelookinginprod IDK Marisol didn't seem confident in the Wonderful life question. Neither really voiced their thought process well. They both seemed to overthink it. Had they just checked down to multiple choice like Adam wanted they wouldn't have burned a repeat and would have won the match. I'm guessing Collins knew none of the films in the Bourne trilogy were correct because Oscar Isaac isn't in them. Had Marisol spoken up about Scott Glenn they would have gotten there. You win as a team and you lose as a team. Having someone not speak up and enable their teammate to make mistakes is just as problematic to the teammate who makes the mistakes. Hopefully this match will give Marisol the confidence she needs to be a better player and teammate.
@KansasViking3 жыл бұрын
Not me screaming at the top of my lungs at 1 AM when Kristian announced the winner. Damn that was intense!!
@630designs3 жыл бұрын
LOL yea that was crazy
@bryant73693 жыл бұрын
Love seeing Ben flip history and come through big in the third round and the 5 pointer instead of the second round
@rocketbear98703 жыл бұрын
This is no doubt the best match of schmoedown ever. And it wouldn't be possible without (1) this digital format where we can see the competitors think it out AND (2) these amazing questions by PJ and crew that challenge even the best. Bravo.
@JGAbstract3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha of my God I wanted danger zone to win so bad. It was so happy that I just laughed so hard at the surprise ending, I thought they were going to lose for sure. Ben and Dan's reaction made it even funnier. I'M SO HAPPY WE GET TO SEE RUSHMORE VS DANGERZONE. Yessss. I will pay to see that one live.
@Yellowstonetim3 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched it yet... watching now.... so excited. One thing I know already; this is going to be a superb and entertaining show that will be fantastic in every aspect from production to character work. I know I can already say, great work everyone!! Let the show begin...
@Yellowstonetim3 жыл бұрын
This was SOOOOOOOOOOO great, I am about to watch it for the second time!! Great work everyone involved.
@montanabruce24823 жыл бұрын
Man Deception is gonna be champions one day, by the end of this season they will have the belts
@kcsupersonic13 жыл бұрын
What an amazing match and I really appreciate how much emotional investment there was from both sides. Shanon had some straight venom in the post-match interview. I'm not a fan of Korruption but even I can admit that she did an excellent job of making me absolutely love to hate her in that moment (as a great heel should). Had to take a step back and remember the fun of the competition/game when she dared to call Dan Murrell a coward. I'm always going to have respect for Shanon and Mike for being able to push me to the very limits of becoming a rage monster.
@nishantbalachandran39663 жыл бұрын
Ikr. I feel like at this point she's just being annoying and trying to win that heel of the year award. I know she's probably nice irl with her being a nurse and helping out in the covid battle but I dunno which world she is in atm thinking about the stuff she's saying. Like just take the loss, accept that u made mistakes, learn from it and then work on those mistakes and then come back stronger instead of whining about the other factions as well as team members in the faction. Example of her whining: Marie sucked, Ben sucked. Like lolz. She sounds like Roxy last year lmao
@ajl97723 жыл бұрын
Bateman brings out the worst in people lol.
@tomiwaaina54993 жыл бұрын
The ending with the guy playing the keytar was so amazing lol. Who the he'll was that?
@JustintheJuice3 жыл бұрын
I agree. No clue
@Michael-xp7gw3 жыл бұрын
The smack talk post match has reached new heights this season. I'm not sure I've seen anything to top Deception's post match smack talk in this one. That was hilarious. Oh... and the keyboard at the end... that was fantastic!
@syahlawatimohamadbeji71203 жыл бұрын
This was a heart-stopping game! 😥😥💪💪 Congrats to BOTH TEAMS for a great game. And i love the end tag 😆😆
@Madferit913 жыл бұрын
Endings like that are what this show is all about. Ever since the "digital era" started I haven't been able to enojy the Schmoedown that much, but this was crazy.
@alansmithee92273 жыл бұрын
The Juice killed it in this match 🎹🎸🎼 and Danger Zone did well too...but the Juice 🎸🎹🎼🤘🏽🤘🏽
@pc50503 жыл бұрын
Yes it was a nice surprise after such a tense match 🎶🎼
@JustintheJuice3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Smithee!!!!
@rainersummer56163 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely incredible match! I love both teams and all four competitors. I have never been more exiceted watching a match than this! Congratulations to Dangerzone, and much deserved respect to the incredible performance of Deception in this and the previous match.
@Sergesauce3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, this was a crazy good match!
@Hellsing77473 жыл бұрын
Deception are superstars!
@patriciametz33643 жыл бұрын
I'm happy about this one, great game!
@matthewbarry22983 жыл бұрын
That Adam Collins MIB II flex was insane 😂😂
@MrShaunhunter3 жыл бұрын
Damn what a good match!!! Great writing!! Love the schmoedown!!!
@malkav813 жыл бұрын
Wow! Just wow.... What a great match!
@potterpotty013 жыл бұрын
i might have to pay to watch that next Danger Zone match, it's gonna be lit!
@thatnewspice59593 жыл бұрын
100% NEED a Bateman v McKee matchup!
@brandonvogrin36003 жыл бұрын
We will get a Murrell v McKee first when she takes the title from him. Just another young player to win their first title off of the 🐐, then he can go for #6.
@neikoortiz77723 жыл бұрын
Helllll yessssss!!!! What a match!!!! Again Dan pulls it out at the end and we all get the match we have been waiting for WOW!!!! Hats off to Collins and Mckee they are future team champs
@edgarpan3 жыл бұрын
The Coyote with the Eminem level word play, "let's eat some Calzone's" 😂🤣 Too awesome! Respect!
@matthewbarry22983 жыл бұрын
WHAT A MATCH GOD I LOVE THE SCHMOEDOWN SOOOOO MUCH
@Tempist0073 жыл бұрын
my favorite match of the season
@630designs3 жыл бұрын
Yea I think mine too
@Ethan-Jeremiah3 жыл бұрын
Deception killed it in their promo I’m so excited for them in the future they really are going to be future team champs
@gert78013 жыл бұрын
unbelievable match/finish! marisol & adam are brilliant players, shocked they didnt jump through the window dangerzone left open. d-zone v rushmore match is gonna be lit. rocha will be playing dan's postgame comments on loop, no doubt. and shannon's postgame was pure fire!! love her.
@SuperSinsir3 жыл бұрын
What an incredible match!
@DugTheDog3 жыл бұрын
1:29:30 I have no idea what was that but I loved it LMAO!
@JustintheJuice3 жыл бұрын
Same
@explorewithbrendan3 жыл бұрын
This was a phenomenal game but that end tag video made it for me...hahaha
@robirvinejr.10173 жыл бұрын
Great match!
@tomiwaaina54993 жыл бұрын
Ben got REAL quiet lol
@bick333 жыл бұрын
Coyote's MIB flex is just straight up savage
@patrioticlion97733 жыл бұрын
Ben Bateman plays the way he plays, we knew what to expect from The Boss. You either love it or hate it, however, It clearly rattled Deception. You can see it in their post-match interview. The Coyote and Lady Justice showed a lot of emotion and their humanity as well as rage towards the Boss. They blew it in round 3, let's be honest, Deception had the game in the bag, almost had the answer, but almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. They blew it, then got upset, took it out on Bateman. Danger Zone Won, Danger Zone advances, Ben and Dan both are great players that trust each other and both contribute to each win. Everything that transpired today really brought me entertainment. Most entertaining match of the season by far!
@BrynjarReynisson3 жыл бұрын
This could go down as the best match of the year. Incredibly exciting. 4 great players going at it is always so fun to see
@AllOutMovies3 жыл бұрын
Deception’s record does not represent their lethalness
@louisceresa97953 жыл бұрын
We dont have jobbers to give good teams free wins anymore Back when teams wasnt so rare and we had consitent week tooweek team matches
@KansasViking3 жыл бұрын
As a Danger Zone fan, they were the scariest team in the entire tournament. The two best teams in the tournament met today in a battle for the ages.
@markusahlstrom16913 жыл бұрын
Great match, what a rollercoaster 💥
@ianmarton17943 жыл бұрын
Great match
@straightedgeveganbel24533 жыл бұрын
Dan is the luckiest SOB out there! Excellent match and I cannot wait for you take down Rocha and JTE!
@JGAbstract3 жыл бұрын
I always root for Dan, but I'm gonna root for Rocha. It would be great to see him get another win over Dan cause he's the underdog.
@jeremiahfuertes59603 жыл бұрын
Man what a great match.
@noeau44693 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking end to this match...amazing play, all around
@MrShaunhunter3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know which film it was until Collins said it’s not Bourne and then I remembered Oscar Isaac is in the beginning of Bourne legacy and was just praying they wouldn’t get it when she made him turn back and rethink Bourne.
@Weaponator183 жыл бұрын
Best pre match promo of the year by a landslide. Collins' story bit was hillarious. Marisol made me laugh with the dry spell bit. Murrell was awesome and confident. And bateman was his smug ass self. Fantastic work all around and a hell of a match to boot. Man what a freaking well balanced team Danger Zone is. Bateman and Dan showed that they genuinely are able to play off each other during a teams match. They worked themselves through that brutal 5 point directors question and did a fantastic job communicating and keeping track of both their trains of thought, and the strategic elements of the game. They did use movie release dates again, but that speaks more to deception's skill that Danger Zone once again needed to pull their best category to win. Danger Zone and Rushmore is all the hype. Man that's a heartbreaker for Deception. Adam Collins is so great he only misses two questions a match, regardless of format. That said, Deception ran into the great equalizing factor that is round three: it makes where you miss matter a hell of a lot more than how many you miss. No shame in missing a five of that magnitude; that question was extremely tough and they got it all the way down to the correct franchise. Marisol was awesome today too. Her knowledge of classics shone through in a big way; especially with those steals. Deception will be back, stronger than ever for sure.
@Just_Ben_3 жыл бұрын
Since Dan was saying he’ll put Danger Zone’s matches against Rushmore’s Rushmore has yet to have to answer a third round question, but the have gotten 27 and 29 in two rounds. So, they’re averaging 28 points in two rounds. They have spun Action/Adventure and 2000s. Danger Zone have been pushed to their 3 and their 5 in the final round. They scored 28 and 23 in the first 2 rounds of their matches. So, they’re averaging 25.5 in the first two rounds. They have spun Movie Release Dates (which Ben is the self proclaimed master of) in both matches.
@ajl97723 жыл бұрын
What was the accuracy rate of their opponents?
@brandonvogrin36003 жыл бұрын
Can't everyone see? Accuracy rate or whatever dumb stat Frankie wants you to look at is overrated. It's all about that 5 pointer in close games. Dan answers them correctly, collins has been missing. Only Stat that matters.
@brandonvogrin36003 жыл бұрын
Let's see if Rocha and jte can answer correctly in round 3 when the questions get real tough, and jte isn't answering in his comfort categories in Rd 2.
@scamrasc3 жыл бұрын
That's not a comment on their gameplay, it's a comment on their opponents. Rushmore (Jte inparticular) is playing great, but they're not playing BETTER than DZ, just because Rushmore's opponents have underperformed. So far it's close. The real question is the final round. Anything can happen, and Dan especially has a reputation for being lethal in that round. Even Shannon said so to Collins in their rematch after round 2.....you do not count Dan out until he misses that last question because he is the mf-ing clutch-as-fuck comeback king. His knowledge is BOTH deeper AND broader than most, on a scarily consistent basis, which makes him dangerous when you gotta rely on the harder 3pt and 5pt questions. Ben and Rocha I think are relatively even on that front (hit or miss, really could swing either way) and JTE is an unknown. Let's see.
@LancasterAJ3 жыл бұрын
Just here for that sweet, sweet keytar
@ericp9483 жыл бұрын
I legit yelled out load when they announced who won. Give it up to both these teams!
@kedate19793 жыл бұрын
Been watching this since the second season and I feel like I got an education on how to play this game! 👏
@iTzJustConnorxD3 жыл бұрын
Keyboard solo guy at the very end of Video, very impressed, GG
@JustintheJuice3 жыл бұрын
Squeeze it easy!
@jameslevario22543 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't have been mad if it went the other way, but i always root for the goat. glad to see ben turn down the heel aspect in this match. i thought for sure they were out of it but shouldn't have ever doubted murrell. holy shit what a match!!!
@ajl97723 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Shannon's next appearance on backstage lol.
@patrioticlion97733 жыл бұрын
Ikr!
@WoodstockProd3 жыл бұрын
Damn good match!
@munsung073 жыл бұрын
Marisol was top flight in this match. Great team work in the third round, just needed one more JTE. I love Danger Zone but gotta give props to my girl from Philly.
@eshna20123 жыл бұрын
INCREDIBLE MATCH!!! Well done everyone ... MVP: 👩⚖️⚖️
@tywag56093 жыл бұрын
Brutal uncalled for Shannon. Ben played a great game he also plays a great character. And frankly he was going light on the heel work this match I've seen him be way harder on people. Like the last match. But good on ya Ben you got under there skins just like you planned and that's why he's one greatest heels in the Schmoedown.
@antrikshaade54583 жыл бұрын
holy shit!! great match
@IronMaiden11643 жыл бұрын
Wow this hurts. Deception had this!
@matthewbarry22983 жыл бұрын
Danger Zone Vs Rushmore is going to be juuuuuuicy
@630designs3 жыл бұрын
Dang that was a good match. I just knew Danger Zone had that one. Need to leave Movie Release Dates alone for a while now. Danger Zone vs. Rushmore...IM READY NOW!!!
@HamzaJJ13 жыл бұрын
Nail biting match!
@adamptacek50953 жыл бұрын
Dan: I've literally been here like 12 times sooo.....
@scamrasc3 жыл бұрын
Ben, under his breath: yeah like, THIS year... I mean. They're not wrong😭😊
@martinandersen58963 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for "The Machine" going up againt Marisol. I love The Machine, but with that fire in Marisols eyes at the end, I would feel sorry for any player going up against her.
@paziis3 жыл бұрын
Marisol was the best player today. Goddammit, this loss hurts.
@630designs3 жыл бұрын
Yea I agree
@AldenDiaz3 жыл бұрын
This ending absolutely broke my heart. Deception has become one of my favorite teams, and seeing them get to the right franchise but not the right film was just gutting. Amazing match though. Can't take anything away from any of these players.
@ZachBobBob3 жыл бұрын
Bateman was right the disparity between questions was crazy in their second round. Danger Zone got SO DAMN LUCKY though and its devastating that Deception got so close to that right answer
@J7nator3 жыл бұрын
I don't like this narrative that Marisol is playing right into Ben's mind games. I just think that Marisol has found her drive. This is what I like about korruption they have that underdog vibe and drive that makes them very relatable imo. Especially Marisol. If that is her under his skin, you can argue Dan Murrel got under his skin with the comment about teamwork from Shannon and he referenced chemistry/teamwork a couple of times in that post game interview. This is all just part of the game.
@Zach_Bliss3 жыл бұрын
Holy Crap that was a heart attack match!!
@ryanlilly72643 жыл бұрын
A heartbreaker at the end
@KansasViking3 жыл бұрын
Marisol and Bateman can squable over what they believe to be the movie release dates crown all they want, but we all know that the title of Movie Release Dates Champion falls squarely on Scott "Movie" Mantz's head. #FirstMantz
@J7nator3 жыл бұрын
Looks like we need all 3 to face each other up some time!
@bsbgirl853 жыл бұрын
I agree, how soon some forget. Scott Mantz will ALWAYS be the Movie Release Dates king, not Bateman. That one match they had where they would determine who's face would be on the slide of it was just one of many things proving that.
@rexfellis3 жыл бұрын
Cute little quip Kaiser, but I scored 1380 on my SAT and I'm from Texas. lol Seriously though, Marisol was great in this face-off. It was a fun match to watch.
@cameronhass46463 жыл бұрын
WHAT A MATCH
@nathandrake2533 жыл бұрын
Damn I actually got that bourne legacy question right away
@lauracastro84633 жыл бұрын
Deception losing after the way they played breaks my heart.
@Entertainment-os4ig3 жыл бұрын
Was that you David B ? Such a great theme for samm's team. And they're all catchy af. Oyama my fav song.
@pc50503 жыл бұрын
Not David B it's "The Juice"
@Entertainment-os4ig3 жыл бұрын
@@pc5050 Thxs P C.
@TheMovieTriviaSchmoedown3 жыл бұрын
@@pc5050 huh? That is absolutely David B’s
@JustintheJuice3 жыл бұрын
David B's theme song, Juice's keytar
@Entertainment-os4ig3 жыл бұрын
@@JustintheJuice do you know lil bobby? Hehe. Awesome job JTJ.
@markdorsey51503 жыл бұрын
Smug Bateman hahahahah love it!
@nwworrior283 жыл бұрын
Loved this match!! Once again, Bateman coming through in this match. Although they ran across some difficult Qs in R2, Bateman still anchored that round. And Bateman was able to get all 3 possible answers for the 5 pointer! How are people still saying Bateman is following Dan's coattails??!
@sparkyAR3 жыл бұрын
1:29:28 baby Nick Offerman was on fire!
@nishantbalachandran39663 жыл бұрын
Crazy good match. That round 3.Holy crap! I hate all the ppl in Korruption but damn that was one great match. And oh plz all their smack talk for Korruption in the post interview about Dan Murrell and Bateman being "scared" in the match. They're not scared u delusional faction. It was an adrenaline rush of being in fight response at the end when Kristian said "And your Winner!!!!!" not a fear response. There's a difference to both. Hell I wasn't even playing in the match and was just watching the match and I was like Kaiser in the post interview walking back and forth during round 3 coz it was that intense and that good. That's how adrenaline rush works. U don't have to be scared for it. The adrenaline just releases from your body even when ur super excited. And Marisol like Dan always says "be careful what u wish for" for a movie release dates match with Bateman. Ur good that's for sure with classics and the other categories but not movie release dates lvl good yet. Even Bateman took years just to get as good as Scott Mantz for that category. That was just 2 questions outta 6.And previously he's gone perfect in all of them. Calm the heck down lmao. Can't wait for the mash potatoes match next :P
@lomirandachile3 жыл бұрын
Unfair result. But that's Schmoedown. Another great match - thank you
@shayanbhattacharjee53573 жыл бұрын
What match!!
@davidreese8293 жыл бұрын
I don’t get how Ben is using Dan to get to the finals when Dan relied on Ben on that five point answer
@kiki427193 жыл бұрын
Yeah man people are just dumb and haters
@kcsupersonic13 жыл бұрын
They were just salty. That's really all the reason you need. It was an emotional loss and they were kicking themselves because they just couldn't pull the right Bourne movie. No way could they keep their emotions in check for an entire interview after losing like that.
@cloudtx3 жыл бұрын
Damn straight. Of course Dan has the bigger record but saying that Ben is riding his coattails or whatever is pure nonsense.
@jagmaida50743 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair I don't believe Shannon drooled on her S.A.T.'s either so both managers may have fibbed a little
@bsbgirl853 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was all sour grapes in that post match interview.
@loganboettcher83143 жыл бұрын
For Collins, as good as he is (and honestly he is the second best player in the league), to complain about 5 pointer disparity is a bit disingenuous since I believe this is the third match he's lost because he missed a 5 pointer. I believe that no one can beat Collins in an Iron Man match because of the breadth of his knowledge, but he seems to have a bit of an issue with the deep cut 5 pointer. Sometimes you have to hit a deep cut 5 pointer to win it, regardless of what your opponent did to make you have to answer one, and it seems to be his Achilles heel. His greatest strength is that he usually dominates matches so he doesn't need to go to a 5 pointer, but to be a Dan Murrell level player (and honestly, no one is at this point), he has to consistently hit those.