Deep Diving Milwaukee Batteries With The Battery Innovation Center

[@israels5033]

2:18 Matt with the "I have no idea what you are talking about but I like it" face

[@RedDeadSpearhead]

Did learn alot of this information from AvE but, I still enjoy listening to any information in this field, and learning as much as I can about it

[@youngblood23rb]

Keeping your cell phone charged between 20-80% is best for the battery Matt's brain has left the building lol

[@henriwhiteman1630]

Love this guys, really knows his sauce 👍 thanks for having him on

[@russellpottenger8584]

So much good information I’ll have to watch twice to let it all soak in.

[@dankubb]

If Matt can convince Milwaukee to make some custom packages where the tool comes with the highest capacity batteries, for a premium of course, that'd be my preference.

[@Piglet6256]

Here we go, Batteries :). after 50 minutes I got a brain full of battery data I gotta process. Thanks Ben for explaining it all to us and Matt for making it possible :D

[@jmackinjersey1]

This was a great video, and I am glad that I could watch it and get down in the weeds and understand a lot more about the science behind the batteries and both prove and disprove a lot of the things that have been going on around this technology. The maintenance and longevity side of the conversation was some of the most valuable, especially around the chargers. But guess what, you'll have to do another video soon because of all the new stuff they are coming out with. Well, maybe more towards the MX line of batteries, because I'm sure you'll have plenty to research, play, work with when the new tools hit the market, and give more in depth and detailed videos for us to enjoy. Not sure if you watched their release video last night, 1 of three, I believe, that will showcase a lot of their new offerings as well as future creations and upgrades.

[@Dseated]

I got an m12 fuel 1/2 drill. I install shelving. I can run the 6.0 batt all day and it still shows 4 lights at the end of the day. 2.0 batt shows 2 lights.

[@mikemorgan5015]

FYI that 6 bay M12/M18 (3 each) charger will charge 3 of the 6 bays at a time. It operates the same as having 3 rapid dual chargers in one package. The 12v bay corresponds to the 18v bay across from it. Install a 12v first then an 18v across from it, only the 12v will charge until its full then it will go to the 18v. If you install the 18v 1st it will charge first. So, say you need one 12v and two 18v batteries asap, install the 12 in one bay and don't put an 18 in the bay opposite it, but use the other 2 bays and you'll be charging 2 18s and the 12 simultaneously. Hope that makes sense. It's a great charger.

[@zaceryhammond1144]

More content oh my lord this man going places

[@mmbodnar]

great info, never leave any battery at 100% and definitely not sitting on the charger

[@LKN4WAR]

Too bad Milwaukee doesn’t offer some sort of trade in rebuild or credit system towards a new battery for their extremely expensive batteries like the 12.0 when they get out of balance. About 80 bucks for the 15 21700 Samsung 40T batteries they use. 250-300 for a new battery

[@DriveLineZ]

Its so nice to see someone who works for the brand actual *cares* about the product and is actually knowledgeable as well. Thanks for the video!

[@meanodustino9563]

Curious what Milwaukee will do for the M12 line ....hopefully HIGH DEMAND batteries will be made like M18 line. and 8 or 9.0. I prefer the size of M12 tools and are plenty strong for most applications i need.

[@michaeldowling6999]

Another great video with Ben. If I didn't have so many DeWalt tools, I'd switch to Milwaukee in a heartbeat.

[@1musicsearcher]

This is a very informative video. I learned quite a lot. Thanks.

[@dpd16790]

I'm still running a pair of xc 3.0 batteries from 2011 that work perfectly fine... in the 49 m18 batteries that i own I've so far had trouble with 1 9.0 and 1 5.0 in all the years ive been buying em and of the 24 m12 batteries I've had no trouble with any of em other than 2 that i bought in kits that were on clearance and had been on the shelf for a few years with no charge... the milwaukee reps give me enough m12 batteries to not worry about the 2 that came bad... ive gotten many m18 packs for free from em too...

[@garyhinchey595]

Extremely informative thanks Matt

[@E90M3VISS]

I’m having a hard time deciding among Milwaukee, Dewalt and Makita. I’ve been watching a lot of VCG Construction videos.

[@DriveLineZ]

My old Contractors job, we each used 2 persons DeWalt, 1 person Makita, and 2 persons Milwaukee. DeWalt makes better construction tools, especially circular saws, jig saws, blowers. DeWalt is a bit cheaper and take to abuse better than the other 3. Dewalt tools seems to either have better batteries or tools that are more efficient. Its not a huge difference but just my expereince. Drills are a toss up between Milwaukee and DeWalt. For working on cars, the Milwaukee impact series is the BEST. None of them come close. Milwaukee is great for mechanics. Makita makes a wonderful corded die-grinder, but everything else seems outclassed by the other two. Whatever you choose, stick with it because of the batteries.

[@E90M3VISS]

Blessed Garage thanks for the input. I agree with you. it always seems to be Milwaukee vs. DeWalt but Makita has been mentioned has having good tools. I notice Milwaukee and Dewalt are so big in terms of product offerings. I have two corded Dewalt drills I bought years ago because I’ve been hesitant of the batteries but now it seems like batteries are the way to go since they have improved so much. I bought a Milwaukee organizer recently and I love it. I replaced my Kobalt version which they probably don’t make anymore. That was before Lowe’s started carrying Craftsmen.

[@shadyassassin08]

@@DriveLineZ dewalt does not take the abuse better but thats just my experience. Its all personal preference to be honest. I personally would never buy makita because they have always broke way to easy for my liking. They all have some tools they make better then the others its just finding the brand that preforms the best and feels the best for what your doing. I personally went milwaukee held up the best out of them all for what i do and have tons of power. (Carpenter for a commercial general contractor) Dewalt i would say was easily second choice. Its a hard choice take your time do alittle research and testing if ya can. Good luck

[@michaelhernandez1398]

I like to do automotive stuff and use m12 Milwaukee impact driver and stubby impact wrench. Love them

[@DesignsElement]

The 1.5ahs are pretty much just the low cost budget battery for the standard non fuel tools. I find I don't typically use them since the other batteries are higher capacity. I like the cp3.0's on impact drivers and the new brad nailer/crown stapler. I'd also assume it would do well on the new framing nailer, haven't got one yet. The 4.0 and 5.0 seem like old tech that will eventually be replaced by the HO lineup. Milwaukee still puts out 5.0 for most kits though. The 6.0 and 8.0 I believe are the same size, so 8.0 seems better. The 12.0 is probably going to last the longest as it doesn't work nearly as hard. I found the rocket tower lights to draw a lot of power. I typically use 12.0's and they'll run down by the end of an 8hr day. Miter saws and circular saws, sawsalls dont use as much. The trimmer and blower however do, the blower uses a lot of power.

[@bobbyRC2]

I think the 5.0 will still have its place since it is shorter in width and length (albeit taller), than the CP3.0. While the XC5.0 also weighs about 4 ounces more, it has 67% more runtime. Until the high output CP series can match the XC5.0 in runtime, the 5.0 will still have a place I really like it on impact drivers since it's lightweight and can last a very long time

[@DesignsElement]

@@bobbyRC2 ye I think so as well now, Milwaukee seems to be going more for profits than innovation. I'm branching out into different brands for tools Milwaukee either has not made or the price point just doesn't make sense.

[@fakeaccount4309]

Milwaukee makes a m18 regular xc battery like the xc5.0, in a 6.0 amp hour version, ive never seen anyone using it, talking about it, or have it. figured you would have it since they sent you one one of everything but i guess not! Curious to see if you end up looking into getting them as your highest capacity choice for a regular m18 xc, instead of a 5.0. I’m sure the difference is minimal, but i know an obsessed mind wouldnt let it rest knowing it exists. The dual m18 charger is different from all the others as it simultaneously charges both batteries! as opposed to sequential. Great informative video on milwaukee’s batteries. probably the best ive seen or heard. keep it uppp.

[@greentipacademy8696]

Uh oh, a warning to the haters....my man Matty is increasing in factual knowledge on these tools everyday. On a side note, after watching this video I immediately went to the garage and pulled my batteries off the charger....yup, I learned something. Thanks Matt!

[@Jason22Douce]

So to recap, what is the best go to batteries ( one for the smaller footprint, one for the bigger footprint ) ?

[@ObsessedGarage]

I like the CP3.0 for the M12 and XC6.0 HO for the M18.

[@WayfarerII]

This was such an informative video. Also interesting to hear “for now” regarding M12 sticking to 18650 architecture. Perhaps we will see new M12 HO batteries based on 21700 architecture in Q3 with Milwaukee Pipeline announcements?

[@heeltoe6845]

The guy doesn't work for milwaukee so he wouldn't know anything for sure. And the CP M12 batteries drive the size of the grip on the tool so putting 21700 cells in the cp batteries would make the grip too large.

[@24aday54]

He talks about this at 26:50

[@timbrown9731]

Very interesting Matt thanks!

[@94blockmarauders07]

I have 2 6.0 xc m12 only for my fuel skilsaw, fuel rotary hammer drill, and inflator, 2 4.0 xc for my m12 fuel surge impact gun, n five 5.0 m18 for my multi tool, lantern light, compact blower, and radio, 2 6.0 H.O.H.D M18 for my fuel gen 3 hammer drill impact, 2 3.0 H.O CP M18 but I don't where the other one for my fuel gen 3 hex impact gun, 2 12.0 H.O.H.D M18 for my fuel chainsaw, and 4 different chargers.

[@ple2712]

I'm a Milwaukee guy, I did research about Milwaukee battery but still see a lot useful information in this video. Thank you and keep going.

[@ThanhNguyen-pm7xn]

No fucking joke. This guy knows a ton about batteries and battery technology.

[@paul4733]

This is probably a stupid question but, if you dont use the batteries what causes them to drain

[@benwrightsman3137]

Because they are electro chemical systems they have an internal resistance which slowly drains the battery to dead. Some chemistries can age in a matter of months other chemistries can take several years. Lithium ion fades less than others but it still has a natural fade. The terminology is self discharge, which happens over storage life. It is always best to cycle them within a six-month window to help maintain the capacity as best as possible. If you let them sit too long without cycling they can have a irrecoverable fade.

[@three36ixx]

M12 XC6.0 ? where's it at!?

[@johnd9357]

I love Milwaukee tools, but why anyone stays subbed for these long ass commercials beats me.

[@E90M3VISS]

Lol

[@ImMIRADOR]

You're missing the point of all this.

[@DriveLineZ]

@@Reaper-Jim I think he was saying it to the OP

[@ImMIRADOR]

@@Reaper-Jim I wasn't responding to you, but ok. I think Matt is deep diving into power tool battery technology so he can make an educated decision on what to use and therefore, what to offer on the site. This video feels more like it's on here for the ones that are interested in how power tool batteries work. Mind you, you have to willingly click on this video to watch it. Although they use milwaukee as reference, obviously, I hardly feel the "milwaukee is the best, you should buy it too!" vibe. To me it looks like some guy trying to understand how stuff works. I doubt he uploaded this thinking " this is going to be the best commercial for milwaukee ever". More like : "If I want to know this stuff, I bet some of them wants to too". I get your point though. I just don't feel like that's a commercial. "WHY MILWAUKEE BATTERIES ARE #1 AND HOW DO THEY DO IT" .... lol

[@ryanmccullough09]

3:39 OVER 9000?!?!?!

[@benwrightsman3137]

Yes depending on which capacity you purchase it’s ~ 7000 to nearly 9000 18650s

[@ryanmccullough09]

@@benwrightsman3137 twas a Dragonball Z reference.

[@benwrightsman3137]

Ah yes, I do remember that now but I believe that episode was way after my young years. My first episodes were in 80s. Middle aged old guy now. :)

[@ThePrybra07]

Really interesting stuff

[@timbrown9731]

I love this stuff, Toyota and Panasonic claim they have a car batt that will have a range of 600 miles full charge in 15 mind and have a 30 yr life and in that 30 yr life the batt will have 90% life left!

[@johnserrano9689]

Do you have any clue how hard it is to explain to the older generations. Man took me months to understand even the basics back when I first started vaping which required 18650 cells. We have run all the brands, Milwaukee is by far the longest lasting, most capable brand money can buy. They're always 4-5 years ahead of everyone else seemingly. Still love the Makita saws tho so don't get me wrong, just cordless tools always burn up and out, while the Milwaukee still runs. It's almost a joke the ass whipping they take. Need to finish the job but it starts raining extremely hard? No problem (tho we always are very concerned about the tools) they're always still going asking for more. Oh it's 10 below zero WITHOUT wind-chill, no problem they're ready to go, but will not charge you must warm her up to about 18-20 degrees then she will charge. Honestly, tho we took them outta our main job site circulation, the original set of 3.0 batteries are still working....last time we knew for a fact of their age and still running them, they were 10 years old. I know how stupid it sounds, or you're thinking obviously they weren't used much, but they were. Figure 4 outta a normal 5 day week. All temps, in the work crates with hammers, flatbars, and many other tools ontop at times. Through all the drywall, sawdust, insulation even cleaners and other chemicals. We had 2 different sets of Makita die within a month from one another. Seriously too. So pissed off this was why we went to Milwaukee, as they were a joke for a long time compared to Makita and DeWalt, then all of a sudden they woke up and are dominant. We all pray they don't sell out like so many tho. Porter cable is a good example. My old many still uses his extremely old sawzall at times they were top shelf back in their day, now they're woman type work jokes legitimately sold at fckn Walmart.

[@ahceneabbas3767]

Good evening .. Always a pleasure to watch your videos .. Very professional. Jau a question: the projector of the milwaukee ref: M18 ™ TRUEVIEW ™ LED projector on tripod is suitable for detaling? and I have kranzle ref: K2160 tst that gun and launch you advise me .. and a wall mounted water reel. Because I am in full project of my future detailing company in France .. Local planning equipment purchase ... Thank you ..cordially

[@ObsessedGarage]

I don't like any of the Milwaukee lights for detailing. They aren't particularly accurate.

[@3DragonBZ]

Over 9000!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheFi1thyCasual]

Nerd time..The best time.

[@michaelc51388]

Li 7 or Li 6 lithium ion battery how nuclear are Milwaukee batteries ?🤷‍♂️

[@الجنرال-غ6ع]

i am watching you from Egypt salute

[@martylarson4692]

Matt, I thought you use to be an engineer before a financial advisor so you should have known more. You did a good job of playing dumb. To add value on matching batteries to tools you should build an adapter between the tool and battery to measure current draw, etc. Let me know if you want help with that.

[@ObsessedGarage]

My concentration at Villanova was on DSP and Audio engineering. We did nothing with batteries. And it was 20 years ago.

[@biffenz]

More Milwaukee content. I love it.. Not

[@ObsessedGarage]

Oh lord... How about watch one of the 50 other videos.

[@LCculater]

Don’t be so cheap just get the big one 😅