Deep Lying Forward FM24 Guide

Welcome to today's video where we're talking about the deep lying forward role in football manager. If you've ever wondered how this striker role functions in FM24, then you've come to the right place.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00-0:10 INTRO
0:10-1:07 ROLE OVERVIEW
1:07-4:03 TACTICS
4:03-5:08 PLAYER EXAMPLE
5:08-6:56 GOAL BREAKDOWN
6:56-7:08 OUTRO
In this video, we'll look at an overview of the deep lying forward, then how to use this role in your own tactic, check out a player example, and then wrap it up with a highlight breakdown of how thie role functions during a match!
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If you've ever wanted to create your own tactic but aren't sure how the roles in FM24 work, let me know in the comments which other roles you want to see some videos on!

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

thanks bud I really appreciate the kind words

[@harryyes1527]

One of the rare instances I find myself fully engaged with the video with no urges to skip forward. Incredible work!

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

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[@philipsjr.3849]

the color of your thumbnail really attracted me to your video but i decided to watch the entire thing because of your calm tone and nice looking captions in the videos really good job man please keep making videos also, I've never actually used a deep lying forward before in any of my saves so this sort of have me an idea of how to use one of i ever decide to Thank you for the information

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

that's awesome!! glad you liked the thumbnail; I was a kid in the 1990's so I always love using that stuff since it's considered "vintage" now haha. And thank you for the kind words! As far as the deep lying forward goes, try starting with a 4-4-2 and set your other striker to an advanced forward. The deep lying forward pairs well this role. If you still struggle, you can write out the tactic you're using and I'll try to help out!

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a huge compliment thank you!! I always try to find a balance of putting enough in the video to inform the viewer, but not too much to where the video is bloated. But good to know they're being enjoyed!

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

thanks bud I appreciate it! We all love watching football and how tactics work and I try to find the best way to approach it with some realism.

[@lyonkennedy4892]

Enjoyed your analysis and explanations. Now I need a detailed video explaining the differences between the dlf and the false 9 and which one is more effective as well as other various seemingly similar roles in various positions.

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

Great idea!! Once I start getting some catalog of roles, I'll start doing comparisons bewteen roles (inverted winger vs inside forward, etc...) When writing, I struggle with what to include/not include, since I want the videos to have a good balance of information while also being succinct.

[@tdh2044]

Hey, really good concept! Keep this going, I think it works well.

[@thergothon8462]

I prefer F9. Actually love F9 and Poacher countermoving. Thanks for yr vids. Waiting for more to come ))

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

Great call. Also love a good striker pair that move in opposite directions; very difficult for defenders to mark

[@thergothon8462]

​@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker , I found a rather old comment on SI forum, related to FM22. What are yr thoughts? "In summary, the deep lying forward is better if you want the pass to be made towards a deep attacking run from the midfield because the act of holding up the ball buys time for these deep attacking runs to happen. The false 9 is better if you are expecting to pass the ball to inside forwards or wide forwards making diagonal runs towards the goal since you are facing the play and will be in a better position to play these passes." That "holding the ball" issue sounds legit on paper. But I haven't used DLF much for ages. And don't you find that F9 is a better scoring threat as a solo striker?

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

Thank you it really means a lot for the lovely compliments! Glad you're enjoying the videos

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thank you my friend!! Love that you're getting some joy from the videos!

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

thank you my friend!

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Great video look forward to future uploads

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

Should be more to come! Thanks for stopping by!

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

thank you! I've tried doing the excited youtuber thing but it's just not in my personality haha

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

thank you!! There's a lot of great FM content out there but I tried to do it in my own style so glad it's resonating!

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

seriously that means a lot!! Thank you for the kind words

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Love it legend 💙

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I appreciate it!

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

thank you for the kind words!! I grew up in the late 80s/early 90s so these retro visuals feel right at home to me haha

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[@nickfury8973]

It is a great role for a high press and possession tactic against a defensive low block because a CB will follow your DLF out of the box The prime examples of DLF in world football are Benzema and Harry Kane

[@thergothon8462]

3:02 On paper a solo DLF is not that bad with an attacking midfielder like shadosteiker or even AM with some instructions. Plus IF / IWa in a narrow formation can bring tons of overloads.

[@YGormy]

Well, I can safely say that this video may have helped me break the match engine. DLF can help you create pure chaos! Great breakdown as always, did a great job of highlighting what I was looking to do in my tactic!😁

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

haha that's awesome. I won't be held responsible for broken match tactics hahaha. but yea i love how the deep lying forward is secretely an amazing playmaker

[@mrblackbird9011]

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[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

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[@plonzz]

taichi hara is a beast i didnt think i'd see someone mention him in fm23 i bought him at ibiza and he took me to la liga and scored to win in the copa del rey final hes a legend

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

I have legit thought about getting a Hara jersey cause he's such a fun player to use. You're right a legit beast

[@some105]

Great video, man. I personally never use this role because I think the F9 and N10 seems more effective but I should give it a go

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

It's funny because the F9 is the role that I always seem to have trouble with haha. Even though they're kinda doing similar things

[@yimnatawandanyika]

DLF is my favourite Forward role since FM 11, so underrated

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

Not sure if it came across in the video, but I LOVE the DLF. So versatile and like you say underrated.

[@yimnatawandanyika]

​@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker not all at all, everything you said is spot on. Many people use and campaign other roles like Pressing Forwards and Advanced Forwards or even Target Forwards. Not only do you explain concisely but also bring cool ideas too. Keep it.

[@omisandetaiwo7947]

Please do CF next

[@alsuavesoa]

Great video! Subscibed. How about a SS or AM on attack as your AMC? I feel like it would work great with a DLF or a F9 but I haven't tried it yet.

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

a SS is an amazing role so it'd definitely work if you've got the right player for it. You could also do an asymmetrical formation with a SS/DLF so they wouldn't get in the way

[@naowaratpunsomkid]

This channel has 5 stars potential. Love it. Btw, how can I keep my players stay in the pockets for midfielders (cm, cam)?

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

Thanks for the compliment I appreciate it! For staying in the pocket, try to take advantage of the new positional play in FM24. So check the roles that are in direct contact with your CM/CAM (like the striker for example.) For example, if you've got a CAM, is your striker pressing the defensive back line? Something like an advanced forward should create space to where an attacking midfielder (on support) can sit in the hole. I also find the box to box is great role to sit in the pockets of space. Hope that helps!

[@tombkingsethbattlechannel9419]

Hi, great video, really like the calm and informativ style. I also like the DLF but i often struggle to find a good one. Are u using target forward as a DLF instead? From the stats they are the most similiar but most of them lack vision, passing and flair in my experience.

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

Yea the DLF and target forward are pretty similar and do a lot of the same things. I use a DLF if my side is maybe a little more strong; so I'm not like fighting against relegation or something. If I am struggling, I use a target man to try and get some cheap goals from corners haha. With a target man, the team seems to hoof it up to him and go "well the target man is probably down there somewhere"

[@tombkingsethbattlechannel9419]

@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Hi, its me again^^ If u gonna go for the more...exotic roles i have 2 suggestions for u. Thats why im replying to an older post not to spoil anything. 1. Wide Target Forward: Basicly like a regular target forward but instead of battering his head against a 6,2 200p defender his opponents are often only smaller wingbacks whichs makes him much more effectiv in holding the ball and giving it to a creative midfielder like mezzalas, forward playmakers etc. Since u barely will find any target forwards that have good flanking u mostly play them as an inverted target forward so that he can cut inside. depending on the role of the wingback on his side u can either tell him to occupy the halfspaces and provide width, thats usally when im playing an inverted wb, or to cut more inside so that the wingback can overlap him. the only difference between support and attack is that in attack he positions himself more offensive but if u play him on support u can give him the instruction to stay more offensive so there is absolutely no difference :D Since he is a supportive role u will barely find games where he is the absolute gamechanger but in 2 different seasons with 2 different players they end up in the top 3 goalscores of my team. Somehow, out of nowhere he is there. its like black magic. The wide target forget forward becomes straight out disgusting if u have a good winger on the other side who can cross on the far post while ur center forward distracting the centerbacks and ur 16 jumping, 16 strength, 6.2f with 14 heading is going into a 1v1 vs a tiny wingback in an aireal duel xD His physicality makes him also quite good in defense to mark the opposite WB and pressuring him. 2. The defensive Winger: That role is quite gamebreaking in the right tactic. He is like "i want a winger but i dont want a winger" type. I would compare him to a Box to Box Midfielder but on the flank so in defense he wont come as back as far as a regular FB/WB and in offense hes not gonna force dribblings to reach the byline. Its pretty much from box to box. So what is he actually good at. Well first hes gonna shut down 90% of the opponents wingplay on his own. Second, he is providing width and will make the deep runs to cross the ball if he has room in front of him. 3rd, in posession hes gonna be a bit more like a complete wingback so he wont only stay on the flanks but also sometimes tug inside to support ur midfield. So in summery the defensive winger is pretty much like a complete wingback on attack. So the he fits best into tactics in which u are not playing a wingback but still want the benefits of one. Like for example in tactics with inverted wingbacks or fullbacks. Sorry for that long reply but maybe it saves u a bit of work^^ Im currently running a tactic in which i tried to fit in as many exotic roles as possible with defensive wingers, wide target forwards, inverted wing and fullbacks, libero etc :D and on top of it making it asymetrical xD so far its going quite well. won the championship in the 2nd Bundesliga with Schalke04 (not that hard, i know) and securing rank 6 in the first Bundesliga season while winning the Cup Final against Bayer Leverkusen in the last Minute of overtime.

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[@ArthurLandim1]

Please, do the Trequartista role next. Great job BTW

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

Thanks! I'll see if I can get a treq video up

[@kalosombengwa1622]

Amazing info my dude, im new to fm so i wanna know whats the difference between a false 9 and deep lying forward? And which is best to use with an inside forward 🙏

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

Glad you enjoyed it!! F9 is more of a playmaker/passer... think Messi in the Barca days. Harry Kane is a great example of a DLF; someone who wants to be involved in the build up but functions more like a traditional striker. Both work great with an IF

[@johanneshofer7868]

My main System is a 4231 with a DLF. I love it

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

oh nice!! what role are you running for the attacking midfielder?

[@Justgemics]

💀bro can u do more I like this can you like a tiki taka so u can help me out I'm playing efootball ik it's different from what game you explained it for but it helps

[@ayoungmanwhosbuilttofall]

keep the good job pls, can't wait for the next role

[@alessandrozapparrata6078]

I would like to know what is the exact way I should play the Centromediano Metodista, I feel like I’m totally misunderstanding the role. Thank you very much for your video quality😊

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

my apologies, are you struggling with the central midfield role? I'll see if I can do a video on the central midfielder, but check out my other video on the box to box midfielder. I use a central midfielder (on attack duty) in one of my tactics and it may be a good starting point!

[@harryyes1527]

I wonder if you would mind explaining the reasoning to having your SV on the right behind the DLF as opposed to on the left? I would have thought that would of created a bit of overlap between the 2 roles no?

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

I'll double check but I *think* it was because my SV was right footed and I wanted to keep him on the same side. But I think that the real answer is I find the tactic for aesthetically pleasing to look at in the tactic screen with a SV on the right haha XD

[@LolloFM26]

did u thinks that can be good use “pass it trough spaces” in a tactic with the DPG? or it’s too much?

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

the "pass into space" is good if you have a lower defensive line. This is because the opponent will press up and leave space behind

[@jonpaul3868]

DLF is a reverse second striker😂

[@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

Dude that's a wonderful way to put it

[@nelsoncarter8323]

@@TheDeepLyingPlaymakerkeep up the great work man Please keep them videos coming you rock