DEFCON 19: The Art of Trolling (w speaker)

[@NoxHypnotic]

If he submitted the talk as a joke thinking it was going to be rejected like his other submissions. Does that mean Defcon trolled him by accepting it?

[@Radi0he4d1]

levels of trolling thought impossible previously

[@VideoPod]

Then would this mean I just time travel trolled? 9 years later?

[@whizzingbye]

Never gonna give you up never gonna let you down

[@sky.the.infinite]

@@whizzingbye 💀

[@dtriplett03]

Never TrOll the TrOlls 🧌 😅

[@cycadaacolyte6349]

A topic submitted as a troll, about trolling, that was then accepted to troll said troll on trolling. *We must go deeper*

[@DrugedSheep]

Only a troll would leave his mouse pointer on the screen for the whole time

[@kirkstable]

Only a troll would notice and point that out

[@g.e.o.x.x.]

Damn he's good!

[@therealjammit]

I hovered my mouse pointer over it.

[@Dasgath]

@@therealjammit Me too! Now he has a little brother IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING SCREEN! *triggered*

[@NodDisciple1]

@@g.e.o.x.x. Clever girl...

[@WTFWalrus]

Best point: Being funny while trolling is key. A lot of people forget this point.

[@filthymcnastyazz]

WTFWalrus funny to whom?

[@RobbieBussard]

FilthyMcNastyAzz "Funny to yourself" does actually count here.

[@filthymcnastyazz]

Robbie Bussard I've seen one episode of trolling that was genuinely funny cos it was very clever and the other guy had kinda asked for it...the rest is just ppl being dicks, funny is something ppl share, being laughed at is what dicks do.

[@filthymcnastyazz]

Avon Barksdale right now it's your inflated self importance

[@TubeofDestiny]

+FilthyMcNastyAzz to people who have a sense of humor, simple as that :o

[@EeveeFromAlmia]

This talk is such an interesting time-capsule of early 2012, especially his language and the amount of troll faces here

[@zeppelins4ever]

Ah, the good old days

[@xinthralgaming]

"It's like the TSA doesn't know the law", laughed so hard I almost knocked my chair over.

[@baburik]

uploaded in 480p to troll the future generations...

[@dps9988]

Legit

[@leocurious9919]

Not to mention the shit sound quality.

[@EinzigartigesLeben]

@Your moms HITACHI actually the older the defcon is the better the sound quality is (normally). so i can confirm this has to be a troll

[@samposyreeni]

One of the best ones so far. My two cents... Inject a reasonably small Markov-chain machine into a forum which adds swearing to some 10% of people's answers, rewrites another 20-30% into short, contentless, incendiary comments, and let the rest pass.Screencap like hell.

[@naumbtothepaine0]

I'mma do one like this with current tech, thanks for the idea

[@matthewfanous8468]

"if your going to be a dick, you better be funny" that is the most beutiful line i have ever heard... couldnt have put it better myself

[@TheSymetrie77]

"The metric system is retarded" LOL best troll ever

[@MerlinsJester]

+TheSymetrie77 You're really in denial, aren't you?

[@jessvagnar4957]

+MerlinsJester There's a reason he has 18 thumbs up and you don't!

[@MerlinsJester]

+Jess Vagnar herd mentality?

[@jessvagnar4957]

MerlinsJester I thought the pool was closed?

[@MerlinsJester]

Jess Vagnar You think?

[@Karagianis]

If you like this, there's an old classic by John Cleese called "How to irritate people" it remains a foundation for effective trolling and is a must watch if you want to really irritate people while still being funny. :D It's kind of like the art of war, the details may be outdated, but the principles are timeless.

[@blehe38]

Who knew comedy existed as far back as 2010? They really are just like us

[@legion162]

Can believe that I watched the whole thing and actually enjoyed it.

[@krakenk7244]

" do you believe in slavery" no it was just a conspiracy

[@seditt5146]

@@melgibson6331 Stop playing we all know it is a con by the African population in an attempt to weesle reparation money from the United states government. Stop believing everything you were told in history class sheep. It is really just a 419 I am the king of Nubia type scam. They want you to believe slavery existed so they can demand a refund!

[@Jrez]

There's your answer.

[@OfficialFlashDrive]

This comment section has become a massive training ground to troll...

[@parsec4757]

Can i borrow your usb stick please?

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

No, it hasn't.

[@tomjeffersonwasright2288]

One goal is to evoke the maximum number of words and effort in the response, with a minimum number of words and effort. Nothing like a 3 word line that gets some bozo typing for a half hour.

[@mibdev]

Jay Sun N00b

[@ExEBoss]

*Donald Trump:* “Build That Wall!” *Many, **_many_** people:* **proceed to write long essays on why a USA/Mexico border wall won’t work**

[@hgcsm]

human amplification attack

[@GerbenWijnja]

Yeah open a random video with some kind of interesting scientific experiment or so and simply comment: "fake". People will go through all kind of emotions in their replies.

[@cunning-stunt]

@@GerbenWijnja The reverse is to have a massive transcript already saved on the topic, written by someone else of course, and post that asap in response. True trolling is looking for the right comment to post a relevant essay on. Then go back and edit the comments after posting to make sure they gave to scan it again looking for a nonexistent edit.

[@Eric_Kabucha_]

I have watched this video a billion times. I love Matt. He’s effortlessly funny and smart.

[@samposyreeni]

Trolling isn't about the precise reaction or the method used to get it. It's about totally deadlocking a conversation. If you really want to do it right, you need to fuck up the whole social dynamic. What you're fuzzing ain't just an individual. It's the whole interface to a community. The ultimate aim is to get everybody else to chase each other down the hall, while they fully know that you were who caused it. The Grail.

[@8898samuel]

Comic Sans, pointer obstructing my view, his awful jokes - this is just a painful troll presentation.

[@valentinlance8072]

MY PENIS IS PARTICULARLY NORMAL. PENISES HAVE NO TASTE, EITHER. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. I totally agree. His political correctness throughout the whole thing ruined every bit of troll element in his presentation.

[@sanchitverma2892]

@@valentinlance8072 haha.

[@joshua_tobler]

Metatrolling

[@RogerBarraud]

I'm just glad youweren't the one they replicated OVER 9000 times...

[@KTP200]

holy shit. this is some next level trolling.

[@internethatemachine527]

"Raise your hand if you can't here me" Lol! 11/10

[@mibdev]

Internet Hate Machine It was amazing. Wish I was there.

[@kristypolymath1359]

@@internethatemachine527 My dumb ass never picked up on that LOL

[@codesnap8477]

I love how the demo gods don't fuck up THIS demo of all demos. It's like reverse trolling.

[@johnsmith-sp6yl]

"i got a stiffie uh, niggas goin' flicky uh" -Sun Tzu

[@blackystolemybike]

i beleive trolling is no different than laughing at disabled people. it's wrong and shouldn't be tolerated.

[@jwadaow]

LOL

[@jo31b]

Trolling is society's greatest gift to humanity.

[@Fusurugi]

too bad the defcons dont put up microphones for audience responses or, at least, put transcripts on. can't hear most of the laugh inducers.

[@anzwertree]

I learned everything I needed to know about trolling from Andy Kaufman. He was like the pioneer of trolling. I'm a huge Kaufman fan. I bought his action figures and everything. I even got that underground Christmas Special he did: Through the Wormhole, with Mel Gibson.

[@MynameisFICTION]

But do you have all of Andy Kaufman's ceset tapes? I think not.

[@ownageDan]

Trolling is a art.

[@TunaStrata]

*an

[@Falos425]

*yo'ur

[@Laurent1110]

Your're*

[@Zach-qv8dd]

You'er*

[@mibdev]

'reyou

[@nonAehT]

If you get mad about the part with the metric system, that just means he got you.

[@DantezMaritu]

I miss this culture. Sadly it's mostly dead nowadays. Rip in pieces I suppose.

[@TheFinnmacool]

No, no, no it's not. Just hibernating.

[@UserName-ii1ce]

MDE Sam Hyde

[@mauer594]

It's still alive on the /k/ board

[@swine13]

Ripperoni in pizzas

[@naumbtothepaine0]

The internet is just unlulz now including me

[@thestonethatthebuilderrefu5231]

It's crazy that people openly talk about this and there are still people (the entire msm) that believe that the trolls are real and they really believe the things they say.

[@DryLog420]

Christ... ... "First to survive early bulletin board systems" HAHAHAHAHAH

[@unsaltedskies]

This talk was the whole 8.2296 meters.

[@ReroutedYearAD]

Started looking into Defcon Wikipedia page, in a half hour of reading the notable events and following on some I ended up at Darknet Market Wikipedia page. Very interesting that people would even sell their malware, yet alone one for stealing banking information for $500. These movies like Live Free or Die Hard makes it seem much more lucrative (for those that don't get caught or, until they do.) Also kinda weird one hacker would stop a malware attack on more so random users, then try using one to steal from a bank.

[@richgallegos5807]

"Fuck metric". Best thing I've ever heard on the internet.

[@avid0g]

A- Just don't tell anyone at where I work. B- Where do you work?

[@KimRobertson]

This whole thing was a troll.

[@PaulSnedden]

Is it worth a watch, Kim Robertson?

[@DaveMuller]

I thought it was, but I like defcon videos. The presenter was one of the poorer quality presenters I have seen but it was a laugh.

[@SuperMachineElf]

Paul Snedden watch it, he explains several social engineering skills in order to confuse, make laugh, make someone mad. It's pretty much all about the absurd

[@Bardia323]

No, it wasn't

[@KimRobertson]

:)

[@stoffmeister7095]

This is perhaps the best presentation I've heard on Defcon. Ever. I still watch this every now and then.

[@OB.x]

I gotta say, trolling was ALOT more fun, and easier when I drank.

[@circattle]

Proxy empathy with the victims.

[@SuckMySemantics]

To be fair, you were a lot more fun, and easier, when you drank.

[@TheFinnmacool]

@@SuckMySemantics I quit drinking once and that was the feedback I got. A terrible mistake.

[@swine13]

Im the opposite. Im an effective troll when sober. When im drunk, im "too mean". Im still effective, I guess, but I ruined relationships as well so it wasn't optimal And that's the unanimous word, too. Everyone would say id go too far, and when i asked what i did that was so bad they all just said "you were very mean". So i don't drink, now. 🤷‍♂️

[@error.418]

The problem isn't that metric is shit, it's that base 10 metric is shit, the methodology is sound

[@ale-lx9gp]

I've never seen anyone gets rick rolled live before

[@howtomundane3109]

Absolutely genius move, he did there⬆️

[@TorgieMadison]

Speakers: REPEAT YOUR QUESTIONS INTO THE MIC.

[@TS-yd2us]

'If you're going to be a dick, at least be funny about it.' Preach sir

[@ryanwagner6715]

Wow . The goverment was really trying to shutdown the Irish this whole time . Sounds about right . No wonder lucky charms are so expensive .

[@holdmybeer]

Mr. stabby haha brilliant

[@harshbakori]

"a big part of what we do is manifest destiny"

[@ReroutedYearAD]

4:43 Actually, he didn't. He states in Matthew that you are wicked if you try to befriend everyone.

[@NigelNquande]

I've always wondered with captchas: What would a cyborg do when presented with the "I'm not a robot" checkbox?

[@Jrez]

I understand trolling, but I still can't help but wonder why someone might choose to troll or make jokes about the things they do.

[@creolicus2599]

cause it's funny

[@bashkillszombies]

That cursor drove me mental the entire video. .__.

[@bugeman0]

The first 2 pages of Google for Villian Lulzsec and for Villan Lulzsec lead to no results indicating someone named Villian or Villan was a member. Wikipedia does not list him as a member either.

[@johndickerdown9225]

Trolling is a gift. As I always say..."you can't troll an ogre"

[@Rx7man]

You're only allowed to use the imperial system if you write your numbers in hex

[@imshaunnurse]

I like the slide transition animation

[@jo31b]

I approve this message.

[@butteredtoast8666]

Person of the future: "mouse cursor, what's a mouse cursor? What's that arrow doing there on the screen for so long?"

[@Walter_]

Yeah that would happen in a world where diablo immortal succeeded.

[@Game_Vs_Life]

I don't get it how can Christopher Walken be his running mate, how can they run together if one of them is Walken?

[@SpaghettiEnterprises]

He run slow, Chris walk fast. Democracy

[@Anvilshock]

Ah, so the shitty audio at Defcons is just the sound guy trolling! Ohhhhh, I get it now. Yes. Well done.

[@superbroadcaster]

I have unintentionally become a troll without realizing it... I'm so proud

[@scottleft3672]

Trump: You're welcome.

[@IrenMasot]

21:27 this man out here casually drinking a bottle of molasses

[@JustinDejong]

Should have uploaded this with no audio.

[@postbunnie]

THIS GUY BROKE RULES ONE AND TWO OF THE INTERNET IT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE TO THE THING HE PUT IN BETWEEN SITTING ON YOUR HERMAN MILLER OFFICE CHAIR AND SOUL-CRUSHING ANIMATED GIFTS

[@Jay-ln1co]

3:25 "Is that an Art?" No, trolling is a Art.

[@hadinossanosam4459]

Ctrl-C Ctrl-V 100 (also this is seven years old, good luck on getting someone to bite)

[@QuaaludeCharlie]

Yep , See the Shirt and The Dome thing ? He is a Flat Earther too . I remember in the 70's we had those cute little Troll Dolls , Took me such a Long Time to Understand any modern meaning of a Troll , I think I am starting to Understand it :) QC

[@HarunDanyal]

This was the best talk I have ever seen from DefCon!

[@evilution_ltd]

“You can’t halve it, quarter it or third it”. You just scored 1 out of 3.

[@texasforever7887]

Try 2 out of 3 moron

[@evilution_ltd]

@@texasforever7887 But you CAN half 100, you CAN quarter 100 and you CAN'T third 100 with whole numbers. So, 1 out of 3.

[@texasforever7887]

@@evilution_ltd you can do 2 out of 3

[@evilution_ltd]

@@texasforever7887 He said "You CAN'T half it, quarter it or third it". Therefore, he got 1 out of 3 right because you CAN half and quarter it". Are you having problems with maths, understanding or recognition of the facts?

[@icriealltiem8826]

rest in peace matt joyce 😞

[@oneevilchef]

This should be redone as a TED talk

[@TrevorStruthers]

LOOK CARTOONS!! Please ignore my annoying voice over of my own power point.

[@tenv]

Some vintage memes from 2012

[@blairiana]

Basically, he's saying all psychologists are trolls. True story.

[@unfa00]

Trolling. Decreasing world's Signal/Noise Ratio since the dawn of time...

[@thepvporg]

Dear DEF CON, if you want a qualified SOUND ENGINEER, give me a shout, I have lost count how many times you have feed back on your videos.

[@mielole]

I did not get ANY of the jokes in the first part ~till 7:35. I do not understand why the audience is laughing. Are they trolling me? Or is this based on American humor that I can't understand?

[@TheSpurion]

I didn't know Steve Rodgers was speaking at DEFCON. Nice talk Steve

[@DigitalicaEG]

Best presentation, very engaging

[@whizzingbye]

Man trolled himself so hard just became a litAF Q&A lol

[@StarryNightSky587]

icon directly above close link of defcon19 playlist banner - i see what you did there

[@Sevilou]

Remember that time when Sesame Street channel on YT got hacked and then parents had to answer difficult questions irl?

[@1st_ProCactus]

lol, Metric system is way better than measuring everything in empire state buildings.

[@deseret2542]

I would like to make 9/11 jokes but they always crash and burn

[@HerecomestheCalavera]

Did anyone make it through the whole video? I made it until about 7 minutes in.

[@TiagoSima0]

+Classic80sStuff I've seen the whole 52 minutes

[@OlDurtyGurty]

@21:02 Is pure gold...Thank you audience member.

[@unimprenditore]

I can't hear what he says, could you tell me?

[@anonanon1175]

Ive watched it at least 16 times all the way through

[@ultraviolet.catastrophe]

mattboxfilm Looks like the TSA doesn't know the law

[@DigitalicaEG]

Dattebayo going back to subbing natuto 😂 this guy is OG

[@JohnSmith-xf5im]

Missing the days when people were proud of being American

[@CongaYT]

Didn't learn a whole lot but saw some good trolls

[@MrFireinmycrotch]

Best talk at defcon.its gr8 to take a break from all the tech shit for a little lol

[@devilsadvocate3245]

9/11 was actually a good thing, you see the twin towers were needlessly blocking air space. Two pilots got sick of needing to go around them so one day they said fuck it! And plowed right through them intern making traveling by plane a little bit easier.

[@kristypolymath1359]

I actually work with a guy who does this exact thing. He trolls people 24/7 .... extremely dry sense of humor. OMG, he mentions "Anonymous", that's what the guy I work with goes by :-)

[@Karnemelk]

Boomer

[@VerifyTheTruth]

What Is An AntiTroll?

[@Show_My_Name_Not_My_Handle]

Some of this is trolling, most isn't. Don't confuse a prank with a troll.

[@EkivIcon]

I heard, the kids at sandy hook school were going to watch a movie the day of the shooting... but all they got was clips.

[@jwadaow]

common mistake is to confuse them with magazines

[@reiisthebestgirl]

Oh boy how much the internet has changed.

[@DaSheep]

Nice talk and inside knowledge... Good job exposing Villian!!

[@bradnoyes7955]

Should've named the robot Roberto

[@MrAvolov]

in london stabbing machine would probably be called ahmed

[@IIoWoII]

The presentation was ok but I know people like him and I can't stand being around people like that in real life.

[@calamaria9221]

Yah even though he apparently stopped, I don't like him at all. Seems like most of the audience were trolls themselves so *shrug*

[@PearComputingDevices]

Be as sarcastic as possible. That's what I do. That's why I am excited to see"Creepy uncle Joe" has entered the race this year. That's like a cherry topper for my click.

[@asseenonyt127]

MONTAGRAPH IS #1 TROLL ON KZbin

[@gurriato]

This is embarrassing to watch. It would be one thing if it was just a cancerous presentation, but the fact that the audience loses it every ten seconds when nothing funny is happening makes the entire event look very childish.

[@lain2236ad]

Alcohol

[@iwantcoolname]

damn this was boring. 26:32 is the best part.

[@bugeman0]

I can't find any references to Villian, or Villan as a member of Lulzsec.

[@iamFegor]

Where can I see the comics?

[@larocdokarnap3227]

Jesus is one of the best trolls and most people have never noticed. He basically went around the towns of Judea healing the sick by spitting in their ears and mouths, rubbing mud in their eyes. Then some Roman centurion approaches him and asks Jesus for help, so Jesus asks him if he should go and see the man so he can be healed. Matthew 8:8 The centurion replied, "Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. Matthew 8:13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would." And his servant was healed at that moment. All that mud and spit was just for show, which is pretty funny once you realize he has no special powers but is a regular human being.