DEFEND Your FAVORITE Anime Or You LOSE!!

[@TheLostSheep578]

I like how every argument against One Piece is that it isn't finished yet and every argument for DBZ is that it's been around for along time. Edit: I have started a war 💀

[@chiaki.hayakawa18]

Dragon Ball Z is peak during it's time. But they're a selective few Shonen manga/anime series (new gen) that are better than it... Those series have less chapters/episodes than DBZ.

[@CrazyAce777777]

One piece and DBZ stay the bar other Shounen are compared to constantly. Can't be coincidence.

[@royalfun1031]

DB never gonna finish

[@royalfun1031]

​@@CrazyAce777777set and stay

[@raiogxn]

"Dragon Ball has been around for a long time. It's iconic." "One Piece has been around for a long time. It's dragging." The bias is crazy 🙄

[@FJacket]

One piece losing peaks is wild imo. Here’s a list of crazy ass moments: Shanks loses his arm Zoro vs mihawk Arlong park walk Dr.Hiriluk’s speech “I needed a light” “I want to live” “Sogeking… shoot down that flag” Brook knowing laboon “Nothing happened” Aokiji’s introduction Luffy punches a celestial dragon Kuma disbands the strawhats Basically all of marineford And that’s only pre timeskip

[@wtprodz1528]

Exactly

[@tapanbar1669]

A lot happing in manga also

[@JTNWinslow]

Good times man🥲

[@damarionthomas701]

Thank you, but they mickey out by saying "one piece isn't finished yet." That shit so weak cause time and time again oda delivers with banger after banger after banger

[@malik5531]

@@damarionthomas701 Very true I can barely remember any moments from FMA except the final fight honestly One Piece I can list off atleast 10 off the top of my head and I watch the anime one time like 10 years ago around the time I watched FMAB lol

[@rival5368]

I think one piece should’ve won the peaks category, because even though it’s not over it has had some of the highest peaks in all of anime.

[@Karmanara]

Im copy and pasting my comment on ones like yours: peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series

[@piratedavey5246]

One arc from one piece has higher peaks than the entirety of FMA. Water 7/Enies Lobby alone> FMA

[@wtprodz1528]

@@Karmanara the category was plural, ‘Peaks’ not a singular peak

[@Karmanara]

@@wtprodz1528 I understand that, but that was either because they don’t know what a peak is, or they meant greatest moments.

[@warlord8145]

@@Karmanara if they were really talking about greatest moments, then one piece beats FMA

[@joshuadworschak8914]

The One Piece slander was unreal in the consistency match. You can argue all you want but when a show can bring sidecast back 300 episodes later and make it make sense in the story there isn’t even anything to compare it with when comes to consistency. Nobody except Oda can pull this off and make the hype real every time again and again

[@Gavienjky]

Like they said,fmb,it just keeps going up up up down up up down up however one piece goes up then down then up then down then down then up then down

[@joshuadworschak8914]

@@Gavienjky you talking about a different matchup and category bruh did you read my comment? If yes…. Poor judgement

[@Gavienjky]

@@joshuadworschak8914 ah fuck I just realised 😂😂😂 I was talking about the peaks 😂😂

[@joshuadworschak8914]

@@Gavienjky there you got a point. No way any anime of those brackets better than fmab with peaks, you just gotta love the payoffs 😁

[@WarFox7012]

But you also have to understand one piece has issues keeping quality and pacing consistent. So it really just equals out.

[@olyfan7985]

Luffy lost everything he valued at Sabaody and MarineFord but he worked on his past and came through. That's just ONE peak moment of One Piece that is similar to the whole story of FMAB.

[@dandanyellow]

they literally just got separated away. he never lost them. the only thing i can think of that luffy has lost, is his brother. that’s all. whereas in naruto.. do i even gotta talk ?

[@dete444]

@@dandanyellow in the moment nobody knows kuma´s powers when i see i just said (wait wth)

[@samuraidom6542]

@@dandanyellow get your bitchas shitty naruto argument out of here, I love certain parts of naruto and one of my favorite characters, Jiraiya, did die, so I understand loss, but when your crew has just been separated, your brother dies in front of your eyes, you see death all around you, and fatally wounded, you lose sight of everything, my boy Jimbe had to beat Luffy to a pulp for him to understand he didn't lose everything also its your POV that he never lost his crew, Luffy thought they are all gone, because a mysterious character with one of the most OP devil fruits shows up and zips everyone from reality is fucking horrifying

[@dillonmackay683]

@@dandanyellowput yourselves in Luffy situation, he had no idea if his crew was even alive still at the time

[@JuanMartinez-ge7nl]

They were dead, he always fighted anyone and never surrender but when kizaru appeared with kuma he said to just run, you dont know how that feels, he declared war towards the world goverment and never backed down, for him to have said they cant win is heart breaking. Then kuma wiping out all of the crew and the desperate grasp of nico robin towards luffy, the girl he saved and he made want to live just disappered is destroying. He was destroyed, he couldnt do anything, he was hopeless. They seemed dead. This moment at its time was destroying, Luffy was able of doing anything but he was just hopeless, he couldnt harm kuma, and no matter how much he tried to distract him, he evaded him. Then him saving Ace, it seemed like the war was over, they had rescuded ace, but Akainu tried killing luffy and ace sacrificed himself for luffy to achieve his goal. Ace dead didnt hurt cause we knew him, it hurt because of how it impacted Luffy. Luffy always has a smile on his face but at that moment he was completely destroyed. His brother had died@@dandanyellow

[@ahazz18]

love the context, the one piece hate is crazyyyy though. Imagine you talk to a 90 year old person and you ask them about the peak of their life... they gonna have a bunch. Brotherhood just didnt last long enough to have as many peaks as one piece. One piece the GOAT

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

One piece hate????? One piece is the most protected series ever. There isn’t a single anime/manga that’s been protected as much as one piece ever.

[@gamigun280]

@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou bro this has to be Gabe’s Ult account I swear their was obvious bias going on gabe for one shouldn’t even have been talking during some of the debates yet he was and he was already picking sides before it started 😂

[@gamigun280]

@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Also I don’t even know what your talking about when the original comment said “hate” I think they were talking about in this video, common sense is lacking with you…

[@evansevans1770]

FAX

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

@@gamigun280 if I was gabe then I would have destroyed op in this video. Anyways, while gabe is probably biased, so we’re everyone else including most people on this channel. There’s bound to be some opposition when there’s so many people giving their opinions.

[@niicciiss]

Maybe if you do this again you could have a losers bracket, for people who had bad pulls to have a chance to get back in the competition.

[@ShonenShowdown]

Oooh this is a good idea

[@BiryaniLover365]

Big Brain idea 🤩

[@Mondoo832]

@@ShonenShowdown would love to see a few judges that don’t have a dog in the fight and are there just to vote on who continues.

[@arushdixit2792]

I hate that one guy that constantly says one piece is mid , and the biggest point is that he hasn't watched it

[@niicciiss]

@@arushdixit2792 nah he was mad funny, but lowkey he interupting people like crazy. Especially the cyberpunk girl.

[@Santzu_]

Goku doesn't have flaws? Seriously? I can tell they both have only seen the dub that made Goku a righteous hero who is all about doing the right thing, shows mercy etc. But that's not who Goku is. Goku is a martial artist and a saiyan who wants to challenge and push himself as much as he can even though it might be the wrong thing to do. That's literally the reason why he spared Vegeta and didn't stop Dr Gero from creating the androids.

[@TheRealSlickGoku]

That's what I'm saying

[@kaienglish271]

A lot of people don’t understand the depth of goku and I can see why but one thing I love about goku is that he constantly battle his nature vs nurture

[@Santzu_]

@@kaienglish271 Blame the english dub for that

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

You’re both wrong. Dub goku isn’t righteous, you can hardly compare him to Superman or most western super hero’s. Comparing goku to Superman is a disservice to both goku and Superman. Goku is in deed flawed but he’s not a psychopath either. He spared vegeta for another fight but he fought vegeta because he genuinely wanted to protect the earth. Goku also wanted to spare the androids because he didn’t think it was right to kill them for something they didn’t do. The choice itself is wrong but the intention is good. Goku is someoke with good intentions and a very basic naive sense of justice but makes mistakes regardless. Goku is righteous in the sense that he’s saved millions of not billions of lives multiple times over for selfless reasons most of the time. He’s still a flawed individual who’s limited by his biology and earth background. This theme is highlighted by goku black who’s also biologically flawed and hindered by saiyan flesh compared to the more calculated zamasu. Nonetheless the video does a horrible job at understanding goku. If you were to go by stereotypes then yes goku is this simple which you can only get if you payed no attention at all to things in the show.

[@darkwhispersstories47]

​​​​@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou the Senzu Bean sh*t was bad and no matter what you want to do to defend it, it was just terrible horrible writing to make the arc longer. Same with Vegeta sparring Cell just to give him room to absorb 18 all done to make the plot longer and only might be considered working due to Goku simple desire to fight strong opponents and Vegeta own arrogance to prove he is better Goku not finishing of Frieza after he killed of Krillin was just straight up dumb Also I won't really consider Goku a deep character he cares for his family and is willing to fight for it..he missed from both of his kids life yeah I consider that to be a flaw. He has a pure soul and I get that but he made too many dumb decisions for me to consider him deep and not some surface level plot protagonist

[@Yepitsdarryl]

One Piece may be unfinished, but it has multiple peaks. Each story arc is a self-contained narrative deserving recognition. The Marineford arc, for example, has a clear beginning, middle, and end, with a central conflict, a daring rescue mission, and a significant concluding event. These arcs, from Enies Lobby to Skypiea, provide closure, character development, and unique conflicts. While determining peaks is subjective, One Piece's ongoing nature allows for more to come. Nonetheless, its individual arcs hold their own against other anime, contributing to the larger narrative and offering compelling storytelling. It's a remarkable addition to any top anime list.

[@watchonepiecern5594]

Thank you very much for writing this comment, I was think the exact same thing as you. When you talk about peaks in OP you should look at the arcs as a story for itself that connects an even bigger story, for example: Enies lobby had a beginning and end and has basically a story for itself, so when you look at the peak you should think of it as the peak of Enies Lobby (basically a it’s own story) and not a peak for the whole show.

[@Pinstripe105]

The funny thing about one piece is that every arc has its peaks and its different for every person

[@PoG_Actual]

Honestly, the girl defending FMAB was the better debater. The dubs she managed to pull against OP and DBZ are admirable. Agreed with Shonen, OP would've won if it wasn't for her skills. Luffy could've definitely took Goku in the Protagonist category.

[@vixy2424]

Op supposed to win how can you say the show lose because it's not finished

[@phar0ahad3]

seemed like he just didnt want to argue imo

[@Cynical_Citizenz]

Nah goku is better written

[@Shiki265]

​@@Cynical_Citizenz goku is better written? Lmao

[@Cynical_Citizenz]

@@Shiki265 than luffy? Yes.

[@Will-T.]

The category was peakS not singular peak. FMAB may have the higher peak for now with its ending. but One Piece just has too many peaks for it to compete. Each arc has so many peaks on their own. And I don't know what that one guy was saying about One Piece not building on itself. Every Arc is built up by everything that has come before. So much setup and so much pay off. But I'm not mad about it. We all know that once One Piece ends it will be the undisputed GOAT. FMAB and Code Geass are probably also in my top 5 tbh

[@Karmanara]

Yeah but thats not even a peak. A peak is the climax. They never said anything about the SPECIFIC BIG MOMENTS that happen in an arc. Im copy and pasting my comment on ones like yours: peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series

[@qudariwilkinson9538]

@@Karmanara buddy it’s peaks and op has way more peaks

[@HunY_BuN]

​@@Karmanara yes your right but if we go by this sense then doesn't that means that an anime like demon slayer wins against OP "which obviously ain't never gonna happen" cuz demon slayer has a climax but one piece is yet tp reach its climax? Tho you can argue thta just a single peak arc of OP was better then the whole demon slayer cuz that's the only way OP can win

[@habilhussain3387]

@@HunY_BuNwhat? How does that even make sense? One piece hasn’t finished but that certainly does not mean it hasn’t had peaks lmao you really believe that in over 1000 episodes there’s been no peaks?????? Wtf open your eyes and then for u to say demon slayer has more peaks than One piece damn that is beyond stupid. A story doesn’t have to be finished to it to have a peak lol

[@asqiaverlita9662]

​@@Karmanarasaw ur comments twice still doesnt make sense lol, u r just hurt that OP has so many peaks better than FB i mean EVERY ARC HAS ITS OWN STORY (has many diff character as the main focus) which means every arcs is not just building up action for the main story (in the context of connecting into the main goals searching for ONE PIECE) BUT every arcs WITHIN THE STORIES has its own connection to the main story. Simply put EVERY ARCS OR ISLAND HAS ITS OWN STORIES TO TELL AND PEAKS but still connected to the main one. OP is not one main full story like other shonen, OP is an ADVENTURES GENRE

[@MelkorV]

I’ll be honest. I would give peaks to One Piece. One piece’s one of the pillar’s it’s peaks. They are so good that it gives you chill while watching it.

[@me94011]

Agree. Op only lost because of the technicality of the term - peak i.e. Highest point getting start to end. The girl really played well.

[@gamingparadise3390]

@@me94011 yeah plus rob could have just couterd it with we can also define peaks as b best moments of every arc or some shitt and could have argumented better ut he stayed quite and lost ,the girl def was the best debatter

[@ismailkhlil5853]

most of the debater are one piece hater. u can see it. especially that annoying dbz debater

[@avoidgel1685]

@@ismailkhlil5853yessss 😂😂

[@ThePastAnalysis]

@@ismailkhlil5853 That DBZ guy was so obnoxious. He needed to shut when it wasn’t his turn.

[@itz_x_salvation395]

Truer words have never been said "you gotta skip the first 6 minutes of each one piece episode" lol that had me dying.

[@zxcvb3772]

Sadly Toei ruined One Piece for a long time.

[@VigneshValentine]

One Piece should've won in peaks category simply because it reaches its peak at the end of almost every arc. I love FMAB but I dont think I've gotten so much invested in the characters emotionally as compared to the character depth and development we have in one piece and that makes these characters much more close to heart and anything bad happening to them hurt like hell and Oda even a made us cry over a piece of wood and if this doesn't define peak then nothing else will.

[@tempest4565]

This is literally the best rivaly in whole fiction...Rob vs Gabe. There is no better rivaly than this imo

[@swastikrout959]

List of One Piece peaks:- 1) Nami asks Luffy to save her 2)Mihawk first appearance 3)Mihawk vs Zoro and Zoro's promise to never lose again 4)Laugh Tale being mentioned 5)Will of D being mentioned in Drum Island Arc 6)Poneglyphs and Ancient Weapons in Alabasta 7)Sky Island Reveal and Luffy beating Belamy 8) Ancient weapon Poseidon being mentioned at Sky Island 9)Ussop leaving the crew 10)Robin's 'I want to live' 11)Gear Second 12)Gear Third 13)Sanji's Diable Jambe 14) Zoro's Ashura 15)Straw Hats declaring war against the World Government 16)Farewell to Going Merry 17)Ace vs Black Beard 18) Shanks and White Beard Splitting the heavens 19)Zoro vs Riyuma 20)Zoro's nothing happened moment 21)The Worst Generation's first appearance 22)Luffy punching Charlos 23) Rayleigh's first appearance 24)Luffy losing his life span in Impel Down 25)Impel Down Escape 26)Bon-chan's sacrifice 27)White Beard's Tremor Tremor Fruit power reveal 28)Marineford War Battles (WB vs Akainu, Luffy's conqueror's Haki, etc) 29)White beard's death 30)Black Beard taking White Beard's DF 31)Ace dies 🍩 32)Shanks arrives at Marineford 33)The "THE ONE PIECE IS REAL" moment 34)The Time Skip 35)Shirahoshi is Poseidon. 36) Joy Boy reveal 37)The voice of All things 38) Doflamingo's past 39)Law's past 40)Luffy vs Doflamingo 41)Sabo's first appearance 42)Gear Fourth 43) Ussop uses Observation Haki 44) Lode Poneglyphs reveal 45) The Raizo Dono moment 46)The Ninja-Pirate-Mink-Samurai Alliance 47)Sanji's past 48) Straw hats get there 2nd Lode Poneglyphs 49)Gear Fourth :Tank Man and Gear Fourth: Snake Man 50) Luffy awakens advanced Observation Haki 51) Imu revealed 52)God Valley's story 53) Rock D Xebec 54)Zoro gets Enma 55) Wano past 56) Oden Origin 57) Zoro gets Conquerors Haki 58) Sanji awakens his Germa 66 powers 59)Sanji uses Ifrit Jambe 60)Zoro vs King 61)Sanji vs Queen 62) Luffy learns Ryuo 63) Gear 5 64) Luffy uses advanced Conquerors Haki 66) Zunesha comes to Wano 67) Luffy 's real dream being hinted at 68) Law and Kid vs Big Mom 69)Luffy Becomes a Yonko 70)Buggy becomes a Yonko 71)Vegapunk revealed 72) Rob Luchi vs Gear 5 73) Devil Fruit origin 74) Seraphim Introduced 75)Lulusia is wiped out 76)Jaguar D Saul is alive 77)The man marked by flames is hinted 78)Name of one of the Five elders is revealed (Saint Jay Garcia Saturn) 79)Shanks vs Kid Pirates 80) Kid Pirates are no more 81)Heart Pirates vs Black Beard Pirates 82)Imu saying "Lily" 83)Cobra's death 84)The revolutionary army declares war on the World Nobels 85)The Holy Knights reveal 86)Shanks talking with the five elders. 87)Ohara Buster call 88)Pluton is in Wano 89)Straw Hat Grand fleet is formed 90) All BOUNTY reveals 91) Sun God Nika is mentioned by Who's who 92) Green Bull's first appearance 93)Cobra is dead 94) Vivi and Wappol are with Big News Morgan 95) Wappol knows something about the World Government 96) Sabo saw Imu in the Empty throne 97)Bonney is Kumar's Daughter 98)Roger is Ace's father 99)Dragon in Luffy 's father 100)Garp is luffy 's grandpa 101) CP0 reveal Edit:- 102)Nightmare Luffy If I have missed any , feel free to mention the peak moments

[@luffy3-q9e]

luffy walking past big mom and kaido, then one shotting kaido to the ground with his gomu gomu no red roc the walk to frankys house the walk to arlong park vegapunk explaining luffys df kuma wiping out all of the straw hats at shabondy and luffy breaking down luffy one shotting a pacifists in returb to shabondy most definitely more

[@swastikrout959]

@@luffy3-q9e yeah 👍, how can one piece loose in a battle of peaks , that is insane

[@luffy3-q9e]

@@swastikrout959 fr

[@Karmanara]

peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series

[@swastikrout959]

@@Karmanara if thats what a peak is then the argument was baseless. Peak means when a series was at its greatest. Peak doesn't mean climax, don't believe me search for the true meaning of peak , it will always define it as maximum of something. The people in the video and you don't understand what peak is , you made up a defination.

[@ShakierElk]

Haven't even finished the video, but this is a common shonen showdown W

[@royalfun1031]

Not for OP

[@arushdixit2792]

Worst takes of all time

[@frankcayseron8637]

@@arushdixit2792 honestly i would argue more that some anime lost due to luck of the draw, it is not all just bad takes

[@FreyFantom]

As someone who has a bachelor's degree in Animation, DBZ should have won that category. If you look at animation as a whole, you are looking at not only the flow of it, but the art style. As someone who is a MASSIVE fan of Full Metal Alchemist, that animation is very beautiful. The scenes frame by frame are sick and sets the bar high, so it comes down to one thing. The uniqueness of the drawn characters, and age. If you look at Full Metal Alchemist, the art style is gorgeous, BUT its not massively unique. DBZ's art style is unlike anything else in the world. With those triangular shaped eyes, down to the overly muscular shapes to their bodies. There really isn't another anime out there that has an art style quite like DBZ. Dragon Ball Z's brutal fight scenes, crazy, destructive animation, and art style, along with characters and arcs is what made DBZ the most iconic anime in history. The big 4 (DBZ, Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach) are all very well respected and loved, but in a lot of areas of the world, DBZ has become a culture to a lot of folks. Its old, the animation and art style helped CREATE a lot of animes we see today. During my studies I actually found animations that were a copy paste of DBZ scenes, as well as Naruto scenes believe it or not. Not students, but actual other animations out there, TRACING over DBZ scenes and adding it into their own animes. So hands down, DBZ wins, man.

[@fwo7932]

I already know this statement was written by a W person

[@ThePastAnalysis]

This is a meme copypasta shitpost.

[@moonyyuu8834]

I don't even care about your bachelors in animation if you don't even seem to know what it is. What you are doing is comparing the uniqueness of art styles. Animation is completely different. It's about how smooth the frames are, and the creativeness in which they are displayed. You see it most in fights. If you think the fighting effects in DBZ are better than the ones in FMAB I have nothing more to say to you.

[@katsthetix9336]

respect to the one piece dude, he knew a lot more peak op moments, but only mentioned the ones that weren't huge spoilers, but if he had, you would've smacked fmab like actually. One piece is the definition of peak anime

[@MelkorV]

These types of videos are the best. Make more tier list type videos with this group.

[@ChinnstantNoodles]

As long as you keep supporting we shall keep making videos!

[@SpaaceNathan]

Bro code Geass and one piece should’ve been the ending bro these anime’s are the best in the world

[@Namelessman247]

15:28 I like how we all collectively knew where that was going.

[@syahmiwafiy2675]

Lol

[@KevDu67]

No, I can argue with DBZ fights

[@scarlessyt]

@@KevDu67bet state ur argument

[@KevDu67]

@@scarlessyt The fights of Dragon Ball have no weight. We're not scared for the character's life because we know they'll get revived by the Dragon Balls. Plus they look exactly the same. Punching, kicking, ki blast. And it's even worst in Dragon Ball Super that the show is just about flashy fights. Like they ignore the adventure aspect from the OG Dragon Ball. So the fight goes like this, a random comes out from nowhere, Goku beats him and that's it.

[@scarlessyt]

@@KevDu67 what are u talking about all throughout the saiyan saga and namek the fights felt like there were stakes they had amazing choreography and u have the animation along with it and then you have fights like Goku vs Freeza or Gohan vs cell with top tier writing to go with it sure they don’t use martial arts as much as in og db and they do replay some scenes but u cant deny that the fights are good but I can’t defend what u said about super since u are right about that

[@Ari2ha]

In the ''One Piece'' vs ''Fullmetal Alchimist Brotherhood'' debate Rob should've just said ''Nothing happend''!

[@bear566]

and this is exactly why it didnt win. it has peaks that will never be as satisfying as luffy being pirate king or finding the one piece. everybody started watching one piece for those 2 reasons. why you carried on dont matter, its why you started that counts

[@Recon-601]

​@@bear566you'd be right except that the category was "Peaks" as in multiple peaks So while there isn't a moment that will surpass the high of Luffy becoming the Pirate King He could've still defended with "Nothing happened" "I want to live" "Thank you for loving me" And much much more. Specially when you consider the manga and you get into Spoilers Gear 5,the defeat of big Mom and Kaido and the crowning of the 5th emperor of the sea

[@Samsince04]

@@bear566 Nah that's subjective. How do you know that Luffy becoming the pirate king will be the most satisfying peak for every One piece fan? That's just a copout IMO. I think the argument is simple. One Piece has a lot of peak moments, at least one in every arc IMO. FMAB also has its moments as well. Idk why we have to bring up aspects that overcomplicate the argument.

[@bear566]

@@Samsince04 If you learnt anything about storytelling, every story has its climax/peak. Different peaks in different arcs isn't the the argument. It's about the highest high the story has had that "concludes" the story. And it didn't say for every person, but the majority. Hell maybe Luffy vs Blackbeard will be peak Same way the majority will agree Naruto vs Sasuke was peak.

[@bear566]

@@Samsince04 and you say "peak moments" Its peak, just peak...and no one piece fan can look atleast one moment and say, "yes we can somewhat all agree that is peak."

[@PaganPolska]

As a 90's baby I grew up on Dragon Ball and was around to see the hype for DBZ when it first aired in America. So because of that it holds a special place in my heart that no other Anime ever will.

[@Hogoku_YT]

It's the GOAT say less!!

[@falloutstar1551]

The FMAB slander is craaaazy, I hate that they didn’t bring up actually examples, like finding out king Bradley was a homunculus, finding out Salem was Pride, Greed sacrificing himself for Ling, Hoehenheim sacrificing himself for his sons, finding out fathers origin, seeing Al get his body back, Finding out the true story of the Ishvallen war, + so much more, then just the over all conclusion of the story were all captivating and rememberable, each of those moments had emotional depth. Personally feel like FMAB definitely deserves the win because of its timeless and original storyline and plot. Edward Elric is his own sort of protagonist you can’t compare any other protagonist to him because his personality was just so different then what you normally get in anime these days.

[@Themarch001]

It really wasn't lmao all of them think that FMAB is an S tier anime, (it is) but the one piece slander was bigger.

[@SPREET5454]

Honestly I just don't think they argued their points well enough. The moment of seeing Mustang literally incinerate Envy was the peakest peak of all peaks after losing Hughes. I don't understand how to just wasn't brought up. The Naruto boys hating One Piece was crazy though, but that's Gabe, worlds #1 One Piece hater.

[@falloutstar1551]

@@SPREET5454 you sorting facts, seeing Mustang get his pay back was definitely the most satisfying moment in the series. I feel Gabe tho cause I used to be a big One piece hater, until I heard the drums of liberation and watched the live action, now I’m on episode 402 😅.

[@swastikrout959]

Every argument against one piece is that it has not finished, shows how good one piece is, other animes need excuses to win 😂

[@Fureth32]

No it’s because Aida doesn’t know how to wrap up a story without adding an arduous amount of filler

[@swastikrout959]

@@Fureth32 and who is Aida

[@DrPlagueReborn]

​@@Fureth32 Who tf is aida

[@SteveClearly]

@@Fureth32 who aida

[@theweirdestcontent]

@@Fureth32 if you mean oda then no theres no filler in the manga since all of the manga is cannon if your talking about the anime then its not his fault its toeis for adding the filler not oda

[@TheBestMOC]

If you go back and watch dbz the Animation is actually amazing, like the art and the look is older looking, but the animation and movement itself is actually spectacular even by today’s standards, I’d say it’s better than most anime produced today minus the usual big budget anime such as demon slayer, attack on Titan, jujutsu Kaisen ect

[@Mochii01]

what I got from the fmab peak argument is that a story has to end to have its peak. So by that logic one piece peaks are worse than demon slayer peaks since demon slayer ended. I might’ve misunderstood but that’s what I got from the argument.

[@HesJoyboy]

ONG🤣. Bruh did NOT hold one piece down as he should’ve. IMO me personally ain’t none of them talking me out that shit cuz ain’t no way on this planet they actually think one piece isn’t peak lmfao

[@gamigun280]

@@HesJoyboy it’s not that he was literally debating against 2 people because gabe could be quite when Rob turn came around also they brought up some random shit about “peaks being the end of an anime” or sum shit like that which makes no sense because every time I hear someone say this part of an anime is peak it’s usually the most hype or best parts of that anime……but it is what it is 🤷🏾‍♂

[@ChinnstantNoodles]

Nahhhhh FMAB won because it CONSISTENTLY had the highest high And never dropped or fell off. And completed its story without missing a beat. One piece has high ass peaks some of the best in history BUT it’s would be supremo cap to say throughout all of its episodes it stays peak. There are some low lows that FMAB never hit. Maybe in a dif category OP might have won but it def went against a hard hitter

[@Karmanara]

Err no. Thats not what she was saying. PEAK is the climax of a story. OP is still getting CLOSE to its peak. Its still in the rising action. All the big moments in the OP series aren’t peaks. They are just moments, supernovas happening in the universe 🤓. The PEAK would be the climax, the collapsing of said universe. So yes, what you said is partially correct. Does Demon slayer have better peak than OP? Yes, but only because OP hasn’t even REACHED its peak yet. I know for a fact it will be way better than demon slayer though

[@bear566]

firstly DS is finished and im not a big fan of it. but your peak of OP could be zoros "nothing happened" while mine is luffy beating lucci. two completely different peaks that dont serve to what the OP is. you looking at points arcs. the pain arc is peak naruto for others, but not the majority which is sasuke versus naruto. or naruto becoming hokage. we were promised that and we got it, those are peaks game of thrones peak is season8 ep 3. even though others may disagree, that is what the show was built all the way to. if op stops now we'll feel robbed.

[@ayman4655]

never knew someone's "favorite" anime of all time could be cyberpunk 💀

[@noobie1920]

😂😂

[@asher7973]

Couldn't be me

[@Slender_neet]

I mean if people can have dbz as their favorite anything is possible, you just have to be blind enough

[@blur58]

@@Slender_neet whats wrong w dbz

[@Slender_neet]

@@blur58 nothing really, but nothing about it is great neither. It's just an average anime that got pushed up cause of "nostalgia" and dbz fans refuse to accept it

[@romanssensei]

This was entertaining bro 😂👏🏽

[@ShonenShowdown]

Appreciate it! 🤣

[@Shadow01111]

Ayo observation Inventer having 1 like and reply is crazy Lemme Join up

[@khamoshsilence8468]

shonen u should have said that marineford was peak as it was the end of an era, all that world building for the new era that is peak

[@Karmanara]

Im copy and pasting my comment on ones like yours: peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series

[@khamoshsilence8468]

@@Karmanara peak and climax are two different things. The end arc is climax not peak. Peak is at its best. For ongoing mangas or story peak is used for best arc or saga not for the end. So either the topic was stupid or either you don’t understand what peak is

[@QA2A]

@@KarmanaraPeaks was the topic, she turned the topic to Peak, therefore the entire conversation turned into a different topic and yet the same. A peak is the highest point while climax is the most intense part of a story followed by what you said. There are many series of books that are out there with each book having a Peak and the culmination of all those books make the story whole with One climax but it doesn’t take away from each book having its own peak therefore peaks to the whole story. This can be said for One Piece and other anime that are built just like this. A peak can be a climax but it can’t be said in reverse.

[@Karmanara]

@@QA2A shits over a year ago 😭

[@QA2A]

@@Karmanara I know…I’m late as heck 😂

[@KingDreams]

Wow, the girl defending FMAB is really good at getting her points across, im glad she defended FMAB she was amazing and she definitely deserved the victory.

[@BigBallsLover6969]

🥩🏇

[@thousandhunny]

@@BigBallsLover6969 thank you

[@allforone1923]

@@thousandhunny💀

[@thousandhunny]

@@allforone1923 😘

[@allforone1923]

@@thousandhunnywhy dont you post anything on your channel

[@Garbarrel]

Love your videos rob, you’re easily my favorite KZbinr. I’ve watched every single one of your videos since I’ve found your channel 😂

[@ShonenShowdown]

Appreciate you so much bro, glad you enjoy the content

[@MirikoRU]

@@ShonenShowdown 🙏

[@Garbarrel]

@@ShonenShowdown can’t wait for more! Keep it up man!

[@wickedslushy2015]

Start rewatching lol that’s what I do when I’m bored

[@Garbarrel]

@@wickedslushy2015 I’ve done for a lot of the videos lol

[@belleville1805]

Most DBZ fans can only see the surface of Goku, and never look deeper, the flaws and the imperfection.

[@stevenchen9852]

Yes that happens with arc anime’s. You technically can’t compare dragon ball and CP there two different types in it’s entirely

[@Shockwave99999]

Bro had consistency as a topic for One Piece and opened up with Marineford going into Fishman Island, probably the worst example he could’ve offered lmao

[@Jxxron]

All ik is her points are great, but oda makes mini stories within his arcs that do peak the way she was bringing it up, a whole built up story with a climax, and those peaks are arguably better than fmas

[@editimpact66]

A single saga in one piece(water 7) is literally perfection from start to finish, tell me a moment where it falls off :)

[@Rob_Lucci_]

When they were on the train to get to Enies Lobby

[@KuRoSheeP90]

Opening, endings, Flashbacks, Flashbacks....

[@Roy21345]

honestly the video was gas but they were flaming one piece at the peaks section cause im not really sure but i dont really think that fmab got 200mil views in a single episode like one piece did in the sanji vs queen episode which was legit peak animation and fight

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

anime wasn’t as popular when full metal was going on . Back in the early 2000s, you’d get bullied for getting caught watching that. Anime post Covid is crazy popular so naturally a newer show is gonna attract more people then an older show. Anime was mostly Japan only for a long time too outside of forums and really big shows like z.

[@Karmanara]

Im copy and pasting my comment on ones like yours: peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series

[@muleyamwiinga3988]

FMAB doesn't have 200M fans... But quality of a shows cannot be defined by its views... Vinland Saga has less views than Boruto, Bacanno has less than views Pyscho, etc...

[@screamingtothevoid778]

Damn dude did One Piece dirty. I can't believe he got taken down by a semantics argument.

[@starlightanya5704]

Watching one piece for 15 years and Dbz for 3 years naruto for 10 years one piece is peak its the best Anime of all time

[@RobbyBobby-f6l]

As someone who has been watching anime since the mid-90s, I have seen many come and go and some stay and leave their mark. That being said for those of you who are younger or don’t venture into out of the mainstream, please watch Samurai Champloo. Easily the greatest show I have ever watched. The tight knit strong cast with varying personalities, humor mixed with dark themes, best soundtrack to an anime, good conclusion, romance, revenge and everything you could hope for. And it’s done in less than 30 episodes. It changed my life

[@EmpteeBluffs]

i have watched samurai champloo and its one of my favourite animes but one piece clears it so easily holy shit

[@SpaaceNathan]

code geass is my 2nd fav behind one piece, its similar to aot in the aspect of if you don't listen to the story you're gonna get confused but yeah if u watch code geass to its fullest, its definitely gonna be on your fav anime list

[@EmpteeBluffs]

@@SpaaceNathan Code geass is also my second favourite behind one piece lmao

[@zxcvb3772]

I love Samurai Champloo too, great series albeit lackluster ending, but yeah One Piece clears it easy.

[@OtakuQuis]

I love this game show type series so much! Everyone's personality mesh so well 🔥

[@kingcsage6824]

a lot to say but. When it comes to peaks OP is unbeatble, it dosent have the best peaks only in anime and manga, but in fiction itself

[@kingcsage6824]

​@ైుⱤ₳ᏳÏη₲ŞÄΐϒĄÑైృ u right i didnt say it right. what i mean is the competiton for OP is not just anime and manga but the whole fiction genre and all storys as a whole

[@_rashidisaiah]

@ైుⱤ₳ᏳÏη₲ŞÄΐϒĄÑైృ watch Zoro vs King…he’s not lying

[@kingcsage6824]

@@khametrick im talking about quolity story, not just influens. when it comes to story is one of the best in the business

[@kingcsage6824]

@@khametrick bro, Oda is literally 11th best author in human history its not that hard to check it

[@kingcsage6824]

@@khametrick oh my bad he's actually 10th. just type " List of best-selling fiction authors " and see

[@digi601]

Fmb edward giving up alchemy all together is what makes it the greatest. Gave everything he has gained throught the series to bring his brother back is what this entire series was about. Absolute peak and no anime has reach a peak such as that

[@alexandrekim3839]

That dude with the hat made example like call of duty, pokemon being consistent but the big difference is that OP have an amazing history with amazing characters, scenes, fights, and plot. OP in not a franchiese, it is a all-around history that each chapter can contain a key element to the plot.

[@ColorlessCreations]

The look of pure disappointment when one piece lost 💀

[@animations4081]

I would of won this challenge with fairy tail it would of been easy for me also love the creativity rob been watching for over a year now

[@bumjydnz]

Respect

[@thmistrapillay1811]

I love Fairytail ✊️❤️‍🔥😭

[@zenii7415]

I would of picked bleach

[@2301WAYNE]

Even though I do think FMB is the perfect anime but One Piece definelty has the most peaks in the anime history when I heard big decision or changing plot the peaks got even way bigger that it might break even fiction from the moment it started specially in manga thanks losing his arm in chapter 1 to zoro declaring he won't lose again and his loyalty proven again and again Or Sabaody Archaepeligo Fluffy losing his crew got topped in Impel Down With Tense moments to The Next Entire Marinefird Arc Is Peak I Mean Every Sing ke Second Was Peak, One Piece Has so many peaks that so many people have tiger own moment and arc when it became their most favourite To Barati To Along Park To Water 7 To Enies Lobby To Sabaody To Impel Down To Marineford There's No Going back after Marineford The Peak is the main reason why I Think All People Love One Peice Deep Down Because Of That.

[@lagitrap4431]

Amazing video man, you should do this more often if possible

[@roby4215]

The girl who tried to say that cyberpunk's cast is better that dbz should really quit watching anime, although she never watched an anime longer than 12 episodes

[@Mondoo832]

I’m no librarian or teacher but the explanation given from 17:47 is the definition of each arc in OP. Yes it’s not a completed story but in each arc you get the “completed, from beginning to end” which is what makes all of the Peaks in One Piece. Brotherhood is amazing and definitely don’t want to discredit anything that makes the show amazing but the stance on the argument felt like it took a huge turn when the librarian thing was flexed.

[@gamigun280]

@@khametrick bro peaks doesn’t have to happen at the end of the story though idk what bullshit you guys been listening to but peaks are usually what happen in a certain part of the story that was hype or the best simple.

[@malik5531]

@@gamigun280 True the literal argument I would say the peak is just a part of the story that has the highest point of emotion. Each Arc has components of a full story (i.e. exposition, rising action, climax/peak, falling action, and resolution) so it not being completed is a stupid argument.

[@Karmanara]

Im copy and pasting my comment on ones like yours: peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series

[@malik5531]

@@Karmanara do arcs not have a peak? The question was Peaks not the climax to the story as a whole. Tbh it seems the question wasn’t worded right what I think they meant was greatest moments.

[@Karmanara]

@@malik5531 yeah if they said greatest moments of course OP should have won, but its not THE peak if it hasn’t reached the climax yet. Calling a great moment in a story peak is the same as saying I reached the top of mount Everest even though I only stopped at ONE of its points and not THE highest point.

[@sirlordmrharmony]

imagine actually calling one piece mid. how can a story so large be mid

[@whatareyou12]

Think One Piece deserved to win but FMAB is DEFINITELY an Amazing Anime

[@janmartinez-w1q]

As a protagonist i think Goku is underrated. Frieza saga. Goku vs Frieza happens, they think they win and let their guards down, Frieza kills Krillin in front of Goku, he goes SSJ. For the first time EVER Goku yells at Gohan, showing that his emotions aren't in control, he proceeds to fold Frieza like a lawn chair so bad tht he gave him some KI and let him live. He better than me fr cuz Frieza wouldve been dead the second he split himself in half. Frieza Just killed his childhood best friend and all his other friends, HIS SON Frieza beat the bricks off the kid. And he has the heart and the Humanity to let Frieza Live, and only kills Frieza out of self defense. In the Cell Saga due to his son's inability to Kill Cell because of his arrogance, Goku paid the ultimate price, which was his live. Without a second thought he sacrificed his live to save EVERYONE on Earth. Instead of being angry at his son for being arrogant and not listening to him, he praised him and told him he was the man of the house now, passing of the crown if you will. With a smile on his face he gave his life up, then told them to NOT to bring him back because he realized that its because of him that this bad things keep happening, which was true do to the fact that Frieza returned as Mecha Frieza with his Squad to Earth since thats where he lives, The Saiyans, since Radditz remembered Goku was sent down there to Take over the planet, since it was low level, they could sell it. Then Nappa and Radditz. lol I rest my case, its crazy to say Goku lacked Humanity. He certainly had flaws too that have costed him and directly affected those closest to him and people not involved. I rest my case, Goku is a better protagonist then Ed. Not saying Ed isnt an Elite protagonist. Dbz Goku didnt take personalities, Goku laid out the blueprints and the other MC's took notes.

[@Yuanlupu]

The claim that "Saying FMAB has more peaks than OP is crazy" can be further strengthened by providing additional evidence and analysis. While it is true that FMAB has a single significant peak at the end, it does not imply that OP lacks a fully developed story buildup or a satisfying conclusion. In fact, OP offers a unique narrative structure with multiple peaks throughout the series, each contributing to the overarching story arc. Firstly, OP encompasses a vast and intricate world filled with diverse characters, each with their own personal journeys and storylines. This multifaceted approach allows for numerous climactic moments and peaks throughout the show. From the intense battles and emotional revelations in the Enies Lobby arc to the dramatic confrontation with Whitebeard during the Marineford War, OP consistently delivers high-stakes and emotionally impactful moments that resonate with viewers. Furthermore, OP's storytelling is characterized by a well-crafted sense of mystery and continuous unraveling of plotlines. The show presents numerous mysteries and unanswered questions, keeping the audience engaged and eagerly anticipating each revelation. Whether it's the enigmatic history of the Void Century or the true nature of Devil Fruits, OP excels at creating an intricate web of secrets that gradually unfold over time. Additionally, OP's peaks are not limited to the final arc alone. Throughout the series, there are several self-contained story arcs that offer their own climaxes and resolutions. From the Arlong Park arc, which explores themes of justice and prejudice, to the emotionally charged Water 7 and Enies Lobby arcs, which delve into themes of friendship and sacrifice, OP consistently delivers impactful narrative peaks that contribute to the overall depth and richness of the story. In conclusion, while FMAB may have a singular, powerful peak at its conclusion, it is important to recognize that OP's peaks are spread throughout the series, providing a diverse range of climactic moments and contributing to a fully developed and satisfying narrative. OP's ability to maintain a sense of mystery, unravel complex plotlines, and deliver emotionally resonant peaks at various points in the story sets it apart and makes it a compelling and engaging anime series.

[@PHANTOM-wz9el]

I WOULD GIVE MY LIFE FOR ONE PIECE ❤

[@plazmaboi2142]

Same😂

[@morocuda2090]

Me fr

[@200135673]

Fr that peak argument for fma was weak

[@Jeydon_20]

My boi Rob kept getting attack by Gabe anytime he see a chance to attack one piece. W vid and was funny to watch, keep up the bangerrr vids Rob

[@usnerdswillbenerds4889]

I just gotta say that I think it speaks volumes about One Piece's quality and longevity that the best argument that can be made against it are worst-case what-if scenarios. I woulda just ended the argument right there lol. You gotta IMAGINE a world where my show is bad to make an argument? Ok yeah, go ahead and finish what you were saying haha.

[@abelsenpai97]

What she described for FMAB about the peak of getting his brothers body back is basically her describing impel Down and marineford Luffy trying to save his brother even tho it’s not the same ending it’s the same story.. trying to do everything and anything to save your brother

[@Rob_Lucci_]

In Fullmetal Alchemist, there were serious risks with characters you had come to love being in constant danger, the characters in the war of the best were people we barely knew, there were only three deaths in the whole Arc, the threat wasn't as present in Marine Ford, meanwhile FMAB shows real world problems like what happened with Rose, and is also able to show more threats like how the humonculi are portrayed throughout the show, how people get manipulated by them, and that anyone we have gotten to know can die at any, meanwhile majority of the people in MarineFord where really strong and had very little chance of dying except Ace, Oars JR. and Whitebeard.

[@asqiaverlita9662]

​@@Rob_Lucci_well bc one piece origanlly never show anyone dying or death as the main focus or threath but that doesnt mean OP is not showing how dark the world is and that makes OP so great

[@zxcvb3772]

@@Rob_Lucci_ In the end, which main characters from FMAB died?

[@Rob_Lucci_]

@@zxcvb3772 No main Characters, but there were several near death instances for them, but a lot of side characters died.

[@heisenberg6235]

brainless comment

[@AnimatorBlake]

It is an absolute crime that our DB defender didn't bring up the animation quality of the latest movies. Incredible marvels and innovative technologies. He could have made an amazing showing with Shintani's work on Broly. He's sad for that, and I'm mad for his hatin-ass against One Piece.

[@darkestshinobi3958]

becoming the pirate king wasnt even the final goal for luffy. And just because it isnt finished and hasnt reached its final peak doesnt mean fullmetal takes it. Infact the peak of fullmetal doesnt even touch any of the MANY peaks in one piece so the fact rob let that slide is crazy. Fullmetal is great and i loved watching i cant think of a single category that one piece loses to it in. Same goes to samurai champloo Other then consistently good episodes.

[@ImchautzuCHAUTZU]

I respect that Rob took that L, but you did kinda sell. Sje had an amazing argument but i thi k you just didnt have a good enough rebuttal. I feel like jsut because we haven't reached "THE peak" that doesn't automatically make the other peaks have less weight. I still think COMPARITAVELY Oda just builds up to the peaks of each arc SOO much better than almost anyone else. It always hits you like a truck because Oda is phenomenal when it comes to setup and building hype(he's been in the game for 25 years) so i still think it shouldve been a wash for One Piece. I also just think it would've been fun to see rob somehow lose to gabe at the end bc he says some "luffy is a goku clone" type shi(preferably in the "shanks is a haki man" voice)

[@YouAreDone]

DBS Super Hero and Broly for Animation. Case Closed.

[@dremz7102]

I'm assuming they were talking about the animation from only dbz, not super

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

@@dremz7102 they were bringing up super goku in the discussion for main character

[@Samsince04]

lol how did One Piece lose in the peaks category ? Literally every time that OVERTAKEN plays, there's a peak moment about to happen.

[@nikgokuhil]

I put FMA above OP atm cause it nailed the ending. A good ending can make or break an anime But while I would say that FMA is a lot more consistently good of anime, OP has had much better peaks I differ on how they defined peak, yes, the ending was good, but was it the most impactful thing? The thing that hit the hardest in FMA was Nina and Hughes I dont think that OP ever hurt me like Nina did, but it has a lot more amazing moments like a funeral and a certain character sacrificing himself so that others can escape. OP hits those high notes a lot and more frequently. We focus on things like 'Nothing Happened', but OP has so much more, like Alabasta alone had so many good moments. Cool moments of Ace, Luffy almost dying multiple times, an old man believing in his king and trying to restore the oasis, Mr Prince to rescue, Luffy beating up Vivi, Usopp's making a stand cause they laughed at Luffy's dream, Nami saying the pain she endures was nothing compared to Vivi's, Zoro surpassing himself, Pell's sacrifice, Vivi crying at top of her lungs to stop fighting, the eventual rain, a naked king bowing his head to pirates, Bon chan's sacrifice, the raised fists with X mark on them

[@zxcvb3772]

That's what I am saying in my other comment, FMAB is a very consistent show, if the topic was consistency, I would probably give it to FMAB because One Piece is so long that it's bound to have some highs and lows, but if we're arguing peaks, One Piece all day every day.

[@xhifang]

She really tried to compare animation with 90s anime💀

[@kirusan7681]

1 year ago we had Dragon ball super Broly, we had Dragon ball super super hero, we got naotoshi shida, naoki tate, yuya takahashi we got kubota and many other animators that worked on the dbs tournement of power and the movies after that and still complained about animation ? Das crazy

[@xhifang]

@@kirusan7681 1 year ago?😂

[@kirusan7681]

@@xhifang uhm, yes ? A year ago we still had dbs broly available on our phones. Welcome to reality 💀

[@siddotaku3980]

Bro you literally the best KZbinr out there ! Love your vids . Oh and one more thing FMAB has more consistent peaks but One Piece's peaks are higher IMO

[@BalbirYaduvanshi07]

One piece is so consistent that what you saw in ep 100 is still viable on ep 1000, the more episodes you have the more risk you have of consistency

[@roshu7625]

Dragon ball Z is just best anime ever no doubt about it. Everybody knows Goku he is so iconic and became part of our lives,but i respect other anime shows too

[@kaveeshanilupul1238]

20:44 you must be kidding me.... Like fr

[@zacurrya9485]

The one piece vs fma arguement would have only made sense if it was about consistency but when you look at the peaks alone one piece has higher peaks

[@blazer6972]

A small part of me dies everytime gabe called one piece mid.

[@foxos7776]

Hot take: The vid was over after One Piece vs Full metal, cause they where the best 2 on the list. And anyone else that made it to the finale was doomed to fail.

[@xenxicc]

I like how they’re talking like businessmen over anime

[@ibunkie]

It’s ironic the debate that CP:ER doesn’t have plot when DBZ has trashed its own plot SEVERAL times..

[@stevenchen9852]

Tbh CP shouldn’t be here. It’s not in this tier yet and I hate when people compare an anime with 10 ep with an anime that has over 500. Since it’s too hard. Also dragon ball has emotional value in people’s hearts in which CP doesn’t have. I think one piece, bleach, naruto, dragon ball should be in its own thing and than sao, full metal, and cyber punk should been it’s own thing. It would make the arguments better. To make it more clear let me put it this way, long anime’s have arc some good some bad each arc has its own thing. Short anime doesn’t it’s just one thing. For example how do you compare one piece and CP. some one piece arcs are better and some one piece arc are worst. Same with dragon ball, cuz if your telling me buu saga and android saga was worst than CP your smoking something but than again CP is Better than baby saga and whatever tf the black star dragon arc was about

[@PHANTOM-wz9el]

These types of videos are my favourite😂

[@Ratsos12]

Even Syrup Village had a higher peak than absolutely anything in FMA. They got Merry Go, and that’s often considered one of the worst Arcs in One Piece. The other “worst” arc, Dresserosa, we got Gear 4, The Fleet, God Ussop, Zoro in a suit, and hand drawn lettuce. All higher peaks than anything in FMA. The One Piece manga is better than the anime though, so peaks on peaks.

[@norberto3]

you're insane if you think acquiring Merry Go is considered a "peak". that's easily one of most forgettable moments in the series hands down. hell, king bradley taking out a tank *alone* was much more of a peak than ALL of syrup village. i won't deny the fact that one piece does have some of the best "peaks"/moments, but i feel like you're overlooking what FMA(B) has to offer. also that first sentence was glazin' as hell 😂😂

[@Ratsos12]

@@norberto3 Bradley? Oh the wrath guy, I guess he was ok. Honestly I’d put every moment of Armstrong screen time above anything the Sins did in all of FMA, still, I only hear you saying it was better than Syrup village… the least hype arc in all of One Piece.

[@computerbr9344]

The dickriding is insane

[@skarma9673]

It’s hard to go up against One Piece ’cause the only real issue that One Piece has is the slow pacing (not always slow but when it is, you can’t deny it’s annoying)... apart from that there’s nothing bad you can really talk about...

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

There’s a lot of bad I can say about op

[@karlowinffotter1339]

Like what?

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

@@karlowinffotter1339 bloated cast, inconsistent power system, horrible fight choreography (borderline pokemon levels of bad), really slow plot , lack of clarification for a lot of things, constant use of silhouettes, inconsistent character designs……. Since this is an anime KZbin channel.. problems that are exclusive or highlighted in the anime are bad pacing, bad filler, long recaps, bad ost, inconsistent animation, over the top animation for wano (zoro has light sabers), bad sound design and art. Also I find the fans to be pretty annoying given how butthurt everyone in this comment section is about minor criticism about one piece. Not saying other fanbases aren’t just as bad or cringe, but it’s pretty obvious in this video.

[@karlowinffotter1339]

@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou so far the only thing that I can agree on what you said is bad pacing and inconsistent animation. The rest I disagree. But I do respect your opinion. I gotta admit, I also agree on what you said that the fanbase can be annoying as well but let's be real, every anime fanbase has some kind of toxicity and annoyingness at a certain degree.

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

@@karlowinffotter1339 I agree, dragon ball fans recently have become super cringe. But op is on a different level. There are almost no rant videos on yt and the ones that aren’t hidden are usually ratioed. The comments in this video are clowning the video because of some mild criticism of op. They won’t hesitate to call full metal bad though or mediocre despite being on mal’s top list consistently. Fair enough though, I can understand why some people think this.

[@apexpredator750]

I think alot of people dont give SAO the credit it deserves 😭💯

[@adventuresinbasicreality219]

I would win every one of these because anyone else’s argument would be out of the question for me.

[@ForneverWorld]

🔥🔥🔥 content

[@ShonenShowdown]

Thank you bro 🙏🏾

[@Tatto_op]

Before i use to be salty bout the one piece hate but now i just fine it funny asf

[@darkwhispersstories47]

Welcome to our table with Bleach fans and I am glad we are no longer alone at this table 😁

[@dhg-1242]

It's not hate people just need to stop acting like one piece is perfection when it's not it also has it's moments of ass pulls and weak characters and issues

[@thehobbyist7275]

Do we agree that Full Metal Alchemist is one of the best shonen of all time and the best female-written shonen of all time? I certainly think so and I'd love to start that debate. Not even Demon Slayer comes close to Full Metal

[@FenrirWesson-mp5ls]

100% FACT I don't even understand the haters who can't stand that One Piece lost.

[@thehobbyist7275]

@@FenrirWesson-mp5ls Me personally, I think Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure could win all the categories that they picked

[@FenrirWesson-mp5ls]

@@thehobbyist7275 I admit that the video would have been even more interesting if there had been someone to represent the Jojo. I love JoJo's bizarre adventure, even if I have trouble with some details (like the treatment of animals which almost made me give up several times, but I'm glad I insisted and continued watching)

[@thehobbyist7275]

@@FenrirWesson-mp5ls what's your favorite part?

[@lolztony]

Cyberpunk vs DBZ made me realize I really wanna see someone dismantle Cyberpunk in debate for a whole video lol She had 0 points on why cyberpunk/David was well written, and the points she did have were just straight up inaccurate lmao Cyberpunk winning Anime of the year is a joke tbh, and just a testament to the masses of people being swept away by visuals and music, rather than actual story and character depth.

[@Frieswithnoketchup]

The category was "Peaks" as in which story contains the best moments and best reveals, the story doesn't need to be finished in order to have a peak, one piece has several arcs, all with finished stories, all with their own peaks and climaxes, luffy's journey is the only one that hasn't reached its absolute peak yet, that doesn't mean we should ignore the countless other peaks given to us throughout the entire story.

[@marc-oliviercormier9666]

OP is the best with the peaks it had! Im sure that everyone who watches the show can imagine how not simple the One Piece truly is. imo, its not gonna be just a simple treasure but something even better, like information, history or just the meaning of piracy in their world. I think they underestimated how powerfull OP peaks are and how suprising this anime can turn around without warning. I think people also forget that its not about the goals(peaks) overall but the journey they took to get to them❤

[@riotaku820]

BABE WAKE UP SHONEN SHOWDOWN JUST POSTED

[@SauceJL]

In the terms of the peak catagory i think it shoulve been explained more on how you would determine the peak/peaks of those shows, the argument that Ak had on Fmab was great and if you define peak like she did i agree with fmab winning that however how can you determine the "peak" of a show that hasnt hit its climax yet? Fm has concluded its story and has already hit its peak/climax one piece hasnt, now both have their own peaks/moments key word (peaks/moments) in both shows respectively and i think thats how the topic shouldve went so both fm and one piece can be seen on a common ground and that you can argue which series had those better peaks/moments between the two.Thats like with the fight topic with code geass and dragon ball do you go off which one is more iconic which dragon ball obviously wins or which fights had good structure to them cuz both series have that,it wasnt really as detailed you feel me.

[@Big_Bad_Brown75]

DB should have won protagonist no question. I know Goku has had so.e major regression, but he's still has his confidence, hard work, kindness, selflessness, and the ability to fix his mistakes. The whole fmb cast has nothing on that. Db also should win animation. Goku vs Jiren > whole fmab animation

[@malyrbt7093]

I feel like half of them dont know One Piece. They just know words like Luffy and king of the pirates

[@LifeWithAnimePodcast]

There is only way this should have ended, and FMAB winning is it! Good job AK.

[@thousandhunny]

THANK UUUUU❤

[@sevenstarofheaven]

Fmab fans here chill 😆😄

[@TheBestDonutKing]

Always good when rob posts

[@grimthedisappointed7711]

A singular arc in One Piece has better peaks than the entirety of FMAB; Gabe didn't even give One Piece a chance and was just straight up biased and didn't want One Piece to win that round, so of course he had to go with its competitor.

[@SPREET5454]

He's a massive Naruto fan that went into One Piece hating, gave up after Marineford somehow and just makes shitting on One Piece his whole personality.

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

For real. One piece is so consistent. I think there are like 6 or 7 arcs in one piece that I like better than all of fma:b. Alabasta, enis lobby, marineford, wano, dressrosa, whole cake,

[@whitebeardpirates1261]

"Nothing happened" "I want to live" "One piece is real" "Save me luffy" "Joy boy has returned" Some of the PEAKS of one piece

[@Kjkant]

the only argument they had against one piece is it wasn't finished, and they just discredited the whole show just because of that reason.

[@themightysapien]

Brotherhood peak beats OP's because we haven't seen the last peak of OP 🤣🤣. I finished BG but cannot go back to enjoy any of the peaks but ONE PIECE makes me rewatch so many peaks again and again.

[@yeetusdefeetus4601]

a peak to me is simple, best moment. And one piece just has better best moments than FMAB simple as, but i'm not an english teacher so what do I know,

[@BigBallsLover6969]

OP hasn’t even finished and it’s already better then fma better world building, better villains, bigger overall, influence on media, not saying fmab is bad just not on one pieces level. They are not the same.

[@Karmanara]

@@yeetusdefeetus4601 exactly what you said my guy. Best moment. The climax. The PEAK ITSELF. OP hasn’t reached that part of the story yet

[@Karmanara]

peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series.

[@yeetusdefeetus4601]

@@Karmanara It's interesting how they use the plural for peak in the category,they said 'peaks' suggesting a show can have multiple peaks, suggesting peaks refers to best moments. It could just be plural for the 2 anime in the debate but I feel like they would have used the word climax or ending instead of peak..

[@maods5056]

I should've been in this. I would've won with yu yu hakusho easily!

[@dizzyb2309]

No, you would have absolutely lost. It's easy to shred that series with all the friendship powerups and deus ex machinas

[@maods5056]

"friendship power ups" have you even seen yyh?

[@dizzyb2309]

​@@maods5056Are we pretending Yu Yu Hakusho is not rife with friendship powerups? So your strategy would have been to be completely disingenuous in your arguments? lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYDSinhvdsSUhsU ^ What say you ?

[@maods5056]

@@dizzyb2309 just by looking at your other comments on this channel I've come to a conclusion that you're just a delusional weirdo that starts problems online just to be dramatic. So catch this block and bye :)

[@xmetalgamerx]

It’s a mistake to believe that OP fans only keep watching because they’re fans. People have other things to do! We only watch because we genuinely want to know what happens, and Oda somehow never disappoints.

[@bigdog1627wooper]

Isn’t it funny how almost all of his points for dragon ball in the finals are also easily able to be used for one piece

[@labooje2662]

As a butthurt OP fan, I wanna point out that our boy was the only guy who had even watched OP enough to debate it so there's no point in trying to explain it to people who think the One Piece is just gonna be some simple treasure. As an adult, man this debate is wild.