[Deferred Resignation] Part 1: Legitimacy, Distrust & Uncertainty

[@StrikingBBQ]

I think a lot of concern of the legitimacy of the program is the lack of leadership buy in. Everything is coming out faceless. No leaders in my org (HHS) have shown support. Everything comes from departments, not people.

[@scoutfrenchie9558]

court case from 1990 in which the supreme court ruled that employees are not entitled to receive benefits/pay due to false information provided from OPM. They said that "no money can be paid from the treasury unless specifically authorized by a statute." There has been no authorized statute for this deferred resignation offer.

[@KAZHE63]

This is so disturbing that they would lie to and con tens of thousands of employees? We are going to have never-ending lawsuits

[@anangelshero0410]

OPM v. Richmond, 496 U.S. 414 (1990)

[@TruthAndJustice463]

Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video.

[@dmhipkins]

Thank you - I’m considering this offer with a letter from my agency listing the the terms in writing.

[@mconnors211]

Did you receive last night’s email from OPM? Please read Q&As - you must first accept offer, and then you’ll get specifics from your agency.

[@dmhipkins]

@ no, I didn’t see a new letter yet.

[@mikeb1336]

@@mconnors211 What happen if I don't agree with the the specifics ? Agency have the power to release you once you hit the resign?

[@Handymanprocess]

Another fantastic video. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and thoughts on this sensitive topic. You are providing a great service to all Feds.

[@ajax3039]

Can u talk about the deferred resignation/early retirement when OPM granted the agency VERA but the agency has not sent guidance by Feb.6.

[@sunnyw9598]

Great information and I share all Profeds videos with my colleagues and they love these podcasts!

[@mikeb1336]

What happen if I don't agree with the the specifics ? Agency have the power to release you once you hit the resign? plus once you resign, are you able to rescind it or that up to the agency.

[@MrTonylee40]

Great information! Thank you Devil Dog!

[@techbranchsm]

What do you think about the bill on the floor to do away with FERS retirement benefits like the FERS supplimental, healty insurance and calculation based on high 5 versus the high 3? If it passes in March how do you think it woupd apply to those who take the retire/resign deal?

[@marvinjenkins4901]

This is so scary. I retired in 2020 and feel sorry for those affected negatively by this administration. BUT if you voted for this administration, then you are getting what you supported.

[@JesusUCSB]

Im a probationary employee... I took it. Waiting OPM

[@sammieseoul5544]

Probationary also.. I don't think I will survive this with only being in for 2 months. I am strongly considering this but crushed over having to even consider this.

[@BrittonianLay]

@@sammieseoul5544 I am freshly new. I've been only a week. Lose lose situation for us.

[@whatevertheheck13is]

Same boat, just going to roll the dice and see if I can survive the next 5 months

[@tanfel4]

I don't think you had to take the Buyout (Deferred Resignation). Probationary employees that have poor performance may be targeted, but that is not now, but later.

[@butterflygirl3359]

@@sammieseoul5544I would stay put. There will likely be A LOT of litigation about the legality of any and all of this. They have less power than they are portraying and throwing outrageous shi* out to see what sticks. Wait it out-time is on your side-I’m guessing your not pushing 80 and required to retire in three years😂

[@bradshort1038]

This was one of the more helpful webinars without the conspiracy theories.

[@stanmagicman]

My EPP, TSP and GRB Platform are accessible from home once you get set up with your non-government Email.

[@happyfool2277]

Great video. Thanks. Where is eOPF located?

[@cwdel]

I only hear about benefits being paid through Sept 30. What about continuing FEHB if you retire, because if you do this with a deferred "resignation", is that the catch? Are you still eligible AFTER Sept 30?

[@CarlosRodriguez-ox3bg]

I am stuck I cannot take advantage of the deferred resignation Or VERA My Agency has exempted most of its employees from these early out programs

[@markmurrell1894]

One of my questions is which organizations are considered “national security”? I’m a DoD employee but there are individuals that have taken the offer at my office

[@mrs.marple2268]

wondering the same...my deputy says our ORG doesn't know the answer either.

[@becausegreen4650]

If my husband is 65 in April 2025 and his 20 yrs is in November 2025, can he take this deferred retirement/ resignation and get his insurance and life insurance and benefits once he retires with this program?

[@SomeGuyFromUtah]

This is just my theory based on general understanding of government authority and bargaining protections etc. 1. People will still be considered employed until Sept 30th which means they will be entitled to a paycheck, so budgeting decisions can't exclude these "deferred" resignations. 2. Our employer has the right to assign work, meaning they also have the right to NOT assign work. As the embodiment of the executive branch, the president is ultimately our employer, which means he has the authority to not assign work to people who accept deferred resignation. Now all that being said... most people I work with (at the IRS) don't really have a lot of job skills that would translate well into the private sector, so I don't think many people are taking this offer. I imagine this is largely true across the board. Many IRS employees have very specific job responsibilities and understand how to use very specific computer systems or are familiar with specific information on government forms, and none of that translates into a similar paying job in the private sector.

[@_TJ99]

The tax payer is your employer. The president is not

[@alexemoser]

See OPM v. Richmond, 496 U.S. 414 (1990). Richmond lost this case because government agents are not liable for disseminating incorrect information. In this case, if the money never arrives, you likely have no recourse.

[@tanfel4]

It was a total of 10 days to respond to OPM. Jan 28 - Feb 6. Still not enough time.

[@01akqueen]

Cant return to office. Organization not eligible for Deferred resignation. Over 30 years of service and not eligiblento retire. UGH!

[@rayr1861]

If anyone has 100’s of hours of sick leaves in addition to the regular vacation hours, are they going to compensate the sick days under this deferred resignation program?

[@RickyBobby-j4m]

My agency said they will only pay out annual leave not sick.

[@rayr1861]

If anyone is not 57 or 62 years of age yet but worked in federal Job as full time for more than 5 years, are they going to lose the pension payment at age 62 under this deferred registration program?

[@CarlosRodriguez-ox3bg]

No you are supposed to be vested. Downside is your annuity will be based on your last three years and so the amount will be subject to inflation. Also you have to wait until 62 to collect the annuity

[@rayr1861]

I Understand the inflation issues. My main question is, if we will lose the delayed pension at 62 even after working at Federal job for 5 plus years if we take this offer.

[@CarlosRodriguez-ox3bg]

@ if you work five years you are vested. You resign and then apply for deferred retirement at 62

[@Grammy52]

My parents were federal employees, and I retired from the FAA after 26+ years. There is no such thing as deferred resignation. An email is NOT an official offer. If you resign by February 6th .. voluntarily .. you are on your own.

[@AnotherPilot1]

Id like to see what this would look like on an SF-50.

[@God1stLovedUs]

I am 61 with 38 years of federal service. I already qualify for full retirement but I was waiting til 62 to retire. I want to do this but not clear if I can extend til December. I know they claim they will extend to qualify for retirement but I want to extend til age 62 to get the extra 10% on my pension.

[@prasa2097]

Does this deferred resignation program will it applies to the federal-term employees?

[@DEWOYNE16]

We have been locked out of eOPM tried to log in today and it didn't recognize any of my information

[@Grammy52]

I had that problem Friday. I tried to reset my password online, but got an email telling me to call because only a real person could help. Of course, I got a recording saying try back later. Then, I saw this weekend that Musk and his sux college aged engineers have taken control of SSA, OPM, GSA, and the Treasury Dept.

[@SaxyDong]

I considered this offer but My agency sent an email that we are not eligible because our Agency is "national security" well what I do is not national security, it its compensations related for the general public, not the govrnment. makes no sense..

[@victorking2365]

What about medical disability retirement, would you recommend defer this retirement until 30 Sept 2025?

[@superduperhappyfuntime]

17:00 Bookmarked for personal situation.

[@mconnors211]

Everything depends on President Musk - Period. Full Stop.

[@eugenesmith5903]

i'm in part time status, 32 hrs/week. i got the fork email, but it says 'full time'. can i still resign?

[@mconnors211]

Not with benefits - only FT employees

[@Alabasterbaks]

👌

[@voiceoverbyluis]

Do you think there will be a major VERA for all agencies soon?

[@mconnors211]

OPM announced VERA last Friday

[@voiceoverbyluis]

@ thank you so much. I will check it out. Usually, it’s Agency specific but I’ll check it out.

[@kenhart2516]

Essential staff is a gray area too

[@kentyen4246]

Hi, I like to be completely clear on my understanding after watching your video, OPM came out with additional FAQ this weekend regarding employee eligible to retire under VERA, however my understanding is VERA needs to be OFFER to each employee by each agency, How do I know if my agency has this authority ? I have not seen any communication from my agency regarding VERA. All communication from local agency is regarding telework.

[@redtressartistrybyladonisa9839]

OPM grants VERA to the agencies.

[@kentyen4246]

@redtressartistrybyladonisa9839 so I don't need to hear from local agency regarding VERA offer. I can accept the Defer resignation, and if I meet the age and year requirement for VERA, then my agency will have no choice but to process my VERA?

[@robertmcneil1295]

Im doing it

[@hiruu]

The details are what protects federal employees, and the speed with which they are trying this is suspect. Take this offer, if you’d like, based on your circumstances. Personally, I’m career and I’ve no interest in taking this offer (if you can call it that).

[@markmark3743]

Can we work for the federal government at a different agency other than our agency again couple months later?

[@fedimpact-profeds]

You're certainly welcome to apply, but if we're still in a hiring freeze situation, that might be tough.

[@markmark3743]

@@fedimpact-profeds I already have an offer with the military waiting for the security clearance process to be finalized. They have no hiring freeze. So, am I good to go?

[@ste-ce1977]

@@markmark3743Why not ask the HR specialist processing you at the agency?

[@brockjennings]

​​@markmark3743 I wouldn't say you're home free. You typically start as a career conditional employee, which are the most vulnerable when it comes to a reduction in force (RIF).