Epic Rap Battles of History Alexander the Great vs Ivan the Terrible Reaction

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Definitely Not Definitive

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@bknpnck
@bknpnck 4 ай бұрын
Great breakdown on this, and funny that your mixed reaction on Frederick is how some of the fans see him because they either love him for the energy and performance or they think he was overhyped given that his lines don't feel like a battle rap East vs West Philosophers is also put on a similar pedestal to this battle if you want a recommendation for one that plays with the battle structure
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 4 ай бұрын
😎👍🙂 that’s one we for sure plan on checking out
@dukerollo1116
@dukerollo1116 4 ай бұрын
Fredrick the great unfortunately gets a bad reputation because a certain funny mustached failed painter admired him
@joeturton6627
@joeturton6627 4 ай бұрын
its such a shame that Frederick was mischaracterised as a symbol of the Prussian military, when he hated war and his domestic reforms in Prussia were really the gamechanger.
@littlekuribohimposte
@littlekuribohimposte 4 ай бұрын
@@joeturton6627 He was sogood at war because his father was the one whomade the Prussian military the first ptofessional soldiers in Europe. But he did master the art of war, in order to pursue the arts of peace.
@murderofcrows5089
@murderofcrows5089 4 ай бұрын
Pretty ironic too given Fredrick was more than likely gay and that’s something the nazi’s didn’t like
@Swissswoosher
@Swissswoosher 4 ай бұрын
Funny how said moustache man loved Frederick, who was both (almost certainly) gay AND a Freemason, two groups persecuted by him.
@mejestin
@mejestin 4 ай бұрын
The man still had great attached to his name, it's already makes him better then billions 😬
@Crazael
@Crazael 4 ай бұрын
9:36 Important things about Fredrick the Great for the purposes of this rap: 1. He was very likely gay. He only very reluctantly married and had a life long male companion. 2. He was a master general and military leader. 3. He was also quite fond of the arts and played the flute. 4. He died sitting in his favorite chair. For more info, the KZbin channel Extra History has a series about him.
@filipvadas7602
@filipvadas7602 4 ай бұрын
Of all the ERBs this one I think is consistently in people's Top 10. Its THAT good!
@joeturton6627
@joeturton6627 4 ай бұрын
its my favourite, made me learn who Frederick and Catherine were.
@japerow
@japerow 4 ай бұрын
Ivan's raspy voice, accompanied by the monotonous beat, and added with the time-lapsing dusky sky background in the Red Square, is probably one of the hardest ERB openings of all time. I like how Peter played him, and this is definitely one of his greatest performances along with Austin Powers and Oppenheimer. The battle is entertaining, as is how it's been formatted like a play, and has many historical references. This is my favorite ERB of all time. I suggest Eastern Philosophers vs. Western Philosophers next!
@Bobal27
@Bobal27 4 ай бұрын
11:29 What’s hilarious is that Pompey was given equal treatment to those who went before him. He was beheaded during his first speech as a leader, so his verse perfectly matched his reign, just as the others’ did, right down to the detail of how he died being included.
@Bifito
@Bifito 2 ай бұрын
First speech? Wasn't he beheaded after he was captured by the egyptians during the civil war?
@samiraansari5686
@samiraansari5686 Ай бұрын
Pompey didn‘t „reign“ in that sense at all- he was leading an army on behalf of the senate, trying to keep Caesar from winning. He was beheaded when he tried to appeal for help.
@Bobal27
@Bobal27 Ай бұрын
@@samiraansari5686 I agree 100%. His verse matched his reign: non-existent.
@So_Viet8032
@So_Viet8032 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact: in Russia, we don't call Ivan the Terrible as Terrible. We call him something like Ivan the Fearsome
@theinsurance2450
@theinsurance2450 4 ай бұрын
Of course comrade you would do that
@So_Viet8032
@So_Viet8032 4 ай бұрын
@@theinsurance2450 you know, if you compare things that he did and things that some european leaders of medieval Europe has done - you wouldn't call him "terrible"
@theinsurance2450
@theinsurance2450 4 ай бұрын
@@So_Viet8032 What kind of defense is that. People were worst so therefore he not so bad. "Well I know this drunk driver k*ll 3 people but there been drunk drivers that k*lled 5 people. So he not so bad."
@stumilesyt
@stumilesyt 4 ай бұрын
@@So_Viet8032 I feel like its a lost-in-time language difference, "terrible" in modern English doesn't mean the same as back then. There's two meanings in modern English; terrible as in poor performance, like he was a bad leader, and terrible as in he did terrible things, but neither of those are the original meaning. The original meaning (when applied as a title to a leader/monarch) meant he inspired fear and loyalty - which was seen as positive thing for monarchs. So yes you guys calling him "the fearsome" makes total sense as that's a synonym for the original meaning!
@XCC23
@XCC23 4 ай бұрын
@@stumilesyt Yep. It's linguistic drift in English. In the 1400s, English got a fancy new adjective, "terrible", meaning "inspiring terror". Ivan the Terrible is using terrible in that sense. Then 500 years of linguistic change occurred, and "terrible" as an adjective meaning "inspiring terror" was buried underneath "terrible" as an adjective meaning "of poor quality" in the early 1900s. Ivan the Terrifying would be the closest you could get if insisting on using terror as a root.
@MoisePicard-xe3sd
@MoisePicard-xe3sd 4 ай бұрын
ERB Eastern Philosophers vs. Western Philosophers is one that blow y'all out the water.
@RedKing12000
@RedKing12000 4 ай бұрын
Stan Lee vs Jim Henson is a real all-timer
@thesmilyguyguy9799
@thesmilyguyguy9799 4 ай бұрын
: )
@R3TR0_ST1LL
@R3TR0_ST1LL 4 ай бұрын
Yes pls! 🙏
@nolifealan9746
@nolifealan9746 4 ай бұрын
When Fredrick said "attacks tactics aren't exactly straight" it's about his type of method that helped prussia beat back much stronger enemies and also the fact that Fredrick was gay
@MoisePicard-xe3sd
@MoisePicard-xe3sd 4 ай бұрын
Y'all got an underrated ERB right here. 💯
@theevilsmurf88
@theevilsmurf88 4 ай бұрын
Meghan Tonjes, is the singer portraying Catherine the Great. She is an indie singer/songwriter. Very talented but her music style is very different than what is shown here.
@EyalItsik
@EyalItsik 4 ай бұрын
You guys are such a joy to watch
@abucket14
@abucket14 4 ай бұрын
A cool thing about this one is that each died in their proper way. Alexander was poisoned, Frederick died of natural causes (at an impressive age of 74 might I add), Pompey ruled for a short time before being beheaded, and Ivan, as stated by Alexander, died in the middle of a game of chess.
@shadowwriter329
@shadowwriter329 4 ай бұрын
One thing about this rap battle is that it has attention to detail that isn’t in the rap itself. And it comes down to the characters’ deaths. Alexander was rumored to have died from a poison drink. Frederick died while sleeping in a chair. And Pompey was said to have been killed before a great speech he was to give so that is why he didn’t even get rap. Even the ending line when Cathrine knocked over the chess piece, as said before Ivan died in the middle of a chess match so in a way she killed him here.
@oooeee5556
@oooeee5556 4 ай бұрын
"Man, I wish I could die in a rap battle." - Alexander the Great, Frederick the Great's final words, possibly.
@danielramsey6141
@danielramsey6141 4 ай бұрын
Pope’s Last Words…on the same Day 😂😂😂
@senorgato287
@senorgato287 4 ай бұрын
This is my most favorite ERB, the performances are great especially with Peter’s portrayal of Ivan giving him that villainous vibe which I like so much and the other rappers were just as great while having their funny moments I recommend reacting to Jeff Bezos vs Mansa Musa for another hilarious and great battle
@DiligentD
@DiligentD 4 ай бұрын
Heads up then for the couple and any other's that weren't aware or get the implication: The way all characters in the Rap die here is accurate to how they died in real life.....except Pompey haha
@bknpnck
@bknpnck 4 ай бұрын
Actually Pompey did get beheaded, his dome was famously sent to Caesar after he was killed (which Shaka Zulu referenced in their ERB)
@dukerollo1116
@dukerollo1116 4 ай бұрын
Pompey was actually beheaded
@undeathghost5627
@undeathghost5627 4 ай бұрын
Pompey is actually extremely accurate. He was beheaded and was attack mid-speech... thus why he gets only an introduction and no lines
@THEDisneyNerd
@THEDisneyNerd 4 ай бұрын
Wdym he was def rapping against Ivan The Terrible when he got killed
@StoryMing
@StoryMing 3 ай бұрын
Another ERB with surprise guests- George Carlin vs Richard Pryor
@SymbioticSpider9729
@SymbioticSpider9729 4 ай бұрын
This suggestion goes as far back as YEARS ago, so them doing a full on gauntlet was completely unexpected Peter exerts the best of simple villainous schemes whilst not taking it TOO seriously, making the performance itself a lot more enjoyable Definitely one of their greatest without a doubt Hope to see George Carlin vs Richard Pryor, super fun reaction as always! :)
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 4 ай бұрын
Love both those comics so that will be a fun one to check out 🙂
@MisanthropyFerret
@MisanthropyFerret 3 ай бұрын
Frederick is welcomed with chants "old Fritz". It`s his nickname in history and, you know, "not exactly straight" is reminiscent of his presumable homosexuality
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 4 ай бұрын
10:18 Ngl this makes me wanna recommend Extra History to you guys. They did an episode on Frederick the Great a while back.
@MoisePicard-xe3sd
@MoisePicard-xe3sd 4 ай бұрын
I want to watch a movie on King Frederick The Great of Prussia.
@Mxdln4
@Mxdln4 4 ай бұрын
Yess! I love this one! ^^
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 4 ай бұрын
😎🤘🥳
@andydurand8559
@andydurand8559 4 ай бұрын
Yes this is in my top 5 ERB I think Alexander took his flow and disses were the strongest while Fredrick had a great entrance & Catherine the great went hard too
@jontaehall2740
@jontaehall2740 4 ай бұрын
The, after watching this again, Alexander's part wasn't as good as I remembered it. The vodka bar was His only good one, plus him rapping faster didn't make it any better
@andydurand8559
@andydurand8559 4 ай бұрын
@@jontaehall2740 I think he had a good balance of great flow & pretty good disses especially compared to Ivan
@MoisePicard-xe3sd
@MoisePicard-xe3sd 4 ай бұрын
​@@jontaehall2740I like King Alexander The Great of Macedon's fast rapping. 😊
@ChaoticSpectator
@ChaoticSpectator 3 ай бұрын
The Seven Year's War. A big, giant, significant war that absolutely no one seems knows about. It's weird how much it gets skipped in history.
@Anonymos185
@Anonymos185 4 ай бұрын
I think for history nerds, this was the greatest out of all the ERB's
@MoisePicard-xe3sd
@MoisePicard-xe3sd 4 ай бұрын
I've seen "Alexander" a biopic on King Alexander The Great of Macedon that released in 2004 starring Colin Farell.
@phoenixxking4156
@phoenixxking4156 4 ай бұрын
Love that film
@DirtPoorWargamer
@DirtPoorWargamer 4 ай бұрын
The fact that the only thing Ivan could do was attempt to kill his opponent in every round, should tell you who won each.
@Scientist118
@Scientist118 4 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: At one point, Frederick the Great encountered Catherine the Great and was assessing her a suitor to the heir of the Imperial Russian throne.
@phayroent9742
@phayroent9742 4 ай бұрын
Fredrick said: "I'd pay a guy to tear out my eyes" because Ivan got the first Faberge Egg and had the creator blinded so that he could never make one for anybody else.
@antobono64
@antobono64 4 ай бұрын
Im surprised you guys dont check ot the behind the scenes
@ianblake815
@ianblake815 4 ай бұрын
History lovers adore this one!
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 4 ай бұрын
Tbh I like this one.
@AlexanderAzarov
@AlexanderAzarov 2 ай бұрын
1: Alexander the Great actually asked for the drink that would kill him, in the rap and probably in real life. 2: "It takes a Russian to take down a Russian" Ironically Catherine the Great was born in Prussia.
@nintendopeachgaming1647
@nintendopeachgaming1647 4 ай бұрын
@Definitely Not Definitive All the characters died exactly like they did in the ancient times: Alexander from poising, Fredrick from strangled or choked out, Pompey from a cut by sword to the head and Ivan the Terrible from a game of chess.
@edwardblair4096
@edwardblair4096 3 ай бұрын
And Catherine NOT while having relations with a horse.
@TheDragonKiller90
@TheDragonKiller90 4 ай бұрын
it is said frederick the great died on his chair from something i dont know what it was EDIT: and nobody saw that the garrot wire cathrine the great used looked like male genitales xD
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 4 ай бұрын
😯 completely missed that 😆
@josesegadas
@josesegadas 2 ай бұрын
The cute dog stole the video
@TimBrazeau
@TimBrazeau 4 ай бұрын
- Prussia was (if I recall correctly) northeast of Germany along the Baltic coast, and was a major part of the German Empire up to the end of WWI (The Red Baron was Prussian as well) And yes he died after falling asleep in a chair at the age of 74 (the last 40-some years of his life being King of Prussia.) - Apparently the thing Pompey the Great is most remembered for is being decapitated just before he was supposed to give a speech. I'm unsure if _why_ he was know as 'The Great' is even remembered.
@edwardblair4096
@edwardblair4096 3 ай бұрын
As I understand it, Pompey was one of the "Triumvirate" along with Julius Ceasar and Marc Anthony who jointly ruled the Roman Empire for awhile. Anthony did a rebellion and was removed, leaving Ceasar and Pompey. Then Pompey was removed leaving just Ceasar.
@JoeThomas-lu6fy
@JoeThomas-lu6fy Ай бұрын
@@edwardblair4096 It was Marcus Lucinius Crassus, not Marc Antony, and he died when a junior officer disrupted a parley after Crassus' army was defeated.
@buffyjosmom
@buffyjosmom 24 күн бұрын
+Definitely Not Definitive Every person in this rap battle died the way the real person died in life. Yep Frederick The Great fell asleep in a chair and just simply died. LOL and Catherine saying "it takes a Russian to take down a Russian" should have been "It takes a German to take down a Russian" considering she was German LOL.
@MoisePicard-xe3sd
@MoisePicard-xe3sd 4 ай бұрын
Empress Catherine The Great of Russia is the only Eastern European ruler you know, Bethany?
@tric5122
@tric5122 4 ай бұрын
Catherine lost with her own line bc she wasnt Russian
@jontaehall2740
@jontaehall2740 4 ай бұрын
I say Ivan the Terrible. He was riding the beat on his part. It was a little unfair that Alexander had the longest part in the battle. And yes, everyone had one round
@agtytreal
@agtytreal 4 ай бұрын
Do Hitler vs vader!! i beg u its my absolute favourite!!
@undeathghost5627
@undeathghost5627 4 ай бұрын
My take on the order: Alexander the Great Catherine the Great (very very very close 2nd but the internal rhyming is just so nuts on Alexander) Ivan the Terrible (Even if only counting the first verse and not the transitional verses) Fredrick the Great
@Drelago
@Drelago 4 ай бұрын
I completely disagree with your list. Pompey deserves the #1 spot.
@undeathghost5627
@undeathghost5627 4 ай бұрын
@@Drelago I mean I thought that was a given. I didn't even mention him cuz it goes without saying he was the literary god of this rap battle
@Vivi-te5qj
@Vivi-te5qj 4 ай бұрын
I'm so good at history that it took me 8 minutes to remember Ivan the Terrible is not Rasputin
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 4 ай бұрын
😂
@taronkendall203
@taronkendall203 4 ай бұрын
Finallly
@naomikirisaki
@naomikirisaki 4 ай бұрын
Khan left the chat 😂🤣
@BackyardButcher
@BackyardButcher 27 күн бұрын
Fredric his homosexuality.... so the line "my tactics aren't exactly straight"... And obviously, his tactics in battle were much oblique
@nagetsklass6952
@nagetsklass6952 4 ай бұрын
ЛОЛ, я наверное единственный тут русский
@t3haznpenguin
@t3haznpenguin 4 ай бұрын
Are you guys JOKING?! POMPEY THE GREAT won heads down... I mean hands down! Did you hear the way he said, "Yeah!" lyrical genius.
@johncage3485
@johncage3485 4 ай бұрын
Pls react to the sonic 3 movie trailer
@encyclochemeleon276
@encyclochemeleon276 4 ай бұрын
obviously Pompey won this one
@PerennialQuest
@PerennialQuest 12 күн бұрын
Yep. There's no debate💯💯💯🔥
@JoaoPucci
@JoaoPucci 4 ай бұрын
It would be cool if you guys reacted to Hamilton vs. Satoshi. Even though it is not from the ERB channel, it features EpicLloyd.
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