Great breakdown on this, and funny that your mixed reaction on Frederick is how some of the fans see him because they either love him for the energy and performance or they think he was overhyped given that his lines don't feel like a battle rap East vs West Philosophers is also put on a similar pedestal to this battle if you want a recommendation for one that plays with the battle structure
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive24 ай бұрын
😎👍🙂 that’s one we for sure plan on checking out
@dukerollo11164 ай бұрын
Fredrick the great unfortunately gets a bad reputation because a certain funny mustached failed painter admired him
@joeturton66274 ай бұрын
its such a shame that Frederick was mischaracterised as a symbol of the Prussian military, when he hated war and his domestic reforms in Prussia were really the gamechanger.
@littlekuribohimposte4 ай бұрын
@@joeturton6627 He was sogood at war because his father was the one whomade the Prussian military the first ptofessional soldiers in Europe. But he did master the art of war, in order to pursue the arts of peace.
@murderofcrows50894 ай бұрын
Pretty ironic too given Fredrick was more than likely gay and that’s something the nazi’s didn’t like
@Swissswoosher4 ай бұрын
Funny how said moustache man loved Frederick, who was both (almost certainly) gay AND a Freemason, two groups persecuted by him.
@mejestin4 ай бұрын
The man still had great attached to his name, it's already makes him better then billions 😬
@Crazael4 ай бұрын
9:36 Important things about Fredrick the Great for the purposes of this rap: 1. He was very likely gay. He only very reluctantly married and had a life long male companion. 2. He was a master general and military leader. 3. He was also quite fond of the arts and played the flute. 4. He died sitting in his favorite chair. For more info, the KZbin channel Extra History has a series about him.
@filipvadas76024 ай бұрын
Of all the ERBs this one I think is consistently in people's Top 10. Its THAT good!
@joeturton66274 ай бұрын
its my favourite, made me learn who Frederick and Catherine were.
@japerow4 ай бұрын
Ivan's raspy voice, accompanied by the monotonous beat, and added with the time-lapsing dusky sky background in the Red Square, is probably one of the hardest ERB openings of all time. I like how Peter played him, and this is definitely one of his greatest performances along with Austin Powers and Oppenheimer. The battle is entertaining, as is how it's been formatted like a play, and has many historical references. This is my favorite ERB of all time. I suggest Eastern Philosophers vs. Western Philosophers next!
@Bobal274 ай бұрын
11:29 What’s hilarious is that Pompey was given equal treatment to those who went before him. He was beheaded during his first speech as a leader, so his verse perfectly matched his reign, just as the others’ did, right down to the detail of how he died being included.
@Bifito2 ай бұрын
First speech? Wasn't he beheaded after he was captured by the egyptians during the civil war?
@samiraansari5686Ай бұрын
Pompey didn‘t „reign“ in that sense at all- he was leading an army on behalf of the senate, trying to keep Caesar from winning. He was beheaded when he tried to appeal for help.
@Bobal27Ай бұрын
@@samiraansari5686 I agree 100%. His verse matched his reign: non-existent.
@So_Viet80324 ай бұрын
Fun fact: in Russia, we don't call Ivan the Terrible as Terrible. We call him something like Ivan the Fearsome
@theinsurance24504 ай бұрын
Of course comrade you would do that
@So_Viet80324 ай бұрын
@@theinsurance2450 you know, if you compare things that he did and things that some european leaders of medieval Europe has done - you wouldn't call him "terrible"
@theinsurance24504 ай бұрын
@@So_Viet8032 What kind of defense is that. People were worst so therefore he not so bad. "Well I know this drunk driver k*ll 3 people but there been drunk drivers that k*lled 5 people. So he not so bad."
@stumilesyt4 ай бұрын
@@So_Viet8032 I feel like its a lost-in-time language difference, "terrible" in modern English doesn't mean the same as back then. There's two meanings in modern English; terrible as in poor performance, like he was a bad leader, and terrible as in he did terrible things, but neither of those are the original meaning. The original meaning (when applied as a title to a leader/monarch) meant he inspired fear and loyalty - which was seen as positive thing for monarchs. So yes you guys calling him "the fearsome" makes total sense as that's a synonym for the original meaning!
@XCC234 ай бұрын
@@stumilesyt Yep. It's linguistic drift in English. In the 1400s, English got a fancy new adjective, "terrible", meaning "inspiring terror". Ivan the Terrible is using terrible in that sense. Then 500 years of linguistic change occurred, and "terrible" as an adjective meaning "inspiring terror" was buried underneath "terrible" as an adjective meaning "of poor quality" in the early 1900s. Ivan the Terrifying would be the closest you could get if insisting on using terror as a root.
@MoisePicard-xe3sd4 ай бұрын
ERB Eastern Philosophers vs. Western Philosophers is one that blow y'all out the water.
@RedKing120004 ай бұрын
Stan Lee vs Jim Henson is a real all-timer
@thesmilyguyguy97994 ай бұрын
: )
@R3TR0_ST1LL4 ай бұрын
Yes pls! 🙏
@nolifealan97464 ай бұрын
When Fredrick said "attacks tactics aren't exactly straight" it's about his type of method that helped prussia beat back much stronger enemies and also the fact that Fredrick was gay
@MoisePicard-xe3sd4 ай бұрын
Y'all got an underrated ERB right here. 💯
@theevilsmurf884 ай бұрын
Meghan Tonjes, is the singer portraying Catherine the Great. She is an indie singer/songwriter. Very talented but her music style is very different than what is shown here.
@EyalItsik4 ай бұрын
You guys are such a joy to watch
@abucket144 ай бұрын
A cool thing about this one is that each died in their proper way. Alexander was poisoned, Frederick died of natural causes (at an impressive age of 74 might I add), Pompey ruled for a short time before being beheaded, and Ivan, as stated by Alexander, died in the middle of a game of chess.
@shadowwriter3294 ай бұрын
One thing about this rap battle is that it has attention to detail that isn’t in the rap itself. And it comes down to the characters’ deaths. Alexander was rumored to have died from a poison drink. Frederick died while sleeping in a chair. And Pompey was said to have been killed before a great speech he was to give so that is why he didn’t even get rap. Even the ending line when Cathrine knocked over the chess piece, as said before Ivan died in the middle of a chess match so in a way she killed him here.
@oooeee55564 ай бұрын
"Man, I wish I could die in a rap battle." - Alexander the Great, Frederick the Great's final words, possibly.
@danielramsey61414 ай бұрын
Pope’s Last Words…on the same Day 😂😂😂
@senorgato2874 ай бұрын
This is my most favorite ERB, the performances are great especially with Peter’s portrayal of Ivan giving him that villainous vibe which I like so much and the other rappers were just as great while having their funny moments I recommend reacting to Jeff Bezos vs Mansa Musa for another hilarious and great battle
@DiligentD4 ай бұрын
Heads up then for the couple and any other's that weren't aware or get the implication: The way all characters in the Rap die here is accurate to how they died in real life.....except Pompey haha
@bknpnck4 ай бұрын
Actually Pompey did get beheaded, his dome was famously sent to Caesar after he was killed (which Shaka Zulu referenced in their ERB)
@dukerollo11164 ай бұрын
Pompey was actually beheaded
@undeathghost56274 ай бұрын
Pompey is actually extremely accurate. He was beheaded and was attack mid-speech... thus why he gets only an introduction and no lines
@THEDisneyNerd4 ай бұрын
Wdym he was def rapping against Ivan The Terrible when he got killed
@StoryMing3 ай бұрын
Another ERB with surprise guests- George Carlin vs Richard Pryor
@SymbioticSpider97294 ай бұрын
This suggestion goes as far back as YEARS ago, so them doing a full on gauntlet was completely unexpected Peter exerts the best of simple villainous schemes whilst not taking it TOO seriously, making the performance itself a lot more enjoyable Definitely one of their greatest without a doubt Hope to see George Carlin vs Richard Pryor, super fun reaction as always! :)
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive24 ай бұрын
Love both those comics so that will be a fun one to check out 🙂
@MisanthropyFerret3 ай бұрын
Frederick is welcomed with chants "old Fritz". It`s his nickname in history and, you know, "not exactly straight" is reminiscent of his presumable homosexuality
@v.emiltheii-nd.80944 ай бұрын
10:18 Ngl this makes me wanna recommend Extra History to you guys. They did an episode on Frederick the Great a while back.
@MoisePicard-xe3sd4 ай бұрын
I want to watch a movie on King Frederick The Great of Prussia.
@Mxdln44 ай бұрын
Yess! I love this one! ^^
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive24 ай бұрын
😎🤘🥳
@andydurand85594 ай бұрын
Yes this is in my top 5 ERB I think Alexander took his flow and disses were the strongest while Fredrick had a great entrance & Catherine the great went hard too
@jontaehall27404 ай бұрын
The, after watching this again, Alexander's part wasn't as good as I remembered it. The vodka bar was His only good one, plus him rapping faster didn't make it any better
@andydurand85594 ай бұрын
@@jontaehall2740 I think he had a good balance of great flow & pretty good disses especially compared to Ivan
@MoisePicard-xe3sd4 ай бұрын
@@jontaehall2740I like King Alexander The Great of Macedon's fast rapping. 😊
@ChaoticSpectator3 ай бұрын
The Seven Year's War. A big, giant, significant war that absolutely no one seems knows about. It's weird how much it gets skipped in history.
@Anonymos1854 ай бұрын
I think for history nerds, this was the greatest out of all the ERB's
@MoisePicard-xe3sd4 ай бұрын
I've seen "Alexander" a biopic on King Alexander The Great of Macedon that released in 2004 starring Colin Farell.
@phoenixxking41564 ай бұрын
Love that film
@DirtPoorWargamer4 ай бұрын
The fact that the only thing Ivan could do was attempt to kill his opponent in every round, should tell you who won each.
@Scientist1184 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: At one point, Frederick the Great encountered Catherine the Great and was assessing her a suitor to the heir of the Imperial Russian throne.
@phayroent97424 ай бұрын
Fredrick said: "I'd pay a guy to tear out my eyes" because Ivan got the first Faberge Egg and had the creator blinded so that he could never make one for anybody else.
@antobono644 ай бұрын
Im surprised you guys dont check ot the behind the scenes
@ianblake8154 ай бұрын
History lovers adore this one!
@v.emiltheii-nd.80944 ай бұрын
Tbh I like this one.
@AlexanderAzarov2 ай бұрын
1: Alexander the Great actually asked for the drink that would kill him, in the rap and probably in real life. 2: "It takes a Russian to take down a Russian" Ironically Catherine the Great was born in Prussia.
@nintendopeachgaming16474 ай бұрын
@Definitely Not Definitive All the characters died exactly like they did in the ancient times: Alexander from poising, Fredrick from strangled or choked out, Pompey from a cut by sword to the head and Ivan the Terrible from a game of chess.
@edwardblair40963 ай бұрын
And Catherine NOT while having relations with a horse.
@TheDragonKiller904 ай бұрын
it is said frederick the great died on his chair from something i dont know what it was EDIT: and nobody saw that the garrot wire cathrine the great used looked like male genitales xD
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive24 ай бұрын
😯 completely missed that 😆
@josesegadas2 ай бұрын
The cute dog stole the video
@TimBrazeau4 ай бұрын
- Prussia was (if I recall correctly) northeast of Germany along the Baltic coast, and was a major part of the German Empire up to the end of WWI (The Red Baron was Prussian as well) And yes he died after falling asleep in a chair at the age of 74 (the last 40-some years of his life being King of Prussia.) - Apparently the thing Pompey the Great is most remembered for is being decapitated just before he was supposed to give a speech. I'm unsure if _why_ he was know as 'The Great' is even remembered.
@edwardblair40963 ай бұрын
As I understand it, Pompey was one of the "Triumvirate" along with Julius Ceasar and Marc Anthony who jointly ruled the Roman Empire for awhile. Anthony did a rebellion and was removed, leaving Ceasar and Pompey. Then Pompey was removed leaving just Ceasar.
@JoeThomas-lu6fyАй бұрын
@@edwardblair4096 It was Marcus Lucinius Crassus, not Marc Antony, and he died when a junior officer disrupted a parley after Crassus' army was defeated.
@buffyjosmom24 күн бұрын
+Definitely Not Definitive Every person in this rap battle died the way the real person died in life. Yep Frederick The Great fell asleep in a chair and just simply died. LOL and Catherine saying "it takes a Russian to take down a Russian" should have been "It takes a German to take down a Russian" considering she was German LOL.
@MoisePicard-xe3sd4 ай бұрын
Empress Catherine The Great of Russia is the only Eastern European ruler you know, Bethany?
@tric51224 ай бұрын
Catherine lost with her own line bc she wasnt Russian
@jontaehall27404 ай бұрын
I say Ivan the Terrible. He was riding the beat on his part. It was a little unfair that Alexander had the longest part in the battle. And yes, everyone had one round
@agtytreal4 ай бұрын
Do Hitler vs vader!! i beg u its my absolute favourite!!
@undeathghost56274 ай бұрын
My take on the order: Alexander the Great Catherine the Great (very very very close 2nd but the internal rhyming is just so nuts on Alexander) Ivan the Terrible (Even if only counting the first verse and not the transitional verses) Fredrick the Great
@Drelago4 ай бұрын
I completely disagree with your list. Pompey deserves the #1 spot.
@undeathghost56274 ай бұрын
@@Drelago I mean I thought that was a given. I didn't even mention him cuz it goes without saying he was the literary god of this rap battle
@Vivi-te5qj4 ай бұрын
I'm so good at history that it took me 8 minutes to remember Ivan the Terrible is not Rasputin
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive24 ай бұрын
😂
@taronkendall2034 ай бұрын
Finallly
@naomikirisaki4 ай бұрын
Khan left the chat 😂🤣
@BackyardButcher27 күн бұрын
Fredric his homosexuality.... so the line "my tactics aren't exactly straight"... And obviously, his tactics in battle were much oblique
@nagetsklass69524 ай бұрын
ЛОЛ, я наверное единственный тут русский
@t3haznpenguin4 ай бұрын
Are you guys JOKING?! POMPEY THE GREAT won heads down... I mean hands down! Did you hear the way he said, "Yeah!" lyrical genius.
@johncage34854 ай бұрын
Pls react to the sonic 3 movie trailer
@encyclochemeleon2764 ай бұрын
obviously Pompey won this one
@PerennialQuest12 күн бұрын
Yep. There's no debate💯💯💯🔥
@JoaoPucci4 ай бұрын
It would be cool if you guys reacted to Hamilton vs. Satoshi. Even though it is not from the ERB channel, it features EpicLloyd.