Dell's AIO CPU Water Cooler | Precision T7910 E5-2687Wv3 upgrade

[@mikalnaylor]

I have a T7910 with AIO cooling and (x2) E5-2699A V4s. :) it rocks. :)

[@ArtofServer]

nice! :-)

[@DJSammy69.]

Pretty awesome upgrade!!

[@ArtofServer]

Thanks!

[@olmedoacosta]

Great video. Following😊

[@ArtofServer]

Thanks! Hope you enjoy my stuff! :-)

[@KomradeMikhail]

Are there any significant differences between the DELL T7910 and the HP Z840 workstations ? They both seem to be similarly spec'ed dual-Socket 2011-3 systems at first glance... But the Dell tends to cost at least $120 USD more on the used market.

[@blademan7671]

I like the Z840 vapor cooler + fan baffling which has same noise level at idle or full tilt. With this Dell water block, it seems to disrupt the front to back airflow. IMO, go with the Z840, waaayy over engineered.

[@ArtofServer]

That's a great question. I personally prefer the Z840 over the T7910. The Z840 seems overall a better design, and can accommodate up to 7 3.5" drives and 4x NVMe SSDs. The T7910 only has space for 4x3.5" drives, 4x2.5" drives, and 4x NVMe SSDs. (you could probably add more PCIe SSDs via spare PCIe slots of course). I find the 2.5" bays less useful if you're already using NVMe SSDs and would rather have more 3.5" bays for cheap bulk storage with HDDs. The Dell used to be cheaper than the HP. Market prices fluctuate with time. The T7910 has onboard SAS-3 controller, all the power cables you need for PCIe power, where as the HP has a SAS-2 controller, requires PSU and special cable harnesses and still limited PCIe power. The case design of the Z840 is a beautiful work of art, the T7910 lacks the "art" but works for the most part. These are just my opinions.

[@blademan7671]

@@ArtofServer 3 additional 3.5" in the Z840 using an ICY dock for the 5.25" bays?

[@RATTL3R186]

Most of Cells stuff is proprietary crap.

[@maxsterling9908]

My Precision 7810 has a problem. It doesn't start whenever I add DIMMs for second CPU. It starts as I can hear the fans going but there is no output. Right now, I have 128GB RAM (32 x 4) for CPU1 and nothing on CPU. Even if I distribute two DIMMs to CPU (slot 1 and 2). it won't boot. I wonder what could be wrong with it.

[@ArtofServer]

When it doesn't boot and there's no video output, does the power button blink an amber light? If so, count the number of blinks in the pattern that repeats. Look up the code in the user manual to find out what it means. That should help you find out what is wrong.

[@maxsterling9908]

sorry for the delay. The light on the power button doesn't blink nor its colour changes. it stays solid white. There are no awkward beeps either. The light on the power button remains solid white. I never see the Dell icon. It doesn't even reach there.@@ArtofServer

[@zerodamagepen]

Dual CPU configs are very picky with RAM; are they on the compatibility list? I had this same problem with dual E5-2697v2s on an Intel S2600CP, it would only boot with registered ECC memory when using dual CPUs. Might be worth checking.

[@fintechlegend]

Check the rank of the RAM. You'll usually want x8 RAM. x4 is harder to make work as you add more RAM chips

[@galvesribeiro]

I wish I could find 4x of those (I have two of those machines with two E5-2699A V4 each). I can only find used ones on eBay but I'm not 100% confident about the coolant quality because of age and whether or not the pump is clogged (common on AIOs after time). I wish I could find new ones :/

[@ArtofServer]

Actually, you can open the used ones up and just replace the coolant and maybe even the O-rings or apply waterpump sealant. I believe they are made by Asetek.

[@galvesribeiro]

@@ArtofServer got today 2x of those new here in Brazil! Now will try find more two used so I can try clean it up as you said.

[@SkywardKing]

Are you going to add rear exhaust fans? Looks like a nice upgrade

[@ArtofServer]

No, not at this time. The system is up and running and stable under a sysbench cpu run, and seems to max temp at around 70C (1st CPU ) and 75C (2nd CPU). The rear CPU is still a bit higher temps than the front. A rear fan must just make it harder for the 2nd cooler to get air through the radiator. Maybe more inward air pressure?

[@noth606]

@@ArtofServer Heh, I have the 'hunch' that adding an intake fan to the rear might help though. You'd have intake front and rear, exhaust in the middle through the AIO radiators, and adding 'positive pressure' to the case so to speak which helps minimizing dust being sucked in through cracks in the case. Won't make a huge difference I think, but I always hated having dust accumulate in every crack of the case due to negative case pressure.

[@SquashMayhem]

Were you able to find these new?

[@ArtofServer]

yes

[@merkhava]

Ja zrobiłem w t7610 dwie chłodnice wodne montowane na aluminiowych profilach. Do tego sterowanie wentylatorami od Corsair, temperatury nie przekraczają 62st przy E5 2687W V2. Chłodzenie cooler master 240mm X2 ..

[@ArtofServer]

Nice!

[@FatManBuilds]

Hi There, I have watched a few of your 7910 videos as I have just got one they were selling off cheap at work. Mine has 16gb of RAM, and one 2 E5-2623 V3, the graphics card is Nvida 310! I am trying to decide whether its worth me upgrading the CPU, adding a second one, adding RAM and swapping the graphics card so that I can use it for DaVinci resolve video editing. Or not to bother and just buy a new machine. You did mention you were using this for video editing, what software were you using? Do you think it could run resolve? Mine can't at the moment. I think because of the graphics card. I saw another video where someone put in a Nvidia 3070, but they were using it for Gaming. Many Thanks, Simon!

[@ArtofServer]

I edit with "shotcut" so I don't know about da Vinci. I edit 4k files on this even with an old GPU like 1080Ti.

[@FatManBuilds]

@@ArtofServer Great, thanks for the reply, I will give that a go!

[@merkhava]

Mam w t7610 rtx 4070 super, trzy wentylatory. Do tego 80gb ramu. Min 3060 ti lub 4060ti 16gb.

[@yusufbuhijji4874]

Thank you for the great video and step by step.. Any before and after comparisons? Temps?

[@ArtofServer]

Thanks! Sorry, I didn't do any before and after temp comparison video. I think on average, it was about a few degrees lower under load. idle temp was roughly the same.

[@yusufbuhijji4874]

@@ArtofServer not bad, I'm considering using the noctuas on a pair of 2695 v4

[@its1one]

Personally I like tinkering with electronics. There are so many products coming out recently, new and used, that I probably would have set that one out to pasture and bought something new and exciting. I'm looking at the Lenovo p920 to replace the z840. Im just waiting for the price to drop a little more. But basically exchanging 40 core for 40 cores, that's why I can wait. Good luck with that cooler though. Crossing my fingers for you

[@ArtofServer]

Thanks! I wasn't very impressed with the Lenovo P620. The P920 looks interesting, but I still feel none beat the design of the Z840, not even the newer Z8.

[@its1one]

@@ArtofServer yeah. The z840, she's a classic. Maybe I'll get rid of my z440 instead. Thanks for the content. It's good stuff

[@alankeck]

Thanks for the video but I really don’t understand why you’d speed so much time, effort, and money on a relatively minor upgrade while also decreasing the reliability with 2 (!) probably decade old (even if unused) AIOs. For a general use office machine as you described in the beginning there are so many faster, smaller, more power efficient options. But I’m sure you know that, I just don’t follow the logic. Either way, thanks for the video and good luck!

[@FantasticF113]

Your make a valid point. However, there's value in presenting this upgrade to this channels audience. If a business frequently buys and sells gear, then the opportunity to present this video is a no-brainer. I think he said this is his wife's workstation so if something goes wrong she won't have to look far for a solution anyway! 👍

[@ArtofServer]

Mostly, I just wanted to show folks who have T7910 that there's a AIO water cooler option. The components were already on-hand and so I might as well make use of them. And it was interesting to try it out. If practical concerns were the only driver, my channel wouldn't exist.

[@jlodew0]

if you apply thermal paste to the cpu's, you should have removed the one on the aio's. Thermal paste acts as an insulater as well, only less of an insulater then air. Thermal paste is there to fill microscopic voids/airpockets ...

[@ArtofServer]

thanks for your tip. and thanks for watching!

[@dimitristsoutsouras2712]

All this circular movement should have scrap the thermal paste all over the place around the cpu. On e of the worst ways for a cpu cooler to be applied.

[@ArtofServer]

It is the only way...

[@negax3420]

Hi, Is there the same thing for the T5820 version? Ty

[@ArtofServer]

Sorry, I don't know. Never had a T5820. I recommend you check Dell's documentation.

[@abdulsalamshar5601]

will this aio will work on lga 1551 or 1700 ?

[@ArtofServer]

No idea. It's just an Asetek AIO though

[@Cooper3312000]

I had two of those coolers in my T7910 year back they leaked and destroyed the system, so be warned. The workstation was under warranty and Dell replaced the motherboard and coolers.

[@ArtofServer]

Oh no! that sucks... hope that doesn't happen here...

[@samyriyad8275]

Great video,Is it possible to upgrade to windows 11

[@ArtofServer]

I don't know and have not used Windows in a long time. I hear that Windows 11 requirements are constantly evolving.

[@mightymouse9098]

It should be. I have upgraded to W11 on my 5810 and also 3610. I needed to turn on secure boot (which turns off legacy and switches boot to windows boot manager) and also turn on TPM (these have TPM 1.x not 2.0 stated as required for W11). These seemed to do the trick. So most likely work for 7910 and I am expecting it to work for my new 7810.

[@timfountain98]

Not without hacking the installer. All the CPU options for the 7910 are not supported in W11, INcluding the V4 Xeons. I am runnign W11 on my 7910 without any issues....

[@GiaThinh93]

Sorry. I don't get it. As I understand, the important factor of liquid cooling for computer is to bring the heat far from its source before dissipating. What's the point of switching the stock to liquid cooling if the radiators stay right on the CPUs? Needless to say the coolers' airflow direction are 90 degree. The heat might be trapped inside and degrade other components.

[@peterh7575]

love these machines. I got a FULLY loaded one. all pci lanes pretty much taken. it's a beast.

[@ArtofServer]

Yeah, one of the biggest reasons I love workstation class machines is the abundance of PCIe lanes. I know consumer PC stuff is cheaper and you can get more CPU performance for less money, but the lack of PCIe lanes always irritates me.

[@LazyTurtle587]

Benchmark pls..Before & After liquid cooler...

[@ArtofServer]

Well, different CPU and different coolers. But, the system is up and running and stable under a sysbench cpu run, and seems to max temp at around 70C (1st CPU ) and 75C (2nd CPU).

[@takticalpickles]

Gotta sub to AoS, you saved my H710 mini mono from a F/W Fault State. Thank!

[@ArtofServer]

Thanks buddy! Glad that video helped you out! Thanks for your support and watching my vids! :-)

[@jj-icejoe6642]

Test ?

[@ArtofServer]

The system is up and running and stable under a sysbench cpu run, and seems to max temp at around 70C (1st CPU ) and 75C (2nd CPU). The rear CPU is still a bit higher in temps, but the difference is smaller I guess.

[@jj-icejoe6642]

@@ArtofServer Nice, thank you.

[@amateurwizard]

I love watching these videos, keep up the good work 👍

[@ArtofServer]

Thanks for watching! :-)

[@JasonsLabVideos]

I don't think i would have used those AIO's now the air is going to stay stale in the case. The original CPU & fan combo pushed the air out the back.. I used to work for Dell for 15+ years and i know how these were designed and why they were designed this way..

[@myc0p]

That new setup with fans deep inside doesn't make sense. Time to add exhaust fans!

[@ArtofServer]

I'm curious about your "why they were designed this way" statement? Mind sharing some insights? The chassis has 3 front fans that push air through the chassis. It's not the optimal design, but it works okay for now. The system is up and running and stable under a sysbench cpu run, and seems to max temp at around 70C (1st CPU ) and 75C (2nd CPU).

[@JasonsLabVideos]

@@ArtofServer The fan in the front pushes air over the PCIE devices, the cpu's usse air PUSHers because its cold air from the front. What you did by adding those AIO units is create staile air flow and the heat can't get out.

[@m.ahmad5911]

Dell

[@rigsbyrigged1831]

I am subscribed, and the notification Bell is on. However, I do not klick "Like" at the start of a video. Sorry! I "Like" a video, when I like it, so once I have watched it. I know, I am being a pedant, but seriously, do not ask people to like something they have not yet seen :-( Though I love your videos, and could probably like them blind. But my principals really kick in on this ;-)

[@ArtofServer]

Ha ha.. that's fine my friend! Stick to your principals! We need more people who do that in this clickbait world of ours. It was just a suggestion to mess with the youtube algorithm. ;-) Thanks for watching and supporting my channel!

[@Mr.Leeroy]

Truly, an upgrade worthy t handle Ebay 🤣 Man this is ridiculous. They both have 14700 passmark score, and new one single thread score is 1912 vs 1752, while something like single 11600k produces 3368. WTF

[@ArtofServer]

LOL.. yeah I know. However, passmark scores don't always show the whole picture. My HP Z840 (dual E5-2680v4) exports 4k video faster (only by a little) in my editor than my son's new Ryzen9 5900X, but the passmark scores would suggest otherwise. (neither using GPU for video export) I'm still partial to workstation machines because of the abundance of PCIe lanes and the ease to add more PCIe devices and RAM. This area still seems lacking on consumer PC end. And a threadripper PC takes everything to a different price range.

[@Mr.Leeroy]

@@ArtofServer No wonder, 36k vs 39k score, but 28c56t vs 12c24t. CPU transcoding is highly-efficient multithreaded load. Also desktop SKUs' scores are a bit less accurate due to averaged overclocks. Power efficiency though.

[@jlodew0]

depends what you are going to use it for. If you need lot's of memory (system is capable of +1TB of memory for like lot's of vms), or memory bandwith (quad channel of 2400mhz (if using V4 xeons) ddr4 has some serious bandwith as well). So it all depends on what it is going to be used for. can't compare them 1 to 1. You can only do so for your particular workload.