DELTA#8[LTOP16] Sparg0(クラウド) VS Lv.1(トゥーンリンク)

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@goe5 Ай бұрын

Lv1 is such an amazing player. Crazy that Japan feels like a new breed

@thatdude3977 Ай бұрын

😂 or they just don't cry about characters and actually grind

@darktouchstudios8114 Ай бұрын

@@thatdude3977i mean when i was there plenty cried about characters 😅. They just also grind

@ragames7320 23 күн бұрын

@@darktouchstudios8114Not as much as America cries and marginalizes characters until they beat one of their top players, go figure

@caius9162 15 күн бұрын

Amazing spammer*

@ragames7320 15 күн бұрын

@@caius9162 Not as much as the Cloud player spamming safe aerials and up B OoS

@user-er2vo9pj1s Ай бұрын

熱すぎる…。トゥーンリンク好きの誇りです。

@user-ft9oh3zt7x Ай бұрын

ライブで見てた時の興奮やばかった

@suzukiy7974 Ай бұрын

すごい！

@user-ol8dj2nw9s Ай бұрын

当時とは違うかもだけど後悔しないのはクラウドって考えのSparg0に初対戦でホムヒカ出させたミーヤーってすごかったんやな

@Max-tq1ig Ай бұрын

Best TL in the world!

@GoharioFTW 20 күн бұрын

1:07 i really just watched toon link's dagger of a sword out range cloud's buster sword

@sigurdtheblue 2 күн бұрын

It's a crazy up-air. It feels like it is not long enough, but then it will randomly beat out moves that look too dangerous.

@uprollsariotvan Ай бұрын

It is crazy that Lv.1 eliminated 2 top 5 players back to back to make it to top 8 at Delta

@p4trick373 Ай бұрын

you can see bassmage shocked face at the end lol

@fabianosoriani Ай бұрын

These sequences as Toon Link are insane! One of the best in the world?

@Athorment Ай бұрын

I always felt Toon Link had the potential to swing at the same level as young Link... but unlike the latter who had Tweek once long ago, Toon Link never got someone on the level of Lv1 to prove it.

@flyleaf2184 Ай бұрын

Oh boy, what a set, good job by the Japanese player, respect 🫡

@MRB96 Ай бұрын

There’s no way this is not the best Toon Link in the world.

@korieklion Ай бұрын

Smash ultimate has barely reached its its full potential and the Japanese scene is growing and showing. This is really hype for the ultimate and I hope we will see more full potential performances from all characters. Thank you Japan 🇯🇵

@ragames7320 Ай бұрын

Exactly. The doomer mindset of NA pales in comparison to the optimistic mindset of JP.

@TreebeardXIV Ай бұрын

@@ragames7320What you said makes zero sense. What exactly does Doomerism have to do with the state of the game?

@ragames7320 Ай бұрын

@@TreebeardXIV It's just a theory, but a lot of NA thinks Sonic and steve have killed the game, and it demotivates a lot of the player base to keep on getting better. NA is very much guided by tier lists as well, and they are immediately convinced that mid tiers and low tiers are unviable. Japan talks less and keeps up the grind, no matter how bad their characters. This is why you see some people thinking twice about labeling Banjo, DK, and Toon link low tiers. Any character is viable if you put in the work. NA doesn't believe that.

@bradleygo1 Ай бұрын

The game has been out for a LONG time. We need something else

@problemsnearyou8899 Ай бұрын

@@ragames7320while I completely agree with you, this in particular only applies in Ultimate . In most fighting games, this does not apply . Usually, the meta is the meta for a reason

@DanielStern-ct7mq 16 күн бұрын

man you know when the commentary is in japanese and its spargo and it has 53K views its going to be a helluva fight

@CursedOutRS Ай бұрын

What an insane set man… who knew toon link had any viability in 2024

@RayBcv1030 Ай бұрын

Lv.1 has shown that Toon Link is no where near low tier. Even before the Sparg0 win, he's won tournaments over Yoshidora before.

@MrGameguyC Ай бұрын

@@RayBcv1030 People were saying Tink was low tier? lol

@thatdude3977 Ай бұрын

Anyone who actually thinks for themselves would have seen it. But the smash community dog piles and insults and shames anyone with different opinions tbh

@MrGameguyC Ай бұрын

@@thatdude3977 Ain't that the truth. I'm whiling to hear the points, though it's probably not gonna change many minds. lol

@iluminaciondelcielo.995 Ай бұрын

@@MrGameguyCToon Link de hecho es low tier. Por qué crees que nadie lo juega?

@FNNinry Ай бұрын

14:42 im not sure why sparg0 decided to reset neutral when he has spawn advantage vs 98% toon link. I think the entire momentum would have shifted had he decided to push his advantage. Would he have won? Not sure, but I certainly don’t think he made the right call here

@Mindgamingu 25 күн бұрын

Nah lvl 1 was mind controlling Spargo hard asf lol. Very surprised he stayed Cloud. Lvl 1 with that evil smile at the beginning was epic 😈.

@GlitchanBlack Ай бұрын

15:23 - Watch this, Lis. You can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half. 15:24 - Aaaand... NOW.

@raulvega. 19 күн бұрын

Qué pasó bro. No hay tos, ahora sabemos que su modo de juego no es sólo combos y memoria muscular, hay una estrategia distinta a occidente

@chanPsama_goisu- Ай бұрын

内容関係ないけどサムネのトゥーンの手どうなっとん！？

@CAMMY-SKY Ай бұрын

ブメ投げたあとのデフォルメされたモーションなんかな？手首の曲がり方大袈裟すぎ笑

@playstationarusu Ай бұрын

Breaking your hand is proper throwing form

@bradleygo1 Ай бұрын

The Americans getting absolutely bodied

@kevklash 21 күн бұрын

Japan is just broken. Sparg0 got absolutely bodied.

@ayanokouji8758 Ай бұрын

He tried to parry that upper at the end, unfortunate

@luroluroluro Ай бұрын

3-1 tho

@danielsmith5032 Ай бұрын

A very bad decision by him there

@ragames7320 Ай бұрын

@@danielsmith5032 yeah cuz tinks up air has a very long lasting hitbox. It has been something you should never do since the dawn of time, parrying long lasting attacks.

@claudiegarnier4560 20 күн бұрын

Level 1 bonus exp to Level 5

@arenk.2293 Ай бұрын

見てて分かると思うけど全然相性がトリンに傾いてるとは思えない。固め辛いし、爆弾とか取られながらDAとか空後食らって防御にならんし、近距離は剣のリーチ違うトリン使ってクラウドキツいんだけど、よく捌ききって勝ったなぁレベさん上手すぎです

@user-iz7nt2ms9z Ай бұрын

いやメイト相性表でもトリン側微有利だし、固めも近距離もまずトリン側が弾あってリーチも負けてんのにその間合いに入ってんのが努力不足だし、爆弾取られるなんて全キャラ同じやん。クラウド側は弾辛いし明らか不利。復帰の上Bにトリンの横強が刺さるし。

@arenk.2293 Ай бұрын

@@user-iz7nt2ms9z 言いたいことは分かるしクラウド側がしんどいのも分かるけど僕が上手いクラウド使いにやられてキツいことをかわしたり、捌いたりしてるのは間違いなくて、そうならないように工夫しているのを感じるのそこは間違いなくてプレイヤーの対策だと思いますよあんなにガードすり減ってもかわしきった上手さを見ても下手に怖がって飛び道具投げまくったり、むやみに飛んだりしなかった証拠にはなるかと爆弾も飛んで下に投げたり、上に投げたり横にそのまま投げるケースはほぼなかったそれが功を奏した場合はキャラパワーとは言えないかとそれに飛び道具はガードを崩す力がありません、適切な距離を取り防御だけに気を遣えば、プロなら逃げ続けられると思います。実際トリンの掴みの発生遅すぎて飛び道具嫌がって固まってる掴んでやろうなんて簡単に行くもんじゃなかったです。レベさんが掴み通してるとろも虚をついたり、絶妙なリーチ差の対応だったり、着地狩りだったり、凄くプレイヤースキルの詰まった瞬間に見えますプレイヤースキルで克服してるのはキャラ相性とは言えないのでは逆にクラウド側がトリン専用にしてた対策はどういうところでしたか？僕はクラウド側の視点は持ってないです。VIP行かせたぐらいで全然使えません。あと、言わせてもらうとオフ大会にオンラインのキャラ相性持ってくるのは良くないかと爆弾キャッチだけに焦点を当てるならオンラインではなんとなく投げてきそうとタイミングで読みでする所も多いと思います。辛うじて目押しもどうかと言うところオフだとその精度は段違いだと思います。それに爆弾キャッチしたがら攻撃できるを全キャラに例えてますが、取りながら攻撃する回転率はクラウド優秀ですよ。オンでさえ適当に空後押し付けてるだけで成功しちゃうくらいです。別に言い争いをしたいわけじゃないですしどちらが有利なんて言ってないです。僕は単純にやっててキツいことをやりきったプレイヤーを褒めただけです

@user-qu3ff8rw7u Ай бұрын

@@user-iz7nt2ms9z玉キャラが強いオンで微有利だからな

@mania3786 Ай бұрын

@@user-iz7nt2ms9zメイト相性表とか全然レート高くない人のデータも含んでるから参考にならんよ

@kei7059 Ай бұрын

メイト相性表とか見たらキャラランクNO.1 ダクハンになるよみたいなこと言うつもりだったんだけどそもそもメイト相性表見てもクラウド側微有利で笑っちゃった

@steel_jobz Ай бұрын

ワシはこの風が欲しかったのかもしれぬ

@geniuzg Ай бұрын

Bro whooped spargo lol

@ragames7320 Ай бұрын

With tink no less lol

@Clear256 Ай бұрын

Toonlink is a better character than most of us have realized 😮

@iluminaciondelcielo.995 Ай бұрын

No, el personaje apesta. Este MU lo gana Cloud por mucho. Sencillamente Sparg0 no jugó bien

@ravenruns8501 Ай бұрын

@@iluminaciondelcielo.995Cope

@optimal_key 7 күн бұрын

@@iluminaciondelcielo.995he didn't say toon link is better than cloud. He said toon link is better than we thought. He was speaking in general terms

@Valentinesdayghost 4 күн бұрын

@@iluminaciondelcielo.995 “Sparg0 simply did not play well.” Yeah, the current *#2* player in the world “did not play well”. Sure, buddy. Sparg0 played good, he just got outplayed. Keep coping.

@scrubdubber1559 Ай бұрын

How do you tether with a bomb in hand like at 1:02?

@takeiteasy1133 Ай бұрын

Wtf

@sebaaas.1895 Ай бұрын

you use the same button

@6ixthSense_ Ай бұрын

if youre in range of the tether grab it will do the tether instead of z dropping the bomb

@matthewcurtiss7557 Ай бұрын

Up tilt up air is a crazy confirm

@ZDY66666 Ай бұрын

Not really. Steve would just kill you if he landed an upair. Still a mid tier combo. Lots of good characters have equivalent or better combos. But toon link is def underrated. He has so much other stuff that allows him to get these combos off or change the play style rapidly

@thatdude3977 Ай бұрын

@@ZDY66666man shut up, you act like you're the one who beat spargo 😂

@legrandliseurtri7495 18 күн бұрын

Tons of characters have uptilt-upair confirms.

@keyushin Ай бұрын

雨飴解説いい味だしてる、きくざか実況は言わずもがな

@user-yj1ff1xn1b Ай бұрын

もうクラウドで勝つのは無理なのかなーみんな対策して強くなってきてるし、何よりクラウドの復帰が見ててつらい。これ明らかに致命的な弱点とも言えるよね…

@playstationarusu Ай бұрын

Cloud counterplay is very common but it's not that bad. Cloud is still very good

@iluminaciondelcielo.995 Ай бұрын

Cloud gana el MU contra Toon Link. De hecho es probablemente el MU más difícil de Toon Link.

@playerc Ай бұрын

玉キャラはホムヒカが良さそう

@user-100ez Ай бұрын

解説全無視の感想でおもろい

@user-by9re6eu7e Ай бұрын

評論家

@hagebusu Ай бұрын

海外のコメント翻訳してみて気づいたんだけど、トリンの略し方みんなティンク(tink )なんや…

@user-pm3vb1nj9u Ай бұрын

スパーゴって結構こけるよな

@user-pm3vb1nj9u Ай бұрын

めっちゃ強いのが大前提だけど

@user-xe8oz3zj1e Ай бұрын

まあクラウドやしな。相手の動きを読みきらんと強みを押し付けれないキャラだし、どっかで噛み合い悪くなったらこける。

@ryuichimatsumoto1237 Ай бұрын

逆にクラウドで今まで勝ててるのが不思議で仕方ないもんなー

@user-qu3ff8rw7u Ай бұрын

みんなスパーゴのプレイ見てるしそりゃキツくなってくるよね

@janswhatsupdoc Ай бұрын

Lvl. 1000

@RayBcv1030 Ай бұрын

Mhm

@Youchus551 Ай бұрын

Damn I guess Japan is broken

@atk8r Ай бұрын

He just can't pull ahead

@user-ng3jb4ok8k Ай бұрын

もしかして、Sparg0さんって飛び道具を持ってるキャラ苦手かな？HurtさんとかYauraさんに負けてるから。

@user-qz2ww5cb3q Ай бұрын

クラウドってキャラが機動力とリーチで間合い外から理不尽を押し付けるキャラだからね間合いの外から攻撃できるキャラに対しては得意の戦法が出来ないから五分以上取られてやられる

@Fixed_TK Ай бұрын

それもあるし、海外に強いトリン使いがいないから、動きを知らないのもある

@user-iv6hz8fy1j Ай бұрын

まあそのヤウラさんにはホムヒカでストレート勝ちしたんだがなやっぱりクラウドのほうに問題あるわ

@poco2ch Ай бұрын

@@user-qz2ww5cb3qどういうこと？w

@user-yumeumeir0 Ай бұрын

⁠@@user-qz2ww5cb3q単純な比較にはならないけどスマメイトの相性表だったら有利上からピクオリしずえ村人ゼルダみたいに続いていってるし、そもそも足早くて空中機動高いでそんな飛び道具きつくない。

@NeutralL12 Ай бұрын

FUCK YEAH TOON LINK

@user-iz7nt2ms9z Ай бұрын

ヤウラにはホムヒカで勝ったし、やっぱホムヒカ出してたらスパーゴ勝ってたな。クラウド弾キャラ不利なのに良く接戦できるよなぁ、、

@shion5075 Ай бұрын

サムスクラウドすぱーごクラウド五分でもなく有利に出してるから対策の差だと思う

@user-iz7nt2ms9z Ай бұрын

@@shion5075その相性表出したの昔だし他の最上位も弾ダルい言ってるから賛否ありだけどな

@user-ku9fk4vw1p Ай бұрын

やっぱこういうところでポロるから世界一にはなれない悲しみのプレイヤー。Leo時代に2位からのあこーら時代に2位。そして四皇時代に2位。可哀想なプレイヤーでもある。

@user-jx8yf7rp2b Ай бұрын

何様…

@manmenmishiikun Ай бұрын

お前誰だよw

@user-yj9kf2ep1d Ай бұрын

世界最強プレイヤーをこんなところで見られるとは

@user-ij8yl5rc5f Ай бұрын

VIP行けるように頑張れ

@user-lx9ip6qp6h Ай бұрын

あこーらキラーだし間違いなく世界1位のレベルなんだけどこういうところでポロるのでランキング2位で止まっちゃってる印象は確かにある