Delta Force Extraction: How Armor & Ammo ACTUALLY Works (Latest Update)

[@TheBeardGuys]

There is a small error on screen where the CAR-15 hits the blue vest for 25.1 damage. This is because that dummy had not been properly reset, so that shot shown broke then vest which means more damage is dealt due to the drop in armour. 25% IS the correct damage reduction against armour a tier below, and on retesting properly it was 20.25 in this case (from the 27 base CAR-15 damage). Apologies!

[@d3zim4t0r6]

one thing you guys didnt test was overpen which honestly i didnt l think was a thing in the game till i shot a guy from 50-100 meters with an awm (he was wearing blue) and he lived i then shot a guy with no armour again he survived but second shot headshot downed him shot his teamate blue armour he lived they ressed hit there other teamate blue armour and lived so im assuming there is over pen and it just doesnt do full damage because one off i would assume it just didnt register but 5-6 in a row is more of a definite im also assuming this would happen with every red ammo

[@davidb9323]

@@d3zim4t0r6 Did you have the long barrel equipped ? It looks like that increases damage to 100 and with the red ammo it should 1 shot knock anyone down. It worked for me before the update. 1 shot hits across the Grove.

[@yuralaskevich2023]

Make video about game steps sound, how far away you hear normal steps/crouch/stealth steps/itc.

[@1984-AA-Nex]

Crazy that the range on TTK from crap armour to best armour is like fractions of a single second. I just wish I could get into Zero Dam easy to complete the missions I have there and not keep getting stomped by gold ammo squads for nothing more than shits and giggles and the couple pieces of blue loot I picked up.

[@MidLifeCriTSIs]

you just contradicted yourself. The range of TTK all fall under "instant" it doesnt matter if you were using Red armor, in 99% of the times you died, you still would of died. Same goes for the ammo. Use blue.... get 6 bullets to kill, use purple gets 6 bullets to kill, use Gold get 5. You are never going to notice a difference. Its not what you are wearing, or what your enemy is using as ammo that is winning/losing you fights.

[@benjininji7002]

@@MidLifeCriTSIs Nah man im a recruit ticket demon personally but grey ammo on gold or red armor is just crazy disadvantage ( as is should be ). To the initial guy who commented try bringing 1 stack of good ammo on your runs that will atleast give u a fighting chance👍

[@shell6467]

@@MidLifeCriTSIs These people heard some youtuber said he found gold gears players in easy zero dam then they started using that as an excuse for their poor skill. If you have decent aim then it isn't that hard to kill gold armored players, RIP ammo is in the game for a reason but these guys are too egoistic that they just blame everything else but their own skills. High tier gears does effect the fight but not to the point where these noob make it out to be

[@waqidj]

It’s really not that bad You are either really bad or you just don’t know how to evade or know the map I do normal and easy loot runs all the time 80% or higher extraction rate 500k average

[@waqidj]

@@shell6467actually I wrecked people in gold armor I got to purple it’s not easy But purple ammo is boss against gold and lower Having higher armor buys you plenty of damage to where it’s so notable So many times they unload a mag at me and I still managed to get cover and not die With purple I die if i get caught in the open This game is hard as F But you are right. Can’t say every player has gold that’s not happening anymore Lots of them are on maps with much better loot

[@florkyman5422]

When using recruit gear tickets. Rip rounds or purple rounds in your safe box really do help your chances.

[@WeiseGuy91]

Thanks, great video, been wanting to take the time at the range playing with ammo types and armor types but its a LOT to take in, haha.

[@roberts2642]

Great video. Liked and subbed because I'm *pretty* obsessed with Delta Force Ops right now.

[@davidb9323]

Did it actually change in S3* ? Looking forward to the easy limit restrictions to further promote the value of lower tier gear.

[@briceMCZ2533]

Thanks for explain 👌

[@MislavM7]

Can you make an updated video on stash and item management in Delta Force operations ? + what are the best boxes to buy to increase stash capacity ?

[@davidzuniga2396]

is there a way to preview backpack divisions layout? some have some dont and i dont know how to check that, thanks.

[@DJ_Taylor24]

Did wanna say in my testing I’ve noticed some wild inconsistency’s. I think it was with the new smg but I can’t remember for sure as I’ve spent countless hours testing myself. But I saw a few guns for some reason we’re doing more damage with the lowest tier ammo than with any other ammo type. I was testing green ammo vs purple armor and was getting 125 damage per shot but when I switched to any of the other ammo types they were all doing 95 damage I found this odd and I’m still testing a lot but just some food for thought that they still have some major inconsistencies with ammo types and armor types and I hope to see these fixed

[@TheBeardGuys]

Tier 1 and 2 ammo do 120% damage now I believe, you can check their damage modifiers to see. It was in the patch notes but can't remember the numbers off the top of my head.

[@geraldbutler3335]

As you raise your operator level,does the resistance to damage go up

[@Asymetrical1911]

no, mate :(

[@-aleeke-2526]

TTK list of guns. Where can I find it?

[@jime353]

Imagine running into Chinese cheaters squad runs $850K M14 with gold rounds☺️

[@MidLifeCriTSIs]

250ms to 300, so that extra 50 MS change is "enough time for someone to react, turn around, and shoot back" No no, thats not how that works at all lmfao

[@waqidj]

Actually it does has happened to me form both sides many times

[@TheBeardGuys]

The suggestion was that 250-300ms would be enough time for someone to react and snap to you

[@MidLifeCriTSIs]

@@TheBeardGuys You framed that using an armor upgrade is worth it cause the 1 bullet TTK difference allows for you to react with armor compared to with out. The armor is so worthless in this game, changing 1 bullet to kill will no in any way change your perceivable survivability at all. The only time it would make a difference is like when u said, comparing T1 ammo against t5 armor. t1 ammo vs T1-t4 armor are all exactly the same, well within human perception. Im just being picky, awesome video and thanks for breaking it down, my main point is simply the armor is just not worth it past blue. I stopped buying and using any armor higher then blue, my money has increased massively and my survivability is literally exactly the same, if not better as I get better at the game.

[@greggen4033]

5:21 why did the tier 4 ammo only do 9 dmg to the tier 3 armor, but vs the green armor it did full dmg (32) and then again vs tier 4 armor it did normal dmg to the vest again?

[@TheBeardGuys]

See pinned comment. There was only 9hp left on the vest as I hadn't reset the dummy properly from previous hits

[@francobuzzetti9424]

my screens in the firing range don't let me choose armor, is there any option to enable it? i tried both in operations and warfare

[@razrskyrim8433]

25,1 damage on blue with purple rounds ain’t 75% damage, that would be 20,25..

[@TheBeardGuys]

I just retested to check, the damage shown was an error as the target I was shooting had already been damaged, so that shot you see broke the amour and therefore penned more than normal. 25% reduction is correct.

[@DJ_Taylor24]

7:15 so if I change to green ammo in the vector and continue to use the car-15 with purple ammo lol you’ll also see the mistake you’ve made lol

[@dariogiovannelli3320]

But the ddamage one tier down wasnt reduced by 25% in the first car-15 schot or was i tripping you did 25.1 of 27 that doesnt add up in my mind maybe thats not working correctly atm. But i love your videos I highly recommend you to my friends for the secrets as well :D

[@TheBeardGuys]

I just retested to check, the damage shown was an error as the target I was shooting had already been damaged, so that shot you see broke the amour and therefore penned more than normal. 25% reduction is correct.

[@VũMinhChiến-q7b]

I wonder how many takes it took to get this video so perfect? My attempts in the kitchen end in a fire🔥

[@siveonfarcloud4190]

TTK is still trash tier. They thought that tweaking the control on weapon would increase TTK, it didn't because weapon are easy to control. The system is overly complicated and its making balancing harder for them for no reason. Full or partial penetration should not exist. Higher armor tiers should simply have more durability. If you must have ammo tiers... then just increase the dmg in proportion to the armor increase.

[@shanejohnson9788]

So helmets are basically useless?

[@TheBeardGuys]

Vest certainly help you much more in terms of survival time vs them. Since head shots do nearly double base damage, and helmets generally have fairly low durability, they get broken very quickly.

[@MidLifeCriTSIs]

just buy a "damaged" blue tier helmet with 20% hearing range. The hearing range value is 10000000% more useful than the protection.

[@nikoladjurovic5843]

Nope, purple helmets are pretty good cus u can't get one taped by blue ammo snipers, I would argue that helmet is more important here cus u die either way if they catch you off guard but with a good helmet u can survive a sniper

[@andreiserde9441]

So maybe helmets are only good vs snipers so that you don't get 1 shotted, haha.

[@willieengelbrecht-ri3vm]

Hi who here plays delta force mobile

[@VorchunWZM]

Brother, when does the game come out on consoles

[@Smokey0701]

Brother how tf would he know.

[@folkgames1269]

When its ready 😂 Devs don't say anything. Could be one month or six.

[@TheBeardGuys]

Q1 this year was the last we heard, so by end of March. They've gone quiet on it since before Christmas though so I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed it.

[@ocaraevil]

so is dumb calculated. if penetrated why would do damage to the vest? 1 bullet deal 27+32 = 59 damage. 32 + 20 = 52 one tier lower. if it is in the same tier it deals 32 + 13.5 = 45.5 damage. only one tier up armor bullets do what was supposed to do 32 damage on armor. 2 tiers down shouldn't damage the vest because penetrated and did full damage to the body 27 damage. same tier if will protect half so the damage to the vest should be the other half 16 + 13.5 = 29.5 damage. the devs are dumb or they did on purpose just to have the illusion that armor matter(and make people have something to spend the currency of the game) in the lower tiers. the way is the game today blue vest or lower is just to protect against bots(that don't have blue ammo). what they were thinking to do that? ex:1 bullet of a desert eagle. do 53 + 56 = 109 damage. why?

[@mensuffertoo-TAB]

The TTK in this game is so fast wearing armor is pointless, iv had far more successful extractions running knife only or bot gear than i have juiced up and im currently sitting on 86 Million alloys

[@stanislavkhramov5948]

When you get killed by 3 shots after unloading half a mag into lvl.5 armour guy you'd change your mind 😂

[@RTX40_Gaming]

​@@stanislavkhramov5948well you didnot get his point !! Definately, he has experienced that scenario about what you are talking , thats why he mentioned to go without any loadout and come our fully loaded.. if you die there is nothing to loose !!!

[@MrRaycruzer]

its called gear fear, what you gonna do with 86 mil.

[@xjobiex]

​@@MrRaycruzer came here to say this

[@stanislavkhramov5948]

@@RTX40_Gaming you propose to play "Delta Force: Knife Runs" all along?

[@AtraxX98]

Man :( can you stop showing my Vektor in those guides. I don’t know which of you KZbin guys it was but suddenly the price exploded and went from 40-70k to 150-200k. It already hurts to mod that gun, didn’t need to get that expensive on its own. And it’s the best *cough* WORST gun in the game since the beta.

[@TheBeardGuys]

The price went up because of the seasonal missions requiring people to get Vector PVP kills I believe. Hopefully they'll come back down, it's pretty brutal at the mo!