Delta Force "Spyware" Anti Cheat Scandal Sparks Poor Steam Reviews!

[@EndersFPS]

Guys…. you know that me asking the devs of Delta Force questions YOU asked doesn’t make me a shill when you don’t like the answer they provided…. right? Surely the brainrot isn’t that deep. On a side note, keep saying I’m a shill. You look like a clown lol, none of you know anything. Haven’t signed a single document or received a dime from Delta Force, so keep crying I guess LOL

[@tacoking5685]

'We investigated ourselves and found no signs of any wrong doing." That's what this video says.

[@WooxSB]

@@tacoking5685 "imma review bomb this game for not having any tolerance for cheaters" is what the majority of the bad reviews are coming from

[@mt.libertybell9250]

Sadly, critical thinking is dead with these people

[@AkashZaman277]

@@WooxSB Yet they're the ones who cry when there's no working anti cheat in games lol. People nowadays.....

[@Fjdjfjsz92938]

@@WooxSBthat is not the same as not wanting to play a game with spyware anti cheat

[@ReaperTheRager]

People walk around all day with a camera, GPS, and microphone in their pocket then worry about their privacy lol

[@EndersFPS]

They actually think that China doesn't have their data just from them breathing the wrong way

[@ReelMeurik]

Add to that, frequenting social media sites where they've clicked "I agree" to several levels of EULA/TOS :P

[@FrozenSkyes1]

They actually think China doesn't have their sleep data from last night.

[@Random_Dude777-v7x]

​@@FrozenSkyes1 data has already been stolen multiple decades ago 😂

[@griffin1366]

Windows, Discord, Steam, Chrome... Battlefield 4, 1, V, 2042... Valorant, League of Legends... But for some reason it's a problem now.

[@joecrow7666]

The devs Bombarded the steam page with fake positive reviews with random 3 sentence positive Feedback from private Accounts. Put me off immediately

[@ryan3371]

So basically, cheaters are mad

[@EndersFPS]

lmao

[@Rafay_qayyum]

😂

[@krazyboxer4453]

this has nothing to do with cheaters its not about the game the anti cheat is made by ace which is tencents. and guess were this anticheat is from china and it has kernel level access to ur pc. i also want to remind u there have been alot of these reskins coming out from tencet. and china can flip the switch any time and take over alot of pples computers without us knowning. and use are computers as weapons. the gov thinks tiktok is bad let them get word of this anti cheat being on thousands or hundred of thousands of american pcs. with kernel level access.

[@seddyx8994]

Pretty much and I guarantee you the most of the people gave those bad reviews are the Call of duty ride or die losers. The one who called this man a schill. Funny thing is that these die hard Activision soldiers are the schills. They pissed away their money on our freaking already expensive game and get more stuff. So technically you can say Call of duty is about lifespan about at least $2,000-$3,000 every time you buy the game. Remember you got sweaty nerds who will go on and buy like these $50 skins and never touch the game.

[@copyrightsucks7966]

Yep if you read it them steam man iam laughing

[@JonMow]

games with kernel-level anti-cheat include:"GTA5, PUBG, Fortnite, Apex Legend, and Valorant...." there might be a game on these idiots' machine running with the program but they still cry anyway

[@jgsource552]

these dumbasses probably also use tik tok and instagram. Go figure

[@KenshinMadeit]

Don't forget to add Battlefield 2042 & CoD to this list As Well.

[@Dinief]

Well, its just some people targeting the "anti china"

[@Micromation]

They do and it does absolutely nothing against the cheating 🙃

[@Sarahsqueak]

​@@Micromationvalorant has the best anticheat on the market currently

[@reasonse100]

Its crazy false information like this gets spread around, hope this video blows up my boi because these devs that ACTUALLY care about their game and community deserve better.

[@alexrajczyk2450]

@@reasonse100 yes I agree. The devs do seem to be caring about what happens in their game which I fully sport. It's great to see a hunge gaming company actually communicating with thier players and actually try and resolve issues that arise in the game.

[@Fjdjfjsz92938]

There is no false information, the game might be great but an anti cheat that spies on you spies on you no matter what

[@Cramblit]

They're chinese... they don't have a single cell of inspiration, skill, or care in the world except to copy paste whatever they can, and try to nickel and dime you for the lowest amount of effort as possible. Chinese is Chinese. It's always lower quality walmart crap of the world.

[@RonaldRegain]

So we all need to reinstall Delta Force just to get rid of their Anti Cheat? Wooow. So I'm downloading 3 hs a game for second time, that I uninstalled 15 Mins after playing, just to get rid of their Anti Cheat. Thats pretty bad. Esp. because many got this Anti Cheat for longer now, because they won't know about this issue. That's what you guys need to understand.

[@Diamond-ji2gv]

​@RonaldRegain not even that, apparently during the private beta, if u wanted to uninstall to anticheat, u had to uninstsll the game and then go to appdata, I think, and delete another file related to the anticheat. Game is mediocre at best tbf

[@jonessii]

appreciate you for relaying dev info, it's great that you reach out to them and great that they respond.

[@Critikal4k]

There are different levels of anticheat, but as a programmer, i sit back and watch the chaos of media. Just remember that Steam makes sure it covers their own tail, so choose where you get your information.

[@pseudohyena]

I know nothing about this anti cheat, so I can't comment on it. But all the "Developers told me" sound a lot like "We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong"

[@MrSalukas]

If you believe delta force a Chinese conspiracy to get to our data then yes, this could be a cover up. Do you have any proof of that? I think it's insane that you don't think about it just being a bug from a new game. It's new, of course it has bugs...

[@EndersFPS]

So what will you say when they tweet it and a patch is pushed?

[@abbe9641]

@@EndersFPS the patch is pushed to fix the issue because people made a fuss about it, they would not have fixed it otherwise, free data for tencent.

[@pseudohyena]

@EndersFPS Not sure, to be honest, but maybe pretty much the same. I'm a game programmer myself, and it's kinda hard for me to come up with the bug that would prevent you from deleting the app. And I think it's only fair for people to be skeptical of this kind of thing. Furthermore, as far as I'm aware, kernel anti cheats do not actually help anyway.

[@pseudohyena]

Though again, I don't know anything about this anti cheat, and I never worked on one, so I might be wrong. Just saying that people are totally justified in being skeptical, especially nowadays.

[@RicePho]

As a P.C gamer I don't mind at this point. I'm too tired of not being able to enjoy P.C multiplayer games without a hacker ruining it for me.

[@le_psycho-pratte8243]

True. We prefer good experience instead of privacy. All that because of cheaters.

[@intellectic9155]

This ain't stopping anything....

[@VenominaI]

Tbh anticheats are pointless if a cheater is dedicated, DMA cheating is still bypassing every anticheat.

[@mup8661]

​@@intellectic9155True but this lowers the proliferation of it. The more rare the cheating is the happier I am. Idgaf anymore, if they want to see my collection of porn so be it. I'm proud of my collection 😤

[@FilthyMcFly1983]

Absolutely with you on that! Every time I find a decent game cheaters overrun it in no time.

[@crimsonsunbear5732]

I do think the fear was warranted. Riot informs you clearly about their anti cheat, and people finding out they can't uninstall the anti cheat would be a major red flag to security of future computer. This should have been communicated publicly

[@magruster]

it was, it clearly noted kernel level anti-cheat in the steam listing.

[@WompyWompRat]

They already patched it

[@gregm1855]

It was a bug and they are reporting it. Not sure what more people expect?

[@malikkelly]

@@magrusternot initially

[@asghargodzila]

Ofc cheaters get mad and review bomb when they cant cheat

[@BicBoi1984]

Low IQ take

[@swat4eto]

I love the devs' no tolerance policy on cheaters. They're going to hardware ban you if you cheat and I think more companies should do that. No matter if it's a free IP or if it's 80 clams.

[@derekellisCAN]

Ikr, grab the popcorn !!!

[@AlexMkd1984]

​@@swat4eto delta force has cheaters this is clickbait

[@babytronsab]

this is just wrong lmao, cheaters will have mod menus in about a week from now, people complaining are ones who value privacy, its not even because its a chinese game people hate it when any game has kernel level anti cheat BECAUSE IT DOES NOTHING and it violates privacy for little to no benefit for anti cheat

[@andrewhucher]

Collecting that Delta Force paycheck

[@LunkvanTrunk]

It's good that the anti-cheat deinstall is fixed now. But the bug was in every alpha and was reported, and they did not fix it. And regarding how sensible the gaming "culture" is about this topic, it was a bad oversight they pay the price for now.

[@KudoRedfox]

Tells more about developers not fixing issues until they get review bombed or blowing up, what seemingly "minor" issues gonna add up over time to make the game unplayable?

[@NeonVice87]

That's the problem with the internet, everyone has a voice and people believe every piece of crap that someone says. Thanks for the information!

[@griffin1366]

Yep. People say we are heading towarsd "idiocracy", but really just the internet exposed how stupid most people are.

[@Santoroz]

This information could be absolutely false coming from the company. How do people just believe these companies? This type of access to your system should NEVER be accepted because of some video game. These companies don't need or deserve this access to your PC.

[@griffin1366]

@@Santoroz Please link what a security analysts take on it is. Most people don't even know what Drivers are, yet they are experts on Kernels now?

[@rey6046]

@@griffin1366 you are exactly the one you are referring to

[@chevygiving]

CCP version of 2042

[@EndersFPS]

and it shits all over it lol. Delta Force's gameplay is extremely different to 2042. Many many differences that add up

[@lllhunterlll9644]

@@EndersFPSsadly and simply facts. I tried to like 2042 for 150 hours but couldn’t. I grinded BF1 for around 1000 hrs and was top .02% spm. BFV was top 1%. They ruined the helis in 2042 and overall vibe. BF3 was just a different vibe.

[@chevygiving]

@@EndersFPS I was just making a joke cuz of tencent lmao but yea I agree it is better even if I don’t think of it as highly as you have it’s better than 2042 still has some issues but it’s a new game so I’ll give it time

[@msum23]

@@EndersFPStotally disagree, has just as many issues and glaring bullshit as 2042.

[@RessTheMess]

@@msum23 Cope and Seethe

[@dTheHammerb]

Bro did they really put SBMM in this game? WTF?! Definitely keep us posted with this please, should you get some more information on it.

[@baldocandela1171]

Any Chinese company has to give data to the ccp if they want ur data u should be worried

[@not_hAck3r]

And google, snapchat, insta, etc. does not want your data? They ask you to accept their terms which is 1:1 similar to the CCP

[@jonathanng138]

Ye if they take it so what? If they're taking everyone's data why are you afraid?

[@CUstomlmaoxddddd]

But it would somehow be ok if they gave it to US ?

[@falenone]

@@jonathanng138 This mentality is so wrong on so many levels that I think you are far too gone to even attempt a discussion about it

[@ShadyMike]

Cadwoman spoke on this during the beta, and I've experienced it as well in the beta or "alpha" whatever it was. I believe there is SBMM

[@Pxinkill]

I also wonder about that. In my first few rounds I constantly got 60+ kills but now I struggle to get 30. Could it also be because of the ranked checkmark above the button to start a match or does it still feel like sbmm without the ranked checkmark?

[@v8vato-1]

the thing os that delta force is sponsoring your videos and sponsoring alot of youtubers, so game is overhyped and cant really take advise from someone like you and many others that are getting money from delta force

[@BicBoi1984]

Now he's making excuses for the spyware Chinese anti cheat too. Lost a lot of respect for this dude in the past few days.

[@iHeartAMP]

😂 welcome to politics

[@LunkvanTrunk]

I like the game, but it will take less than 2 weeks and there will be videos about "how delta force will die if they don't to these 5 things". And saying privacy doesn't matter because they have your data anyway is such a low IQ take. Holy moly. We had to put these statements in a test at university, "what would people with a naive opinion about privacy say?" and these comments are textbook-style answers. But I get it, if you are under 25 you don't really care, I didn't either.

[@Kallosar]

Found the cheater

[@abbe9641]

@@BicBoi1984 yeah it's pretty clear enders is a shill, if you value opinions of youtubers go somewhere else, it's clear money can bend this guys morals away.

[@HK416A5-]

People are idiots, what can you do. Absolutely no critical thinking

[@AlexMkd1984]

your stupidity is hilarious tupidity

[@DschungelKatze]

I'm definitely leaving a negative but for a different reason. Being forced to use the proprietary launcher should not be a thing (not relevant for every country though)

[@GraphicJ]

2:12 This kind of crap is what discourages me from playing. Constant wall hacks 'abilities' through non stop smoke. Sigh

[@msum23]

yup, 2042 is nowhere near as obnoxious as this games abilities

[@N3ffy-g7d]

skill issue lol

[@legozxx6655]

@@N3ffy-g7d it's a stupid ass apex legend type mechanic for this kind of a game.

[@closerqaq4321]

just hotfixed the smoke problem

[@EndersFPS]

Needs to be changed 100%

[@DoomRaiden]

Apex Legends with EA operate under US Data Protection laws, if they sell my data I can sue and hold them accountable. Rainbow 6 Siege under Ubisoft operate under EU GDPR. If they sell my data, I can sue and hold them accountable. I cant hold Chinese developers legally accountable for data protection for handing it to CCP, so what do I do?

[@Anubis_-_]

How would you ever know if they sold your data? They’ll never tell you

[@unmagz]

Maybe you can hold accountable the EU ones (a big maybe) but forget about the US ones as they sell your data, my data and everyones data on the daily.

[@DoomRaiden]

@@Anubis_-_ Circular argument. Facebook has been sued twice in my home country for privacy breaches and not complying with GDPR. My argument wasn't "will criminals commit crime", it was "can I hold them accountable if a crime is found"

[@camper5579]

​@@DoomRaideni bet you can but the thing is even with western companies it wont go anywhere

[@Anubis_-_]

@@DoomRaiden maybe on paper that sounds good but you need millions of dollars to even get near a court room. The justice system is not set up to help the common man. The only accountability they have if they lose a case is paying out a small fine and not one cent is ever seen by the people whose data has been stolen or sold. Sounds like a tap on the wrist, not justice

[@holasalonto]

there is some sort of SBMM in this game, i took a week off and hop in a game and drop 107 kills, I proceed to start up the next game and just get absolutely raw dogged the whole match.

[@F_Around_and_find_out]

You should be uneasy when the anti cheat gets kernel level access, alongside failure to uninstall itself along with the game, and failure to turn off when the game is turn off. You should pressure the developers into implementing a reasonable anti cheat, not Big Brother level always on anti cheat. Also Steam should add a third rating: No Confidence rating for concerned gamers. Because when there are only positive and negative, even minor concerns can go straight into a negative.

[@clalam5241]

Mmm youre just paranoid . Just give all your info to china dude , its really no big deal man . Just send your address and name in this comment section man , its no biggie

[@EyeOfJanuary]

Steam quite literally warns you though that you're going to be installing ACE... you have just about every chance not to do it.

[@JustxLiving909]

@@clalam5241wierdo

[@F_Around_and_find_out]

@@EyeOfJanuary The whole point here is to find the middle ground between anti cheat and user's system. Not the purist To Do or Not To Do.

[@denhawken]

Blah blah blah.. just say you like to hack and cheat!

[@R4ZORLIGHT]

Sorry man, but the criticism about the anit cheat is NOT review bombing. Stop using this term for every negative review. Like you said yourself, it is/was a bug and people pointed it out, why they gave a negative review... Also not every negative review is about the anti cheat, the game has issues, it is an open beta after all. I give you a few weeks and you will criticize and rant about this game as well, thats how it goes every time (i've been experiencing this many many times)

[@farmeunit]

It's beta and you're crying? People ruin everything and this is just another example of shitty people acting shitty, then crying about how misunderstood they are.

[@R4ZORLIGHT]

@farmeunit and you should learn to read and understand. You are crying and whining lol.

[@farmeunit]

@R4ZORLIGHT "Now you are but what am I..." Great comeback. What's there to read? You're standing up for people complaining about a game that isn't even finished, and they fixed the problem, because the reviews are still there making a game look bad for no reason. That is review bombing. That's why they have bug reporting platforms, Discords, forums, etc., so these can be discussed and fixed, or act like children that you're defending and saying everyone else will have a problem with the game too... Lol

[@zamb0di]

The review feature is not a bug reporting forum or in any other way a way to communicate with developers. It is there for users to leave a review of, you know, the game. So yeah, by definition, that is review bombing.

[@R4ZORLIGHT]

@@zamb0di Yet, people don't know this is a bug, when the issue started. Also most other negative reviews aren't even about the anti cheat. Jesus, please for gods sake, learn the definition of review bombing, please google it.

[@allofyourdreams]

How do you side-aim instead of using the scope when ADS-sing? 06:09 for example

[@MrHydrous]

use laser and when in game change the zoom

[@EndersFPS]

It’s bound to N by default. You need one of the higher level lasers for the laser aim

[@Synickal]

Idk about this but I know I can’t play because it’s sending me to far off servers with ping so high the game lags all over and is unplayable, have made 2 reports to them both times they blame my internet, I have contacted my ISP and it’s not on my end, others are also having this issue. DF staff is zero help, they have serious server issues and refuse to address what is going on.

[@sheldonkupa9120]

Well, this is ridicilous. Any game with this sort of anti-cheat is more or less the perfect backdoor. There is good reasons why such games are still not playable under linux. Boys, use a dedicated gaming machine, and dont do anything sensitive on that machine. You cant be safe there. At least dual boot. I use linux for anything but playing.

[@Lucachetii]

Ok bud you clearly hiding stuff on your drives

[@mdj7268]

Yet all those people probably use TikTok.

[@abbe9641]

dude stop sucking up to these devs, had people not made such a large fuss about no being able to remove the anti cheat they would not have fixed it, remember this is tencent we are talking about, just because other games have kernel level anti cheats doesn't mean it makes it more okay especially one we don't know about, ACE is not well known and for all i know it could be stealing all my data, EAC on the other hand is well known and it could also be stealing my data but there's too much money at stake so they won't.

[@altobruh9035]

What is EAC

[@griffin1366]

Windows, Chrome, Discord also steal my data. What is another one these days..

[@EndersFPS]

Your data is already bought and sold 100 times over lol

[@perilousintent2936]

​@@EndersFPS So you just let them keep going without anything to do about it? Saying that does nothing to help the issue. "They already have your data anyway, so you might as well let them steal more data since they already have it"

[@griffin1366]

@@perilousintent2936 No, it's not okay. But it's only a video game and I have a dedicated gaming PC that I don't care what happens to. The only way you can avoid this is to have fully custom setup of Linux, browser + plugins, modified modem, custom DNS, VPN or ToR... The list goes on. With that setup, you're not playing video games. So pick your poison. Not to mention your phone, CCTV etc. You can't escape it, so compartimentalize it instead.

[@mrumbrella9961]

Update: They fixed it. That too within hours of gamers complaining. These guys are incredible

[@alexrajczyk2450]

People don't read anymore. People don't look into anything properly anymore. People don't pay attention to anything anymore.

[@NORTHSID3]

Yup

[@willpine7343]

tik tok instagram attention span

[@R4ZORLIGHT]

Lol people did pay attention, thats why this issue is even highlighted. Even the devs stated, that it is a bug. Also chinese devs, they need to earn trust. Not their fault but their governments.

[@RNeeko]

About SBMM and lobbies feeling like tournament lobbies, I noticed how my queue time drastically increases after the first few games. It went from nearly instant to taking a minute or 2. Of course wallhack spam is also responsible for feeling like it's impossible to flank but man it feels so rough sometimes. I'm convinced they've committed the sin of adding SBMM to a Battlefield style game.

[@nSanityy]

Thats what I wanted to say, the game literally says "Ranked" with a checkbox. Havent tried turning it off and checking then but I noticed queue times being much longer too after ranking up a couple times

[@IlConteSky]

​@@nSanityy I always play with Ranked turned off and honestly didn't felt like lobbies were sweaty

[@drgreenthumnb]

@@IlConteSky my first few lobbies were normal. felt like a casual game. now after 30 or so games its a god dam sweat fest.

[@RNeeko]

@@nSanityy I didn't see the ranked toggle. Never seen it be done like that before. I thought I was queuing for regular matches. Way less sweaty now with ranked off.

[@viceofwrath76]

I do hope they polish up some stuff though. Not calling it spyware but when my gf launched the game she got a shit ton of antivirus alerts from windows and twice now when im in discord with friends after a while of playing my mic stops working in discord and i cant control + r discord to refresh it until i close the game completely

[@ccea_3050]

I love how Marvel Rival also has kernal level anti-cheat. But no one questioning about it. Simply because it doesn't sounds like a Chinese game

[@Revan13372]

Wait really?

[@ccea_3050]

@Revan13372 Yes, Marvel Rivals use the same anti-cheat as NARAKA (Another Netease game)

[@CrimsonRequiem1]

@@ccea_3050people heard China and their heart sank

[@tomhanke4692]

could you ask what happend to the emotes? I loved the Hackclaw gaming emote in the alpha and now its gone somehow I`m afraid they removed them completely...

[@nastytechniquez9685]

The headglitching is savage. I’d love to see that changed, where your bullets come from a lower point on the character profile. As it stands now you’re basically firing from your eyeballs

[@LunkvanTrunk]

Regarding the increasing difficulty, is it the ranked mode? What is even the ranked mode? Just getting ranks for cosmetics, or do you get different lobbies?

[@PoorMemerClan]

5 battlefield enjoyers are mad lol

[@msum23]

even BFV shits all over this game by a wide margin

[@Random_Dude777-v7x]

​@@msum23 🧢

[@griffin1366]

@@msum23 said nobody ever

[@Cattildo]

​@msum23 bfV? You mean the one with the handicapped British lady fighting in the trenches? That one?😂😂😂

[@drgreenthumnb]

@@griffin1366 na hes right. this game is just china BF and copies other games poorly

[@uliseto]

Right now my ONLY complaint is the weird stuttering every 6 seconds, it became unplayable after yesterday's update

[@CrimsonRequiem1]

Check your drivers or something, I haven’t had stuttering issues at all.

[@crittercel]

1:30 and there is constant uproar about kernel level anti-cheat, no one wants it. 2:12 i don't think it's out of this world to think a game developed by TENCENT would may be try doing something malicious and hoping it goes unnoticed.

[@MrSalukas]

I want kernel level anti cheat, and I wish counter strike adds it as soon as they can. Also riot is partly owned by tencent, yet their kernel level anti cheat has had no controversies regarding privacy or security. It had some controversies because it was the first big kernel anti cheat, but not because of the way it worked.

[@griffin1366]

We hate cheaters! -> Here's an anti-cheat -> Noo, not like that! MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

[@bg3545]

​@@griffin1366 bro fr stop crying about cheaters if you hate this damn anti cheat (Fuck you cheaters tho)

[@BicBoi1984]

​@@MrSalukaskernel level anti cheat is easily bypassed. It has no real upsides and just gives corporations access to everything on your PC. You are an imbecile.

[@sayer187]

Kentucky Fried Chicken Colonel level - Dice/EA Spreading Diss/Miss Information

[@ajuicedapple8492]

You should post in-depth operations guides

[@EndersFPS]

I will

[@vitcon4273]

They go to internet, give phone numbers, email, their location and personal photos to companies yet they worry about their privacy I'm confused

[@denhawken]

Just hackers and their flying monkeys mad. That is all

[@charc0al_tv]

Right, only cheaters would be bothered by installing CCP malware on their PCs and giving it full contol. Regular players should have no problem

[@BadatGaming360]

On fps "bar" it says Delay 72 ms.... mine is at 70ms... how do i lower this?

[@JOExSPARTIAN]

Appreciate the video clarifying some things, I saw the review and was a little hesitant at first. I decided I'll wait a day or two to see what the official word would be. Now I look forward to downloading this when I get off work today and checking it out

[@robinjulien5163]

Sorry, but maybe the game is not that good and people expected more and that's why they don't give a a good review. Don't get me wrong, the game is fine, but it has a long way to go to be great. That said I will play the game till the new Battlefield comes out.

[@NoTalker_]

How do you feel about the maps? I don't like that it all feels like breakthrough or operation locker 24/7 choke point grenade and smoke spam, just everyone fighting in one area. I tried king of the hill some people were saying it's the conquest mode but most of the maps are setup to where both side meet at a point and it's everyone in on spot chaos again. If like to see a conquest mode where points are spread out and little battles between squards are the main thing. Idk of I explained enough hopefully I got my point across

[@expendtencion7580]

Crazy how braindead people are, lacking common sense. All they do is cry and cry about privacy blah blah blah. Despite the fact ur personal info is probably been sold millions of times already. People need to grow up.

[@TRIPPYMAINE92]

Kids these days… brain dead TikTok infested zombies. I wish they would educate themselves like kids from the 90’s… critical thinking and commonly sense is lost in this generation and it’s scary.

[@intellectic9155]

You miss the point...

[@nomnom11111]

Chinese spotted

[@charc0al_tv]

Chinese bot comment.

[@FindingAnything]

My game doesn't even start it shows that my system is too hostile and to turn off my background apps but I have no problem playing Marvel Rivals and The finals. So, What's with that??

[@hank3634]

Enders did u check the list of software requirements to close down No other game asks to does that afaik Also I looked up videos on this AC and there are diff levels inside. Video you should be making is "what level of system control they are using" with this AC Even Microsoft is concerned abt the level of access these AC are taking over. This was a disappointing video you only spoke abt the issue in the beginning and the rest is irrelevant to the video title. Very little research done

[@EndersFPS]

Video game anti cheat isn't going to steal your SSN bro, China already has that anyway xd

[@griffin1366]

I couldn't find this list. What do you have to close down? I have never needed to do anything like that.

[@hank3634]

​@@EndersFPSignorance is bliss

[@snitch3]

I saw a video with cheats, literally below this video in the feed on KZbin😂

[@EndersFPS]

lmaooo no way??

[@Grantykinss]

I’m so glad you mentioned that it feels like a hidden SBMM because that’s definitely how I’ve felt. I maintained a 3kd on the alpha, but here it feels like the second I get above a 3kd the next 4 games in a row it’s like the enemy team is competing to win 100k. I thought at first it was a skill issue of not knowing the maps, but the more I play the more I realise it’s not isolated and it’s happening consistently.

[@rickd6914]

I think they've hidden the AI in the game. Saw a video on reddit of someone showing this, but I wanted to test this for myself and started to just follow team mates in game when I played and there is no shot, some of them are human players.

[@thedeleted1337]

4:15 the fact I have to preface this is cringe, the game is enjoyable. However the Attack and Defend (I havent played King of the Hill) gameplay loop just feels like Spearhead from 2042 where youre constantly getting shot from everywhere, massive spurts without cover, vehicle call in spam and then the map evolves into Operation Metro in ALL 5 maps. I really don't see how they can fix these fundamental issues even with gadget/ability cooldowns being drastically increased. They would need total map reworks.

[@SquidlyCFST]

Hey Enders, off topic question from the video. When you buy attachments in the extraction mode for guns, is that permanently unlocked for use on guns or is that charge just a one time charge and you have to spend it again for the next gun you want to modify? Maybe you could do a little known things about guns and gear video?

[@vikramgogoi3621]

When you say the anti-cheat isn't removed does it mean we have to manually remove it or does it remain in my system forever. If its the latter, then its a serious issue.

[@EndersFPS]

The anti cheat wasnt deleted when you uninstalled the game. That is now fixed and it is deleted. You could also manually delete it within like 2 minutes

[@LunkvanTrunk]

You can delete the service and the files per hand, but a little knowledge of cmd.exe / powershell is needed. Basically, the uninstall routine was bugged and you have to do it yourself.

[@quakeIVreal]

"I knifed Nadeshot and he said it was the worst moment of his career." Hard ass flex

[@Underground3]

Why are they given you this information instead of making that announcement themselves, so false information doesn't spread too quickly? They could've easily prevent this wildfire on their own game if they made the announcement that their anti-cheat is currently bug, and gonna to fix it in the next patch.

[@Furebel]

They made an announcment in which they said jack shit. Which means all allegations are right if they have not disproven them.

[@NACHTMERRIEFABRIEK]

Are they going to add controler support on pc? Or still until console release?

[@iamthatguy6907]

Have they fixed ACE interfering with other anti cheats like easy ?

[@EndersFPS]

I will ask them

[@KillDozer44]

the footstep audio is really bad, I'll try loudness EQ off maybe that will help

[@skylinelife5396]

Audio is really off all together. Ive had people full autoing me from 5 ft away with 0 gun audio. Everything is kinda off

[@KillDozer44]

@ Yea dudes sprinting behind me zero audio

[@EndersFPS]

Yeah footsteps are quite muffled

[@TheAlphaOmegaX3]

I dont think its the anti-cheat being there that people are weary of. Its more the fact that any company in China is required to give their government all data they collect. Personal or otherwise. People are very careful around anything China related. Though im not sure the past few years our government has been much better at protecting our data either. Looking forward to learning more from your videos to see if its for me.

[@BicBoi1984]

None of these kernel level anti cheats do jack shit to stop anyone remotely serious. It takes $20 to buy a mini computer to bypass all Kernel level anti cheats. This is just chinese spyware. The fact that it wouldnt delete itself after uninstalling the game honestly warrents taking it off steam.

[@adityanarre2860]

They replied to a person on twitter few minutes ago before you commented stating that they fixed the issue and now it gets uninstall with the game

[@Alexsejovoskilovzaksilovokoswa]

feels like enders is just shilling out ngl

[@swaggames_]

People having a mini computer to cheat aren't the main offenders that get caught from anti cheat

[@Dioshiroupn]

You have nothing important enough for them to spy on, I promise you.

[@kylebeach2316]

Then if you believe it is indeed Spyware then why won't you bring it up too court of law? 🤣 good luck cause they won't take you seriously lmao

[@LoganR__21]

Some things I’d like to see - Less UI No wall hack ability Less smoke What happened to the conquest mode?

[@jeffreyjones9715]

definitely sus that it doesn’t remove itself after uninstalling the game

[@FVDERS]

People complain about cheaters in games but once a company does something about cheaters they start crying.

[@LordLOC]

Regardless that other games use the kernel level anticheat - the problem many people have with it isn't that the game is from Tencent (that is just a coincidence at this point) it's that a kernel level anticheat is considered a rootkit to a ton of people who are actively protesting kernel level anticheat like this.

[@denhawken]

Hackers and their flying monkeys 🐒 🙈 🙊..

[@juliusjacob1416]

The fact that you keep getting beamed instantly and are unable to flank is because of all the 3D spotting mechanics. Ruins immersion and tactical gameplay. They should remove all the wallhacking/spotting bs.

[@RGRG-vc6ii]

Urgent fixes are: too much smoke and too arcadish gunplay/ballistics.

[@Tehonlyspennaaah]

I wouldn't also look past the fact that because this is not a Western developer, there is a lot of implicit racism with the amount of vitriol this game (and others) have received for its anti-cheat. This was a similar issue with Valorant with Riot's ties to China and immediately people railing against Riot. The fact of the matter is that other games/devs who have implemented kernel-level anti-cheat (for which it is very widespread as you mentioned) have no faced the same level of criticism or scrutiny. There are naturally some concerns people may have and that is fine but there is a huge disparity in the scale of the response and criticism directed towards notably Chinese devs/publishers over Western ones. EDIT: I don't think most people see a non-Western dev and immediately foam at the mouth and are racist. I just think there is a lot of implicit bias as a result of Chinese-ties. I don't even think it's that overt or clear to the people perpetuating this shit either.

[@TheDaidai05]

People have issues with a Communist led country, It's not because Chinese racism

[@unmagz]

It's just red-scare all over again. The same thing happened during the Cold War with soviet products. Now its chinese products. Even if they spy on you, they won't be the first ones to do so as your goverment (and my goverment) already do that.

[@IlConteSky]

This.

[@thedeleted1337]

Riot games is a US company owned by China and can get punished if they commit a crime. Valorant which was the first title under riot to have a a kernel level anti cheat (2020) did not have backlash by competitive/ranked players because that was already a staple in counter strike with faceit and esea. The only backlash was by a vocal minority on the league of legends subreddit this year because they are ignorant on the subject. And again, logical people don't complain about Western companies with kernel level anti cheats because they CAN be held accountable. Theres so much more nuance in on this topic but saying theres "a lot implicit racism" is just virtue signaling and is a bad faith comment.

[@josephhall7317]

Has anyone else got this to work on Lenovo legion Go and it work with the built in comtrollers or Xbox controller? I already found a community layout and set it but it still just wants mouse & keyboard I just can't play

[@portgasdace3295]

Thank you for the work and information you’re providing there’s fer people who can critic and provide a solution to a problem and you do that really well

[@descher147]

“The more you play, the harder it gets” It’s because it’s AI, and they didnt remove it

[@beckerod777]

Very astute analysis of the game play and how to fix it. Being beamed across the map as soon as you peek out or fire one shot sucks. I hope they implement your suggestions, because as it is, the game play is just unappealing to me and I find myself just being frustrated.

[@ARMaster]

3:56 You mentioned that there might be some hidden SBMM in the game, and I was just wondering the same thing after the 4 matches of A/D I played last night. First day of DF release, first match on Trench A/D I went 95/32 w/ a loss, then later the matches started to become extra sweaty. Last night somehow the matchmaking puts me on teams of players who couldn't get more than 10 kills against a team of sweats 3 out of 4 matches. Ngl I thought I was going crazy and thought that I may have developed some "skill issue", but now that you brought it up there might be some fuckary going on behind the scenes. If that's the case, the AI wasn't going to be the only problem. I'm hoping this isn't the case.

[@prostreetbeetdhd4586]

I have never used stream reviews as a measure of whether to get a game. Guess a lot of people do tho.....

[@swat4eto]

It definitely DOESN'T deserve all the flak they're getting because of this. People are just getting paranoid over all the predatory shit Activition has done with their latest installment of "Call Of Your Wallet Otherwise No Damage 6" and the other sussy shit predominantly chinese companies have pulled off. This game doesn't deserve the review bombing and they should fix the review stats asap because it'll damage the image. On the closed ALPHA test I've racked up about 60 hours of game time. NO OTHER game EVER in its Alpha stage has been released so polished and full of content. I honestly don't know what people want more? It's FREE, there's NO PAY TO WIN, most of the coolest cosmetics you can unlock NATURALLY simply by playing. It has more content thant Battlefield 2042 and it's a more easy going user friendly version of an extraction shooter that has a surprisingly high skill ceiling. 5/5 fuck what anyone else thinks. And this is my personal, unbiast, unpaid, unfiltered opinion. Have a lovely day and ease up on the paranoia, just enjoy a good thing when you have it, stop trying to pull it apart searching for things that aren't there. Peace!

[@AkashZaman277]

The only complaint I have for this game is the sensitivity settings. I'm trying to figure out the best one for me but it feels weird. Too fast or too slow. I can't find a sweetspot. Could you please do a video on a decent or optimal sens settings which players could look at and then edit from there for themselves ?

[@nietykalnyy]

so should i play it or am i fucked if i do?

[@frozennoodles4179]

Only issue I have with the games. They put a pornographic sound effect as a death noise which is rather well known by the community

[@mrwickpt]

I'm already watching the movie of Trump banning Delta Force in America in the first week of his presidency 🙈😆 Trump " Kernel + China = The Chinese are spying on our families and using your children as cover" hahahah this is going to be epic

[@TRIPPYMAINE92]

His followers are the ones in these reviews. But it will happen. They choose for less freedom now they better embrace it LOL 😂😂😂

[@swaggames_]

TDS sheesh

[@drgreenthumnb]

@@TRIPPYMAINE92 na other way around buddy

[@zachareylake5651]

It's actually incredibly genius; I remember putting a hint of chocolate in someone's pizza and seeing if they noticed. Inside the piece of chocolate, I put in a hint of meth. Hours later, they mentioned how the pizza taste slightly off. They didn't pay much mind to it a few minutes later as they were off to cleaning a bunch of random shit. You do one thing to cover the other and just like this bullshit, you'll all be occupied with the kernel

[@TRIPPYMAINE92]

@@drgreenthumnb keep on dreaming

[@swat4eto]

7:07 I think suppression AND spread should be implemented just to add a few extra healthy layers of skill required to confirm a kill. There's no point in having 76 different attachments on a weapon if you can just mount up on a ledge and hose down 4 people from 100m with a single mag. Completely onboard with that idea. Battlefield 1's gunplay was unique, it would be a good starting point. Also, R6 Siege's gunplay. Another one that comes to mind is Tarkov, but that's a WHOLE different can of worms I'm not going to open. TL:DR: Make gun go boink when fire if u want to see cling cling at end of match = good!

[@arx-9mithril397]

No spread, no random recoil. Confirmed by devs in CN blog

[@swat4eto]

@@arx-9mithril397 Like, they're not going to add it or?

[@arx-9mithril397]

@@swat4eto not gonna add it but probably will reduce damage on the long range to limit ttk. Changes nothing on my aspect as we all know what matters is hit rate but not ttk

[@arx-9mithril397]

@@swat4eto They definitely have their own idea against the players community. Sadly their ideas are bad and that's how they designed Zoya

[@swat4eto]

@@arx-9mithril397 Agreed. Thanks for the insight mate. ✌🏻

[@spaceball2k]

I discovered this Anticheat days after I uninstalled the DF closed alpha looking in the process manager. It doesn’t uninstall and it keeps running in the background, that’s an issue and needs to be fixed ASAP.

[@oteygoni2531]

Did you watch the video ??

[@denhawken]

​@@oteygoni2531 he's a hacker or one of a hackers flying monkeys 🐒 🙈 🙊

[@jcf4273]

5:03 whhhaaaaaaaaa. Ender can’t beat up on non pro players so easy. My guy. You spend your life playing fps games…..you are a pro. Complaining you are having issues playing people who are closer to your skill level is lame…

[@shti1423lostaccounts]

ikr, brainrot of his on that. its like telling full time rally driver vs rarely on track guy. but the video should be about spyware

[@LynxyFPS]

5:29 I will tell you right now if they do that; change the recoil drastically and making it less arcadie (which is the WHOLE reason why people like the game) the game will die in a year. Doing such a change has NEVER worked....This game will suffer the same fate as XDefiant AND classic H1Z1 where they changed their original game COMPLETELY which ended up losing all of its player base because THAT is what the players like. An arcade style shooter. So if they see this. PLEASE don't do that...This will actually be career suicide.....

[@996ducrider]

Enders I did the loadout you have in the video for the M4 and it is really good. I look forward to seeing all your weapon loadouts when you have time. Cheers. PS. got sniper while I was laying down behind a enormous rock reviving a squad mate. There was no way the sniper had any angle from the kill cam. Also I have already seen full auto semi-auto weapons. Testing shows they have NO single fire RPM limit, can do same rpm as full auto.

[@Furebel]

You have exclusive info from devs that says... nothing new in the end?

[@spakentruth]

Hold up. People being concerned an anticheat gets installed without being able to see which kind it is before installing is moaning and complaining? It might be good to know especially if it isnt a a commonly supported anti cheat that could wreak havoc with other game launchers/AC'S bc multiple other games also have anti cheats. People are installing all kinds of stuff on their computer. The least they can have is some piece of mind the software theyre installing isnt going to conflict with other games and the stability of their system. Be a little more informed enders. If you're going to criticize people's criticisms, do it right.

[@Swan62116]

1:24 I don’t think thats true. Siege and Cod are one of those games that are known to have a massive cheating problem. So to say for them to have kernel level anti cheat doesn’t add up. The only games that I know that have kernel anti cheat is Valorant and LoL.

[@AngelBruni]

Simply Googling would tell you otherwise.

[@Nashness]

Revo Uninstaller - Anti Cheat gone. You're welcome.

[@MrSunglxzz]

Most people on pc are sadly NPCs who have never heard anything about that software.^^

[@Nashness]

@@MrSunglxzz Sad, I know. Those people probably take a shit without a cell phone like back in the old times. :)

[@Furebel]

@@MrSunglxzz Do I need special program to uninstal every single little element lingering after the game is supposedly uninstalled?

[@kylebeach2316]

Mmm yes let me find my tinfoil hat real quick and I'll join ya 🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♂️☠️

[@Soptik1290GAMER]

About the weapon Spread. You don't need spread they can make only the recoil harder

[@dznuts3286]

How does a professional development studio "accidentally" leave behind a trail of garbage files in its first public release? I don't believe it's a bug. That's just what they're going with after the fact. I don't trust any software that prevents me from using tools to monitor performance and system usage. Any game that blocks common tools like afterburner/osd is an instant hard pass. It's like entering a car race but you can't use your dashboard....lmao.

[@agostinaruggero]

The anti cheating system is indeed quite strict, as it will detect many third-party software. It is precisely because it is being released publicly for the first time that an error occurred. Perhaps the previous testing version did not test this anti cheat system, which has led to the current problem

[@agostinaruggero]

If the development team intentionally leaves anti cheating software, this approach is too childish because it will definitely be exposed, which shows the unprofessional nature of the development team

[@t.g7383]

fixed a bug, fine but now, you would need to download game again to have this patch… do they have some PoC that this is really patched?

[@AbbasZaini]

I really don't understand people, especially gamers, complaining about being matched up with real good players, I mean as long as it's fair and there's no privilege in latency, isn't that what competition is all about? Isn't that the joy of playing and winning when your opponent is really good in the game? You can play against bots in one of those pve modes if you don't feel like sweating.

[@B0bM0rriS]

Wish theres a higher cooldown on smokes, this is literally delta smokeforce currently. Also i would like to see a change how nades are working in this game. Would be nice to choose between nades than just setted up nades.

[@shawng4886]

I can only imagine the amount of data Activision actually has on its player base….

[@charc0al_tv]

All the Chinese bot comments on this video: "Who cares about security right? You're just paranoid everyone is spying on you anyway. If you don't and Chinese spyware running as ADMIN on your pc then you're probably just a cheater"