Deltarune Theory: Where is Dess Holiday?

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A brand new Deltarune theory video all about Dess (December) Holiday, Noelle's sister, what happened to her, and how some cut text may shed light on her fate. One of Deltarune's juiciest mysteries for sure! If you like what I do, check out some of my other work...
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@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy this! It's short, but a lot of care and thought went into it. Also, thanks SO MUCH to the new subscribers and to everyone who engaged with the Kris video. The amount of attention was way more than I expected. :O I tried to make the volume balancing on this better, but I'll continue to work on things going forward. I do plan to do more DR analysis vids, but I also do hope to get more IF stuff on this channel sometime soon. More OST stuff, maybe some behind the scenes tomfoolery. You can read IF at invertedfate.com/chapters. I also have a patreon at patreon.com/dorked and a ko-fi at ko-fi.com/invertedfate if you wanna support what I do! Bokke's cool textbox generator: github.com/bokke1010/ut-style-animated-textbox/releases/tag/v0.5.8 Deltarune TCRF: tcrf.net/Proto:Deltarune Inverted Fate Blog - invertedfate.tumblr.com Inverted Fate OST - soundcloud.com/megaflamehedge/sets/inverted-fate-ost My Twitch - twitch.tv/derpisms (I'll be resuming DR streams sometime soon-ish) My Kingdom Hearts AU series, Antipode: archiveofourown.org/series/18376 Hurricane Heartbeat, my other KH fic: archiveofourown.org/series/1607731 My twitter - twitter.com/derpisms
@cookiepooponpon5906
@cookiepooponpon5906 2 жыл бұрын
short or not your videos (and comics) are great
@cerberus_des
@cerberus_des 2 жыл бұрын
0:50 I think is a reference to Doki Doki Literature Club(Also there’s another DDLC Easter egg,the song at the end of the game is a reference to Your Reality)
@potatotech8383
@potatotech8383 2 жыл бұрын
her father is not in bad condition, he is just getting some tests
@theskeptic777
@theskeptic777 2 жыл бұрын
Just a theory of mine but I feel like Noelle, Dess, Berdly, and Kris went into the bunker and saw the knight. And because the knight was making a dark world, being that the 4 were kids they would of course be scared. But not all of them managed to escape the bunker, leaving dess behind trapped in that dark world. If at the end of chapter 3 or 4 we see noelle at the bunker. This theory might hold some merit.
@birdcar7808
@birdcar7808 2 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting. If it’s Dess speaking through Spamton, then maybe his static eyes are supposed to represent that he’s picking up a broadcast from her?
@Mentaclink
@Mentaclink 2 жыл бұрын
And visual static is often called snow
@catthatlooksatyoufunny7377
@catthatlooksatyoufunny7377 2 жыл бұрын
That has big implications if that's the case, with Spamton somehow acting as a radio antena to transmit Dess's message I think this might go somewhere but i don't have the mental capacity to develop it further
@birdcar7808
@birdcar7808 2 жыл бұрын
@@catthatlooksatyoufunny7377 It would make sense because Spamton has a strong phone motif and seems to pick up random signals from the internet and incorporate it into his speech. So maybe he could pick up Dess' message due to that. He also is strongly implied to be some kind of glitch (his wildly off-model sprites, strange way of moving/talking, he's labeled a "cat" in the code, pipis being a misspelling of the word Toby Fox uses for glitches/bugs, constantly changing shop prices, etc.) so it's possible he could randomly pick up Dess' message from the code of the game.
@catthatlooksatyoufunny7377
@catthatlooksatyoufunny7377 2 жыл бұрын
@@birdcar7808 Well, that does sound interesting, but what about Mike? In one of the instances that Spamton goes static, he talks about someone named Mike, and i don't think Dess would know someone like them right? Unless that's a totally different transmission catched by Spamton somehow?
@AZDfox
@AZDfox 2 жыл бұрын
@@catthatlooksatyoufunny7377 could be Dess giving a warning about someone in another Dark World
@neo1754
@neo1754 2 жыл бұрын
i just realised that noelle searched “ice e real cryptid” because in her childhood, kris said that ice e was real and ate kids
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
YEP. God, Noelle and Kris have such an amusing dynamic that way. At least Noelle seems to take it all pretty well and wasn't too scarred by it. She seems to just accept that Kris is this weird gremlin of a person with a love for the macabre and delinquent tendencies.
@Unifoseum
@Unifoseum 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked tbh I feel like Noelle and Kris’s dynamic would be perfect for Underfell Sans and Papyrus lol
@CyanicCore
@CyanicCore 2 жыл бұрын
pfft
@mecburnablasta6811
@mecburnablasta6811 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked Kris is a gremlin confirmed
@mousearson9053
@mousearson9053 2 жыл бұрын
Kris and Susie are both chaotic evil, and I love them very much
@CjJello
@CjJello 2 жыл бұрын
I've held onto this crazy theory that the Snowgrave spell is a violent manifestation of past trauma that Noelle had repressed, and I think it may be a hint as to what happened to December. The key idea behind this theory is how out-of-place Noelle's dialogue feels after the spell is performed. Specifically, the line "I don't feel so good. I think I'm going to go home," seems odd because Noelle is in the middle of an unfamiliar city, with no bearing as to where 'home' is. I think it feels out of place because it is literally out of place; this line was not a reaction to current events. Instead, Noelle is fully reliving a moment in her past, induced by our insistence on pushing her to do terrible things, and the trance state she is in due to the thorn ring.
@DinIsSoCool12
@DinIsSoCool12 2 жыл бұрын
that's actually a pretty good theory
@Salad_09Zel
@Salad_09Zel 2 жыл бұрын
Snow-grave. No-grave. I guess dess didn't get any grave (pun intended)
@Mankofa
@Mankofa 2 жыл бұрын
I strongly agree, it came to my mind as well. She seems to have witnessed some terrible accident that happened to her sister, and her mind could not take it, so the memory has been repressed.
@sp_1029
@sp_1029 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad im not the only one who found that dialogue weird, and damn thats actually an intresting theory
@CjJello
@CjJello 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mankofa Right? Thanks to the snowgrave route, we know that Noelle's initial response to trauma is to black out and repress the memory. She can't even remember things she did minutes after she did them. I feel like this detail really helps strengthen this theory.
@marctaco2624
@marctaco2624 2 жыл бұрын
Theory: Ralsei states multiple times that only Kris’s soul can seal fountains despite the fact that anyone can open them. What if the Player soul came from the bunker’s dark world as an experiment in artificial souls, and when Kris and Dess explored the bunker their own souls were trapped inside. Kris only escaped because their soul was replaced by the player’s soul trapping the children in darkness. Only “Kris’s” soul can seal the fountains because it is made with pure darkness, and only it can save them, but first Kris must open dark worlds to find them. Edit: what if in in a future chapter we find them and Kris abandons us. Our new vessel will be revealed to be the one we created in the opening of chapter 1.
@Jamal-xj1vk
@Jamal-xj1vk 2 жыл бұрын
The Queen said that the Knight created the fountain through their determination, which (excluding Undyne and the Amalgams) is something exclusive to humans. Also, even though Queen and Ralsei thought Noelle or Berdly could make a dark fountain, we never actually see a monster make one. Queen admits she didn't know the full story and was just acting based on the Knight's actions, and Ralsei was convinced that the Queen knew what she was talking about. It's possible they were just mistaken in thinking all lightners could make fountains.
@marctaco2624
@marctaco2624 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jamal-xj1vk nonetheless, Ralsei repeatedly says only “Kris’s soul” can seal them. He words it as if even other human souls are not an option. (Yes there are no other humans in Hometown, but its still an oddly specific phrasing.)
@marctaco2624
@marctaco2624 2 жыл бұрын
And we see other monsters use determination in small amounts, its just that they cannot use too much of it without a powerful soul or else they start to melt, and even then they do not immediately die, just deform.
@ryantrusty8933
@ryantrusty8933 2 жыл бұрын
delayrune true lab equivalent run by gaster and the knight
@marctaco2624
@marctaco2624 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryantrusty8933 probably not run by gaster himself, but has his influence, simmilar to the true lab.
@ChristopherMoom
@ChristopherMoom 2 жыл бұрын
I know that people talk about taking a month off, but I gotta say, it went too far with Dess Don't really have much to contribute besides dumb jokes, but I will say that the connection between the police force and Dess could be why you can specifically talk to Undyne about Dark Worlds, maybe that's why Kris wants to convince her that they're real
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point, actually! Plus, Kris has a save file already. Maybe they do because of contact w/ the bunker. That "started" their file.
@dededeletethis9940
@dededeletethis9940 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked actually, with the release of chapter 2… kris doesn’t have a file anymore. I replayed chapter 1 to make a new main save file (i somehow missed the original starwalker in my first run), and that first save point no longer showed a saved file for kris. It just said “empty“. That might be worth looking into
@BrownKirbyEpic
@BrownKirbyEpic 2 жыл бұрын
@@dededeletethis9940 i just checked and they still do
@dededeletethis9940
@dededeletethis9940 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrownKirbyEpic huh. It wasn’t there for me. Maybe it’s because i was playing on file 2? I might have to investigate further.
@valor5279
@valor5279 2 жыл бұрын
@@dededeletethis9940 I can help! This is another case of things changing between Save files. Kris's Save file disappears permanently once you save, and changing files doesn't change this. So when you go to Save for the first time, the file says Kris, but when you start a new file, it reads [EMPTY] This is one of the only things to change between Save files, along with some Egg shenanigans and Jevil's item and shadowcrystal
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that if you equip Noelle with any ribbons she mentions they seem familiar... which is interesting as there is no ribbon just laying in the computer lab meaning these exist in the Dark World itself... Dess got lost in the Dark World somehow or had an involvement at least. It gets worse when you realize Noelle and her Sister made an Angel and Noelle is an Angel in the Dark World. Angel's Heaven takes on many different meanings now.
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil 2 жыл бұрын
Also she mentions that Spamtons shop feels nostalgic. And that's a mandatory part of Snowgrave. I wonder whats up with that
@j.hawkins8779
@j.hawkins8779 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil no, that is a misconception, you just need to freeze all the enemies in the junk yard. You don't need to go to spamton's shop
@Gustf2
@Gustf2 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.hawkins8779 it isn't common, and I think they just got mixed up
@j.hawkins8779
@j.hawkins8779 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gustf2 i guess
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gustf2 It appears it pretty much every playhrough in Snowgrave, and I think the original guide states you have to do that
@janiradariasmorales7918
@janiradariasmorales7918 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Dess is trapped in the code theory is one that people seem to agree more and more, if it end up being true the question would be how do we save her? the Bunker is clearly a huge part of the plot and I and many people think it will be the last Dark Fountain. A lot of things seems to be conected to this bunker so far, Kris being afraid, Dess dissaperance, this causing Asgore to be fired, which also could had been why Toriel and Asgore are divorced. Dess dissapearance brought Ruin for both the Hollidays and The Dreemurs family. And Undyne being the only one that Kris have a chooice about telling her about the Dark Worlds Both chapters. Kris stabing the tires of Toriel's car was for two things, to keep Susie with them and to bring the police, they want to show Undyne that the Dark World exist and it could be becuase, as some people mention, they saw Dess being engulped and trapped on one.
@valentinamacedo301
@valentinamacedo301 2 жыл бұрын
i agree with the code theory and would like to add that i think the scratching she hears often is the knight opening dark fountains, momentary breaches that she can hear even trapped within the code
@janiradariasmorales7918
@janiradariasmorales7918 2 жыл бұрын
​@@valentinamacedo301 Oh, I never thought that what she hears could be the knight, that makes sense, it could be the only thing she could probably hear while trapped in the code.
@epikitee2186
@epikitee2186 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I kind of think the Castle Town Dark Fountain could be the last fountain, since the door leading to it has 6 wings around it, one for each preceding chapter/Dark Fountain, and Ralsei becoming an antagonist to the player or even to Kris seems very plausible (if sad and undesirable). Also of note: Not-Onionsan hearing a familiar song that they can't quite place coming from deep in the lake.
@janiradariasmorales7918
@janiradariasmorales7918 2 жыл бұрын
@@epikitee2186 It could be a possibility, I never thought that door could possibly lead to the Fountain, but now that you mention it, it makes sense. Well I don't know about an atagonist, there could be a moment that we had to fight Ralsei, maybe in the Weird Route or maybe becuase he is tired of keep pretending for the player. Whatever end up happening it will likely be bittersweet. Yeah, we still don't know what's that singing from the lake, is so strange.
@wildberrysherbert3803
@wildberrysherbert3803 2 жыл бұрын
The scratching could be data miners digging through the files.
@VoodooGMusic
@VoodooGMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same idea. Everyone is always like "ooooh bunker, gaster!" no... ffs. I am pretty certain that it is connected to Dess. Given that Noelle, Asriel, Dess and Kris used to explore creepy places when they were younger, I think it's pretty obvious that they might have explored the bunker as well, and maybe something happened there.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
The bunker probably IS connected to gaster on some level (given the noise it makes being the same "garbage noise" you get when using the phone in the dark world), but I don't think it's JUST Gaster. I think there's a lot of little pieces intersecting to make up the grander story here.
@Drotdog
@Drotdog 2 жыл бұрын
Dess could have stumbled upon Gaster’s bunker with Kris and after seeing inside they tried to escape but only Kris could, perhaps giving Gaster a reason to replace Kris’ soul with ours. I think the bunker is related to everything, Gaster, Dess’ disappearance, our soul being in Kris, the dark worlds, and all that jazz, maybe even to the knight and the Titans from the roaring.
@squeaks5677
@squeaks5677 2 жыл бұрын
*Anything slightly abnormal happens.* Entire Deltarune fanbase: it can only be the blob man.
@curiouspotato8113
@curiouspotato8113 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drotdog I don't think gaster was the one who replaced kris's soul with ours, because at the end of choosing our vessel, the uppercase text was about to say something then it suddenly cut to black and this time a *lowercase* text informed us that our vessel will be discarded. So if we assume that gaster speak in uppercase then the lowercase is a different entity that interpreted gaster when he was about to give us the vessel and then transferred our soul to kris. Maybe it's chara the narrator or maybe something else.
@cin2110
@cin2110 2 жыл бұрын
@@curiouspotato8113 Yep it's someone else text ids tell the same story first guy you talk while making your character has id 666 and the one that discard has the id 2
@sylvelouise8388
@sylvelouise8388 2 жыл бұрын
I personnally interpreted Spamton as brainwashed in some way, and the "voice talking through him" as his true self trying to reach out. It seems like when Spamton speaks in lower case, it's his true self. Plus, there are no glitches and hyperlinks in his lower case dialogues, meaning his brainwash might just be a glich or corruption (Ralsei even describes him as a corrupted program). At least, that's how I interpret it all.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason I think the "can you hear me" line isn't him is that he speaks as though it is a different person, and it's consistent with the unused text all the way from chapter 1. I DO think in the case of the knight dialogue it was him freaking out, though. Definitely see why some would interpret it as his true self, but the similarities to the unused text seem like a super conscious move on Toby's fault, especially since he added more unused text of a similar nature.
@Topunito
@Topunito 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked Him treating it like a different person could just be his insanity, but it's definitely interesting that it's similar to the unused text. I never thought I'd be connecting Dess to Spamton though, lol.
@ChaosEnthusiast
@ChaosEnthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
@@Topunito lol
@watchtower5803
@watchtower5803 2 жыл бұрын
Addition to this theory: Dess is the Knight. Trapped in the dark world, they've been opening fountains in the hope of someone stumbling in. This explains why fountains are just appearing in random locations, such as the library and school, as opposed to in the forest where no-one would find it. It also explains how fountains can be opened in the same room as Berdly and Noelle without them ever seeing them (unless we consider the Knight hides in the large closet and leaves under the cover of the fountain mist). Furthermore, the Queen takes immediate interest in Noelle as her key to opening fountains despite knowing any Lightener can do it and having Berdly ever so keen to help. In the car trip, she specifically says that she believes Noelle is strong (which is true), but she has no reason to believe this. Now consider that the Queen has seen Dess as the Knight, seen her abilities to open a fountain, and hence is certain Noelle, the sister, could do the same. There's only one small hole I can see in this theory, and that's why can't Dess leave the dark world by closing a fountain. It is possible however that only Kris can close fountains, possibly being the importance of having a human soul. Despite the Legend eluding to three heroes closing fountains, Ralsei doesn't even approach the fountain in Chapter 1, and Kris does it completely alone in Chapter 2 meaning Susie likely doesn't contribute. Finally, going back to The Legend, possibly Dess opened the first Dark Fountain in Castle Town. Hence, banishing Angel's Heaven, is referring to destroying the world made by an 'angle', a believed deceased girl who has created a world based on her imagination. This also explains Ralsei. He exists only knowing his role is to help a hero in closing fountains. This also explains why Ralsei looks like Asriel - Dess was their friend and made Ralsei in their image. There is also a lot of potential for a strong narrative here. It explains the side-bosses, who Dess would have made in her image. Jevil was made first, feeling free in an imaginary world of his creation, but later after opening the second fountain, she now feels trapped, and hence makes Spamton who desperately tries to break free. Lastly, it means that the story will culminate in letting go of this imaginary world and all the beloved friends we have made, in order to save someone very 'deer' to the characters.
@Mr.Yahoo_
@Mr.Yahoo_ 2 жыл бұрын
Intereting theory but at "knowing any lightner can do it". I dont think she actually knows, she didn't even know what the fountains could cause, she only thought any lightner could do it because of what she saw in that video loop
@watchtower5803
@watchtower5803 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Yahoo_ Regardless, she knows it requires Determination and has seen it happen and met the Knight. If she knew the Knight was human she would have targeted Kris. She even truced with us but her only interest in using us was to find Noelle. This obsession is clear; she gave Noelle the pin and everything, she had both Berdly and Kris as attentive candidates, and yet Noelle is beyond everything. Maybe there is some alternate reason for this obsession, but its definitely not clear. Also, note how Ralsei doesn't freak out until Berdly attempts to open a fountain. For some reason Ralsei is either extremely knowledgeable or making up lies, but the fact that he genuinely thinks Berdly has the potential is a key indicator the Queen was right.
@watchtower5803
@watchtower5803 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Yahoo_ Also sorry for the essay. Late night here and I am to tired to refine my points.
@boreaseasanimationchannel7573
@boreaseasanimationchannel7573 2 жыл бұрын
Did you guys notice the cracks at the beginning of the ch2's dark fountain? Maybe it's because when noelle came, she fought her way to Queen but blacked out, that's when our characters came and saw noelle kneeling just like in snowgrave route, and then Queen kidnaps her. The guys from the beginning would make sense if they were afraid of noelle and they may have addressed her as "she" or "her" though those npcs are cryptic so I cannot tell for certain.
@53ra
@53ra Жыл бұрын
Maybe Kris and Dess entered a dark world together when they were younger, maybe in a certain bunker? Kris was able to get out because of their soul, but that left Dess trapped inside the dark world?
@ziongamer6905
@ziongamer6905 2 жыл бұрын
I could see that maybe Kris first experienced the dark world through Dess? Maybe something went wrong and Dess helped Kris escape which is why they both initially feared the Ch. 1’s dark world in the closet and have some issues with the red bunker. Perhaps Kris is opening these Dark world to attempt to find Dess and maybe help the others get a clue for where she could have gone?? Ps. Kingdom Hearts content from you sounds veryyyy tempting to watch
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Kingdom Hearts and Sonic are my two big fandoms before Undertale, so there's a LOT I could talk about. But honestly, I think that makes a lot of sense. I genuinely do think Kris' connection to the dark worlds began w/ the bunker.
@ThatGamingKid45
@ThatGamingKid45 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking further on this theory and have a minor thing to add, what if Asriel was there in some part? Maybe he wasn’t there when the bunker incident took place, but probably took Kris to the Diner to calm them down. Maybe that’s why Kris gets so worked up when they drink the hot chocolate in chapter 1. “You drank the hot chocolate. It tastes wonderful. Your throat tightened…” It’s most likely just referencing the fact Kris hasn’t been there in a while, that they used to go with Asriel, and they really miss him. Though, I’ve been thinking it could also be a subtle reference to Dess’ disappearance, if this theory proves to be correct.
@ziongamer6905
@ziongamer6905 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatGamingKid45 Heck, it absolutely could be both! Maybe Azzy's last time getting hot coco with Kris was after whatever happened with Dess. He probably wanted to help them relax after the situation. To theory craft even MORE maybe Dess stayed back to prevent the Titans from escaping and causing the roaring?
@thenickstrikebetter
@thenickstrikebetter 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Dess ends up being the knight somehow.
@ggomlet6519
@ggomlet6519 2 жыл бұрын
Spamton is an interesting fellow, a peculiar chap, a strange jackanape, an interesting young man, a strange individual, and quite possibly even a funny little guy
@bruhmoment8419
@bruhmoment8419 Күн бұрын
An odd bloke, a questionable lad
@theshipyard8798
@theshipyard8798 2 жыл бұрын
Relating to the Bunker, I had a theory that ties several things together. Asgore and Toriel's divorce, Asgore stepping down from Police Chief, The Festival, The Bunker, Kris' Trauma surrounding the Bunker, and Dess' disappearance. This is my theory: The festival is a major event in town. Asgore and the rest of the Police Force provided security. Toriel took Kris and Asriel there, and the Hollidays were there too. Somehow Kris and Dess get separated from the others. They find the bunker and something happens. Kris is left traumatized and Dess is nowhere to be found. Asgore is blamed by the Hollidays for Dess going missing under his watch, and Toriel is pissed because 'something could have happened to Kris too'. Asgore steps down from the Police force and Toriel divorces him. No one believes Kris about the Bunker as seen in Chapter 2 when you go there with Susie
@WeatherReportsHat
@WeatherReportsHat 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about Dess speaking through Spamton, as the other time he goes staticy is when he mentions Mike, and it seems clear he's the only person so far in the series who knows Mike. However, I do agree with the rest of this theory, that Dess likey went missing, is maybe even presumed dead, and is likely trapped somewhere.
@tkdems
@tkdems 2 жыл бұрын
Noelle and Kris have 1 thing in common that's HUGE. They're both "missing" (put in quote bc it's unknown where Dess is) their siblings and are hurting because they were so connected to them/looked up to them. I don't know where I'm going with this, but I think it's key to something.
@gnateb6048
@gnateb6048 2 жыл бұрын
Noelle and Kris are essentially siblings in a whole lot of ways. They're closer than basically any 2 other characters in the game. It's a dynamic I feel will be really important as the chapters go on
@bumbabees
@bumbabees Ай бұрын
noelle and kris are pretty similar in ways i hadnt realized when I first played this game. their siblings are gone, their dads arent really around, (despite wanting to be) and theyre stuck at home with their overbearing mothers. i think it means something too. theres no way it doesnt.
@X_Lolly_Z
@X_Lolly_Z 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing I wanna note is that Noelle is specifically involved with the Snowgrave route of the game, freezing monsters to their death. She specifically possesses snow rings even before she was on our team, and every time she became “stronger”, she wears new rings which possess stronger ice/snow related powers. Especially considering the secret dialogue of the iceshock attack at the light world around the end of Snowgrave. *I also realized just now that DT chapter two was released 3 months before December*
@gman2c371
@gman2c371 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late but i have a pretty simple theory, i think that the bunker was the first dark world portal. Kris and Dess (I doubt Asriel or Noelle were there, Kris seems to be the only person with a reaction to the bunker), being curious children, went to go check out the bunker. As they opened the door, they saw the ominus darkness like what we saw in the closet. Dess, as the older child there, ventured in, while Kris stayed behind. As Dess got confused about the seemingly infinite space inside the bunker, she decided to go back. The doors of the bunker then slammed shut, like the closet door, and Dess falls into the Dark World. Since the bunker is such a dark and gloomy place, it's dark world is likely even gloomier, leaving Dess trapped in the darkness. This would explain the "Is anybody out there?" hidden lines (Though I'm not sure about the 'scratching part'). Kris, seeing their friend get trapped in the bunker, calls to undyne and asgore. When they open the door, they only see the inside of the bunker. An investigation begins, Asgore and Rudy explore the bunker, and Noelle is brought to stand by, feeling scared.. Rudy might have either gotten sick from the chemicals inside the bunker, or an strong snowstorm prevented the search's effectiveness, leading Asgore to call of the search. I personally believe it is the ladder, while a snowstorm wouldn't explain Rudy's illness (other than pneumonia ), it would explain Noelle's obsession with the cold. The Mayor gets infuriated with Asgore, firing him from the police. This would also explain Kris's hesitation to enter the closet, they step back, scared. Then after Kris enters the dark world multiple times throughout chapter 1 and 2, they realize that the portals can be crossed safely, and that Dess could maybe be saved. This leads to them ripping out their soul and creating a new portal, likely being pushed to do so by Susie after her idea to bring the dark world inhabitants to the light world. Kris would be even more motivated to find Dess after chapter 2 as well, after exploring the dark world with Noelle. The small comments about Dess that Noelle makes were probably also influencing Kris's decision to open another portal. They care about Noelle, and finding Dess would make her happy, make Rudy happy, and maybe also bring Asgore back to the police. sheesh that took a while, thanks for reading, and great video! (somebody please fact check me i just finished deltarune 2 days ago)
@IamNCortex
@IamNCortex 2 жыл бұрын
I think Dess fell into a Dark World and Kris and the gang saw it happening but didnt realise at the time what happened, police did not understand either, but when Kris saw the dark world himself he realised everything. We can attempt to warn Undyne about it in both Chapter 1 and 2, Kris even points out that someone can fall into it, but Undyne doesnt believe it. At the end of Chapter 2 Kris slices the tires and Toriel calls the police, Kris opens the door and opens the dark world. I believe Kris did it so police could fall into the dark would and see what is going on themselfs. Chapter 4 and 5 will possible be about saving Dess if Kris's plan doesnt fail.
@markdagger9725
@markdagger9725 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe she lost in a snowstorm, that is why Noelle is Kinda afraid of ice things and why is her stronger power and snowstorm type that kills people, the fact that the song "Lost Girl" calls like that is very curious, and maybe when she dissapear they thought she died and the bunker is like her tombstone, perhaps she is in there or she was in the dark world all the time. What it's sure is that someone is missing, Dess, Gaster inclusive the real Kris, maybe we would have the answers in the next chapter, maybe not....
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
The cold motifs could have a lot of meanings! Some do think Dess got lost in a snowstorm or drowned in the lake. These are possibilities, but a big reason I think Dess is still alive and merely lost is the "you're lucky Dess isn't here" line from Noelle. That'd be a rather odd thing to say if she was confirmed dead.
@FiSH-iSH
@FiSH-iSH 2 жыл бұрын
perhaps she drowned in the lake and the song coming from the sea that onion mentions is dess singing the credits song
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
@@FiSH-iSH While that's certainly a possibility, I feel like Dess searching her sister's (likely) name as well as her being so light about Dess ("You're lucky that Dess isn't here") suggests Dess is alive and just MIA.
@darkisvara266
@darkisvara266 2 жыл бұрын
I think that was shyren,you can see she rest her throat in hospital.
@EMShelley
@EMShelley 2 жыл бұрын
With it being hinted that Asgore has a thing for Noelle's dad, Rudy, and may have even had an affair with him in the Undertale universe (going off his dialog from the unreleased winter alarm clock on the official website), I kinda wonder if his infidelity led to him losing his job, wife, and even possibly whatever happened to Dess and Kris.
@fluffynator6222
@fluffynator6222 2 жыл бұрын
You mean Rudy and Asgore... Had an affair? My god... XD
@powerofthec5908
@powerofthec5908 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see that being hinted anywhere to be honest I think youre reading too much into this.
@abcdef-ms9mb
@abcdef-ms9mb 2 жыл бұрын
That really doesn't seem to be the case. The alarm clock dialogue only shows that Asgore enjoyed coming to the Holidays' home, and that Rudy and him were pals from Hotland University, and that Rudy passed away for some reason (while Noelle and Dess didn't). Nothing as far as I've seen hinted at something weird like that.
@EMShelley
@EMShelley 2 жыл бұрын
idk. I find it kinda odd that he'd get Rudy roses while he's in the hospital, and just the way he talks in the winter clock dialog about him and mentions the mistletoe. I might be reading too much into it, but I always thought that Toriel's absolute hate him was somewhat uncalled for, since he's just doing what he can to free everyone (killing the humans). An affair would make her hate make a lot more sense.
@kromer9711
@kromer9711 2 жыл бұрын
@@EMShelley he gives flowers to alphys to tho so i think this is just something he does to be nice
@genexican9214
@genexican9214 2 жыл бұрын
I like the theory that the voice calling out into darkness/through Spamton is your creation that was cast aside at the beginning of Chapter 1. Whether that's the case or not, Toby's definitely setting things up regarding Dess and Noelle, so I can't wait to see where it goes.
@Messier__
@Messier__ 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda hope the bunker is an abandoned meat factory/storage room so we can draw parallels to the sound Test room.
@kazutokirigaya8433
@kazutokirigaya8433 2 жыл бұрын
If you observe the ring you steal. You see the question is someone in it? when inspecting it on a unfortunate route. For some reason no one seems to have noticed this. That might be where a certain someone is
@PrinceEomer8102
@PrinceEomer8102 2 жыл бұрын
I love some of these comments. Goes to show how much a community can pick apart all the details and theorize if they truly care about it
@gensationaldraws
@gensationaldraws 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently the Japanese dialogue moreso aligns with Asriel's speech patterns. Which is .. pretty interesting.
@leedlelel2373
@leedlelel2373 2 жыл бұрын
whhHHHAAAAATTTT?!?!?! I give up, this is all just too confusing
@The_Nutdealer
@The_Nutdealer 2 жыл бұрын
cool video, I agree with pretty much all of it lol I also want to bring up how Dess’s name gives no reaction if you enter it in the vessel creator, unlike most of the other major Lightners, which could also mean she’s in the Dark World since none of the characters there get responses either. Maybe just a coincidence but still
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh, that's actually a really neat observation! It would keep things consistent, and would be super smart if that's the case on Toby's part.
@sheogorath6834
@sheogorath6834 2 жыл бұрын
But isn't it just Kris, Susie and Noelle's name giving a reaction?
@The_Nutdealer
@The_Nutdealer 2 жыл бұрын
Naming yourself Kris, Susie, or Noelle gives you the “YOU ARE ABOUT TO MEET SOMEONE VERY, VERY WONDERFUL” line Naming yourself Berdly, Toriel, Asgore, Asriel, Sans, Papyrus, Undyne, Alphys, Rudy, Gerson, Catty, Catti, Bratty, Jockington, or QC will give you the “HOW INTERESTING” line And naming the vessel any of them gives you the “AN INTERESTING COINCIDENCE” line So Noelle and Rudy are here, but Dess/December isn’t which sticks out to me (technically Ms. Holiday isn’t either but I think that’s because her name hasn’t been revealed yet)
@TigerSwipes
@TigerSwipes 2 жыл бұрын
I always found it weird how Noelles reactions to Spamton related things are always like... "Feels familiar" or something along those lines?
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 2 жыл бұрын
The idea makes sense. If you talk to the Wet-Nose Bandits, they say they: "(We were getting ready to sneak into that big house over the holidays...)" "When we were attacked from the shadows, by something MERCILESS!" (Fearing for our lives, we all ran right into Officer Undyne's warm, loving arms...)".... A big house? During the holidays? Noelle's family seems rich, so she'd have a big house & nobody else has a "big house". So maybe the thing from the shadows has a connection to the Holiday family & was nearby to attack? Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@thomaslecomte1570
@thomaslecomte1570 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize Dess’s disappearance could be linked to he Dreemurr’s divorce and the credit song
@zgmfx-09a
@zgmfx-09a 2 жыл бұрын
Your voice activated some neurons in my brain and idk why but for some reason I feel like I met you in a past life or something
@jam-etc
@jam-etc Жыл бұрын
sorry to leave all these comments but it's been absolutely surreal to hear these theories and ideas I've had myself, echoed by someone else, on this channel. Not a single other channel has posited the sort of theories and connected the dots that I see on this channel, it's wild
@dayvancubensis
@dayvancubensis 2 жыл бұрын
Just popping by to say that your voice acting for those hidden lines was good!
@darkhoodorderofgray6354
@darkhoodorderofgray6354 2 жыл бұрын
You know the funny thing is on the end of that dialogue when you ask him about being friends he'll say but if he was calling for help I think he was calling for you and of course he looks at you and most people probably assume it's at the player character Kris. I wonder if he's looking less at the player character that you use in the game and more like Monika he's looking directly at the player.
@charmygamer
@charmygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Unless KRIS did something bad to DESS in the bunker and had a trauma... And we are their alter ego and Asriel went to university to escape what happened to DESS but Noelle isn't there with the three of them when in the bunker... So she thinks that DESS is just missing...
@lampara7873
@lampara7873 2 жыл бұрын
Man all these theories got me hyped for the other chapters to come out To solve this mistery.
@gameformerp8565
@gameformerp8565 2 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think Dess is Deltarune's Gaster. We only find hints of both of them and they both are connected to main characters we interact with including possible family members.
@pustota7254
@pustota7254 Жыл бұрын
This is just stupid.
@SuperMario.
@SuperMario. 2 жыл бұрын
"HUH??? WHAT?? NO, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING JUST NOW!!! ... BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE TALKING TO YOU."
@mendeta07
@mendeta07 2 жыл бұрын
God i hope chapter 7 takes place in the bunker I mean it has to, right? Wait What if the bunker is were kris and the player became connected? What if kris’s trauma with the bunker only happened recently
@HSvideoSims3
@HSvideoSims3 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Dess is dead. Mainly because we don't see her gravestone anywhere amongst the other graves, nor even an unmarked on. Being that she is the Mayor's daughter, it would be quite weird for the 'dead daughter' of the Mayor to not have her own gravestone. Not to mention that the Holiday family appears to be quite wealthy or of upper class, based on the fancy gates that Noelle is seen standing before in Chapter 1, so it wouldn't make sense they couldn't afford a gravestone should Dess be deceased. There's also the fact that, if you go down to those weird bunker doors south of the office (Post-Cyber World) in Chapter 2, you get a cutscene between Snowdrake and Monster Kid. They mention something along the lines of how Kris was spooked or frightened out of their minds and was seen fleeing away from the bunker, to which Snowdrake remarks about 'don't be a weenie like Kris'. There's also the fact that Noelle mentions how she, Kris, Asriel, and Dess all used to explore a lot together in their childhood in the forest by the church quite often. Adding what Noelle mentions how she got into scary movies and occult-like stuff (Catti at the diner mentions Noelle once asking her about spells/curses/etc) because of Dess, it's safe to assume that the group loved looking into mysteries and strange things around town as kids. Taking all these little details, what I like to believe is that Kris and Dess both went to the bunker by the forest to investigate, probably with Noelle accompanying them too. They probably found the doors open at that time, and Dess--being the oldest in their group--decides to go into the bunker first to ensure it was safe for the Kris/Noelle to go in with her. Without any warning, the doors slam shut behind Dess where she ends up disappearing to the Dark World. Kris and Noelle both panic, trying to get the door open, but to no avail. Eventually the two end up trying to report the incident to the Chief of Police, which is Asgore at the time. However, Asgore's search is futile as they are unable to find Dess or any traces of her ever leaving the town. The Mayor, furious and distraught over the loss of her daughter, ends up firing Asgore from his position, leaving Kris' family to struggle with bills (you find out that Kris' family is indebt from having a phone call with Toriel before you and Susie head to the library together). The finances puts a strain on Kris' family, and eventually the parents divorced. Noelle is traumatized from having to lose her sister in such a strange incident that she ends up distancing herself from Kris almost entirely, leaving Kris to rely heavily on Asriel for any sort of emotional support. So not only did Kris lose two of their childhood friends, but also felt responsible for divorce between their parents as well, which is probably their main motivation for ripping open a fountain in their own home at the end of Chapter 2 in the first place. Probably thinking that if they find Dess, everything could be fixed. I mean, they learned from Queen that any Lightner can rip open a fountain as long as they had the willpower and determination to.
@philguer4802
@philguer4802 2 жыл бұрын
Spamton second voice is just whats left of his sanity speaking. This is why it apologize when he tries to tell kris about the knight. It'd be strange if toby left no hint to show spamton caught a virus, and its the only one we got. Plus,there is no reason why Dess could speak trough Spamton. But I'm now almost convinced Dess is indeed the voice in the code.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, unlike other dialogue, he treats that voice like it's a second person. "I think they're talking to you." It seems like in that case it was someone else's voice (and it fits with the cut text).
@philguer4802
@philguer4802 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorked It's true, but ,altough is is coherent with your theory,it also is coherent with mine. After all, Spamton and his virus might as well be two different person sharing a body,not to mention virus!Spamton isn't coherent,pretending not to hear the voice but saying it was talking to kris anyway. And for the fact it correspond perfectly with the line in the code, well, it's not strange to imagine toby fox is just making a parallel ;i think this line was already present in Undertale when Flowey speak in echo flower as Toriel. And i personnaly find it a bit on-the-nose;what's even the point of making these lines secret? On the other hand,if we assume your theory is correct,then the facts i mentionned previously just do not fit at all. I mean,even if Spamton had no virus,it would still feel strange for Noelle to randomly speak trough him. So knowing there is an alternative explanation, both canon and parsimonious ,to the strongest evidence supporting the theory,I don't feel convinced despite the fact I accept the premise of Dess being the voice in the code.
@Topunito
@Topunito 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to tie Gaster into everything, but since I'm pretty sure a slowed down version of mus_smile plays in the "bunker" area, and there's this stuff about it being so dark... yeah, I can't help but think about him
@FrNSICs
@FrNSICs 2 жыл бұрын
yes!!!!! Im so glad someone else thinks it's dess singing don't forget!!! it would make so much sense if that was the case
@ironici
@ironici 2 жыл бұрын
That text is news to me. We do hear you, whoever you are!
@fullsun2236
@fullsun2236 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this exact same thing all this time and finally someone put it into words! I didn't connect it to the voice in the code tho but it does make a lot of sense. Super cool theory, keep it up!
@SeaSparklesLP
@SeaSparklesLP 2 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt this would happen, but I think it would be really interesting if Dess was trapped and corrupted like Jevil and Spamton. She would want to escape, and that could make her want to take a deal from the mysterious voice on the phone.
@smothmoongazer
@smothmoongazer 2 жыл бұрын
toby wouldn't leave scrapped dialogue with that much lore in the files without expecting the fans to find it, and deltarune chapter 1's initial presentation lends to the game being very meta with some of its clues. those definitely mean something
@unhappy_keiko1281
@unhappy_keiko1281 4 ай бұрын
I'm so sad we never got to see Noelle interacting more with Spamton. They probably would have a funny dynamic based on Noelle's liking on scary stuff and Spamton's creepy nature and how they're related because of the Spamton Sweepstakes event lol
@spootymaniacs
@spootymaniacs 2 жыл бұрын
Do you remember, 25th of December
@bestmultieditor
@bestmultieditor 2 жыл бұрын
I believe another piece of evidence for the "dess is missing theory" besides the calendar in Noelle's room is the wardrobe next to it. When examining it in a normal run through chapter 2, Susie will comment on how she has never seen Noelle wear anything like what is seen in the wardrobe. I think this supports the idea that Noelle is searching for her sister who went missing by looking up what she last saw her sister wearing before her disappearance. Maybe I'm just looking too much into it as well
@calicobunny
@calicobunny 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t believe this at all but the fact the theme is called lost girl and isn’t always played with noelle is very interesting! It does tie in with the person in the notes a lot!
@calicobunny
@calicobunny 2 жыл бұрын
actually! i lied i giga believe this. i think what happned was they were playing make believe, noelle did a fake spell (which became real in the dark world) and december became lost. she might be in cattys house cause of the scratching and cause that one cat girl is the one who taught her spells
@KyleGK01
@KyleGK01 Жыл бұрын
The sweepstakes helps this theory of dess in the dark world
@lukematzner7996
@lukematzner7996 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, that angel doll in the DadMs hospital room does say that it was made by the two girls in youth group. And youth group is for much older kids, or else it would be Sunday school. So It’s hard to believe little young Noelle was in youth group before that spelling bee if she broke down because oh her sister’s disappearance. And still, Noelle never mention how causally Noelle brings up Dess so often without any emotion baggage to it if she really disappeared. And that is all ignoring that Dess could just be gone at college like Asriel is.
@TheCJBrine
@TheCJBrine 2 жыл бұрын
Noelle’s father said she and Dess made the doll. It’s likely they just let younger kids come, or the older kids just brought their younger siblings since Asriel and Kris made one in youth group too (but spent too much time on the wings). It’s possible Noelle mentions Dess like that due to having hope she’s okay and that she could come back, not wanting to be too sad or anything.
@PuddleOfCats
@PuddleOfCats 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this theory completely, though if Dess is trapped in the bunker and speaking through the code how is she not dying of starving? Does being a semi-ethereal code being save her from hunger and other needs?
@Mr.Yahoo_
@Mr.Yahoo_ 2 жыл бұрын
Its a game, why does food matter at this point? Has the same vibe as asking "where does she go to the bathroom?"
@Topunito
@Topunito 2 жыл бұрын
The bunker may not be a normal place. And I don't just mean there's weird stuff in there, it might literally have different physical properties- though maybe that's just the part of me that won't stop thinking about Gaster speaking
@clementineshamaney5137
@clementineshamaney5137 2 жыл бұрын
I think Dess being trapped in the dark world makes a lot of sense and that she's definitely the Knight or related to the Knight in some way.
@sweetmoonlight9181
@sweetmoonlight9181 2 жыл бұрын
I think dess and asriel going to college is connected, like lets say asriel never went to college and instead made it his mission to go to dark worlds to try and rescue dess because lets say they were the last lightners to venture in the dark world (past lightners have been mentioned so it mightve been asriel and dess) but yeah thats about all i gotd to say
@thatoneundertalefanatic
@thatoneundertalefanatic 2 жыл бұрын
There's something i was thinking,if all the chapters gave you the choice to do a route similar to snowgrave route/weird route and if in each chapter,you manipulated one menber of your team,i think it would be an interesting idea for susie to be immune to the player's control,you see,in undertale and deltarune,there's characters i like to call "exceptions to the rule". Let's start with more generic examples,like: Sans:well,sans doesn't remember previous timelines like many believe,if so, he would remember flowey's previous geno routes,when he clearly don't,considering that when we went to grillby's with sans in the pacifist route,and he mentioned a talking flower that gave advices to papyrus,he actually thought it was someone using a echo flower to prank his brother,but if he remembered flowey,he would have have eventually reached the conclusion it was flowey,and killed him when noone was seeing,but he knows a rather unusual amount of things about timelines and frisk powers,the only ones who would know more about it would be flowey/asriel and (probably) chara. Now let's talk about a deltarune character,when it comes to "exceptions to the rule",many people would think about spamton and jevil,but I'm gonna give a different example: Ralsei:now,i know most people think he's just a sweet little goat boi,that has no friends and don't know how to socialize (wich i highly doubt tbh)but he said he once had subjects and if that is true,he NEEDED to know how to do that,besides he has a high amount of knowledge for someone sweet and innocent,like,in chapter 2,how did he know where we would have to go to bring the darkners back to the dark world,after all he never left the town before,right?how did he know kris and susie before they even got to the dark world anyway?before someone says that's because he's the prince,(wich i don't believe either)that simply doesn't make sense. Now let's talk about why susie would fit in that group,while it may sound like pure speculation,it really marked me the way she said: "your choices don't matter".while she changed her ways throughout the game,she's still the same person,we can see that when we are about to enter the other dark world,they give us the option to say we want to enter the dark world,or to say that we can study at home,but it wouldn't matter because we went there anyway,i don't think that's just pure plot. While the others may easily be manipulated because Ralsei thinks we are the hero of the prophecy and noelle thinks it's all just a dream.susie wouldn't be manipulated because she's still independent and doesn't need us to make choices for her,besides i don't think susie gives a damn about the prophecy and being hero,i think she just wants to hang out with ralsei,kris and lancer,after all she never had a friend before.when something's wrong with kris, she seems to notice it quickly, like after the fight against spamton neo,when kris says he's fine she knew he was lying. (Anyways,sorry for the long text,i know it has nothing to do with the video,but i needed to talk about it somewhere.)
@curllum
@curllum 2 жыл бұрын
I have a small theory, chapter 3 - 5 are going to come out together, why not the last 2 chapters? I think it could be because the last 2 chapters would be the longest, and take during the roaring. During that, we could see dess’s return
@1yellowfella
@1yellowfella Жыл бұрын
oh my god... what if don't forget was a lullaby that mayor used to sing for dess?
@link_team3855
@link_team3855 2 жыл бұрын
that same text is in undertale i think. something simalar occurs anyway. theres also what flowey says as toriel in some echo flowers.
@lokiruiz2246
@lokiruiz2246 2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory: So basicly. I think. What happened with the bunker and kris was that asriel kris dess and noelle was hanging out by it. Until dess was dared to go in during a truth or dare game. Asriel decided to play a sick prank due to most likely being a young teen at the time. Asriel pushed dess in and closed the doors. Noelle was waiting for them back at the spot where they were playing along with kris waiting too. And the door was locked. So asriel had no choice other then to lie that dess had to go home or wanted to go home for some reason or another. This explains why ralsei acts odd during the 2nd chapter where noelle is included and this seems to be why noelle has no answer to why dess never came home. But this is just my theory.
@lokiruiz2246
@lokiruiz2246 2 жыл бұрын
Follow up: Kris might have heard the cries of dess and didn't realize how she got in there and wasn't able to save her. Which is why kris has trauma about the bunker.
@kazokazoos8066
@kazokazoos8066 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that the "scratching" in the hidden text refers to mus.smile. So I think the one speaking could either be gaster himself or somebody that could've possibly met the same fate as gaster?
@papayadoodlez9994
@papayadoodlez9994 2 жыл бұрын
I had a theory that Rudy and Asgore had an affair abd Dess found out about it. This sounds more like an au but it made more sense in my mind
@josephsouther9874
@josephsouther9874 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for a reference to Jrue Holiday
@jasonllirmwl1990
@jasonllirmwl1990 2 жыл бұрын
Lol when I first heard Dess's name I thought it was just a reference to ness and Noelle saying that Dess hit Kris with a whiffle ball bat
@venistoralishi3916
@venistoralishi3916 2 жыл бұрын
We know that Kris is probably not the Knight, and looking at the EGG secret, most possibly the Knight is Gaster. So he needs a knife and DT to open the fountains. But where G can get DT from? What if there is a DT Extractor in the bunker? Then Dess could have lost DT and got in the void with Gaster. So both of them are actually at the same place and that explains why Dess can hear scratching and where did Gaster get DT from to open fountains. Further more void would explain why there is a secret Dess message in Undertale, because she doesn't exist. She is everywhere in time and space. More than that: considering the deltarune timeline being the AT where Chara loaded with our soul and killed humanity, freeing the monsterkind, we can actually say that DT extractor is the same one from UT. Because IT IS Undertale. The last one thing to mention is Gaster cannot do things completely by himself, because he is mainly still in the void, but heck if Sans is not here. Sans just got in the town as well as in Undertale. But he is the only one connected to G and the only one who has the possibility to contant with Gaster himself. That's how Sans becomes the connector between Gaster in void and Gaster the knight. And what does he use to bring back Gaster? Broken machine. Or I am just quite stupid and trying to seek the truth somewhere where it doesn't exist. I need to stop
@johnballard7775
@johnballard7775 10 ай бұрын
the scratching is just sans djing in the abyss
@nuclearjello2243
@nuclearjello2243 2 жыл бұрын
My personal theory is that the hidden text is from Kris's original soul, but I agree with the rest of the video.
@jaralara6429
@jaralara6429 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the idea that the line in Spamton's shop is Noelle speaking through Spamton. To take it a step further, maybe Noelle is kidnapped by Spamton's puppet master and she briefly took control of Spamton?
@treeboy7282
@treeboy7282 2 жыл бұрын
I think Rudy holiday will play a big part in the future chapters as he has his own unique voice sound effect and laugh. No other characters in the light world, apart from Noelle, Berdly and the undertale characters have their own unique voice. Also, the knight has followed a straight path so far from the school to the library, next would be the hospital.
@cathulhu5470
@cathulhu5470 2 жыл бұрын
DUDE WHAT IF DESS WAS BEHIND EVERY EVENT IN THE SERIES
@hackedskull
@hackedskull 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I keep saying that it's December's song to Noelle "there's a light inside your soul that's still shining in the COLD" I find it really interesting that the "COLD" is mentioned in the song, it is really fitting with Noelle and Dess "the promise in our hearts "don't forget, I'm with you in the dark"" we know that Noelle is blocking out violent and traumatic memories from Snowgrave Route when we first see Noelle in Darkworld her surroundings are destroyed and little plug guys are freaked out by "her" at first I thought they're taking about the Queen and her wires but... looking at the destruction around Noelle... I don't think the wires did that I think Noelle did that's why the Queen insists that Noelle is strong, Noelle probably used Snowgrave to defend herself and blocked out that memory where was I going with this? right Dess... it's possible that Noelle is coping the same way with December's disappearance/death, she witnessed her "death" and blocked out that painful memory and it's a song from Dess to Noelle to remember her painful truth of loss, possible promise and reminder that she's with her in the dark
@delfinoluigi67
@delfinoluigi67 2 жыл бұрын
DESS is THE KNIGHT
@RedTHedge
@RedTHedge 2 жыл бұрын
Since Ralsei describes Spamton as a "corrupted program", I believe the speaking is actually just from Spamton's "sane-self". I mean, why would Dess even be speaking through Spamton? And about the "Bunker Theory", maybe that's how Kris got the SOUL?
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
It's the fact that he spoke about the person as if it was someone separate from him, and the similarities to the unused text.
@bananadaily2317
@bananadaily2317 2 жыл бұрын
imagine we get chapter 3,4,5 in december
@bhabhapadmanabhan
@bhabhapadmanabhan 2 жыл бұрын
I think dess being tapped in the bunker might be true
@zane1790
@zane1790 2 жыл бұрын
shes at my house being given some juice :)
@someburntcereal10
@someburntcereal10 2 жыл бұрын
Dess is somewhere, but I have a theory, she might appear in Chapter 3. Or, a different chapter.
@leikendoch3047
@leikendoch3047 2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory. What happen if you use the ShadowCristal in the búnker? Maybe we have more details about Dess. Or the past.
@Mr.Yahoo_
@Mr.Yahoo_ 2 жыл бұрын
There is no ShadowCristal in the ligh world
@clover2660
@clover2660 10 ай бұрын
This is sort of an old video, but I would like to point out the following. Dess Holiday seems to realize that her struggles towards freedom are futile. Now we must inspect this word right here, this "freedom." It is a recurring theme in Deltarune; Jevil is convinced that he is the only free one, when he is actually a prisoner, Spamton is aware of his lack of freedom and actively works against it through attempting to take Kris' SOUL and become "free", and Kris is also aware of their own lack of freedom and they on multiple occasions attempt to free themselves, even if only temporarily, by tearing out their SOUL (to which we, the players, are bound to and forced to control, therefore controlling Kris). My theory is that Dess will be the last or second-to-last secret boss. As the chapters go on, further dialogue will appear in the code, showing her slowly cracking as she realizes she is truly trapped forever. The Bunker is surely plot-important, and is likely to contain a Dark World, so it is possible that this will be the Chapter 6/Chapter 7 Dark World in which we will finally find Dess again and we will have to convince her that there is a way out (sealing the Fountain with Kris' SOUL) in order to rescue her from her imprisonment, much like we (somewhat) rescued the previous secret bosses.
@chef_dude
@chef_dude 2 жыл бұрын
what if it was kris? that's a hot idea
@RTM_random
@RTM_random 2 жыл бұрын
Reject december return to [big shot] Also have a n-ice day
@ashemcintyre1814
@ashemcintyre1814 2 жыл бұрын
what if the locked door in the school is where Dess is?
@XCATX25
@XCATX25 2 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, this theory is... very plausible actually. The part where Dess is stuck in the dark world and kris escaped... and maybe that's when the heart shaped object took over Kris life. Kris was already in the dark world after all, as it's clear by the save file with their name at the beginning of the game, and you can save only in the dark world... And that's clearly an explicit choice by Toby, since he is a good designer and some moments in the real world actually need a save point to break up the pacing, but he avoided putting them in anyway...
@thewallisgone
@thewallisgone 2 жыл бұрын
Theory: What if somehow, dess holiday got removed from deltarune itself, like gaster got removed from undertale. its far fetched, but there is a hidden string of dialoug in the files, whom of which i think belongs to dess.
@Shayzis
@Shayzis 2 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh I just had a theory. What if Asgore was the one who killed Dess? Obviously accidentally buy still, what if? He got fired from his position at the police station due to the accident, Toriel never forgave him the same way she never tried to in Undertale, being a good friend of Rudolph, who forgave him, Asgore tries his hardest to be by his side, the Mayor/Dess and Noelle's mother is clearly being very cold toward Asgore and it seems like Noelle is oblivious to what happened. Maybe Kris didn't know either. This would be the reason Asgore lives in misery in Deltarune, crushed by the same guilt he felt in Undertale... Welp, that's my new headcanon now.
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
I think Asgore is definitely involved, but I don't think Dess is dead, since there's the, "You're lucky Dess isn't here" line that would make her being dead a lot more... awkward, to say the least.
@snowytechn0
@snowytechn0 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I have a clip from deltarune during the snowgrave route, when Kris and noelle are walking down the weird spell and speak path, she reverts to a small child-like character. Idk if it's a bug or not, but I thought I would point it out.
@Mr.Yahoo_
@Mr.Yahoo_ 2 жыл бұрын
It happens always
@snowytechn0
@snowytechn0 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Yahoo_ ok alright! Thank you for letting me know, because I never knowticed it in my other play through so thank you!
@yandere2345
@yandere2345 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice when going through the December spelling puzzle she turns into a little girl ffor a bit?
@That_FnfCoverGuy
@That_FnfCoverGuy Жыл бұрын
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@Caedynna
@Caedynna 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting train of thought!!!
@myth9013
@myth9013 2 жыл бұрын
Idk why but my brain started thing Dess is the "angel" many things have refered to Like the prophecy and spamton in the snowgrave route calling noelle angel
@justinclardie434
@justinclardie434 2 жыл бұрын
If it IS Dess... well, that answers one question but there are a lot of others. Where exactly is she? More hidden text in chapter 2 mentions that the speaker hears scratching noises... what the heck are those? How is she able to communicate through Spamton? Why is Spamton so quick to deny that there even was a voice? And why does Spamton think she was talking to you? And will I ever stop asking unanswerable questions? Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z!
@Caddy03
@Caddy03 2 жыл бұрын
A new upload from Dork gives me serotonin. :)
@drascia
@drascia 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: the hidden dialogue isn't Dess. Just Monika.
@misadique845
@misadique845 2 жыл бұрын
similar text can be found in Undertale too, after you kill Toriel Flowey imitates her voice and says some stuff: www.yo utube.com/ watch?v=FMTL85FPZKw That might just be because she's dead but I thought it was worth pointing out.
@LVArchivest
@LVArchivest 2 жыл бұрын
now i will always think of dess as like Charlie from don't starve
@Fallasyt
@Fallasyt 2 жыл бұрын
I have a simple theory She just misses her big sister because she went to college just like Asriel
@Dorked
@Dorked 2 жыл бұрын
It's certainly possible, but with the way she's talked about, I feel like there's probably a darker turn to it. The way Dess kept searching her name, the way Rudy says that if he dies, it's just Noelle and her mom. Time will tell, tho.
@mysticalkeyblade759
@mysticalkeyblade759 Жыл бұрын
I would like a theory on why Kris rips out their soul at the end of every chapter
@Dorked
@Dorked Жыл бұрын
I've touched on that a bit in my previous Kris videos, actually.
@bigyoutubefan7291
@bigyoutubefan7291 2 жыл бұрын
The bunker actually might be another dark world, so as the door you can't enter in chapter 1 at Asgore's flower shop.
@XCloak_PersonX
@XCloak_PersonX 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think that Dess is a goner by goner I mean gaster follower
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