DELUGE 3: Full tutorial and workflow walkthrough

[@syrupcore]

I'm still not convinced that you're not a cyborg from the future. It's amazing how skilled you've become at making these videos. Having made several (comparatively horrible) training videos in my life, the details:pacing ratio you manage to regularly pull off is an absolute marvel to me.

[@loslosbaby]

+1 cyborg, duh, its obvious, and yeah, the marriage-type-ring is not fooling us (oh oh, maybe I will be Terminated now) because duh, you would have obviously studied The Historic Records and seen that (since you're an Infiltrator Model, we decided) that "duh" (a valid cybernetic conclusion) "...I should have a wedding/marriage/bonding/partner ring because this will lower THEIR defenses in expectation of my humanity" etc., blah blah(tm), etc.(tm). Yes, I'm a little tipsy. God Bless You, Everyone.

[@mikeexits]

I'd imagine doing these types of videos for years would lead to it being a sort of subconscious act, like playing an instrument after years of practice and experimentation.

[@syrupcore]

​@Screw Kalergi So you're saying Ziv's actually human, sold his soul to cyborg devils and those devils craft the scripts he uses in order to dupe us? I could see that. Ziv is the Robert Johnson of KZbin gear videos. Fair enough.

[@savnac]

he must be a cyborg. He showed no shyness or awkwardness at 33:54 after hearing his own voice play back... ._.

[@brandonaikin5445]

Yes I totally agree and they stand the test of time. Hardware tends to do that. Saved me a ton of money by demonstrating features that I may or may not need. Thanks!

[@moonscore]

The best electronic instrument in the world right now just got better.

[@JeffCfreeradiorevolution]

It amazes me how you can be so intuitive and have so much knowledge on so many different devices... really incredible!

[@loopop]

@The Doctor is probably the kind of person that goes to a concert tells the guy sitting next to him with a wink “meh it’s calling reading the notes and playing them”

[@tazcerogers2947]

He gives me so much pleasure

[@mrd5024]

I said it once before I'll say it again, best music tech channel on the internet. Period.

[@garyturner5204]

Absolutely the best!

[@septembersoul5938]

I just ordered a new one yesterday (Nov 2022). I was between the Deluge and OP-1 Field, and I decided to go with the Deluge. I still plan on getting a Field someday, but after about a week of trying to figure out what I wanted, the Deluge ultimately won me over. I feel that the Deluge is ultimately the better machine, and it's hundreds of dollars cheaper. The website said the cost is going to be going up over the next few months, but it's still going to be cheaper than the Field. The new ones also have an OLED screen, so the new ones are even better than the older models.

[@RSKT_music]

I was in the same boat just over a year ago and I'm so glad I went with the Deluge. It's just got such a great set of features that make it feel endless every time you use it. I feel like everything you get in this box is well worth the money, and you'd be hard pressed to find anything else that offers as much as it does. Just got mine back with the new OLED fitted too, and can confirm that it's awesome! Also (shameless self plug), feel free to check out my channel. I have a whole video manual on there that can help you learn it :)

[@UreksatheJade]

Op-1 field is basically a toy

[@TristanBaldi]

My Deluge is coming TODAY!! I'm watching this one for the 5th time, thank you so much for this vid it's gonna help a lot!

[@usanomad]

Just ordered mine after watching this

[@bose5160]

@@usanomad To both of you, check out the sample packs available for this. I have found the presets somewhat tinny and digital sounding. With sample packs you can get a preset sound that can be tweaked to preference. The Juno 106 is amazing for me as I love making synth/retrowave sounding stuff. Good luck!

[@andrewlevinsounds]

Ordered mine last week. It's insane how with just one update they basically turned it into the most feature rich hardware looper on the marker. Words cannot express how excited I am!

[@theFloxie]

Now, how is it? :D

[@tr1co0]

Arrangement view in a groove box? Finally!!!

[@carstensorensen154]

Have had a Deluge for quite a while now, and this is by far the best compact walk-through of it so far!

[@Tylerfrompdx]

2 years in, how are you liking the deluge?

[@carstensorensen154]

@@Tylerfrompdx The Deluge remains the most used device of all the ones I have (except the computer ;-). I have recently started using the Torso T-1 a lot too, but for sequencing and as one voice in a set-up, it is still the best, and a brilliant all-in-one as well.

[@willswitchcraft]

Yes, this little box just keeps getting better, and better, and better..... Such great support. Even though the deluge has a few little issues and some obvious limitations, I'm still really glad I bought one from this great company.

[@michaelpaine8849]

I only need to watch this 20 more times. Action packed. I need this video in offline mode.

[@lilbouper]

if you get youtube premium you can download it ... i listen to these type of things on flights.

[@djsomar8164]

Sólo tienes que poner pp al final de la palabra youtubepp

[@Naderhasan]

Please do a review of newest firmware and OLED version

[@davidlane1248]

0:00 - Intro 0:50 - Grid views 1:50 - Controls 4:40 - Connectivity 5:35 - Project overview 7:55 - Sequencing 11:10 - Chance & iteration 12:00 - Playing live 13:40 - Automation 15:10 - Song view 17:40 - Arranger 21:15 - Synth engine 22:50 - FM synth 24:40: - Multisampling 25:45 - Time stretch 27:10 - Filters 28:05 - Voice options 29:30 - Modulation 32:30 - Audio clips 33:30 - Looping 35:00 - Overdub layers 36:40 - Resampling 37:45 - Effects 39:35 - MIDI & CV 41:05 - Misc

[@vertigev]

Thanks!

[@AaronFerenc]

My favorite request of any KZbinr Synth person:..."Synthstrom, can you please add autotune to the next update of Deluge?". HA! Fantastic video as always.

[@evanbates1212]

You are incredible. Thank you! I've watched this so many times now.

[@badbenjy]

Unit ordered. I'm gonna have to watch this soo many times.

[@badbenjy]

@@shadowbanned5164 best thing i've ever bought

[@accidentallyfasting5768]

I'm watching this video yet again because the deluge is so freaking feature rich. I was looking at expression knobs for some pedals I play thru, not knowing the deluge had one basically built in AND that I could automate stuff with CV clips (idk y I didn't know that). Endlessly cool!

[@davidlane1248]

I never would've guessed a full audio workstation could work with a primitive digit display, but Synthstrom really has put a ton of work into making the layout of the Deluge sensible and approachable... It's truly astounding

[@joshk2181]

It doesn't work. It needed a small screen. I have owned 2 of them. So close but so far away. 99% of the way there may as well be 0% of the way there because of their stubborn and cheap design decision

[@aquaticborealis4877]

@@joshk2181 What device would you suggest as an alternative?

[@UreksatheJade]

Fixed now, it's got oled

[@SwiftDreamer]

Finally got my own deluge. Thank you for inspiring this purchase

[@HazyJ28]

I am so impressed by this device. The synth engine (and sound quality in general) is the best I've heard in a long time, if not ever.

[@aradder]

Thank you so much for the full video on v.3 - I'm so late to the Deluge it's amazing to get the intro and newest workflow and features all in one video.

[@forkayebee3831]

100% sold, those arranger options are really comprehensive and I love it. It's why I don't use some other grooveboxes, wow, this thing is impressivee

[@girlinagale]

I want Deluge, ah but I purchased one 18 months ago, that's the Loopop paradox.

[@brentgreeff1115]

I just discovered this. - I had a Push for about 18 months - didn't use it much because I already work on a computer all day and switching to it just seemed like work. - but... are the limitations with this worth the convenience of not having to deal with a computer?

[@girlinagale]

@@brentgreeff1115 Try it you may really like it if you're definitely not inspired by Push/computer.

[@ClaudeDjale]

Thanks loopop for the tutorial. You are just a wonderful teacher.

[@daikuone]

I agree, but I wish he spoke a little slower. New content takes my brain a bit to absorb. I am new to some of these concepts on any daw or hardware, so learning the concepts along with execution is difficult in real time. I think a beginner course would be 👍.

[@sinewsmusic6455]

@@daikuone replay, pauze, KZbin speed modifier the fact that this is on KZbin means you can do whatever :)

[@geo100020002]

You never fail to delivery some of the most in depth content on this stuff. You do fuckin awesome!

[@joshsater4044]

I just bought one of these. Cannot wait to start digging in and learning how to use this thing.

[@garyturner5204]

Such an awesome job covering the Synthstrom Deluge and the latest OS version 3! Thank you so very much!

[@Tofupancho]

Outstanding video as always. I’ve had my Deluge over a year and you’ve filled a bunch of gaps in my knowledge of it. Super excited to play with the new features.

[@thebestdavidpeters]

Just bought one. The really amazing thing is how fast it got here. Bought on their site Monday afternoon and was in my hands by 11am on Wednesday. New Zealand to Texas in about 36 hours. Crazy. Was looking for a sampler and this beat out the Digitakt and Octatrack for me. Only have had it a day and I love it.

[@anthoonius_gabagoolius]

Still use it?

[@thebestdavidpeters]

@@anthoonius_gabagoolius I do. It’s nearly a DAW in a box. Pretty great machine.

[@CubaseAcademy]

I always enjoy your video content. I'm also astounded at the amount of effort and legwork you put into your videos. As a content creator myself, I understand how much work goes into it, but I usually only focus on the intricacies of one DAW, the amount of effort that goes into deep learning of every instrument you get your hands on is very impressive. Thank you for making these videos.

[@loopop]

Thanks very much!

[@enchanterthetim]

Whoa, downrush is cool! Thanks for always making great videos! My Deluge is currently in the mail from NZ! Excited!

[@girlinagale]

Haven't used Deluge much this year but heard some tracks I made mainly with it a couple of years ago I really like the sound, the organised arrangements, the synth clips and samples. I'm going to bring it back in to my work. And having A4 lists dated and numbered with tracks I can look again at all that work.

[@TMWSS]

Great video! The one thing I would have also included are the normal looper overdubs (rather than the layering overdub you showed), as this will probably be the usual looping workflow for most people. After you have recorded an initial audio clip, simply hold record and then press any pad in the main grid on the track below the audio clip you want to overdub. This records a single overdub layer which auto-extends until you tell it to stop.

[@loopop]

Thanks and indeed some cool features were omitted from the video and that’s definitely a good one!

[@TMWSS]

2 hour video required to cover everything!

[@remyvegamedia]

I've been looking into and considering the Deluge for over a year now and this is the first time it has made any sense to me haha. The song view is still sort of confusing, but I actually understand how to actually start an idea and a minimal grasp of just how deep it can go with it.

[@zooblestyx]

Never have I coveted anything as fervently as this box of wonders

[@nissieln]

Your channel is pure audio chocolate

[@daikuone]

Chocolate Rain? Sorry I couldn’t resist 😉

[@NoPhonesOnTheFloor]

I found out about the deluge yesterday, and with each Minute passing of this Review, my desire to get one grows more. It has like everything that i am missing on my circuit tracks (and more).

[@henninghoefer]

…but only until about halfway through: Browsing the SD card with a 4-digit 7-segment display is just insane (especially for the price).

[@hovermotion]

@@henninghoefer I agree...it's crazy how they installed the 70s style leds...but the shift key short cuts make up for this ... Its a higly desirable machine but the work flow is not sutited to all ...

[@mrparksy]

Great video as always. I love my Deluge, amazing development by the Synthstrom team!

[@elissitdesign]

Matt Parkes how’s this device for traveling around... like a train ride?

[@mrparksy]

@@elissitdesign it's great, Its about the size of a small laptop. I take mine on holiday and shorter journeys. The battery lasts around 6hrs. You can run it off a USB power bank as well.

[@CaidicusProductions]

This video is RIGHT up my alley! Thanks for this awesome video Loopop, you've made my night.

[@ChumpyDumps]

I'm very formidable on the Deluge but still picked up a few new things in this video. And obviously the looping part was a nice tutorial despite it causing my ears to bleed.

[@loopop]

Don’t say I didn’t warn you

[@OddPilot_]

This is soo exciting. Using Push2 with Mpc X for live Looping with Deluge + Akai force but this is what I’ve been waiting for......HARDWARE LOOPING in a portable DAW!!!!!!!!!!

[@TutsAndBeats]

You are my literally the goat...loopop forever :)

[@phils9333]

Superb video, still getting to grips with the deluge and all its vast features. Glad I sold my OP1 to buy this 😆

[@cwehden]

Couldn't agree more it puts the OP1 to shame.

[@jmechan]

Great stuff as always loopop. Thanks for all you do for the community!

[@bose5160]

To anyone thinking of buying a Deluge, I will tell you that it is INCREDIBLY powerful. However, with that power, be prepared to do a lot of manual diving and shortcut learning. It is worth it though, believe me. This is a DAW in a hardware box.

[@iosmusicman]

Absolutely brilliant in both length and depth. I definitely want one - NOW! Cheers. Lee

[@tylkoheptrus]

Perfect timing with releasing that!

[@zetathix]

Beautiful device, this channel really feed me with my obsession for music device design.

[@savnac]

man.. your guides are absolutely everything I feel like I’ll EVER need for general operation of the equipment you offer videos for. So many times I was thinking “ah okay.. but what about ______?” and then you answer that very question as if you were reading my mind. I love your content, and I have gladly subscribed.

[@Digithalis]

woow..this is a huge instrument!

[@mattnickel5113]

Thanks for this! Been waiting for the update and a comprehensive guide from YOU!

[@MUSCOVIES]

So hype for the looping

[@gregw4817]

Another excellent video. Thanks for all your work. Time to download 3.0!

[@Sepelman]

You’re truly a maestro in every ways. Thanks for sharing.

[@tylkoheptrus]

Excuse me for spaming with another comment but this tutorial is one of the best tutorials on music gear I've ever seen. Thank you for that and also kudos to Deluge coding team :)

[@rayderrich]

Such a high quality production about such a great tool, loving it!

[@WyattLite-n-inn]

I really wish they would come out with an option to be able to use an iPad screen as a display a la OP-Z.

[@MadelnMachines]

This product would be so amazing if it had a decent sized colour screen - perhaps even touch.

[@christianthompson1473]

All those coloured pads would drive me crazy

[@loslosbaby]

@@christianthompson1473 Those color pads speak to me,...I've been waiting for Euroburo and this is like an AIRCRAFT CARRIER EUROBURO/BeeBop had a baby with a Medusa/Tenori-On and a 1010 blackbox! Wow! I am droooooling to investigate it. I think my fingers would have a nice day on it. I had to pause the video and look at the silk-screen printing of the legends pertaining to the audio patching possibilities...the fact that it has arming/cueing possibilities really leads me to getting one and finding out if it can do The Whatcy DJ-Type Thing I'm Thinking About Doing WIth Eurorack That Would Otherwise Cost About 11k$...thing

[@anonymousmc7727]

Werd

[@richardwilliams1310]

@@christianthompson1473 Yes, I like this product but all these Ableton Live styled grid controllers with flashing lights would probably drive me nuts. MPC & Maschine sequencer workflow makes more sense to me with screens more like a daw

[@RonCavagnaro]

Best gear ever

[@7billionand1]

That singing brings into keen focus one of the things I live about your videos. They're almost egoless! It's so refreshing that you're not trying to be a STAR. Thank you!

[@SlowDescentToWild]

Great video, thank you. You're reviewing all the stuff that I'm lusting after, which both useful and dangerous at the same time! :)

[@JackAcid]

It arrived yesterday. It'll take a while to master this little fella, but I can already see how it'll expand my music. What a crazy machine, rammed with features. 😉

[@robertsyrett1992]

Ok, you are like the Scorsese of groove box workflow overviews.

[@loopop]

Thanks! Yeah I’m working on a full length feature film - thinking of calling it The PadFather. Wait, that’s a different director. Maybe The Groovefellas

[@lpadgett23]

@@loopop 😊😂

[@andivax]

Interesting device and amazing price tag!

[@JustinUrban1]

This thing is from another planet 🚀 🪐

[@7177YT]

I love you Loopop! Deluge is awesome and Synthstroms dedication is admirable but the several layers of major changes _are_ confusing if you haven't unlimited time to stay on top of 'em. ..mille grazie!

[@nyanko2077]

I was going to buy the mc-707 and then I found this beauty :)

[@saucearmy]

As a lontime MC-505 and MC-909 Groovebox enthusiast I was amazed when they announced the MC-707 and I immediately bought. Although the 707 is a good device, I never felt the same "let's jam and something great will come out" feeling I had with the old MC's. After trying the Blackbox from 1010 music I thought I had it until a friend of mine showed me the deluge. Sold my 707, bought a Deluge and I finally have that immediate workflow back I was searching for so long. absolutely love it.

[@cooperofnavarone8616]

Yeah. Good choice! That thing seems horribly overpriced for its function btw. I like the old roland groove boxes but with the deluge, it doesn't hold a candle imo.

[@saucearmy]

Cooper of Navarone absolutly, for me it has everything I need

[@TheStudioDrummer]

Thanks! I'm continuing to research the Deluge to decide if I want to get one. Your videos have been helpful.👊

[@connorsol]

Same! I'm pitting it up against Akai Force/Live II/X/One as well as MC-707/101. When he showed those X/Y buttons on this and hinted toward MPE coming to this in the future.. wow...now I'm much more willing to forgive the "too blinky/flashy" nature of some button operations and the lack of a beautiful multi-touch screen that Akai products have... and the woman's project at the end that allows managing Deluge from a PC is almost an equivalent to how MPC products have the Ableton Live Link feature 🤔

[@Bourgouche]

@@connorsol Same here - Deluge vs Force dilemma... Have you made a decision yet?

[@connorsol]

@@Bourgouche I just got a Deluge last week! (and a polyend Tracker last month) still learning but any questions lemme know if I was comparing this to a Force, though I've never used one, I'd be happy that I walked away with a truly battery operated device I could take anywhere with a built-in speaker and mic so even if I forgot my headphones / cables / etc I could bring it somewhere to create in the wild/public/etc. And because it has wooden sides and is quite small, it looks stylish enough to "belong" in public as opposed to a lot of these devices where it would look out of place to be out and about with one without being an obvious professional on the job sort of person oh, and I was right that the lights would annoy me and possibly even make me feel weird from all the flashing (at first), but there's a shortcut to set the brightness level, and once I learned some actual workflow I noticed that a lot of the "screens" (modes) I spent time in aren't nearly as flashy as when scrolling around a pattern full of colored notes. I got the Deluge for outdoor / warm month usage, while the Tracker is more my indoor / night time device that I store 1 TB of samples on. I'm planning on having the Deluge focus very little on sample and file management and be more of a "recon" device where I go out into the world and use inspiration to capture new sounds with an attached mic or just enjoy being outside while playing with the many synth presets on the Deluge. Its screen is almost worthless without having read the user manual, because you'll see _/-_+-_/¬\¦|¬×-\|¦[^> and apparently it's supposed to say "MIDI" lol like it's just ridiculous... you definitely gotta read the manual for the Deluge. The Tracker was more like just using a computer with different quirks. it was more self-explanatory because you get so much info from the screen. So idk, if you're planning on using a shit-ton of samples, maybe avoid the Deluge because menu-diving with a high school basketball scoreboard as your screen is fucking dumb. If I had to put my 1TB memory card into the deluge, I'd never get around to using any of em compared to on the Tracker, where I load up 40 per project easily. But it, and the Force, are stuck to the wall, so to speak. The MPC Live II isn't, but I didn't buy that either because I realized that it's not really a portable MUSIC maker but a portable BEAT maker that can kind of "fake it" with a little bit of melody. The Force is probably a better balance of both, but if I could choose between a Force or paying $1400 for my Tracker/Deluge combo, I'd still pick this so I could have 2 reasons to get the fuck away from my computer but still be able to make legit music, even if I go out in public or outside anytime soon, which of course I'll definitely want to after winter and the pandemic loosen their grip

[@Bourgouche]

@@connorsol Thanks for the in-depth reply, really appreciate it! Polyend tracker looks cool but I don't think I'm ready for the workflow... It's too far from what I'm used to and between day job, wife and kid I'm not going to be willing to learn something from scratch (same reason I never really got into the Digitakt as awesome as it is). What I'm looking for is something immediately fun and simple, that you switch, maybe connect a couple of external gear to, and start fucking around with. Obviously there will always be a learning curve but having watched few tutorial videos about Deluge now I believe I'll get there relatively fast. What you say about the MPC Live II as being more a beat making toy rather than a music making one feels very true, same reason I never really considered it, and I strongly suspect the Force to be in the same vein. I'm more of a preset synth + midi kind of guy, so less and less sure it is for me. Also I think you end up menu diving a lot, and at this point why not just get Push with Live? The thing is so big it's not going to leave your studio table anyway! I do have a couple of questions about the Deluge if you don't mind: - Have you tried to connect a midi mixer to it (I'm thinking Novation Launch Control XL or equivalent)? Having to mix / EQ / apply FX to every single element one by one seems like a bit of a pain, so wondering if there is a smart shortcut here? - Is there anyway to export separate stems into a DAW / record them separately? I'm thinking of using this as my main unit so if I draft songs on it I'd need to relatively easily export them to, say, Ableton to finish the arrangement and then move to mixing and mastering. If I have to record every single track one by one with the other ones muted that's going to take ages, and knowing me I'll just end up starting a new project every time lol... Thanks again and take care

[@tonilaznik]

Loopop! Your presentations are the best on the Web. God bless you and thx. T

[@FictitiousCtrlGames]

Why haven't I heard of this before? Looks epic!

[@hoprocker]

Another great video, approaching a shiny new toy from a fundamentals-based perspective! Great for my understanding of the equipment landscape, bad for my pocketbook.

[@maxmatteo2436]

amazing review once again! keep it up! thanks

[@shualiko]

Great video. Thanks again for doing these!

[@leetronix]

I really think they could of made the top UI much better and removed that dated oversize 70s calculator LED screen and replaced it with modern OLED screen for better viewing and more information. I do not mind the programming but this is a device for those who like over kill for everything and this is what it is its an over kill box. Not for me. Great overview and really enjoyed the way you broke it down.

[@fraka6160]

I think the idea is NOT to have a screen, NOT TO HAVE ANY MENU. Being different, on an intuitive or muscle memory way. This is a very small company which is doing it’s own way, own product culture with a cycle of update which increase the value of their product with time. A direct control of sale and direct feedback with their customers. Deluge is unique and so the way it interface with user. MPC LIVE are dull of menu and screen like a computer. OCTATRACK is old deep menu driven technologie. both are very capable. Deluge is feel and listen. just different. The question of the screen was clearly pose on their forum and the answer from the creator of the deluge is that there is no plan for a DELUGE II. He has so much plan to improve and stretch the capability of the existing platform that the question of a screen was completely out...I think he is right. Today you get small oled everywhere with oscilloscope view and menu like an apple II computer... look like a fashion trend . (edit) After few weeks working on it with YT video and deep reading the paper manual I start to get the muscle memory and understand design. I buy synth preset to accelerate the pleasure as the synth design is not so usefull ( great to modified thing but starting from scratch a synth sound is not very practicle)...lack of rotary switches. like the op1 it is a machine to sketch and record EP. about the screen, it is a joke and part of the look. quite difficult to use when you browse files. more I use the deluge less I need it...but on the first few month with a daily use I will still missing it. I don’t kuse the octatrack but I understand that it is a completely different tool. complimentary. It need also month of work to use it .

[@technopriest8686]

This is why I'm subscribed! Great pedagogy. Would love to see some tips on mixing and finalizing groovebox tracks as there isn't much content out there.

[@loopop]

Thanks! I’ve been meaning to do that for a while... hopefully soon

[@humankapital2000]

OMG it's out! Edit: Thanks a lot for the tutorial!

[@girlinagale]

I wish Deluge would resample itself from a chosen bar for say two bars, just to create a loop of the middle of a groove. It could then be switched to during a performance and held as a groove for however long was appropriate.

[@joshk2181]

I think it actually does some of this

[@a_visual_novel]

Just got one and learning rn with this!

[@sajp8859]

Awesome! The Cosmos decided we needed a mind on Earth that could explain complex synthesis and it’s associated machinery to normal humans like me, so it created loopop. I’m dead serious!

[@DaNocool2011]

Your voice is truly mesmerizing

[@gainstage4497]

I am so old... I still love playing house & DnB on four turntables... When I produce I have reason or live open and a midi controller... so old

[@OddPilot_]

Dan Allen that’s not old lol that’s what I do.....wait

[@GrootsieTheDog]

I usually love reading manuals but this was waaay more helpful :) After following along with my deluge and going through the entire tutorial, I have a really good grasp of the machine. Thanks! The only issue I have run into is with the midi clip view and setup. I’m sure I’ll figure it out ;)

[@loopop]

Thanks! have you contacted their support? They’re pretty responsive

[@GrootsieTheDog]

loopop I figured it out. Sometimes you just have to get away from the machine, have some tea and then tackle the issue fresh - mostly had to do with confusing Deluge with multiple info on a single midi channel because I would mix up my Arturia midi channels when using the LEARN/INPUT and midi madness ensued. Hmmm could use this....🤪

[@TheHedgehog]

Thanks for this! Love all your content and the production value and info shows the time you put in. When are we going to get a peek in your studio so we can see what inspires you and what gear you decide to keep around after all these reviews?

[@loopop]

Thanks! The reviews *are* what inspire me... with this one in particular I didn't have much time but with many others I set a goal of a (hopefully) good jam or even a track (which is what you'll hear in the intro/outro)

[@justinsainsbury4050]

As usual, excellent comprehensive review - inspiring even perhaps in how to lay out a presentation. Cheers Loopop! I’m really torn between getting hold of the Octatrack or Deluge to pair up with a digitakt for a compact live performance set up. Having invested in learning the ‘(in)famous Elektron workflow’ I’m leaning towards the OT. I’ll record home made stems from my other gear and plan on using in a live set with a little impro. It will allow me to practice outside a chilly loft space studio over the winter! Decisions ...( 1st world problems).

[@RonCavagnaro]

I have ot and deluge. I say get deluge because it's amazing and easy and fun! OT is very difficult and limited if you want to make complete tracks. I use OT as a drum machine on steroids

[@Lo-fi_Hi-brow]

@@RonCavagnaro I've landed on this vid because of my love/hate relationship with my Digitakt/Digitone-so cool, but some of the UI is absolutely ridiculous. Wondering if the Deluge would be more well-suited to jive with my mind. I can't fathom what Elektron designers were thinking g sometimes (mostly in regards to file structure and accessing different menus and functions).

[@tommyg5095]

The Deluge.... Awesome... Great demonstration here. Would there or could there be more greatness of this machine/ instrument, if two of these were implemented in a set up...???

[@cardboardmusic]

A couple of questions, firstly, what isn't too clear for me was the number of steps available for sequencing? You quickly mentioned zooming in/out to get more steps, but you didn't go any further in your explanation. I'm hesitating between a Korg SQ64 (which I have), and exchanging it for this. I understand that this isn't a sequencer, it's much more than that (and the SQ64's goal), one can clearly see, but what I'm interested in is a combination of things, most importantly: the sequencing capabilities and the possibility to link up to some modular equipment. if you could just clarify the sequence lengths, I'd be most grateful - and any other remarks of course. Lastly, although this is a few years ago (the video), there's no pros/cons section here as you often do. From watching this I have to say I can't see any cons here, it seems amazing/perfect - except they're a little difficult to get hold of (in the EU).

[@UberSynth]

Hi Loopop, any chance doing an update with the knew ability to upgrade and retrofit the LED segment display with the new OLED?

[@loopop]

A chance for sure! I'm trying to put a deposit on the retrofit but the page won't load....

[@gluepet2074]

Great review, as always. Once a machine like becomes SO feature-packed, I begin to wonder why not just use a DAW? This is where I landed with the Octatrack - I ditched it and have not looked back. For me, keeping a DAW-less setup more limited/specialized has helped me get more done and is more fun.

[@connorsol]

I think it's the tactile feedback. It's learning a touchy-Feely physical thing as opposed to investing yet another slice of time each day staring into the same computer screen. Also, with battery portability, you really could take this on a picnic 😅

[@fraka6160]

i think dawless is the future.

[@ShaighJosephson]

Almost bought it...but realized that the firmware has outgrown the hardware with three button combos now... A new hardware design should be in the works... Waiting for that...

[@TheFlippertube]

That's why I sold mine. It's a jungle.

[@ShaighJosephson]

Unfortunately, it looks like They have no intention of addressing the hardware control interface... I ended up going with a Headrush Looperboard doubling as a 4 stereo channel mixer into an Akai Force at the same cost... It"s working out pretty good...

[@trev-sb2bk]

seriously my fav yt channel! would really like to know your favorite hardware to make music with :)

[@loopop]

Thanks! I honestly don’t have one; maybe the Continuum. I’m fortunate to be able to meet a new music buddy every week and you typically see the result on the channel.

[@loopop]

Jan-Martin Ulvåg wow man I am fascinated by the motivation behind your comment. I mean, to say “no one” is simply ignorance but I’m curious about the incentive to share that fact. This instrument doesn’t appeal to everyone, but a simple KZbin search as well as the links in the description show a few really nice musical examples.

[@ConsciousBrosCommunity]

@@jan-martinulvag1962 Dude, what the hell xD This instrument can be played as just that: an instrument, capable of producing almost any timbre one might desire, and the sound totally depending on the human mind operating the tool. It doesn't have to part of a complex setup. On that note, have you SEEN Vangelis' current custom setup? It's *elaborate* to say the least. Have a think about it

[@ConsciousBrosCommunity]

@@jan-martinulvag1962 "Great music" is highly subjective. A classical composer can create a masterpiece with this machine, and so can an ambient-psychedelic-electronic musician or a highly technical Hip Hop producer - whether you see one or the other as great comes down to your personal taste :) The tool itself is just a medium - and a highly capable one in this particular context

[@c137medina]

Cool... if only I could buy one from a retailer in the U.S. 😕 Amazing review, as usual. Best reviews in the game.

[@loopop]

Thanks very much! They only sell direct BTW. Mine arrived in a few days

[@c137medina]

I’m afraid of getting hit with some hidden import fees and/or tariffs. 😖

[@loopop]

Chris Medina makes sense. Just ask them what the current state of things is for US shipments - surely they’ve done it recently

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

Jeremy Blake understands this machine very well...

[@eitant7]

A couple of questions on this.. 1. Is it possible to chop up an audio clip and then play the slices and rearrange the loop? 2. Is it possible to trigger sample one shots from a keyboard and print them on y'all's on the deluge?

[@hedcas]

this thing blows EVRYTHING else out of the water

[@morten1]

@@bradejensen Oh they look, and we will have so much nice cheaper gear to come.

[@alexiwiedemann]

Hi this tutorial made me decide for the deluge!!!, one of your favorite features is multisampling to create instruments inside deluge!!!, what is the right way to organize the files into the forders to guarantee that deluge put the right semitone in the right place?, is there a nomenclature like the note as part of the filename?, how can I "import" instruments into the deluge?

[@jasonesty3880]

I was going to buy an Octatrak MKii and the centerpiece for a DAWlwss live rig but, after watching this, I am second-guessing that decision.

[@TheGhostfaceKLR]

Buy the Deluge!! I've made more progress with my Deluge in a few months than I did with my OT MKii in several years. I just sold the OT last week. Good riddance, OT!

[@christianthompson1473]

Im struggling with the fact its just a load of blinking lights?

[@loslosbaby]

@@TheGhostfaceKLR "Progress" is the 1000$ keyword here

[@ruffiankick]

wow. i actually want one. i use ableton so much, i feel like id be right at home using this

[@ruffiankick]

@@alien_brain talking about workflow wise man.

[@loopop]

@alien brain I mention it in the video as well, song view is very similar to Live’s session - obviously every standalone Groovebox is more limited than a computer and daw

[@mysticsailor9]

Personally i do not think the Deluge correlates to Live at all.. it does have a very capable though sometimes arcane to use, sequencer and offers plenty of sequencing goodies plus the easy to use note entry.. but as a Live and Deluge owner i do not see the similarities at all.

[@mdjey2]

I wish it had those displays 22:10.

[@daikuone]

I wish they came up with a version 2 with a proper screen, then I would buy it for sure. Do current owners find the lack of a screen a real limitation? I find the continual updates a real plus for the company.

[@mysticsailor9]

the lack of a decent screen is definitely a limitation

[@joshk2181]

its a horrible limitation. they would sell 10x as many even with a screen half the size of the op1 or with an ipad opz type screen. it makes me sad

[@davidpinault5433]

What a wonderfull grovebox!! In every review I saw the muting of clips/sections /whatever is synced to bars, is it possible to have it free for a much live feeling.

[@untoldofficialyoutube8563]

This is way better than an MPC