How Elsa And Anna’s Parents’ Death Was NOT An Accident In Frozen...

How Elsa And Anna’s Parents’ Death Was NOT An Accident | Disney's Frozen
In Frozen 2, Anna and Elsa finally learned what happened to their parents' ship when it disappeared when they were younger, but it turns out that they might not have learned the whole story. According to a fan theory, King Agnarr and Queen Iduna’s ship was destroyed in the Dark Sea on purpose instead of the random happenstance that Disney made it seem like. And to make matters worse, if this theory ends up being true then that would mean that the events which caused their ship to go down and ultimately kill them, were set in motion long before Elsa was even born.
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[@leonorakristinerozalinamll9473]

I think Nok is the guardian of Athohallan so it must just have tried to protect Athohallan from anyone who was seeking it out.

[@bloodvalentine0023]

Most likely as Anna and Elsa's mother knew of the spirit, it's in the song All is Found- literally says "Dive down deep into her sound but not too far or you'll be drowned" describing the horse and all the spirits actually entirely in the song. As well as describing the location to. Which was costly.

[@AlyCatandElsacat]

@@bloodvalentine0023 WOW ❤SO❤SMART❤

[@tarashaw2523]

I agree

[@tarashaw2523]

@@bloodvalentine0023 it’s possible

[@notinthemoodbro9268]

Ur actually right!

[@evilsharkey8954]

I don’t think it was Nokk that killed the king and queen. I think the rough seas are part of the spell/curse that created the veil. Ahtohallan is beyond the veil, and they tried to go around it, not realizing it’s more than just a cloud over the land. What’s interesting is the shipwreck is found on dry land, not in the water. From a purely physical standpoint, that would mean there was either a massive flood that flooded the ship and then receded or the wreck didn’t sink but floated to shore without its occupants. Speaking of which, there is no trace of any victims, either the royal couple or their crew. What happened to the bodies? Had they escaped the ship and succumbed to the cold water, Titanic style? Were their bodies pulled from the boat by a water spirit? Did someone find the bodies and give them a proper send off? Were they scavenged by wild animals?

[@sephirothcrescent5768]

there is a theory that Elsa's parents are related to Tarzan, but i highly doubt that,others even say that King Triton was the one who sank the boat of Anna and Elsa's parents,cus you know King Triton did not like humans very much since humans killed his wife Athena(i think that was her name)Queen of the sea mother to Ariel.

[@katieparker8560]

@jf k totally agree what father would want there daughter to stay away from people that killed her mother plus he probably has seen people do like today like fishing throwing things in the ocean and so on u could see why he would not be fond of people

[@JEB646]

When I watched frozen 2 you know how the horse get calm the ocean is calm so it's prob based on his mood and when he was crazy the ocean with whoosh all woozy do😂

[@Yuliaobial]

It's EVIL you forgot E

[@Yuliaobial]

Bro evil not veil

[@victorialaing4227]

Since Elsa’s parents were the ones that decided to lock her up and not teach her to control her powers, if the second theory it’s true, then their death would be their own fault, not Elsa’s.

[@kayleecassiethegeek2697]

If we're looking at the last theory, wouldn't it be the leader of the trolls fault? Because the leader of the trolls after Elsa got Anna hit in the head with her power told them that they had to separate and that they had to keep people from seeing else's magic

[@roiitzkovich4545]

As Anna said: "You are not responsible for their choices Elsa".

[@ethenallen1388]

After everyone had been driven out of Arundel, Anna asked what was going on, and Elsa replied "I woke the Magical Spirits of the Enchanted Forest." I think the screen writers put that exchange in to establish that the Spirits, including the Nokk, were dormant at the time of Agnarr's and Idunna's voyage. If so, then the question of whether or not the Nokk was responsible for their deaths has already been answered.

[@river2258]

But of i remember correctly, the forest people, sorry i forgot their names, said that they listened to the spirits, but they cant listen if the spirits are dormant.

[@drewrobinson9120]

King Runeard was the reason for Agnarr and Iduna's death. Elsa was created to heal the imbalance created by Runeard's treachery, seeing as her mother Iduna was of Northuldra (a people that were as much a part of the magic of the Enchanted Forest as they were humans). I doubt the Noxx targeted Agnarr and Iduna personally, more the tempest of imbalance than intentional malice. After all Ahtohallan was calling Elsa to it when the Noxx attacked her. Ahtohallan had lost control of the other spirits, because of Runeard's betrayal of the Northuldra and the war waged in the Enchanted Forest, which affected (damaged) the spirits and garnered their anger and the curse that fell over the Enchanted Forest.

[@frozen2yesdespicableme4no]

I was thinking that too for a long time. Maybe they should address this in Frozen 3.

[@EquineMetalhead]

I think that Nok is a kelpie and his job is to protect all the secrets of the past. So when King Angar and Queen Iduna set into the dark sea, Nok noticed them and since Nok is a kelpie and the guardian of Atahallan, he got angry. So, he created a massive storm, ambushed the passengers of the ship so that way there was no chance of survival. But Nok was acting on instinct, not because he’s a kelpie, because he’s an equine. Equine animals especially stallions (male horse that can have babies) are very territorial over their mares (female horse,) their herds, their foals (baby horse) and their land. And Nok is a stallion and even bachelor stallions (stallions without a herd and a mate) are territorial. When looking for mares, they will occasionally stop some place and claim it their own, and if another horse gets too close, the stallion will defend its territory. So Nok was defending his territory. And like wild animals, they can be domesticated and Elsa calmed him down and tamed him. Elsa also gained Nok’s trust and respect because he realized, not all humans are bad. He also knew she was special. He’s never seen a human with powers before, especially water related cause ice and snow is water, it’s just frozen. So he related to her in a way because they both have something to do with water. And since Elsa was special and respectful, he gave her access to Atahallan. That’s my theory of why King Agnar and Queen Iduna were killed also, why Nok let Elsa into Atahallan.

[@delireent.3960]

It's not an impossible theory, but if it's true, it means Elsa became Friend with the one who killed her parents. And it would bé very dark

[@danielleschiazza6172]

Friends? They're all spirits of nature and therefore one and the same in a way. She understands that her grandfather is the cause of everything not the spirits.

[@rotemmenachemi2858]

But Nok also killed Iduna, who's done nothing wrong

[@ivanfergusonfotwe4123]

And the spirits managed to gift the child magical powers

[@TheDragonEmpress26]

@@ivanfergusonfotwe4123 Yeah I know that and it was also revealed that Iduna went to Arrendell with Argnar and got married after his father died together they two Kids Elsa the fifth spirit and Queen Anna

[@LadyLeomon]

@@TheDragonEmpress26 I think it’s weird that Anna said the spirits gave Elsa to Iduna as a gift for saving Agnaar then killed them both …

[@TheDragonEmpress26]

@@LadyLeomon Yeah your right and basically that Iduna and Argnar went to Atthallan to discover how Elsa got powers but according to Jennifer Lopez she said they were going to Rapunzel and Eugene's wedding but it was a lie they left to discover how Elsa got her powers but they got killed by Nok the guardian of Atthallan

[@user-ci3kh6qo3x]

I know this is late but it couldn't have been nok a sea horse shouldn't be strong enough to tip over a ship

[@zytarybak3044]

But now Nok get befriending with Elsa.. It's sad that he killed Elsa and Anna parents.. 🥺😞

[@EquineMetalhead]

But he didn’t know about Elsa. Also, he’s a kelpie/stallion. Wild stallions in real life are very territorial over their herd, their mares, their foals and their land. And Nok’s job was to guard the secrets of the past which means Atahallan was his territory along with the dark sea. So when they were crossing the dark sea, they were intruding into his territory and he got angry and defended it. But, he knew Elsa was special. He connected to her because she had powers of ice and snow. Ice, snow and frost is water, it’s just frozen. And Nok is the water spirit. Elsa gained his trust and respect and he gave her access to Atahallan to learn the secrets of the past.

[@monsterhighandbarbiefan]

i think king agnars dad is to blame for angering the spirits

[@ethenallen1388]

1 Disney's bread and butter has always been family-friendly movies. I very much doubt that they would want something like the death of Elsa and Anna's parents hanging over their relationship with the magical spirits with whom they had a close relationship. They certainly would not want Elsa herself to have been responsible. 2 Storms at sea happen all the time and ones big enough to sink Agnarr's and Idunna's ship, which would be considered small, under powered and poorly built by today's standards, are not unusual. In the days before radar and weather satellites, it would have been easy for such a vessel to be caught by surprise. 3 Agnarr's and Idunna's trip to Attahalla was hastily planned. Even the captain who, as an experienced sea man, might have known that the region they were heading into was stormy that time of year and could have advised them to wait a few months, had not been told where they were going until they had left Arundel. 4 No one was thinking that there would be a second movie when they were making Frozen. The Enchanted Forest and angry magical spirits were an afterthought. I feel supremely confident that Agnarr's and Idunna's deaths were the result of nothing more than the need to advance the plot.

[@tauriqadams4094]

I can't believe I actually read all that 😂but u do make a very valid point but what if they were planning the second movie or make us think that was their intention?

[@jacobweems3316]

As terrible as their way of helping Elsa was when they were alive she had control of her powers.

[@user-rx8xk2nk5t]

I think the reason the nock let elsa ride him was because she used her powers, and the nock realized that she was a spirit and let her through.

[@jessicaeddins6550]

I think it is a mix they should have been better parents to Elsa, but also the water spirit was just doing what he knew to do to protect his area.

[@danielleschiazza6172]

There are quite a few people saying "how could a horse destroy a ship?" 😂 nokk is the water spirit and the horse is just the water spirit in it's physical form. Nokk controls the water, he can manipulate it to do whatever he wants. He created the giant waves that destroyed the ship.

[@TheDragonEmpress26]

That is true they did die because of the water spirit Nok

[@pigeonfun1771]

I always thought that the water horse killed Anna and Elsa's parents. It surprises me to learn this is a theory now.

[@LuxPax0000]

Wasn't it confirmed that they survived as far as the cheeta and has a brother named tarzan?

[@pigeonfun1771]

@@LuxPax0000 Oh yea, I forgot...But also I didn't know it was confirmed. I thought it was a theory made by fans.

[@LuxPax0000]

@@pigeonfun1771 it was originally fan theory... That's why am so confused rn... But if nokk didn't do that, then no tarzan

[@mothra327]

Yeah maybe nok is the guardian of the athohallan but he is also the guardian of the dark sea but when Elsa was born and unlocked her true self to the athohallan she was declared the new guardian of athohallan they say nok is the most aggressive and most powerful spirit but no it was Elsa and her powers from athohallan because anyone who goes deeper into the athohallan will freeze to death even if it was Elsa the spirit of ice and athohallan

[@briandaleske5139]

I really like these theories, I think they each sound very interesting.

[@cici6295]

When Elsa and Anna's parents died, Elsa hadn't quite controlled her powers. The sea became calm once Elsa tames the Horse Spirit. 💗❤️💗 I think the grandfather had a lot to do with the chaos, not the Horse itself. That's why the song Show Yourself is the most meaningful song as Elsa is comforted by her mother's spirit who had been calling to her.

[@sakura44560]

half bet on agnar and scene its in nok nature cant be help

[@theelitetoonforce9254]

Total honesty, I do NOT want them to return in Frozen 3. It would make no sense

[@Sungod77777]

True like we know all about their parents Frozen 2 answered their past storyline so there is nothing else to do with their characters- I don’t know what else you can do, and bringing them back would ruin story.

[@Skairipa002]

@@Sungod77777Read Dangerous Secrets book. Trust me, if they will comeback - it will be the right thing to do. Their Dynasty, I’m pretty sure have very, very bad history, since Ancestor- half myth, till their Grandpa/grandma story, and their parent’s story. I guess, family’s reunited - will be the correct ending, maybe not in Frozen 4 ( Frozen 3 will be separated for 2 movies )

[@elsahyrule6711]

Why would the Nokk cause the death of Anna & Elsa’s parents, it makes no sense. Iduna was part of the Northuldra and the spirits protected the forest. In the beginning of frozen we see the Northuldra and the spirits living together in harmony. I know this was the theory that was going around, but it is a little dark. The spirits weren’t evil.

[@aspieangel1988]

Of course not. Blackbeard killed them according to OUAT which is cannon according to Disney because they own OUAT. What’s interesting is the enchanted forest is the SAME PLACE in both Frozen 2 and OUAT so Elsa had to have traveled to storybrooke sometime between the time of the wedding and before the events of frozen 2 took place.

[@eddog6666]

I noticed something about the ship. There are supposed to be 3 life boats. 1 was in the ship one on land. The third one unaccounted for

[@ethenallen1388]

Given the condition that ship was in when Gale led Elsa and Anna to it, it's reasonable to say that the boat was torn off during the storm.

[@eddog6666]

Or maybe it wasn’t tore off. They still haven’t found the bodies or shown a funeral yet.

[@cabellero1120]

The land mass with the long name.... That's where Elsa's parents were going. They wanted to find out about Elsa and her powers . The queen had told her daughters that it was dangerous to go there.

[@CherryllFarrell]

I think Nokk is the guardian of Ahtohallan so it must just have tried to protect Ahtohallan from anyone who was seeking out.

[@breannapajer4252]

I like the video. I think the theory is plausible. I believe the spirit was taking revenge for the actions of the King’s father and perhaps the Queen was collateral damage. Or maybe she was targeted as well because she married into the family. My only complaint is the incorrect information about Kelpies! Kelpies are not Scandinavian, they come from Scottish folk lore and are found in lakes and rivers. Perhaps this Kelpie ranges from the river to the sea.

[@stormvirvel]

It could be a plausible theory honestly I agree. I also reacted to the kelpie part cause Nokk is most likely not a kelpie, it's probably a nixie (shape shifting water spirits in norse/germanic folklore). There is a specific one called Bækhesten/Bäckahästen which it's probably based on. It's quite similar to a kelpie though (for context, I'm scandinavian myself).

[@Anastasialovesicecream]

I didn't really know that horses were that dangerous 😳 🤔 😅 😬 😂 🤣

[@user-fi1qj2ix9h]

THE HORSE WAS BASED ON A BIG SCANDINAVIAN I DID NOT KNOW THAT

[@exoticafton3457]

I figured that Elsa and Anna’s parents death wasn’t an accident because remember when they went to Athohallan to find answers for their daughter and Nox lived in the dark sea? Yeah so I was thinking that maybe their death was when Nox killed them.

[@kristenfuller9168]

At first I thought it was the hurricane Thunderstorm that did it.

[@tenacioustwiza]

Please can anyone send me the link or a full movie of frozen 2 I tried downloading it but only finding clips just like the same one am watching 😢

[@MiracleGirl8]

If the parents of Elsa and Anna where at the top of the nokks list, the nokk might have wanted the whole family gone,so he went for elsa, also, what if he only wanted to drown elsa and annas family?????

[@JEB646]

When I watched frozen 2 you know how the horse get calm the ocean is calm so it's prob based on his mood and when he was crazy the ocean with whoosh all woozy do😂

[@SeekFromdoors1]

Nokk was protecting the ocean that's why he killed the parents

[@MuhammadIbrahim-us5bf]

That is all true but there is one thing you missed just focus when their ship is drowning since that happened in the dark Sea and nobody found their dead body so when Elsa and anna found the ship shouldn't there dead body,s Be their????

[@wizardking108]

In my opinion her parents are alive and frozen 3 will be about their parents...

[@millersarah1989]

Actually we don't know why the water sprayer actually did that also the water should relax a trying to save Elsa that's why she clicked on trying to bring her

[@Multiversaljayden47]

again it's nobody fault storms happened all the time also if Disney were like the buffer brothers unlikely they would want the movies going this far dark like stranger things

[@nadakarameh4660]

nock is the spirit of water,so it must be garding it's part of the ocean since Athaholen was it's territory it had to Elsa and Anna's parents

[@ohkeipooh9987]

No one No can tell what lay in the future

[@EnkelHabibaj-xi9mp]

How remembers llafe sying: I thought nobody s shep can pass the sea only if there was no one in the shep" that means they are alive

[@martinamarkovic1125]

The fact that they didin't die. But got on a Island after the storm and had one more Child that is Tarzan beological sibling of Elsa and Anna!?.

[@user-ge7dl8cc1s]

Bro stop making things more complicated Tarzan’s parents had a brown dress and his dad had jeans on their parents had on royal outfits

[@joywalz4076]

I can’t wait for frozen 3

[@DaydayG4]

3:39

[@callmethecommentcountess9329]

She was born with them

[@DaydayG4]

3:08

[@FBI_AND_THE.I.R.S]

Anna:she’s my sister she would never hurt me! *that’s what you think until memories come back and then oop uh oh that’s a real shame*

[@irlyirish7134]

Plot twist: *covid happened because it was in the forest and Elsa and Anna released covid everywhere* Anna and Elsa are who to blame😂

[@wangonn6601]

7:45 maybe Disney's

[@laci-ri4ii]

It’s not Elsa her parents wanted to find out abt her the spirits gave her the powers

[@heathercarlson9535]

I believe that the brotch on elsa and ana mothers dress looks like the hope diamond causes tragedy thoses how have owned the hope diamond is a cursed stone and every person it belonged to died

[@aleahberanek710]

I thank what lead to Elsa and Anna’s parents death was the trolls 🧌

[@user-ge7dl8cc1s]

The trolls can’t go into water ?

[@user-yq6ui3sb8v]

I want to know that how Elsa was born in superpowers and why the movie's name is frozen.

[@AndyHalden-bz1yk]

I don't think it was the horse who killed Iduna and Agnar because horses aren't strong enough to break a boat right?

[@danielleschiazza6172]

The horse is just the physical representation of the water spirit. Water is very powerful and it is what killed them. The seas were rough at the time, the waves were so big, the waves are water, the water is nokk the horse and spirit of water.

[@kalyan2064]

I think Elsa will help Anna to control her fire 🔥 powers

[@aaroncaravana7806]

What does Elsa and Anna’s parents aren’t dead? Why don’t they make an appearance in the third movie?

[@karthikaashree]

I don't know why thes Disney makes these Disney Princesses parents to die or disappear 🥲 Ariel (mom ), Elsa( both mom and dad ) , cinderalla ( mom and dad )belle (mom) snow white ( mom ) and dad ...

[@travispalmer9511]

A combination of all 3

[@Luna_Nicole]

I think Nokk killed their parents?

[@liltmarshall8717]

Nokk's are naturally evil creatures

[@EquineMetalhead]

He’s a kelpie.

[@adithyabhaskar.s.9418]

How are every single youtuber know this bruh

[@ohkeipooh9987]

I Love his name Nokia is my favorite I spell Nok auto spell turned it into Nokia

[@SeekFromdoors1]

Its actually called nokk

[@roybrouchfrancislagura7714]

What if frozen3 will be the story of king agnarr ang lduna

[@rebeccah2729]

This certainly screws up the confirmed fan theory that Tarzan was their brother. Plot hole??? !!

[@delireent.3960]

I'm sorry to Say this but this is a theory that I hate because it's so obvious that it's wrong. Tarzan is a british from the begining of the 20th century. Elsa And Anna are from arendelle in something like Middle of the 19th century. Also, the boat is not the same on both movie: The boat on Frozen is sinking. The boat on Tarzan is burning. I don't know why this theory is so popular to be honest

[@rebeccah2729]

@@delireent.3960 Pixar confirmed it a year or so back in some interview. So theres some major discrepancies since then. It's hard to keep up with nowadays since "multiverse" seems to be a theme in most filming now.

[@stormvirvel]

@@delireent.3960 agreed. I know they semi confirmed it but I really so strongly dislike this theory, I do not personally accept it as canon. if anything frozen and the little mermaid would have made a lot more sense being connected cause at least they are based in the vicinity of eachother and the original stories has the same author. also aren't tarzan's parents supposed to be british? and how would they end up so far off in a jungle when they were heading for athohallan (cause athohallan seems a bit more up north like it would be based on svalbard or something). it makes no sense at all.

[@danielleschiazza6172]

​@@stormvirvelexactly. It makes zero sense! Literally zero. Nothing at all adds up. The timelines are wrong, the area of the world is wrong, the culture, everything.

[@kalyan2064]

It is all king Runeard's fault

[@mohanbansal2321]

I don,t think so .

[@user-ge7dl8cc1s]

The only thing wrong with this is how could nok flip a boat over

[@danielleschiazza6172]

Because he is the water spirit! He literally is the water! Idk why people are saying a "horse" can't turn a ship! The horse is just the water spirit in it's physical form. Nok controls the water, therefore he created those giant waves that destroyed the ship.

[@wildrose7760]

I think its Samantha fault

[@ifroggy123]

Frozen 3 is I think going to be released 2024

[@user-qt6sf6yl1f]

2025

[@ifroggy123]

K thx for telling me

[@leonardmbugua1002]

I think nok is to blame

[@SecretofSiam]

I think it’s nokk

[@sainiharika]

I agree to both theories

[@tracynickels164]

Fate!!!!

[@swagatika23patel]

What 😮

[@joshuamarcgodinez821]

all the fresh beat bmd all the amazing spiderman robert peterson

[@siennawalker4868]

Wow

[@allisonrodriguezpaisleyrodreeg]

😮😢

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[@kingreyes3838]

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[@PlayaMira]

Nokk

[@salwayassin]

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[@DaydayG4]

3:07

[@sephirothcrescent5768]

It was all the fault of Agnar's father.