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Delve Into [Alleged] ChatGPT Red Flags: Logical or Linguicist? 🚩🤔

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Delve Into [Alleged] ChatGPT Red Flags: Logical or Linguicist? 🚩🤔 #weoutchea #gullah #geechee #chatgpt #language #education #linguicism sunnmcheaux.com weoutcheamerch.com

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@wastedinspiration
@wastedinspiration 4 ай бұрын
There are people who would rather turn themselves inside out than dismantle an unfair power structure
@bassboosted993
@bassboosted993 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately there’s no winning with hateful people. They always have a problem with something
@lkeke35
@lkeke35 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, malignant people will always find an excuse to be hateful, even if it completely contradicts whatever they hated about you a week ago!
@BruinPhD2009
@BruinPhD2009 4 ай бұрын
​@@lkeke35 Exactly. It's the one thing they don't understand/ acknowledge about themselves: their desire to hate is insatiable. If they ever got what they claimed they wanted, they would turn on each other, making them the true danger to the structures and systems they say they're "defending."
@szigtema
@szigtema 4 ай бұрын
Yep! Trying to please (or rather, Appease) them is a losing game of moving goalposts. The only way to win is by NOT playing
@fariesz6786
@fariesz6786 4 ай бұрын
​@@szigtemait's literally like when you're in an abusive relationship i just realised
@fariesz6786
@fariesz6786 4 ай бұрын
i wonder how aware they are of it though.. bc i've seen so many people who aren't willing or even capable of looking in the mirror (figuratively) that i assume maybe they truly believe the reasoning for their petty complaints. which at the same time makes me less and more frustrated somehow (less bc it helps me see them as pathetic victims of their own ignorance; more bc it takes away any hope of having a productive discussion with them)
@hiimcrazyfordrwho
@hiimcrazyfordrwho 4 ай бұрын
Using a lot of high level words is common for some neurodivergent people, too. So treating them as a red flag won't only be a racist action, but an ablist one as well.
@dragonflies6793
@dragonflies6793 4 ай бұрын
Yep yep! I remember getting made fun of by my classmates in ninth grade for using the word "ought". I forced myself to learn to talk casually because if I sounded smart people hated it.
@shadowman21282
@shadowman21282 4 ай бұрын
Yep, I got made fun of a lot as a kid for using words "that kids shouldn't know"
@MoltandMigrate
@MoltandMigrate 4 ай бұрын
There are so many times I've been called a "bot" online because of my terse, straightforward way of speaking through text.
@josephinethornton3823
@josephinethornton3823 4 ай бұрын
Debacle was my favorite word in 4th grade. First word I taught my own child? Precipice. Because when you're a toddler everything is a freaking precipice and it's easier and faster for a parent to simply yell, "PRECIPICE!" Than it is to bother with a whole sentence like, "Oh no watch out for that stairway/curb/step/pothole/etc" because at that point the child has already fallen down. My one and a half year old was walking and all I had to do was call out, "PRECIPICE!" And his fat little baby hands would be straight out to the size and he would stop in his tracks and very carefully toddle around whatever it was that was dangerous until I said, "All clear!" I watched other parents having their kids fall down and smacking their heads on everything and all I had to do is teach my child one word which he pronounced hilariously, "Pess piss!" So yeah, us neurospicy people also love good words because they are precise and they are exactly what we want to use and using an imprecise word just. . . bothers me.
@kalenanichol8375
@kalenanichol8375 4 ай бұрын
​@@josephinethornton3823that's so adorable!!!! As an engineer and an autistic person, I love the efficiency. Also I'm someone who uses "delve" in everyday speech lol. It's not that sophisticated of a word
@Lyricalcandy1982
@Lyricalcandy1982 4 ай бұрын
I didn't realize "delve" was such a complicated word... Smh
@intentionallyleftblank3016
@intentionallyleftblank3016 4 ай бұрын
I know, right? It is literally only one … and a half … syllables!❤
@pvp6077
@pvp6077 4 ай бұрын
It's a 5 letter world that means like, "go into", it's in a famous lotr quote, it comes up in my meditation ads, like??? Kids play Scrabble (or words with friends). They watch videos and listen to podcasts. And where does he think chatgpt learned words from? Does he think ai is magic, trained in a void without human intervention?
@MisterIncog
@MisterIncog 4 ай бұрын
@@pvp6077well, he might’ve had a point about chatgpt, it can learn on sources that aren’t really normal human speech like. There are styles in writing. There are stylistic errors. You’d agree people don’t talk the way documents and contracts are written? Or that you generally shouldn’t use slang in scientific papers? So that’s where he tried to come from. Of course, he only “might’ve had a point” but actually didn’t, as it doesn’t apply to people just using normal words in conversations. Moreover, conversational style is the most error-proof in that sense. You can excuse basically anything style-wise; even though I write before that people usually wouldn’t use official-jurisdictional style in their speech, you wouldn’t be really surprised if some person did use some form of it in their speech (at least, unless you’re that guy from the tweets). Trying to apply stylistic criticism to conversational-informal speech is a very niche goal that is only rationally used, imo, when you criticize some book or story that has character speaking and they way they speak REALLY feels wrong and slaggy, then you’d criticize the writing on the basis of making the reader’s experience worse without reason (and it’s really, extremely rare this is done without a reason).
@KwesiRaphael
@KwesiRaphael 4 ай бұрын
I guess I can now proudly say that I know AND use complicated words. Check me out! 😎
@lkeke35
@lkeke35 4 ай бұрын
When I was a little Black girl in Urban America I was constantly being accused of "talking white"! No, I didn't talk white. We simply spoke standard English in our household because my mother had been an educator, and I talked like the many books I read, not all of which were written by white people. So we still outchere bothering people for speaking regular English Standard except now we're doing it for different reasons?
@notconvincedgranny6573
@notconvincedgranny6573 4 ай бұрын
And the "surprise" that we are so well spoken...
@yachi4702
@yachi4702 4 ай бұрын
I like what you did there, the switch up was smooth like butter ❤❤❤
@DrewKime
@DrewKime 4 ай бұрын
"Using more complicated words than you need isn't using a language better." -> Using bigger words than you need ... Bet I could do this to anything he's ever written.
@kellenschmidt8268
@kellenschmidt8268 4 ай бұрын
This is a really great video and a timely reminder for me, as a white guy reviewing graduate theses and dissertations for a state university. Overcoming my own implicit biases about exactly this sort of thing is just one perk of the job. Thank you for this video.
@chantristrammell6088
@chantristrammell6088 4 ай бұрын
I read at a very advanced level growing up and had a broad vocabulary. It was never acceptable to other and my first professional job required I dilute my vocabulary to the most vulgar of bastardization. It was quite the feat for me. This is one reason I enjoy your content so much, you give my brain a chance to challenge itself.❤
@TonyUrryMakes
@TonyUrryMakes 4 ай бұрын
Same.
@cherylk8781
@cherylk8781 4 ай бұрын
Same
@SansDream6810
@SansDream6810 4 ай бұрын
You may have been hyperlexic!
@chantristrammell6088
@chantristrammell6088 4 ай бұрын
@@SansDream6810 Maybe but I didn't start reading till age 5. If it's common among kids at an older age, it's possible, I guess.
@fariesz6786
@fariesz6786 4 ай бұрын
i had a fairly advanced vocabulary despite never reading (still can't really read - does that make me hypolexic?) fortunately it never really impeded me save for the occasional dumb comment, but it makes me sad to see that i merely got lucky and others are being actively discriminated against for their idiosyncratic use of language 🥲
@brettjohnson536
@brettjohnson536 4 ай бұрын
On the money as always. As white guy that fell into the myth of lingustic snobbery in the past, you have been an incredible teacher in learning about my own unconscious bias, and I hope you keep "delving" into that!
@thecloudysystem
@thecloudysystem 4 ай бұрын
Growing up as a person with developmental disabilities, I heavily resonate with this. I obviously know that it’s much different than a black kids experience growing up, but on this in particular, I feel like the problems are pretty similar. To everyone around me, both my peers and my teachers, I was stupid, but if I spoke with “big words” I was trying to hard and being annoying while trying to appear to not be stupid. Despite the fact that, because of said developmental disabilities, I practically learned to talk from reading, and was always reading well above my grade level, so really the only thing I was doing was just trying to communicate in the way that I learned, the only way I knew how. But nope, I’m a disabled kid, which to them is a bad thing, so I must be dumb, but when I demonstrate I’m not dumb, which is what I was originally being criticized for, I’m all of a sudden a know it all try hard that’s trying to make everyone else feel dumb. Make it make sense. You’re absolutely right, it’s always a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.
@mikochild2
@mikochild2 4 ай бұрын
There's always overlap. No one owns trying to make it in the world. Your experience is just as valid as ours. I learned much of my language from reading as well. I was better with books than people. So now the words and phrases that come out of my mouth are sometimes a combo of everything I read from historical romance to hard sci-fi. I get some really strange looks sometimes 😆 These days, I listen to a lot of litrpg audio books because they are fun and a break for my brain. What did/do you read?
@danielleg8257
@danielleg8257 4 ай бұрын
WTF? I genuinely use delve as a word when applicable🙄 ANYWHO, as always, thanks Sunn❤
@pvp6077
@pvp6077 4 ай бұрын
I literally love delving into rabbitholes of information it's a very useful word. It implies a through exploration, not just a dive in or a brief consideration. And I make jokes about people delving "too deeply and too greedily", literally all the time. I already said it once today before this video. It was on some other channel advertising a show about teenagers disappearing in a coal mine. It seemed very apropos.
@AP1___
@AP1___ 4 ай бұрын
May our erudition know no bounds 👍🏾💛
@TrippxTrapp
@TrippxTrapp 4 ай бұрын
My wife’s English college prof said she used chat gpt for literally this reason, I watched her and her mom work on the assignment the weekend beforehand for almost 4 hours
@reswainjr
@reswainjr 4 ай бұрын
I had a teacher in 7th grade refuse to believe that I was capable of using such words unless I got them from an encyclopedia. This is just another version of that.
@DrewKime
@DrewKime 4 ай бұрын
"... unless I got them from an encyclopedia." Who cares where you got them? Were you using them right? That's really reaching to find a way to call you wrong.
@reswainjr
@reswainjr 4 ай бұрын
@@DrewKime I was using it right. The teacher wanted us to write sentences using our own words. He used his belief that I took the sentences from an encyclopedia to mark me down for the assignment.
@aedes947
@aedes947 4 ай бұрын
Where the teacher thought you would get your "own words"? Like, that's how humans learn most of their vocabulary: somewhere else, be it in conversation or any kind of media. This is the type of situation designed to make you lose even if you had a time machine and could try different answers multiple times.
@reswainjr
@reswainjr 4 ай бұрын
@@aedes947 absolutely. I never got a fair shake from that teacher because he was so set in his ways.
@nakiarebel8019
@nakiarebel8019 4 ай бұрын
I've actually used the term "burgeoning" in speech once. No biggie. When THOSE people say "sounding smart", they themselves are merely bleh and meh.
@matthewbertrand4139
@matthewbertrand4139 4 ай бұрын
it's insane to me that someone could even think that they could independently verify if something is AI-generated with no outside help. most of these people likely have no idea what's going on behind the scenes of an AI like this, but think they're somehow qualified to make that judgment? and like, yeah, nobody typically uses "delve" or "burgeoning" in conversation... but some people do, and moreover, obviously one should expect that a person's written and spoken voices, along with their casual and professional voices, can be different. this is such basic stuff that it feels like anyone who's throwing out papers based on a word they didn't expect _must_ know what they're doing. thanks for making this video. i considered myself decently informed on the problems with the current AI scene, but hadn't considered this one at all.
@clearlieme
@clearlieme 4 ай бұрын
Having grown from a little impoverished girl who read The Hobbit at age 5, because books were my escapism - Oh no, I'm in trouble.
@MzUpliftingTea
@MzUpliftingTea 4 ай бұрын
Black girl GenXer who LIVED on Nancy Drew and then V C Andrews (in middle school 😂😳 I had older siblings, so I stole their books) I felt this comment all the way back to my jellies and braids with the beads. ❤🎉❤🎉
@br3669
@br3669 4 ай бұрын
Add incompetence to the linguicism: Chat GPT is designed to predict at every point the *most likely* word or phrase that human-generated speech or text would use at that point. If you think you can detect AI because it uses one particular word you *don't* expect, you don't know a thing about AI, or about how people speak, or both.
@thevnsdrkangl
@thevnsdrkangl 4 ай бұрын
I'm sometimes asked how I know words...and every time the question leaves me speechless. It's taken a lot of growth to become comfortable with all I know and don't know I'd hate for my children to need to dumb themselves down to get ahead.
@jessicawalton3497
@jessicawalton3497 4 ай бұрын
"Delve" is a complicated word??? Yikes.
@TonyUrryMakes
@TonyUrryMakes 4 ай бұрын
I savor the use of “big words” used well. It feels good in my ear. An early addiction to reading and a lifelong celebration of dialect differences has allowed me to enjoy effective communication thoroughly. The damned if you do and damned if you don’t idiocy you describe ( and I have witnessed ) is infuriating. I am a-feared that Diana Moon Gompers and Marjorie Taylor Greene’s of the world are now the arbiters of intellect.
@BLACKONCODE2024
@BLACKONCODE2024 4 ай бұрын
They are exhausting🤦🏽‍♂️
@sknkpop
@sknkpop 4 ай бұрын
I went through a period in my young-adulthood where I was a language fetishist (often wrong, as pointed out in all of your language videos). There was an unconscious, pseudo-academic, elitism in my behaviour. At the time it never occurred to me that the behaviour was also affixed to the foundation of classism and white supremacy. On my part I think there was a deep insecurity at work. I'd grown up piss-poor. I was convinced that I had to "overcome" everything about what I was born into it, and that meant capitulating to that cultural norm.
@teresaabrown8077
@teresaabrown8077 4 ай бұрын
It's all about erasing and confusing😮😮. So sad😢😢
@DianaTheLance
@DianaTheLance 4 ай бұрын
I definitely have to check myself on this type of thing from time to time. I'll read an esoteric word and start to get judgy about them using pompous language only to remember that my casual vocabulary includes words like "esoteric" and "pompous" and they feel normal for me because I'm used to hearing myself say them.
@SylviaRustyFae
@SylviaRustyFae 4 ай бұрын
My neurodivergence def makes my speech at times very nonstandard; even when not considerin the ways i type diff than most A lot of times my brain just pulls a word out of its vast recesses that is a very exactly correct word for the thing im describin; but also a word that makes ppl think im "showin off" when im just sayin the words that come to my mind A lot of times ill legit blank on a rather obvs word and all my brain will pull up for me is a word that wud make someone like this more sus of me; wud make them think im up to smth or an AI or otherwise substandard of their expectations
@Gesceap
@Gesceap 4 ай бұрын
Modern linguistics only cares about observable facts, descriptivism. Conservative norms only care about "correctness", prescriptivism. Let's just accept that language was spoken first and written second. An ever evolving speech community has no limits.
@katiereed5038
@katiereed5038 4 ай бұрын
I failed a project I was very proud of once because my teacher flagged it for plagiarism. He had mentioned that as a concern at the very beginning and I, with a brain that takes things very seriously/literally, specifically and laboriously said everything in a different way than how it was when I found it. That was a lot of work, I learned a lot, and it was different enough that the teacher thought I was lying about my sources at the end. It was flagged because, "why would a grade seven girl write like she swallowed a thesaurus?" And he refused to give me any marks, even though I proved to know the meaning of all the words I used, because I had done such a good job trying not to copy anything that he thought I was lying about sources. Not a great intro to academic honesty. I like big words. They can be fun, idiosyncratic, and increase the available amount of meanings with which to face the world. My favorite is when people nab something a little archaic to bring back into their personal circulation of lived language. I find a lot of joy in that. None of this, including the odd and contradictory beauty of punctuation, should ever be held up as an enemy against what one of my teachers memorably called "informal" English. I'm cheering for end of the white knuckled grip that white and moneyed English has on the world of learning. There's finna be all sorts of interesting problem-solving involved by people who really love words. And that's awesome.
@pseudonym6387
@pseudonym6387 4 ай бұрын
*Delve* is too fancy to plausibly be used without it being suspected of being ChatGPT? You can't go near things like basic fantasy literature without encountering that word all the time. Is this guy suspicious of kids reading?
@MzUpliftingTea
@MzUpliftingTea 4 ай бұрын
Thank you from a kid who read 📚 voraciously (guess CHAT wrote my comment). These ppl are EXHAUSTING!! 🤯🤦🤦
@jojoone1099
@jojoone1099 3 ай бұрын
One of my daughter's HS English teachers said that my daughter wrote like a sophomore in college. He had skepticism in his voice. I called him out, but I wish I had done more with his administrators. Those microagressions can kill our children's spirits.
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 4 ай бұрын
The idea that we can detect an AI that is trained to talk like real people ... Is just silly. It's way harder to mimic pictures, but text is pretty easy. It's already not possible to tell if it's ChatGPT or just regular corporate drivel 😂 Also I can just tell the AI to talk in a specific way, and that throws it all off.
@sierraalice8072
@sierraalice8072 4 ай бұрын
Delve is such a regular ass word
@MShardy5
@MShardy5 4 ай бұрын
It is all about not taking the time to write or taking the time to read by both students and teachers. Sometimes the student rushed out an assignment, other times the teacher rushed out a grade. Learning takes time and teaching takes patience. We never seem to have enough of either to hear or read what is being said or written. That, of course, assumes both parties want to.
@PoetDarkling
@PoetDarkling 4 ай бұрын
I have an M.A. in English/Creative Writing, but I've learned so much more here from you in the year or so since I discovered your channel than all of my years in school. Thank you. ❤
@imeaniguess.6963
@imeaniguess.6963 4 ай бұрын
True, I put an essay in an ai checker once, and it marked it as suspicious. 😂 It said there was a more than 50% chance that an AI wrote it.
@1cosmicdebris
@1cosmicdebris 4 ай бұрын
I am black as can be and I MOST DEFINITELY USE THE WORD DELVE IN SPOKEN CONVERSATION. I just got all perturbed and wrote in all caps... 🙄 everyone uses the damn language differently. I'm so over humans. But I have to remember, there's no good that can come from being a misanthrope!!!
@alfiegrace
@alfiegrace 4 ай бұрын
I have had people say to me with a completely straight face, “I had no idea that you would even know that word, let alone use it correctly.” 🙄🙄🙄 My response has been on more than one occasion, “Believe it or not, I am not some unlettered troglodyte” and walk away leaving them standing there with their mouth agape.
@daileywinterprincess
@daileywinterprincess 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 I use "complicated"/ "big" words at various times depending on what I am trying to communicate. Just because someone or something isn't up to par doesn’t mean I have to be subpar.
@BlueberryBricks
@BlueberryBricks 4 ай бұрын
I'm reminded of this weird exchange at university where white students talked about the ONE BLACK MAN in our program as "the whitest black person" they had ever met. All he ever did to earn that statement was to talk like them bc he was a nerd, like the rest of us. That shit gave me some hard cringe vibes. Dogged if you do, dogged if you don't indeed.
@twig8523
@twig8523 4 ай бұрын
Whoa! I think Sunn just gave me some insight into how I developed such an eclectically verbose vocabulary, even though I never would've graduated high school if it weren't for taking the same SPED English course all 4 years, & my amazing teacher Mrs. Sides. 🖤
@MisterIncog
@MisterIncog 4 ай бұрын
Imagine posting a whole thread of tweets about people being too smart because you saw the word “delve” in an email. Couldn’t be more real about non-native speakers. Another thing I’d like to add, not only people might use “big” non-standard words because they learned the language written-first, but they also often think in a way they used to and use words that aren’t even considered big in their native language. For example, the word “erudite” is a completely normal word in my language, I remember we had a very popular show similar to jeopardy that was called “erudition”, so even kids (who loved watching tv) knew this word and its derivatives.
@PanEtRosa
@PanEtRosa 4 ай бұрын
man, I thought there was going to be something about how the usage was actually semantically unfitting. but nope, literally just "uncommon words = AI". Paul really hung himself out on the thinnest branch he could find and decided to take his stand there.
@DaughterofDiogenes
@DaughterofDiogenes 3 ай бұрын
I’m so shocked to see this. I’m AuDHD, black, woman, grew up in poverty and believed the lie that being more educated than everyone else will get you far in life. I have to hide my intellect on a daily basis just to get by now even my attempts to progress will be thwarted by losers who are threatened by my vocabulary. 😡
@canadagirl7157
@canadagirl7157 4 ай бұрын
Many poor kids (including me) spent a lot of time in the public library when I was younger (in the 90's/early 00's, maybe it's different now). By the start of high school I had read most of the fiction books in my town library, a lot of which were written pre-20th century. I'm sure I wasn't the only one. Reading's free, and it's an escape.
@davidross2004
@davidross2004 4 ай бұрын
When I saw the original post, it irked me. Now I know why. Thank you, Sunn! 👊🏾
@aliceangl3563
@aliceangl3563 4 ай бұрын
The idea that "using big, fancy words means ChatGPT wrote it" is kinda ridiculous. For starters, plenty of people have proven that teachers don't always catch ChatGPT written Essays. But sure Bud, "Delve" means Chat GPT wrote it. Sure Paul.
@thetimekeeper955
@thetimekeeper955 4 ай бұрын
Not exactly the same, but when I get into arguments with people in YT comments, there often comes a point where I'm ridiculed for using "big words" (though for now, no one has accused me of using an AI writer) to try to sound impressive. When I tell them I've been a writer for _x_ years (almost thirty now) and as a result have a vocabulary to match, that has so far shut them up. But the fact remains that they're either a) trying to shame me into silence, or b) implicitly admitting that they don't know the words I use and are confused because of it. So for all of you who have had this sort of thing happen to you, keep that in mind.
@RamenNoodle1985
@RamenNoodle1985 4 ай бұрын
Oh God someone posted this Paul dude on r/murderedbywords the other day cause the further his twitter thread went, the more he resorted to using big words (and screwing them up) 😂
@SunyaFolayan
@SunyaFolayan 4 ай бұрын
I'Il NEVER forget the racist professor who flagged my paper because I used the word "flamboyant" Really?? At that moment I knew what I was dealingnwith.
@Demerarachica
@Demerarachica 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for articulating this in the way you did, because I was struggling to communicate to others just how peeved I get with this latest assertion (all up and down my timelines and feeds) that 'real' people (according to X person's narrow circle and perception of who is a 'real' person) don't speak, read or write properly. Then I realised that some wouldn't understand my attempts anyway because this viewpoint is one of comforting and reassuring themselves... There are 5 letters in the word 'delve'. It is not a 'big' word, IMO... 🤷🏾‍♀️
@pulsefel9210
@pulsefel9210 4 ай бұрын
There is a lot of times ill feel like using a big word i know but stop and use a simpler or break it up instead. Just feels odd to use the big ones sometimes even when they are spot on and what i use instead is only close.
@patriciabronk1786
@patriciabronk1786 4 ай бұрын
Great point. Thank you Sunn.
@FurikoMaru
@FurikoMaru 4 ай бұрын
Honestly the notion that 'proper' English is a sign of using AI is fucking laughable. These programs don't know if they're coming or going; there's a reason I mute them every time I start using a new word processor.
@Draekrio
@Draekrio 4 ай бұрын
Wow this hurts to hear, I didn't even know this was a minority stereotype. How can people genuinely believe people lack vocabulary just because they'd prefer to use their local dialect slangs or colloquialisms when speaking to one another?
@celondelon351
@celondelon351 4 ай бұрын
Language is forever changing and growing it’s a creative medium and that’s a beautiful thing ❤
@yehooyahoo6861
@yehooyahoo6861 4 ай бұрын
EXACTLY. Irregardless of whether we know ‘big words’ or speak in geographical slang; we’re going to be suspect. From everyone. Now words that would have gotten you fired ten years ago are suddenly in commercials. Some of our own will shut you down and have you quiet because you ‘talk white’ in their eyes. Pinkies who insist they grasp English better than immigrants and black people are somehow able to use ‘ain’t’ when they’re mocking us. Blaccents abound meanwhile your boss pretends ‘sis’ is too informal for a meeting. It’s gangland bro.
@mswetra2610
@mswetra2610 4 ай бұрын
Oohh you ain't lyin!!!!
@jeremyhennessee6604
@jeremyhennessee6604 4 ай бұрын
I wish the only thing that mattered was that people understood each other when they spoke (regardless of what accent, or words they chose). But I guess that's seen as pretty naive. I love language. Always have, probably always will. I wish I had the time to learn all of em. amazing video (per usual) sir. peace man.
@pamcunningham9608
@pamcunningham9608 4 ай бұрын
How incredibly frustating. For years folks have struggled and worked hard to be able to be seen as intelligent/educated and "worthwhile", especially in the job market. Now people are dismissing any written correspondence or documents with "Oh, they just used ChatGPT"? That's just awful. There really is no winning, sadly.
@Thescholarlysavage
@Thescholarlysavage 4 ай бұрын
OMG! Delve is a big word now? My job requires me to "deep dive" multiple issues daily.
@tylerpurrden
@tylerpurrden 4 ай бұрын
So now if someone sounds literate, they'll be accused of using chatGPT? Wtf 🤦‍♂️
@VestaBlackclaw
@VestaBlackclaw 4 ай бұрын
It hadn't even clicked that my hard lean into wordiness and prickliness about myself being accurate was partly gendered, but considering how my speech and writing was picked apart and hypercritiqued but the boys I knew never dealt with that, it makes sense. I had a high reading level and the way that I write is....very non-standard? I guess? I use a lot of old words and I don't phrase things in a "modern" way I guess, because I'm constantly getting flagged and corrected by the likes of Google and Grammarly. But I just thought it was the media I consumed, I hadn't even considered that I'd have an inclination to it regardless because of what was discussed. Crazy stuff, making me rethink a lot of my focus in English when I was a kid!
@tlrcarroll
@tlrcarroll 4 ай бұрын
Funnily enough, I had someone adamantly tell me that the phrase “funnily enough” didn’t exist and I was “stupid”. 🥴 Until around 100 people under my comment told him that it is in fact a very well known phrase. 🤭🤭
@RAWouthere
@RAWouthere 3 ай бұрын
If I had a dollar for every time….boyyyyyy….Rihanna rich, I tell you! Loaded. My fave was when I was testing for ADHD (which is made up of like 5 different tests, including an IQ test), the person administering the test got distracted by all my correct answers and started asking me random stuff. He gave up when he asked me who wrote Faust, and my response was to spell the name of the author. Test ended. Totally ADHD, but still scored in the top one percent of vocabulary and information. Guys….sometimes we just know stuff. It’s gonna be ok! 😂
@adey126
@adey126 4 ай бұрын
Bruh they can’t even delve into the differences between slavery and chattel slavery aka the one only the US used at the time.
@imdatdude53
@imdatdude53 3 ай бұрын
I recall the accolades I received for being the only kid in my junior high school class who knew without hesitance or reservation what the word incognito meant.....got called into the counselors office because of all things, that one simple common word somehow signaled to them I was smart and had been overlooked until that point......I thought it was comedy
@candicerenee8939
@candicerenee8939 4 ай бұрын
In a world where the most people write is in a text message or a social media caption range of vocabulary suffers. Makes me think of the judge who told me to stop talking smart when making my case. Guess I didn’t use enough Ebonics for her liking. 😒
@k.c1126
@k.c1126 4 ай бұрын
Having delved a little into chatgpt, I've found the ai gives itself away more from use of details and 'voice' than from use of specific words. And delve is iirc grade 6 or 7 vocabulary....
@nicholashall3117
@nicholashall3117 4 ай бұрын
Odious is my favorite word that white folk think I don't know.
@euclid47pha
@euclid47pha 4 ай бұрын
I've toyed with chatgpt in regard to biblical hebrew linguistics. I wanted to see if it were able to manage scholarly information as well as to find out if it could manage some common errors and misconceptions. It couldn't. In fact after about 30 minutes it said that I was right and apologized. One shouldn't put too much stock into it, and as the brother eluded to... WE ARE SMARTER THAN THAT💪🏿✊🏿
@fariesz6786
@fariesz6786 4 ай бұрын
there are so many things that hurt about OP's "red flag" approach.. • i've definitely heard "delve into" and "burgeoning" spoken by a lot of people on KZbin. sure, those aren't ex-tempore uses of those words but the subject in question was apparently a novel anyway, so.. what's the deal? (btw. i see the sarcastic potential in my usage of "ex-tempore" here and i embrace it - i'm L2, and a non-verbal thinker.. i won't bother wrecking my head over finding a better was to phrase that) • the idea that suspicions or red-flags are like a one-shot kill-switch kind of thing.. that's just bottom-of-the-barrel lazy imho. get to know your material or the person you're talking to ffs. • sure, he may have had his spidey senses triggered and this was one of the more salient (← did it again, didn't i?) features so he honed in on it, but instead of saying «there was more than just the use of "delve" i just used it as one example» our brother doubled down on pretending that one word made all the difference. • sometimes people have speech quirks, idiosyncracies, bc it's their thing, bc they find it funny or cool, or bc the picked some word or phrase up and it's currently living in their head rent-free until they either get bored of it or made fun of (which is also not cool btw - try not to be that person who makes fun of speech quirks) • there's a difference between «i think it'd sound better if you used word XYZ here» - i.e. what an editor or someone teaching writing would say - and policing language as allegedly not being correct or situationally appropriate. what also bugs me is that those language police people are also right the front when it comes to abusing ostensibly polite language in order to express hard disapproval and other nasty stuff like that. something that again disenfranchises already disenfranchised people bc they may not have undergone the intiation rituals to know if that weird code means that you actually did good or that you are considered an absolute failure. and the thing with non-standard on the other hand not being good enough just makes me angry. it's oppressive, it's aggressive, it's told with a smile which disguises the cruel intent to those who can't read it and feels not like politeness but an insult through pretentiousness to those who do understand it. i personally was fortunate that it didn't affect me much, but seeing how i mere got away as one of the lucky ones makes me deeply sad.
@Exclusive12144
@Exclusive12144 4 ай бұрын
You come correct all the time!
@GillamtheGreatest
@GillamtheGreatest 4 ай бұрын
anyone who is skeptical of the word delve aint never delved into an entire ass tub of icecream, and therefore their opinion is moot
@ahfimiwonawun
@ahfimiwonawun 4 ай бұрын
I’ve used the word delve. How is that a “big word” or a word that he thinks people only use when they’re writing and want to sound clever? It’s 5 letters long like the word “dummy”, but with less syllables… I’m guessing HE saw that word and didn’t recognize it, delved into a dictionary to find its definition, felt stupid like a dummy & needs reassurance that he wasn’t the only dummy, so that he can get back to feeling normal again.
@ohdamnman
@ohdamnman 4 ай бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you many times over thank you the good Lord God above knows how many times I've been this person and did not know what to do
@sandraodell610
@sandraodell610 4 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@fyzxnerd
@fyzxnerd 4 ай бұрын
Indistinguishable excrement, variant periodic rotation of celestial bodies.
@ibsulon
@ibsulon 4 ай бұрын
Just one thing... I've always heard "delve into (or in to)" rather than "delve in" with regard to a subject (e.g. a conversation.) Sunn is an expert here, so it has me questioning myself. Are both right? Have others heard both?
@TocYounger
@TocYounger 4 ай бұрын
Both are correct, depending on context. They are conjugations of the verb "delving" thus, they will vary depending on tense and verb/subject accord.
@sunnmcheaux
@sunnmcheaux 4 ай бұрын
I think you're missing my point about NOT adhering to standardization of language. 🫤
@SylviaRustyFae
@SylviaRustyFae 4 ай бұрын
​@@sunnmcheaux sm this, delve in2 usin the words without one regard for anyones idea of whats right or wrong; just use the words as ya feel okay usin them, howevs that may be
@TonyUrryMakes
@TonyUrryMakes 4 ай бұрын
@@sunnmcheaux😂
@sunnmcheaux
@sunnmcheaux 4 ай бұрын
Right. I literally included "delve into" in the subtitles because *I knew* that "delve in" was going to be a sticking point for some folks. I didn't do a retake of that line because it doesn't bother *me*. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@onthespectrumpod
@onthespectrumpod 4 ай бұрын
I had hyperlexia and was made fun of by other kids. I've changed the way I communicate over the years to make other people comfortable. I tried to adopt colloquialiss and use more slang. I sounded too much like an Android I guess. My "big words" were weird to them. Or I came across as a smart ass. That's on you. 😂 The sad part is
@burnblue
@burnblue 4 ай бұрын
Delve is literally 5 letters one syllable. It's not one of those big words with a much easier way to say the same thing... it really is __the__ word for what it means. How would he replace "delve"?
@aholmes3129
@aholmes3129 4 ай бұрын
CATCH 22😮😮😮
@rockinslugz
@rockinslugz 4 ай бұрын
I know it's not the point of the video, but we also definitely need back-end access to AI generation, or something like that so people can better tell real from artificial.
@pandorahunter
@pandorahunter 4 ай бұрын
@evanlinden4410
@evanlinden4410 4 ай бұрын
I’m palm-colored, but I was accused of plagiarism for above my level language in high school. My suspicion is it was because of my disability
@tamarlambert6121
@tamarlambert6121 4 ай бұрын
Using English words in English is suspicious......hmmmmmmmmmm
@sassyevans5116
@sassyevans5116 4 ай бұрын
Yeees 😂😂😂😂
@diealovesveggies1762
@diealovesveggies1762 4 ай бұрын
Delve isn't a commonly used word?
@AutisticAthena
@AutisticAthena 4 ай бұрын
May I supply the shovel?
@joelhaggis5054
@joelhaggis5054 4 ай бұрын
What the fuck is wrong with delve? Are we gatekeeping individual words now????
@nahoo7748
@nahoo7748 4 ай бұрын
I’m curious about his thoughts on the black American heritage flag
@ThatAutisticBlackMan
@ThatAutisticBlackMan 4 ай бұрын
As someone autistic who has a love for words and the origin, I don't use them to trip you up but to start a conversation on a subject I'm fond of without being a creep throwing words at you. When you ask what does "requiem" mean, Im able to expound and it feel natural than just rambling facts about my latest word. I made this comment as simple as possible with a tendency to ramble for fear of being misunderstood and it becoming a Ted Talk.
@ragvrai
@ragvrai 4 ай бұрын
I only understood half of what you said but keep preaching 🫡💯🗿😂
@chickenpants
@chickenpants 4 ай бұрын
This sounds just another method to screw over the already marginalised.
@SexyShuffla98
@SexyShuffla98 4 ай бұрын
Interesting, as I utilize "delve" more often than not , and actually despise Chat GPT because I love the art of writing. These people are sick fr lol. Anything to downplay our intellect, I reckon. 😂😂 Let me warn my 21 year old son that his use of the word 'whilst' might be questioned in Corporate America. 🤣😩🙄 As my Granny would say, "plumb dumb!" #WeOutchea
@TickleMeAmber84
@TickleMeAmber84 4 ай бұрын
This causing flashbacks to junior high when I was an “ Oreo” because my name is Amber and I didn’t speak slang, and used big words. 😢
@nicholashall3117
@nicholashall3117 4 ай бұрын
Odious is my favorite word that white folk think I don't know.
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