Dementus Vs Joe Negotiation Scene | FURIOSA: A MAD MAX SAGA (2024) Movie CLIP HD

[@TemplarX2]

That guy Dementus killed was a great asset to humanity. The guy was replicating old artworks and even had telephones. He was basically the wasteland Davinci.

[@MrVlad12340]

He probably was twisted like Joe, People Eater and Bullet Farmer BUT i would genuinely vouch for keeping him alive solely based off his amazing artistic skills.

[@piplup2009]

@@MrVlad12340 He also kept gastown running

[@Crackshotsteph]

@@MrVlad12340 Its the apocalypse man everyone is twisted, even those who controlled Bartertown in Mad Max 3 Thunderdome.

[@LarryXLR]

He painted them out of a textbook and then probably lied about the origin of the original paintings

[@justtocatta4479]

exactly, his death only reaffirms the injustice of the wasteland, no matter if you are a genius or not, your death will be just as violent as anyone there

[@Maxisamo1]

You could really tell Hemsworth was having a blast playing such a backwards version of what he normally plays

[@indo4954]

Good, the marvel shit is beneath him at this point

[@edwardhannah8507]

@@indo4954 Marvel? I don't understand that reference.

[@indo4954]

@@edwardhannah8507 hes basically only know for being thor, which his portrayal is very one dimensional and not interesting. Not his fault, its the writing

[@edwardhannah8507]

@@indo4954 dude I was making a reference from Avengers lol when Thor says "I don't understand" and Cap says "I do! I understood that reference" 😆

[@phoenixrising9785]

Hemsworth should really start focusing on more roles like this. Get out from the Marvel influence

[@Ghost-fv6lw]

"She looks nothing like you 🤨" I love how the immortan Joe already knew something was up 😂

[@Dukesparrow1999]

Really showcases his intelligence and ability to sniff out BS

[@charlie1486]

Given he is a former Australian Military Colonel, aswell as his intelligence, I'm not surprised that someone of his status and power is able to instantly detect BS without saying much.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@charlie1486 As a Colonel he had been dealing with the E4 mafia (or AUS equivalent) for years and knows how to spot shennanigans XD

[@darkforge633]

@@MrJustonemorevoice LOL, oh good lord I haven't heard that saying in years. There are days I miss being in the military.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@darkforge633 Immortan Joe : *Angry admin noises* 😎

[@criticalbill2090]

Dementus walked into that meeting with the intention of ripping off Immortan Joe, but left with no medic, no "daughter" and no nipples! Big win for Joe

[@zjjohnson3827]

You can see at 4:53 that he wants to throw a tantrum, but realizes that he’s dead if he does so, and has to fight to keep his toddlerish rage in check while trying to act tough to save face in front of his men that he promised double rations to and now can’t deliver

[@rusamene]

What a day what a deal

[@solidmario64]

Loses his nipples, that is quite painful. Even the People Eater thought so. XD

[@michaelchallen]

@@solidmario64I think he'd have been on the floor. I well remember my wife scream when our daughter bit her nipple during breast feeding..

[@williampoole1742]

Yea when this scene concluded, it kinda annoyed me, because they didn't get hardly any of what they negotiated for, should have at least gotten more food in general instead of just more potatoes

[@ryahanse8031]

The “genetic absurdities” line was probably the best in the movie, well delivered

[@aaronchristiansoriano9889]

Yo! Finally someone thinks the same 😂😂😂

[@EricGori]

I spit out my food when he said that. Accidentally, almost choked from laughing!

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Yes, along with ''YOU look pale'', it was so petulant and hilarious, and Dementus was right 😂

[@Cryogenics12]

I was dying lolololol

[@dazzle4593]

This whole speech is absoulute gold

[@MarcYanruw]

"She looks pale" "You look pale!" 😂😂😂

[@phamcuong9154]

You know what ? Dementus had a good point.

[@CashMoolah00]

“ No she’s is not for sale, she’s mine” I found his delivery of all his lines comical but its just the wasteland has made him insane or as he said “ fragile brain”.

[@DenBoy4]

She's PERFECT 🤍 ʕ ꈍᴥꈍʔ

[@Wintermute01001]

NO U!

[@voidw4lker]

He so pale.

[@AdudenamedVince]

What I like about Dementus is that he was just smart and charismatic enough to cause trouble for all the major factions, but not smart enough that he could take over. He just rode into town and made everything worse for a decade or so.

[@kentinson1670]

He was also a great general enough to trouble Joe but unfortunately he's a terrible tactician and a poor politician. The fact that he couldn't sustain the citizens of Gastown and his own men means he was always destined to lose in the long run

[@gwpeoples]

Joe wasn't such a good leader himself. Remember by the time of Fury Road his empire was in serious decline, long after Dementus was out of the picture.

[@3du4rdo.]

Furiosa: silence for 30 min Immortan Joe: Is he your father ? Furiosa: No Dementus: Oh for fuck sake

[@m33a]

i dislike her for that

[@oneyedthing]

@@m33a You just got carried away by Hemsworth Thor's aura. Joe is the lesser evil and has a more reasonable living conditions. More decent than her current situation living in a cage. A little freedom means she can have more opportunity to escape

[@hamiltonp.oliveira7839]

​@@m33aIn all fairness, the guy really killed her mother, she has every reason to deslike him.

[@awesomness36]

@@m33awell that’s stupid

[@LesangdesdieuX]

@@m33a He did too and sold her for that xD

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

Immortan Joe was a pretty good villain in Fury Road, but this movie made him a legend. Guy just stole every scene he was in and really sold that larger-than-life aura of an absolute ruler. He seemed kind of unhinged in Fury Road, but here we got a glimpse of the cold-blooded genius he was.

[@thewhompingwampa2671]

"Kind of unhinged." My brother in Christ, that man's door was no longer connected to the hinges with how feverishly he was tracking down The War Rig.

[@weenercarguy4100]

Whats insane was Immortan joe was losing against Dementus, if it was not for Furiosa Immortan Joe probably would have lost, the Horde had guns and climbing ropes, not much the war boys could actually do if they got the horde on the top of the mountains fully stocked up

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

@@thewhompingwampa2671 Booty is more important than water. Joe was just an acolyte of the Booty Warrior himself.

[@MeadowGreen-j4e]

mostly agree, but i do like the vocal work better in fury road.

[@crazyjames1233]

@@weenercarguy4100 Not necessarily. After they took the Bullet Farm and appeared to be on their way to the Citadel he suspected something was up when he said "its fake, theres no possible advantage." When Furiosa burst in that basically cleared it up for him. Not sure what he might have done if she wasnt there but I suspect he would have sent out a recon squad to scout things out before attacking like his sons wanted to.

[@matthewglover8804]

Immortal Joe is seriously intimidating in this movie,the voice combined with the outfit and most importantly that focused death stare....SHEESH!!

[@matthewglover8804]

Immortan Joe** (damn autocorrect)

[@SunDogGod]

I think he was better in the first movie, he comes off as standoffish and too patient

[@romansionis2470]

@@SunDogGod I thought this version was better. He was shown as a smart and competent leader here, and him coming off as patient is imo better than the previous movie where we only get to see him lose his cool and take decisions that would eventually lead to his death.

[@avivlamech-kalambi519]

​@@romansionis2470I agree with you. Maybe I'm missing the point behind the character in Fury Road but I find his composure in this film much more charismatic, as a leader should be.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

If you're gonna play the immortan to gotta have the EYES.

[@byronhorde5892]

This film was so much better than what the box-office numbers suggest.

[@markofcain2324]

In slight bits it was, but the constant narrative pushing killed the overarching story. The original "Fury Road" at least had a bit more to offer than "Men bad". Though it also spewed that garbage, it did so with much more subtlety.

[@anarkistogre]

@@markofcain2324 I think you're a bit touched

[@mack-uv6gn]

Agreed

[@thetalentof]

Box office numbers are never an indication of a movie's quality though. If you create your watchlist accordingly, you'll have some severe disappointments in store.

[@amdi8966]

have a feeling “slight bit” describes your manhood 😂

[@osimothobi2972]

"...I'll take this girl who is not your daughter , and also him... otherwise, it's war."

[@AllfatherBlack]

take note of the warboyz for every second theyre shown, theyre ready to go. in the face off moment you can see one frames up right behind dementus before the speech

[@avivlamech-kalambi519]

I preferred Immortan Joe in this movie rather than in Fury Road. He seems much more composed and threatening.

[@henningeide8355]

Freaky pickup line

[@Dukesparrow1999]

Classic take what's mine, I take what's yours negotiation technique

[@gmatsue84]

@@avivlamech-kalambi519 Well he didn't have time for any of that in Fury Road, but here we find out why he was the leader

[@Viking.warrior.94]

i have to say, i thought i was gonna hate the younger Joe, but i actually love him

[@aluminumsalmongames6277]

A pity his original actor couldn't reprise the role, for obvious reasons. But this fella did an excellent job.

[@Catarssis347]

@@aluminumsalmongames6277He actually nailed the portrayal of a younger inmortan joe.

[@MorallyDubiousFrog]

I agree. It was cool seeing him as a competent warlord. He knows the production of the Citadel well enough to know what can be sustained, and later he quickly orders guzzling rationing once Dementus tries to cut him off. He also successfully tricks Dementus into attacking a prepared Citadel thanks to Furiosa’s warning, and handily crushes the Biker Horde in the 40 day war.

[@thisbubblygoodness7611]

plus the new actor also plays the one-eyed lieutenant for Dementus, the actor was literally playing two different characters in one setting

[@Thisisaweirdthing2makeusdo]

Agreed he was fantastic. I honestly think the whole cast was pretty amazing. This movie is great ❤

[@G.Lonnie]

I love how it takes Rizzdale Pell announcing their intention to blow up Gastown for Joe to finally turn around and look at his visitors. And he’s just got this look like “Excuse me?”

[@jackallope2200]

And the fact he doesn't say shit until he spots Furiosa. There was never a single second of this where he actually took Dementus seriously

[@WTFisTingispingis]

"These idiots can't be serious."

[@romansionis2470]

@@jackallope2200 Clearly he got serious when they said that they'd blow up Gastown lol

[@alc4117]

Immortan Joe is was one of the most beautifully designed villains of the 21st century.

[@moytheboy22]

Yeah and this movie casted a shadow on his legacy.

[@showtimejojo274]

@@moytheboy22what? He was great in this it was cool seeing a younger more competent immortan joe

[@doriane2032]

How?​@@moytheboy22

[@moytheboy22]

@@showtimejojo274 Joe was great here but the movie as a whole was mid. Poor writing, pacing, and cringey at times.

[@moytheboy22]

@@doriane2032 Joe was great here but the movie as a whole was mid. Poor writing, pacing, and cringey at times. I loved Furioisa’s character too but everything else was bad and rushed.

[@herrsiemes7094]

5:45 - i genuinely believe that Immortan was trying his absolute hardest not to burst into laughter right then and there. Not only did he completely rip off dementus but he also took his pureborn "daughter" and their groups most valuable medic all while letting Dementus think he was the sole Winner of the meeting 💀

[@michaellarsen3629]

Not to mention the increased rations aren't enough to support all of GasTown AND Dementus' biker hoard. Joe sowed the seeds of Dementus' defeat in like 30 seconds lol.

[@NiceTryLaoChe]

If there's any takeaway from this film, it's that Immortan Joe was genuinely pretty good at what he did and Dementus was just a goofy pretender.

[@xyaeiounn]

@@NiceTryLaoChe Not necessarily a pretender, he was competent and strong. Just not as high quality. Warlords having flaws and needs can make a story fly.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

@@NiceTryLaoChe He was shockingly capable as a warlord, losing his wives to his top imperator must've _REALLY_ hit a nerve with how unhinged he acted in Fury Road.

[@MainTopmastStaysail]

@@NiceTryLaoChe Dementus was a good warlord but a bad leader.

[@MikeMJPMUNCH]

I love how Dementus' beard braids matches Immortan Joe's pipes coming from his mask

[@miloshp7399]

Roman Emperors Code

[@EGRJ]

He's always stealing ideas from people.

[@kaze987]

When at 2:55 the Organic Mechanic says she is untouched by man or disease, Dementus gives him a look and shakes he head...completely missed that the first time I watched in theatre! Wow, Dementus didn't want to give her up

[@AllfatherBlack]

amazing, i didnt catch that. resolves that question eh :/

[@ChristianHMA]

But it makes no sense to bring her to this meeting except if he planned to sell her…

[@jonathanmartin1654]

He was faking it so Joe can think he got him beat in the deal but dementus thinks bringing her will encourage Joe to accept the deal.

[@mirror8519]

@@ChristianHMA Do you think she'll be safer with the degenerates that follow Dementus? He wanted to protect her and the best way to do that was if she was in his presence, that's also why he had the organic mechanic and history man with him.

[@alextrill5829]

@@ChristianHMA as we saw earlier in the movie, he drags her everywhere with him, for sentimental value. Plus there's always risk of someone raping her or her trying to run away if he leaves her behind.

[@mzytryck]

After seeing Immortan Joe being persistently blinded by his obsession in Fury Road, it was great to see him in this film and find out how he was able to rule in the first place; by being a bloody competent warlord. I love the way Dementus' crew are congratulating him afterwards (apparently sincerely) for his "beautifully played" and "peak"... loss of his adopted daughter (who has enormous sentimental value), loss of the best/only doctor they have (enormous practical value), and gain of... peace instead of a war (that Dementus had a decent chance of winning, as he genuinely IS good at surprise tactics!) and a third more water and a quarter more potatoes (instead of the double of everything they were demanding at the start). It makes it so clear that Dementus and his crew are totally outclassed, even if you haven't seen Fury Road so don't know that Immortan Joe is destined to still be in control of the Citadel decades later. It gets even better if you also suspect (like I do) that Joe deliberately planted the seeds of Dementus' loss of control in Gastown. We can assume that Joe knows exactly how much water and food the Gastown workers needed to be productive slaves (he's been running shipments to them for years, after all), and could make a reasonable estimate of how much Dementus' horde would need to be content having seen its size earlier (thanks for that show of strength, Dementus, that was really useful info!) so him giving Dementus a third more water and a quarter more potatoes might well have been calculated to avoid immediate death and conflict by mass dehydration while ensuring that there wasn't enough food to feed both the workers and Dementus' huge horde without putting them onto starvation rations that would inevitably cause discontent and disintegration over time. If so, then that stare Joe is sending him at 5:55 isn't a glower of hatred, there would probably be a triumphant smile under his mask as he watches this upstart swagger around and declaring himself an equal right after accepting the terms of his own doom.

[@GOLOVOREZ1996]

Джо очень умен и тактичен!

[@gunner2225]

You copied this from somewhere, I read this before

[@phamcuong9154]

I think Dementus and his men killed alot of workers then taked their position

[@Crackshotsteph]

He was an Australian Military Officer. Joe was a war hero during the Oil and Water Wars.

[@davidhong1934]

While Immortan Joe likely planned for Dementus to lose control of Gas Town, he definitely didn't get the outcome he wanted. As mentioned multiple times throughout the film, the three cities support one another with vital resources. Mismanagement of one city has drastic consequences, as the underlying infrastructure is not something they can easily repair. Given the situation, it's likely Immortan realized early on that Dementus, while a competent tactician, is inexperienced in logistics. Any other raider boss, accustomed to stripping an area clean and moving on, would likely keep to old habits and quickly earn the ire of both the locals and their own men as consumption outpaces production. At this point, the raider boss should be unpopular enough to be replaced with zero complaint from all parties. In a way, Dementus does fall into Joe's trap. He clearly does not understand how gasoline production works, and the system increasingly worsens under his rule. However, contrary to Joe's expectations, Dementis has too much charisma for his men to outright abandon him. In fact, his charisma is enough for his men to attempt another raid, this time on Bullet Town. At this point, whatever plans Immortan Joe had have now backfired. Instead of a weakened tyrant to dispatch at his leisure, he has an unpredictable rival with access to more resources than he started with. Had Dementus won, one way or another, all three cities would've been devoured down to the bones.

[@DarkLiberatorZone]

This scene was great, the actor playing Immortan Joe does an excellent job considering the shoes he had to fill.

[@chriscage669]

Agreed! Love your funny R6 videos Dark!

[@theoutlook55]

Isn't the actor the same as one of D's lieutenants, the guy with one eye?

[@DarkLiberatorZone]

@@theoutlook55 Yup. Lachy Hulme who played Immortan Joe also did play one of Dementus' lieutenants.

[@SinKimishima]

The nose and nipple pierce really made me think hes demented. And love the people eaters reaction

[@GoodVibesPresident]

Hemsworth is really just a 1 trick pony with Thor movies, the rest has been sub par at best.

[@LukeVilent]

​@@GoodVibesPresident This role was top notch - finally given a villain to play

[@AllfatherBlack]

the moment i realized that wasnt a tough guy gimmick and he probably just legit got off was the convincing logic to me personally

[@theoutlook55]

Yeah, what was the point of having that thing attached to himself?

[@LukeVilent]

@@theoutlook55 So that letting the handle go would be not in his interest. If it wasn't, he'd be just killing the Gas Town Mayor. Now if something happens - it is Immortan Joe or someone of his retinue (like Rectus as it was in the movie) who is made co-responsible because they've failed to negotiate in time. It also serves as a parallel to what Dementus is about to do to the Gas Town should Joe refuse coming to terms. Like "see, dude, blowing it up 's gonna hurt really, but we're nomads, we shall withstand this pain? How 'bout you?" The Man Eater holding to his pierced nipples is the answer - the economy will be hurt pretty damn hard, if not fatally.

[@master-of-mind5881]

The actor playing immortal Joe nailed the facial expressions and cadence brilliantly. Top performance so mesmerising and intense, his eyes look stunning.

[@GoodVibesPresident]

Not even close to as cool as the Fury Road Movie Immortal Joe. This version is watered down.

[@master-of-mind5881]

@@GoodVibesPresident no I prefer this version actually he looks and sounds more menacing

[@romansionis2470]

@@GoodVibesPresident This version is definitely cooler. He's shown as a smart, calculative leader and a competent governor. In Fury Road we only see him lose his cool and take decisions that would eventually lead to his demise.

[@OfLanceTheLonginus]

@@GoodVibesPresident Fully agreed. “Oh he’s smarter and cooler” No? He’s just. ..there, he doesn’t do much. “Oh but he flies into a rage in fury road” Yeah and that’s interesting. That’s what makes you enjoy a villain, the dude has his sons talked down upon and just barely reacts- that’s not cool that’s just dull.

[@SunDogGod]

He doesn’t have the real gravel in his voice like the original.

[@JaNeija]

The doc-mek really lucked out here. Buddy is instantly part of Immortian Joes retinue and inner circle as he is tasked with caring for his wives, sons and Joe himself. As a reward this guy has water, fresh veggies, gruel, protein mix, shelter, security and access to what's left of technology.

[@SirRengeti]

I love the WTF look Dementus' gives to the organic mechanic, when he "advertises" Little D.

[@jybrdls3647]

Please my Immortan, MY BROTHER! I fucking loved that line and every thing about this fucking movie

[@ramblinnernd5905]

Dude this movie is fan-friggin-tastic!

[@eddsters4081]

I think he says "Please my Lord...MY BROTHER!"

[@leafloev]

"Please! Give him what he WANTS!!!"

[@jybrdls3647]

@@leafloev that line too! Sounds stupid, but the way he says it and tone just sounds cool

[@jybrdls3647]

@@ramblinnernd5905 I seriously didn’t expect to love this movie as much as I do, I never saw fury road and at great regret neither this movie in theaters

[@gusnunez1254]

5:47 How I love that face off scene. Wise warlord Immortan Joe VS Ruthless Rebel Dementus

[@camiloruizcastellar4740]

Yea like watching two kinds of testosterone measuring each other

[@rogeriosousa9474]

Great description

[@WTFisTingispingis]

Fun fact, Lachy Hume plays both Immortan Joe here and also Dementus's number two. Hugh Keays Byrne (The original Immortan AND the Toecutter from Mad Max 1 had passed away a few years ago.)

[@AMnotQ]

That clip of him passing by the War Boys crew before filming will remain in my mind for a very long time.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

​@@AMnotQ"YOU LOOK AMAZING!" Absolutely legendary.

[@matthew_natividad]

@@WTFisTingispingisV8 V8 V8

[@WTFisTingispingis]

@@matthew_natividad V8 V8 V8 V8!

[@bruh_oly1370]

RIP Hugh’s keys Byrne

[@narfellus]

I wish some billionaire film fan would fund The Wasteland and skip the whole Hollywood bullshit and just get it done while Miller is still able.

[@RenlangRen]

George is such a unique director. All of his Mad Max movies were production nightmares, but he got them all done. I hope he has enough time to make the last one he envisioned.

[@willywonka7812]

And I wish that people started to realize that relying on the beneficence of billionaires is no way to structure a society

[@wesleywarsmith1113]

And since it would be about forty years since the original it would make sense to cast Mel as Max.

[@bigmike9558]

I too am tired of them CG ing the shit out of movies

[@sgtroach1510]

@@bigmike9558tf you want them to do actually go to other dimensions or actually hire space aliens or monsters for movies

[@cpegg5840]

Feel bad for Gastown’s first guardian 😔; at least that was a very quick death..

[@TempestGhost]

I could have sworn I heard the guy say brother to Immorton Joe before he died.

[@Jeptheplay]

@@TempestGhost he said brother. meaning joe is his lil brother. i think so, cause joe looks younger then him.

[@sudmuck]

​@@TempestGhost All the lords of Joe's strongholds are his brothers. It's a monarchy.

[@fernandomontemayor6457]

​@@sudmucknot really though, in the Fury Road's comics it shows Joe being an army general, Bullet Farmer was a mate of his, and the People Eater was just a random fat guy that told them about the existence of the water well below the Citadel

[@SCIFIguy64]

I’d like to imagine he was the least mad of the leaders, probably somewhat liberal in his policies since gasoline was a commodity you couldn’t risk to a coupe or rebellion.

[@afroman255]

The guy playing Immortan Joe and the actor who’s missing an eye are the same person in the scene btw.

[@ramblinnernd5905]

Dude that’s funny.

[@АндрейВласенко-и4н]

You're right, he's name is Lachy Hulme

[@hanslanda8303]

Wow good catch

[@wadepool8081]

He was in the matrix 2 and 3 as Sparks

[@АндрейВласенко-и4н]

@@wadepool8081 I don't remember his character in Matrix at all.

[@charlie1486]

I love how Immortan Joe holds such a cold expression in his eyes, given that he is Ex-Military so it's understandable how cold he is, what an Amazing Villain and Character 🥶

[@deathunitesus2135]

Bla bla bla ex-military bro this film is in a lawless free for all to get the most resources so im sure very many people have been doing lots and lots of horrible shit to each other for some time to the point where gruesome deaths are very common and murder isnt a crime like it is in most countries. So having that desensitization to certain situations could be from a very many things besides being a enlisted soldier at one point in tyour life. And yea im aware it was said somewhere in comics or other expanded works that Joe was a Veteran.

[@kfcriss]

hemsworth should get an award for this movie Dementus is somethin else

[@TCHC85]

Lachy Hulme deserves a ton of credit. He plays Rizzdale Pell (Dementus' one-eyed henchman), he plays Immortan Joe, AND he narrates the movie. He did a fantastic job.

[@ultraviolet540]

Didn’t the History Man narrate the film?

[@safado441]

Joe was smart and practical.

[@ramblinnernd5905]

Screw the hate-watchers and rage channels! This movie is GOLD!

[@bangrojai]

Those toxic bastards made us losing our chance for Mad Max : Wasteland. They didnt even see the movie. They just copy paste what some idiots said.

[@ramblinnernd5905]

@@bangrojai Damn straight man!

[@hugo8500]

People hated this movie?? Have to admit the trailers didn't look great but I thought the movie was awesome

[@ramblinnernd5905]

@hugo8500 Yeah a lot of people complain of the CGI or that it’s not Max or that it’s “feminist woke garbage” or some crap like that. (I mean there’s like two scenes like that and that’s it the movie is great) Anyone who does say that’s all that it is is pretty stupid in my opinion. The action, acting and story are all awesome. The real reason this movie bombed was all the channels parroting these complaints. It just spreads and infects the viewership.

[@hugo8500]

@@ramblinnernd5905 Damn that’s a shame, it’s sad some people are so quick to judge

[@ChocolateAsian9000]

I love how the Immortal Joe actor is the same as the one eyed man. Imagine playing both sides of a negotiation lol

[@to819]

"Mooooooommm! Lachy Hulme is talking to himself again!"

[@Stevelives13]

I suspect this is not unlike many situations that played out throughout human history.

[@LukeVilent]

The movie is so packed with historical allusions, it's harder to find a split second where it is not based on real events, ancient myths or both.

[@dnvnnsh]

Right. The deal made much sense and seemed realistic enough to the point where I thought this had to have happened throughout history before

[@Stevelives13]

@@LukeVilent I was thinking more about little girls being traded to grown men as property for very dodgy reasons. That shits even in the bible.

[@LukeVilent]

I would say this is how diplomacy works, with the only exception that normally the haggling goes much longer. Both sides start with unrealistic demands, and the reduction from what Dementus initially demanded and what he eventually got is very fair by those standards. It is not unheard of the victorious ending up on worse terms than what they've started with. The art of diplomacy is then to find the pain threshold. One of the most valued CIA agents in Kremlin, whom the soviets liquidated on spot once he was cracked, leaked exactly that - what was the soviet's pain threshold, so that the US could target the demands just a bit above.

[@mutantemarvin]

I like this moment 5:12 even tho they hate each other they can’t help but feel some attachment for one and the other, Dementus uses her to fill the void of his lost Child and Furiosa sees him as a parent figure, despite everything he kept her safe and at the end she wanted to keep the Tedy bear after rejecting it at first.

[@biggunsnu]

This movie was FANTASTIC!! Chris H never acted so well b4

[@jmn194]

Immortan Joe’s voice in this sounds awesome.

[@Retro_Force]

True 🔥👍 but sounds like Bane from the Dark Knight 😁

[@rajivsingh5120]

Feels a bit more better and more real than banes Voice

[@evancodsworth2]

​@@Retro_Force How does his voice sound like Bane's?

[@Retro_Force]

@@evancodsworth2 because of the mask may be 😁

[@petergresh516]

Immortan Joe demanding the Organic Mechanic as part of the deal shows exactly why Joe is a more competent leader than Dementus. Joe recognizes that for as powerful as he his, there are things that he just doesn't have the skills or training for. Instead he augments his power with skilled individuals. Dementus simply considers his own ability without any care of the individuals under his command. Simply put Dementus commands his horde, Immortan Joe delegates his empire

[@LukeVilent]

@@petergresh516 If you analyse the scene, you can see that Joe 1. Agrees on the most abundant resource - but much less than demanded. This means that. 2. He conceded on even less of the most abundant food (Dementus demands protein, gets a bit more carbs instead) 3. Re-establishes status quo - first for Dementus, then for himself. "Deal" - says Dementus, who still loses nothing. This gives Joe s free hand to start with his own demands. And so he 4. Demands a symbolic asset - which Furiosa is of now for Dementus, and may be of actual value for Joe. 5. Demands a crucial asset - which is organic mechanic. A perfect rising curve, crowned by deadlock condition: "Otherwise it's war".

[@EGRJ]

@@LukeVilent They copied that from TVtropes. Or the other way around.

[@mrj4082]

​@@LukeVilenthonestly Dementus should've gone to war with Immortan Joe right at that very moment

[@tacitus6384]

I like the People Eater as a side character. We see he's a numbers man, a man who, though cruel by today's standards, is definitely needed in a time of scarce resources. It's also why I thought Mad Max Fury Road had the bittersweet ending when the protagonists dump all the water onto the populace - it feels nice at the time, but as the People Eater says "The wasteland can't sustain it, run the numbers", they were dooming themselves through over-indulgence.

[@grinninggrin3422]

What are you? An anti-feminist? The movie clearly showed that laws of nature\physics and rationality won't work when "Strong woman"(tm) takes charge of the situation.

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

@tacitus6384 False. The comics expand on how there is an absurd amount of water under there and that holding back the water is unnecessary

[@tacitus6384]

@@Jon.A.Scholt I go by the movies. Apparently in the comics Joe likes the war boys a little too much, especially the young ones...

[@lazyquahog9385]

He didn’t have much dialogue in Fury Road, but him berating Joe of their losses after getting stuck in the mud sticks with me.

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

@@tacitus6384 Joe certainly was a "character". Nothing works quite as well to tell an audience a character is irredeemably evil as "liking" children. Though I think the audience watching the films didn't quite need that tidbit to know Joe was awful. They did include it for Rictus though.

[@nakfoor1846]

Joe's intelligence and tactfulness is understated here. He patiently observes his opponent. Finds an "in" in the negotiation. Makes Dementus agree to terms that were far below his original ask. Then he does what's called a "nibble" where he demands additional assets after the deal is already made. Dementus is too dumb to realize it.

[@drewske1984]

My favorite movie this year so far.

[@shapesnatch1341]

I love how this scene shows Joe to actually be a very compitent leader. Dementus came in with absurd demands. Joe can clearly see that while he is unhinged, he is a dangerous foe, who took over Gastown with reletive ease. While he doesn't give in to all of Dementus' demands, he does give him something, which makes Dementus happy, while probably not hurting Joe's supply by a significant margin and securing the safe passage of his War Rigs. He then takes Furiosa and the Organic Mechanic too, both of whom would be seen as valuable commodities in the wasteland. He then finishes it by telling Dementus that is that's not good enough, they'll go to war. Since Joe has the food and water supply, and an army of devoted War Boys and the citadel, he would definately have the upper hand if it came to all out war. Amazing villain.

[@WillRivera-nh2wu]

Just saw this movie yesterday. 10/10 had everything I love in a movie.

[@dis_inferno9173]

Peak Dementus

[@thepoleontheroad]

Josh Helman is so awesome in this series - first as Slit, then as Scrotus. Captures the psychosis most people of the wasteland suffer from so well.

[@shevy7197]

What a fecking scene for a old school "MAD MAX" fan who's waited so long for another installment in the "wasteland", hope "Miller" eventually does "THE WASTELAND" film with MAX ❤❤❤ ✝️ 💪👍 xxxxx

[@drewske1984]

With the success of this movie with VOD, it could happen.

[@ultraviolet540]

@@drewske1984I’ve heard rumors about it being a series, which would only give more time to flesh things out, I honestly think Furiosa might’ve worked better as a series too, but I obv loved the final product.

[@jlebeau5150]

Had no idea that was Chris Hemsworth at first, that voice and the charisma really a departure from Thor, dude can really act

[@C1oaked]

Immortan Joe looks Angelic here

[@hal9khal]

5:59 Love how the dude pointed his finger and laughed "cha-cha-chaaaa."

[@braxtonbobo4004]

0:06 man’s literally talking to himself😂😂😂

[@stevenwallace8569]

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[@ALefty]

One eyed character and immortan joe are played by the same actor​@@stevenwallace8569

[@OfficialNomad3]

⁠@@stevenwallace8569the actor that plays Immortan Joe also plays Rizzdale Pell which is the guy with the missing eye, his name is Lachy Hulme.

[@stevenwallace8569]

@OfficialNomad3 Ah, now I get it. Cheers for that 😄

[@MB-oq9px]

What i like about this scene in particular is how much it shows who dementus is. He holds the guy hostage and is at first sooooo confident about it. But his face changes when he notices that he really can't hold that drill anymore,he's not strong enough, he thought too highly o himself. Killing the guy wasn't part of the plan and you can see that, dementus keeps making mistakes again and again but he's so demented that he's just always acting like he's winning even when he knows he just f*cked up.

[@freebird264]

I love how even though he killed her mother and took her prisoner, Dementus genuinely cared about Furiosa's wellbeing. Joe just wanted another healthy woman to mate with, Dementus wanted to be a father again.

[@ghostsamongus3370]

Joe was more sick looking at a kid that way. This movie is nasty. It's all of hollyweirds fantasies

[@josephgrundy5817]

I pray we get more mad max from Miller, this film was so brilliant and just oozed creativity. So refreshing for todays standards.

[@LukeVilent]

Remember guys: Blade Runner flopped; Gattaca flopped; Firefly got cancelled. Those were the movies far ahead of their time, people had to wrap their heads around it. Furiosa is truly a saga, packed with historic allusions at every shot. Comparing it to any other Mad Max movie is simply wrong - it's a different genre. Kudos to Miller, who was not afraid not to stick to the formula.

[@gentblue]

Fury Road was not a massive hit either, despite the plaudits. I am pretty sure that Ant-Man 3 outsold it.

[@LukeVilent]

@@gentblue I don't know, whether I am old enough to lament the sorry state of humanity. It seems, thought, that the wide majority prefers to see the war as this mass Avenger-esqe standout of all the good guys against all the bad guys where conflict ends as soon as the final boss is defeated, rather than that long and bloody thing between - way too often - two and more evils, where the larger and smaller one depends rather on the side one found themselves on. Furiosa tried - and flopped.

[@Bird-Birdy-Love]

This movie was just released at the wrong time, it took too long to come out that the hype died down, the current woke culture turned off a lot of people even tough this one clearly was not trying too be( it is actually real) plus the over used the budget, it cost more than fury road to make, there are other factors but those 3 in particular really effected it, it will still remain a cult classic but it is safe to say that the mad max saga is going to be dormant again for a long while.

[@ultraviolet540]

I think it could’ve worked better as a series, simply because there were a few characters like Mary & Jack, or plot points like the Wasteland Wars that definitely needed more time to breathe. It probably would’ve done better financially if this was the case as well.

[@MrHellsing76]

You know, I just noticed, Mr. Harley had some brains, he was one of the only people on Dementus's crew that seemed upset at how the deal went, see him shaking his head at the Organic Mechanic being taken away.

[@jameshelling4421]

I don't know why there are so many haters of this movie. Everything about it was glorious and I loved it!

[@johnathonclayton6964]

4:13 love Immortan's eyeroll

[@stefanlange485]

This film is a masterpiece, every scene is something one has never seen before, to some degree

[@lyleevans8567]

Scene showed his how Immortan Joe was ruthless, yet competent. Also showed what led to his downfall: growing obsession with a true male heir (genetic absurdities don't count).

[@MikeZablo]

Amazing movie ! Good as mad max fury road ! I hope Miller makes third movie .. also og mad max movies with Mel Gibson are legendary

[@mr.n476]

2:57 look at Dementus seems unhappy to Organic Mechanic with that little head shake 😂😂

[@zjjohnson3827]

Also an excellent detail that the Organic Mechanic is a canny one. Immediately recognizes Immortan’s unusually strong interest in Furiosa and starts listing off her qualities and what makes her so valuable in this radioactive half-life populated wasteland. Even if he doesn’t know exactly why Immortan wants her, he rattles off reasons why her “price” is high, high enough for Immortan to take her (and unintentionally selling himself as well) and nothing else in exchange for increasing rations by a non insubstantial amount. He sees the way the winds blowing, with Immortan poised to take what he wants, and makes the best of it. Its barbaric of course, as she’s a kid and a human being, not a object to be bartered over, but its a way of showing why the Mechanic survived as long as he does, because he has a knack for spotting what warlords like Immortan (and no doubt Dementus’ whims, in however long he’s served him) want

[@satibacc1044]

This movie is beautiful

[@saucemagic]

Haven't seen this movie yet, but this scene is awesome. Great acting, dialogue, and set design.

[@gentblue]

Definitely worth going to the big screen if it's still on near you.

[@visionist7]

It didn't deserve to flop at all, it is a huge injustice

[@mrj4082]

Yup, it's way better than what it was marketed as

[@austinforbes4259]

Dementus commends you on your lifestyle and for agreeing to these... Trade negotiations. 😂😂😂😂 Is is just me? I fucking love the pirate dude with one eye

[@evancodsworth2]

What a gem of a movie. Amazing action, visuals, great worldbuilding.

[@KillerNoob2001]

God, i love that throughout the film you get constant "what a day" or call backs to what a wonderful day in the first one.

[@Flypidge]

Was actually a great movie. Didn't expect much at all but was pleasantly surprised.

[@hellowerewolf]

Dementus alone makes this movie amazing and there’s sooooo much more. I love you George Miller since I was in middle school! Road Warrior changed me

[@RedheadMetalC]

I like the Prequel Joe's voice, pretty good casting considering how original actor passed away.

[@aaronjaggan]

Damn he passed?😮

[@RedheadMetalC]

@@aaronjaggan yea he did, some about 4 years ago. Hugh Keays Byrne, that is his name, remember him when you look at the night sky.

[@giokyo9465]

@@RedheadMetalC i saw some behind the scenes bro was really a chill dude rip

[@darkforces106ify]

I cannot believe people didn't want to watch this great movie.

[@WAEVOICE]

Some people are just *maxed* out, I guess.

[@AndrewRyan-zv7zb]

I kinda assumed theyd waste more of the movie on Furiosa or her mother. Of id known it was MOSTLY about the Gastown/Biker wars, i would have gone to see it.

[@anthonygracey5528]

​@@WAEVOICE- nice...

[@anthonygracey5528]

It was amazing, can't wait to watch it again.

[@stpbasss3773]

I want to

[@lessermook7608]

Joe is commanding, I love it. Everything you need is eye contact, inflection and body language. 4:12

[@rosskerr1439]

My main issue with Fury Road is the lack of pacing and variety. It’s mostly just one big chase scene with very little context. But this one was a marked improvement.

[@Z-FilesYT]

The movie was perfect. Dementus stole the show but they all did. the nameless barbarians, the side characters. Furiosa, the world building and the action had very little silly going on. Showed much of the barbarian nature. The ONLY thing I regretted was the ending for Dementus. It was a flawless performance.

[@MrGunwitch]

Hardly, he’s likely the weakest character. Immortan Joe steals every scene he’s in, even the Octoboss overshadows Dementus.

[@davidsaesthetics2280]

Best movie !!! And a shame nooone watched it so we will never get the next movie !!!!! The aufiences these days are unthanksful !!!!

[@piapress2959]

Im not surprised that Chris is that petty to take a doll from a child🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rianbey1]

It was HIS doll FIRST.

[@piapress2959]

@@rianbey1 I don't care he gave it to that child 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@frogcannon]

Dementus

[@se78836]

Chris?

[@kanielabarcai6182]

Are you talking about dementus or chris himself

[@numbdude2006-go3fd]

I mainly watched this clip to hear immortans voice, it's literally so perfect. Not that the other one wasn't as good, cuz it was, but this one sounds like there's no editing and it's just the mask and I love it

[@slenderminion2229]

4:12 You can tell by this look that Joe is thinking to himself "How fucking stupid does he think I am?"

[@predator2262]

We need more villains confrontation,we always have hero vs villain but two villains being rivals is something intense and badass.

[@Arkham_Ninja]

Rip to the original Immortan Joe/Toe Cutter

[@LukeVilent]

@@Arkham_Ninja Immortan Joe est mort, vive Immortan Joe.

[@andrewcai5042]

Furiosa is perfect. Perfect in every way!

[@Aaron-zl5gq]

Makes no sense why this movie bombed , it was freaking fantastic , reviews were very good too.. sad no one went to go see it now we won’t get the mad max prequel that focuses on his time prior to being captured in fury road

[@destroissomething2057]

I blame all the fans that cried woke without even seeing it

[@mentlinc]

​@@destroissomething2057 the marketing made it seem like Furiosa was the main focus which doesn't sound as cool as what we got. Bad marketing

[@One000turtles]

It’s honestly so sad how this film was received. GM is a genius and the entire production behind this film was amazing. Just shows you the state of Hollywood today.

[@eddsters4081]

Crying internally knowing warner bros not letting Miller expand the rest like imagine him adapting the Immortan Joe origins comics (with extras for the film) and maybe the mad max sequel of THE WASTELAND, just more man, maybe another trilogy but I NEED MOOREEE

[@Sonj982]

3:10 the disbelief in the "No, this is my daughter" lol

[@terryrodgers9560]

Criminally underrated movie

[@Crossbones6732]

I really love the sound of the pumps going through this scene, it’s almost like music.

[@richyakuoko2360]

It's criminal how this movie was not a box office hit. And I haven't even seen it. But I've seen clips and heard about how good this movie. I've seen all the other Mad Max movies and they are all EPIC. Fury Road might the best action sci Fi movie ever. Highly underrated franchise. Maybe they should make a anime movie of Mad Max movie. Since they will probably make a live action movie because of the poor box office numbers of Furiosa.

[@ultraviolet540]

Not animated, gotta be live action. The whole point of Mad Max is the stunts and physical vehicles, the story too, obviously.

[@lionofapollo4636]

He found a way to depict a Thor like character moreso than he had with Marvel.

[@willgold9989]

Really would love an Immortan Joe origin movie. Which also means a Doof Warrior origin movie.

[@visionist7]

That would be an epic set from the pre-apocalyptic era when Joe was in the army, up until he takes over the citadel. Imagine the budget of realising Miller's vision of the apocalypse. Sadly with the flop of this film all we can do is imagine it

[@jamestoner3900]

I'd love an Immortan Joe Origin Movie, he's a villain I'd recruit if I formed a villain team others would be Sauron, Simon Phoenix (Demolition Man) and Clarence Boddicker (Robocop)

[@MatthewJarvis-zw2sz]

I'm not sure your sanity would survive a doof warrior origin movie, judging by some of the rumours of his origin floating around.....

[@treytison1444]

The movie made no uncertainties about how Joe was a much more effective leader than Dementus.

[@chokicheung5609]

Immortan joe looks young and his voice is normal

[@Aayush-cn4qr]

This is a great film like the fury road, i loved the patroetan jack

[@captainobvious8983]

This was actually a decent movie! I went to go see it ironically and was surprised!

[@voyagerdark]

4:47 dudes like :”Wait hold up this wasn’t part of the plan”

[@ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy]

4:34 this guy looks like Thor more than mcu thor

[@devanman7920]

Cool to see young Joe at his cunning best.