Demon's Soulless (Demon's Souls Remake critique, part 2: introduction)

[@megasoniczxx]

Someone on the development team must've REALLLYY been into modern cinema because that opening felt like a trailer you'd see in theaters. Only thing it was missing were the cinematic cuts to different scenes with the music syncing with it loudly to build suspense and playing some popular pop culture song in tune with it.

[@soarel325]

It really feels like they forced in alien-looking character creation options to overcompensate for the fact that the new engine doesn’t let you make weird aliens like the original

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

o.o

[@alansvartr]

i got the impression that the last decade of "lol frog lips" characters made by an endless stream of content creators in souls series meant that style of character creation was inevitable, so they tried to make it possible without resorting to min/maxed facial stats, and i personally think they did a good job of it, despite not using any of it myself.

[@CloneLoli]

The whole game feels like it was made by aliens to conform to generic western fantasy.

[@soarel325]

@@CloneLoli Lol perfect description

[@flabbajabba9527]

But the new engine does allow it.

[@Galax27]

Great video overall, however I would like to point out one mistake about the Second Introduction. It utilizes the concept art images, which can be seen in the Official Art Book of the game. In that original image of the Old One surrounded by the blue phantoms, the gargoyle enemies from Latria are present. (you can confirm this in page 49 of the art book). The Remake simply recreates the scene without much alteration to it. In the Original version, most likely the intention behind the use of the top and bottom black borders / vignette was to focus on the Old One and also obscure the gargoyles as they no longer have a purpose in the scene, however you can still view one in the cinematic, and in this video at @9:36 (standing on the decrepit rock on the right). Aside from that, the analysis of the sound design and musical choice / significance is well covered. The comparison to the Shrek uncanny valley / 'toon'-ified designs of the face models is also very accurate. Thanks for these videos. Really looking forward to the next part.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

Thank you for commenting! About the second introduction, i certainly know of the concept art, i'm very familiar with it. I have the art book downloaded in good resolution, and i knew of the gargoyles in the original concept art. However i do think that it was an early use of that design, and i don't think that with the context we get in game it would make sense for the gargoyles of Latria to appear there, and that's why From chose to remove them from the scene as best as they could. It seems that the concept arts had to be utilized for narrative purposes due to budgetary constraints, as every other game directed by Miyazaki has a fully rendered CGI introduction. The only 'gargoyle' we get to see in that cutscene is not moving at all, and there's even a difference present there when comparing to the original concept art; the gargoyle in the original rendition has glowing blue eyes, while the one seen in the cutscene doesn't, it looks to be lifeless. Even though you could say the resolution is at fault for that, i still think it was very much deliberate that the gargoyles were almost entirely cut out of that shot, and that the first demons we get to see in action are the colossal figures fighting in the war. As we know from the game, those gargoyles appear only in Latria, and they were most certainly created by the archdemon Old Monk. As the Maneater Archstone reads: "Masses of flesh litter these hanging prisons. Latria's current master, an old man who is no longer human, has been creating his own demons..." Those gargoyles also drop common souls we'd find in corpses, indicating that they might've been normal humans before their transformation/soul transposing into the statues. Their rapier (Spiral Rapier) reads: "It is meant to inflict pain and cause bleeding rather than deal damage, which provides a glimpse into the insanity of the Old Monk." That directly connects them to the Old Monk, they served as his guards and kidnappers, most likely. The remake however emphasizes the gargoyles as the focal point, they're indeed the first clear representation of the demons we get to see (supposedly unleashed directly by the Old One). I commented that they looked like placeholders, and they do, and with this added context i think it's clear why that is. (not to mention that the way they animated them is pretty awkward.) But of course i can't be 100% sure about any of this. And your correction is on point, since i haven't explained all of this i just said in this comment. I considered pausing the cutscenes in order to add in more information more than once, but i ended up preffering to cover them in real time, it's more dynamic that way. I'm sorry for dealing with that scene clumsily. :´^)

[@Galax27]

@@thefirelinkconspiracy Unfortunately I haven't considered the possibility for the gargoyle in the scene to be just a statue, even though that is indeed a concept in the game. (completely forgot about it for that moment) I agree with the fact that they probably didn't have the funds or time in order to create a more elaborate introduction. My comment's intention was more to point out that it might have been a slight oversight that it is still in the frame, before someone would vehemently discard the point you make entirely. Thanks for the reply and the clarifications. You're doing a great job with these videos.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

@@Galax27 Another small point to be made regarding this subject is that, as you've now considered, that gargoyle appears to be mostly portrayed as a statue, since it's only in the next shot that we get the narrator telling us of the demons being unleashed by the Old One. The Latria gargoyles are entirely absent from that shot, instead it cuts directly into the war scene where we get to see the demons very clearly. If From intended for the gargoyles to indeed be presented to us as the first living demons, the only thing they had to do was not deliberately remove them from that second shot of the Old One entirely, the original concept art had them there already. Oh, and thanks for the kindness! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos.

[@fastenedcarrot9570]

​@@thefirelinkconspiracy Not anymore. I personally like the static art with narration intros. They're very cool and give more of an impression of being told a story by someone before you begin your adventure. Not that I don't think the other intros are excellent either. Both types are good for different reasons.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

I can definitely agree with that. Thanks for sharing your thoughts@@fastenedcarrot9570

[@Ma1q444]

Demon souls remake is a perfect example of better graphics dont= better art

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Perfectly stated!

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

better graphics better controls better optimization better more smooth movement better animations BETTER FPS and FASTER LOADING BETTER FPS and FASTER LOADING 60 fps 60fps 60 fps 60 fps 60 fps

[@La0bouchere]

@@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906 Honestly, the faster loading isn't worth it since the og loading screens look better than anything bluepoint did

[@jdrok5026]

​@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906 better controls? I mean besides being omnidirectional that's it. Animations also feel very slow it's literally got dark souls 2 animation jank

[@StephanuSneed]

@@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906 It's a game made over a decade after the original, it would be even more of an embarrassment if it had worse graphics or controls lmao. Plus, none of what you listed is worth losing everyhting that made DeS worth playing in the first place.

[@jessehenderson2967]

Demon's Souls wasn't a game I could play in the dark. It scared me shit-less. So much dread and tension. This remake looks like a Shrek sequel or something light a fluffy like that.

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

says some random no one

[@flabbajabba9527]

I can guarantee you've never played either version of the game. The remake looks nothing like Shrek or anything "light and fluffy." Not even close. You don't have to like it, but stop speaking nonsense.

[@doppelbanger5797]

Holy crap how'd they fuck that up ? the blueprints were there , they clearly don't understand mood or setting, which is a huge part of the souls's appeal

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

literally no one cares except few old balding 60 years old fan boys I mean fangrandpas

[@crim1188]

@@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906 I mean you clearly do. How about goin to bed grandpa?

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

bed? what's that? I am god I never sleep!!@@crim1188

[@flabbajabba9527]

They didn't fuck it up, they just did their own take on it (in some ways better in some ways worse). It's a remake.

[@xymos7807]

Because this is what happens when morons think they know better.

[@voidman9]

A relatively subtle change is that the introduction (8:50) has this unusual, old film-like filter on it, at both. This is fairly anachronistic if this is supposed to be a medieval dark fantasy... or is it? Actually, a lot of stories written in the real-life medieval period **also** imply that their stories are set in the distant (yet still medieval) past. To me, this moment is a reflection of that -- the story of Demon's Souls is one that is so futile, already-written, and distant from the player that it just works to present the introduction to the adventure as something already archaic, contained. Boletaria was lost, or saved, a long time ago, and it's still in that loop of being lost or saved, and it will be there forever. The story is in the past forever, even at its beginning, and the old film effect communicates this subtly. You can also see this even more blatantly in the Monumental's cutscene, which is fitting as he is explaining the past. The remake doesn't quite get that. It copies the slight shaking of the camera while looking at the map of Boletaria, but has abandoned the old film effect otherwise, including the Monumental's cutscene. This fits with the remake's overall choice to portray Boletaria as a living, epic, conquerable landscape with you as the virile and powerful hero. The Boletaria in the remake is snappy, immediate, and verdant, contrasting the desolate wasteland it was in the original (and ultimately still is, thanks to Bluepoint's misguided attempt to change the tone of the game and nothing else).

[@brainafkstube5393]

I love the original intro so much. I ordered a Ps3 like 5 years ago to play this game and the Metal Gear collection. The excitement really got the better of me when I first saw the opening. Btw great job at recreating Trent Reznor

[@pedromacedo6135]

The character creator looks like it's ripped out of a modern MMO and faces look like generic RPG stuff, even cartoony. Demon's Souls, a 2009 game, had more realistic and believable faces. In fact, the low-fantasy aspect is what made DeS so unique.

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

watch ,,in game footage'' of old ds and write that down again clown! and who even cares u wear helmet all the time anyways

[@flabbajabba9527]

It does look more like a modern MMO, but it also looks far better. OG Demons souls character creator looked generic for it's time too. "Demon's Souls, a 2009 game, had more realistic and believable faces" I don't think you've ever played demons souls, honestly. The faces were anything but realistic and believable. They looked pretty bad.

[@Crabo99]

god the fuckin gargoyles with the old one. Worst thing is that people are shutting down critiques by saying "put your nostalgia glasses away" nah dude, we just care about this game

[@viktorpagels7569]

truly frustrating when that happens.

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

yea u don't mind playing an 50 years old game in 21 fps right? some random sh*t on the floor that is related to some random lore that no one even cares about is more important and value IN THE VIDEO GAME than actual better GAMEPLAY experience right?! better fps, lesser loading time, lesser clunky movement, better animations and better atmosphere mean nothing?

[@Crabo99]

@@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906 you talk like emulating ps3 demons at 60 fps isnt possible. Lmao Also yes, ps3 og still better. Cope & seethe

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

@@Crabo99 you can't emulate everything, also many people can't emulate games on consoles

[@Crabo99]

@@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906 many people cant also get a ps5 lmao, whats this logic

[@pastamaniac6794]

You should compare Tales of Old cutscene which in my opinion is the worst change of tone in the remake.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

I plan on comparing pretty much everything, don't worry! Yes that cutscene has changed for the worse too...

[@pastamaniac6794]

@@thefirelinkconspiracy and as well starting the themes at the beginnings of the bosses intros.

[@LemonCreature]

Another thing I have to wonder about is the voice direction they gave the lady narrating the intro. Is it just me, or does it seem a bit all over the place in tone? She seems to be speaking a some of the lines faster too. I'm not blaming her, just have to wonder what kind of direction she was given in the studio. I've got similar issues with other lines I've heard in the Remake. Fantastic videos by the way. I'd love to see you make more. Take my sub, and hopefully KZbin tells me when you upload. I thought I was part of a minority of people who viewed the Remake in this manner, but it seems I am not as alone as I thought with videos such as this being made. I'll be sure to check out the rest of your stuff.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

Thank you so much! After some personal turbulence I'll continue editing these. I'm barely ever at home, but I really want to resume these projects as soon as I'm able to.

[@c.l.a.u.d.e]

The new voice actors are horrendous too.

[@tustari]

I just finished playing the original on PS3. It is without question a masterpiece. Hearing how they raped the original soundtrack I had no intention on EVER playing the remake. Now I see the problems are far more extensive. It saddens me to see so many people gushing over the remake. It only proves that gaming as a whole is in the middle of a steep decline. Hardly anything original and unique is made. And when companies rape original masterpieces people will pay for it and actually thank them for it.

[@roar104]

love the videos so far. Just one thing. Sometimes it was hard when comparing intros to tell which was your text to read, and a few of them were half transparent so were hard to read. Perhaps if you put them off to the side or a different color background it may have been easier? either way, I very much agree with your opinions on the two games. Can't wait for more

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

Thanks! The reason for the smaller, transparent boxes is for you not to feel completely overwhelmed by text dumps. But i see it ended up making it hard to read and a bit counter intuitive. Sorry about that, i'll be sure to work on a solution for that for the next videos. Glad you're looking forward to more!

[@PantsuAficionado]

The fuck is wrong with Bluepoint?

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

u him and people like him and u

[@flabbajabba9527]

Nothing. They did a pretty good job. Cry more.

[@8304u]

wow it was really worth to have a remake, such a substantial change

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

yea jumping from 20 fps to 60+ fps worth nothing right? plus less clunky animations lesser loading screens also means nothing yea?, plus breathtaking graphics means nothing, yea some random clown's facial appearance is more value than those right? clowns everywhere

[@Mattroid99]

​@@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906Goddamn you must really be an insufferable 13 year old.

[@ashes336]

@@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906how much did Sony pay you lmao

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

753,4 cents@@ashes336

[@m97polska]

Bring more souls! (That is make more videos like this. Great stuff.)

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

What a magnificent comment! Thanks!

[@2rad4rio]

12:35 The original artwork that this is from in the original game does feature a gargoyle on the far right but it’s cut off in the cutscene

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

I know, I've addressed this observation in discussions before. I think you can find it if you look on the replies of the most liked comments. :)

[@InkyMuste]

Absolutely soulless. The photo mode selfies with disgusting expressions degrade the game in a way I didn't think was even possible. And now people are actually clamoring for bluepoint to "remake" bloodborne.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

It's painful to see the thumbnails for videos of this game.

[@flabbajabba9527]

Not really. The remake has quite a bit of soul, just maybe not to everyone's taste. "The photo mode selfies with disgusting expressions degrade the game in a way I didn't think was even possible." Give me a break. You act like DeS is some kind of tomb of an important historical figure being desecrated by vandals, but it isn't the case. It's a video game, not a holy text or something. Also, I think they'd do a good job with a bloodborne remake.

[@nono-lz9qr]

@@flabbajabba9527 Yeah, because soul is reimagining and ruining an established sound track, or turning unique enemy designs into generic western fantasy #74. You can’t say with a straight face that giving a fight where you kill a literal saint a bombastic and “epic” boss theme was a good idea. Hell, the entirety of the Remake’s OST seemed like they were ripping off DS3’s sound and failing.

[@SinclairLore]

Very interesting ty for this series!

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

Thanks for appreciating it!

[@viktorpagels7569]

let me know if you need help with recordings of the PS3 title. I can emulate it on 4K resolution and care deeply about the world. I wish I had a PS5 to help with that as well. Do you have a plan on how you will continue the series? A Shortform format like this may be appropriate by focusing either on a character or an area. I'm trying my damndest to find proper content for fair comparisons, but most videos I can find are about going from A to B quickly. Best one yet is EpicNameBro's Twitch Channel.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

What i have in mind currently is to make a more in depth comparison video for each area, although i'm not sure how exactly i'll structure it. I have two recorded playthroughs of the original and also one entire walkthrough + about 6 hours of clips from the remake (i sourced them from other channels, though, and i will be crediting all of those channels like i did here), so i won't need more footage, i think. But i assure you i'll try my best to cover every single detail, i too deeply care about this game, it's my favorite after all. I won't post all of the Demon's Souls videos one after the other though, to be honest, i wasn't even planing to make videos about the remake at all, but i thought it was necessary since no one else is talking about it besides Hydef Hyde. My main goal with this platform was to make detailed videos covering the lore of the Dark Souls series, since i believe i've reached very unique conclusions that are worth discussing. But now i'm really invested in this project as well. Thanks for your disponibility though!

[@kithughes8742]

i have nothing against Bluepoint in general, but yeah i totally agree with this series lol…..and same applies to the Shadow of the Colossus remake as well…..i mean i DID enjoy hunting for coins (for whatever reason¿?) but it just…..wasn’t *really* the SotC that had such a huge impact on me as the original did in 2005

[@azexir100]

I'm not too sure about the lore of the original game since i haven't looked super deep into it but at 9:34 there appears to be some kind of gargoyle figure in the top right that i think seems to be the place they got the idea to put gargoyles into the scene from? Not sure if it's fair to critique that part exactly since it'd appear the original also had that in it partially. Correct me if I'm wrong about this though.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

I have answered a comment with this same argument before. It's the one from the user Galax27. I'll paste my response here: "About the second introduction, i certainly know of the concept art, i'm very familiar with it. I have the art book downloaded in good resolution, and i knew of the gargoyles in the original concept art. However i do think that it was an early use of that design, and i don't think that with the context we get in game it would make sense for the gargoyles of Latria to appear there, and that's why From chose to remove them from the scene as best as they could. It seems that the concept arts had to be utilized for narrative purposes due to budgetary constraints, as every other game directed by Miyazaki has a fully rendered CGI introduction. The only 'gargoyle' we get to see in that cutscene is not moving at all, and there's even a difference present there when comparing to the original concept art; the gargoyle in the original rendition has glowing blue eyes, while the one seen in the cutscene doesn't, it looks to be lifeless. Even though you could say the resolution is at fault for that, i still think it was very much deliberate that the gargoyles were almost entirely cut out of that shot, and that the first demons we get to see in action are the colossal figures fighting in the war. As we know from the game, those gargoyles appear only in Latria, and they were most certainly created by the archdemon Old Monk. As the Maneater Archstone reads: "Masses of flesh litter these hanging prisons. Latria's current master, an old man who is no longer human, has been creating his own demons..." Those gargoyles also drop common souls we'd find in corpses, indicating that they might've been normal humans before their transformation/soul transposing into the statues. Their rapier (Spiral Rapier) reads: "It is meant to inflict pain and cause bleeding rather than deal damage, which provides a glimpse into the insanity of the Old Monk." That directly connects them to the Old Monk, they served as his guards and kidnappers, most likely. The remake however emphasizes the gargoyles as the focal point, they're indeed the first clear representation of the demons we get to see (supposedly unleashed directly by the Old One). I commented that they looked like placeholders, and they do, and with this added context i think it's clear why that is. (not to mention that the way they animated them is pretty awkward.) But of course i can't be 100% sure about any of this. And your correction is on point, since i haven't explained all of this i just said in this comment. I considered pausing the cutscenes in order to add in more information more than once, but i ended up preffering to cover them in real time, it's more dynamic that way. I'm sorry for dealing with that scene clumsily. :´^)" Given how they completely butchered the lore through an ignorant redesign of the bosses and areas I doubt they really thought about it at all. :´)

[@litt420]

Soulles demake ❤

[@ElevatedBanana]

I want to point out something about the big battle scene. So in the original you see armies fighting against three different types of demons, none of which appear in the game as enemies or bosses. But people have data mined the game and they've actually found unfinished models for two of the three demon types. They were supposed to appear in the Northern Limit area which was cut from the game, hence their absence. However in the remake they replaced the three different demon types with one new generic one they invented. I know that it's not the biggest issue the remake has but it always bothered me. One of the few glimpses of the cut area and how it was supposed to be, completely gone for no reason.

[@Alopkaable]

Couldn't agree more

[@harrydrake4173]

The lesson is don't let dirty gaijin remake JRPGs

[@93hothead]

Dark souls amirite

[@nelsomsmae3046]

Kinda weird to show the infinite headbutt stunlock that existed in the original right before cutting to the "soulless" title card, but nice video overall. I understand they wanted to make the concept art-sourced intro more visually interesting, but I honestly think the """animation""" looks worse than the original's concept art slideshow; its just a still images on separate layers that someone made wiggle around non-specifically; it was nice of them to fix the original's mistake of calling Urbain a Sage.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

It's baffling to me how Bluepoint didn't bother to fix most of the very well documented exploits and etc. That's why that clip is there. The community at large already knows of the exploits and glitches present in the original. And most of them are still there, untouched for them to abuse, along with newer, even more broken stuff (like the gold coin increasing your luck stat by about 2000, enabling you to one shot most bosses in the game with blueblood, the ultra op regen doable with the new deluxe edition ring)... it's funny, to be honest. Dist2 has finished the game online in 12 minutes. That's probably a record that won't be broken soon for the soulsborne series. This is by far the most broken experience on release i've ever seen. And yeah, the new animations for that intro are pretty goofy. I don't like them as well.

[@MrFr2eman]

​@@thefirelinkconspiracy Blue Point didn't have to fix it, since they're making the game on a different engine with different code, they wouldn't have those problems in a first place. They had to recreate all the glitches and exploits from the original, if you read or watch interviews, you'll see that they did it on purpose, they remade certain exploits and got rid of the others. Whether that's a good or bad decision, that's another question. I agree with your thoughts on the remake when it comes to the art direction, soundtrack, tonal shifts and such, but your opinions on the gameplay are quite strange to me. I don't think judging how broken or not broken the game is by looking at speedrunners is right, since out of bounds speedruns always been a thing. The fact that people can skip 90% of the game in Sekiro and complete the game under 20 minutes doesn't make it a broken experience, because you have to learn how to do it, you have to learn how to break it, and it's not easy. And all out of bounds any% runs of the souls games, or any games for that matter, are very quick, some go under 10 minutes. People just won't be able to randomly stumble into those glitches and screw up their playthrough, to finish DeSR in 12 minutes like Distortion did, you have to do very specific stuff, you have to know it's there and you have to know how to do it. If you didn't look up speedrun starts and didn't perform a certain setup, falling into a hole with soul remains in Boletaria-1 won't take you to the False King Allant fight, it will just kill you instead like it's supposed to. Only if you go online and spend hours learning and practising the speedrun starts and exploits, then you would be able to have a broken experience like you see in speedruns, but nobody would do it, unless it's their goal like OOB speedrunners.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

@@MrFr2eman Most of the glitches aren't hard to do, in fact, some of the more broken ones are even easier than the duping glitch. You can one shot stuff by popping a gold coin in the nexus, basically. You can regen all your health in 5 seconds by clicking x on a menu a couple of times. I don't think only PvP glitches should be fixed, since i don't think it's healthy for any game if anyone can simply look up how to completely break the intended experience on youtube and reproduce it within a couple of attempts. I didn't like that the duping glitch was available in the original, and i'm puzzled as to why Bluepoint fixed that glitch but not the stunlocks/cursed weapon ToB setup/2kat 0-100 true combo/etc and even managed to add more exploits to an already glitch riddled game. I also don't understand why they felt it wasn't necessary to balance out the game, even though it is a consensus that there are many completely extremely underpowered/extremely overpowered stuff in the game that could use an adjustment. I don't think anyone would've said that it would be a mistake on their part to balance out the game a little bit and make a couple of weak stuff more viable while nerfing some of the more absurdly powerful equipment. It'd make 10x more sense than for them to mess with the soundtrack drastically, redesign pretty much every boss and creature of the game, change the atmosphere and architecture of most areas completely and butcher the intent of the original art direction as a whole. I don't know where you've read Bluepoint say they intentionally recreated glitches and exploits, though. I've read Polygon interview, the Washington Post interview and i've also watched the entire Digital Foundry interview, and i don't remember anything like that, although i could've forgotten or missed that point. But if you disagree with my views on the gameplay, it's fine of course. I'm glad you're watching this series, and i'm happy you agree with my views on the art direction and etc, it's the more important part of my critique after all. And thanks for sharing your opinions here, i appreciate it!

[@MrFr2eman]

​@@thefirelinkconspiracy It was from the Polygon interview, they mention how "meme-worthy bugs and game design quirks will be properly retained." And the fact that they're remaking the game in their own engine, means that they had to put all those glitches and exploits into the game intentionally. But I agree that it's not a good choice, it doesn't seem to add a whole lot to the experience, especially considering that the game seems to be largely made for people who haven't played the original. And if they wanted to please the old fans, they should've kept the "soul" of the game, not PvP memes. So I agree on that part too, that it's quite strange that they stayed so true to the original gameplay but then made huge changes to everything else, changes to things that probably matter the most when it comes to the identity of the game. That said, I still don't think it makes for a broken experience, even if you get invaded a couple of times by someone who will stunlock you with headbutts, overall gameplay experience will be smooth. I've been watching a lot of DeSR streams since it came out, and I haven't really seen people, who're doing a normal playthrough, having a glitchy, buggy experience, and haven't heard anyone talking about it in the chat either. And I don't think having an info on exploits available makes a lot of people use them, even if they're easy to perform, most people are looking for the experienced developers intended, they're not looking to intentionally break the game. Speaking purely about the gameplay, the Remake seems to be better than the original, they did balance things that would matter for a casual player, some QoL stuff that fixed some bad design choices from the original, like item burden, better movement and framerate, adjusted drop rates, some hitboxes are tighter and more clear and such. Anyways, I think you're doing a great job with these videos and I hope more people will see them. Even for those who enjoy the Remake and haven't played the original, I think it would be important to see the difference, and for those who did play the original, remind how different and unique it was and still is.

[@ArilandoArilando]

What thread is the reddit comment from?

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

Most of those were from random threads, unfortunately I don't remember their titles, sorry.

[@jopezu]

wonder why sage urbain became saint urbain?

[@rochav6357]

I have a impretion what those people do not like humans. Just like "things", strange things. Why this game have tattoos? In this time of history we don´t have this adornment. Why they have cartoons faces? Where the "new technology" what the developers were talking? You are right about too many points. Good job.

[@maliciousbugman]

This "Body Type A/B" shit is so incredibly fucking dehumanizing, especially when it's done to make a tiny handful of freaks in society more comfortable.

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

I definitely agree that it's dehumanizing. And to think Elden Ring followed the trend and did it too. (...)

[@maliciousbugman]

@@thefirelinkconspiracy western developers and localization departments have been thoroughly infiltrated. Hell, modding sites have been as well. Someone made a mod to fix this in Elden Ring, and got removed from NexusMods because it's considered "hateful".

[@rickiryuin]

@@thefirelinkconspiracy Hey I'm watching your videos and I'm enjoying them a lot, especially because I'm an "artstyle > graphics" type of guy. However I don't understand how the "Body Type A/B" is dehumanizing. If anything, I think calling people "freaks" like this other dude did is way more dehumanizing. I still would have prefered for FS to change it to "Masculine/Feminine body type" instead, but I don't see how "A/B" is so outrageous. Anyway I hope you can make more of these comparison videos in the future!

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

@@rickiryuin As a non-american who's not dessensitized to the american way of politics, it is very dehumanizing to call women "type B" and men "type A". But I don't mean to offend by saying that. Thanks a lot for the feedback, and I'm glad you enjoyed the series! :)

[@fastenedcarrot9570]

​@@rickiryuin The freaks things is more about the people that demand everything change for them and must see their ideology reflected in everything. I assume so anyway. I personally choose not to use language like that but I understand the sentiment. I don't understand the "Body type A/Body type B" stuff at all, it makes zero sense whatsoever to me. If people identify as female then just choose a female character, if they identify as male just choose a male character. If you want an androgynous character then you can presumably make one fairly easily.

[@VedantFalcon]

The sound design of the remake is so, so horrid.

[@lewisbirkett4428]

Agree on alot of this but come on the character creation screen complaints are just pedantic. There's plenty of actual stuff to complain about

[@gromm1e]

Wow, what a wonderfully produced video that ultimately focuses on such insignificant things. I understand the remake has bad art decisions, we've all seen them, but if this isn't the most nit-picky content I've ever seen on it. I mean, i know that it only came out very recently but just look at Ratatoskyr's video on the remake, it covers everything this does, but ultimately conveys it's point better because it isn't so dead set focused on details most people will not realize.

[@Gsmooth84]

What gets me is the fact that they have Females as body type A and Males as body type B when we all know how the letter "B" looks. And Ladies, don't take what I say the wrong way; you all are amazing in your own right. The problem is Bluepoint games. If they are going to put woke ideology before everything else in their development work, why bother.

[@tatocancelled7186]

5:04 is this guy actually serious? Jesus Christ

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

for those nostalgic idi0ts, some lore related random ornament on the random floor is more important than 60+ fps, lesser loading time, breathtaking graphics, smooth animations, control, movement, atmosphere and sound design lmfao clowns everywhere

[@jopezu]

yeh, he makes a lot of good points, but this isn't one of them, lol. they look like amateur wax figures of people with thyroid issues.

[@PP-iq7co]

But is it a bad remake in the scope of gaming no but for you I guess I see this as nit-picking but your opinion

[@thefirelinkconspiracy]

This is intended to be only a small part of a series i'm making about this remake. If you take every video by itself, it could look like nitpicking, but i think there are too many issues, some of them small, some of them big, that end up making the remake a soulless product. But i respect your opinion, i could totally see why someone who isn't passionate about the original would think the remake is a very good game, for sure. Thank you for watching the video. :^)

[@8304u]

details are important

[@theonewhoismany8072]

@@thefirelinkconspiracy or say it with me you are blinded by nostalgia

[@PrayForTanqueray]

@@theonewhoismany8072 Just played the original on PS3 and emulated on PC recently and I do agree with most of his points on this remake. And yes, I played the remake several times now. Never to completion mind you, as I do not own a PS5 myself, but do play when visiting a bud of mine (who kinda sucks at DeS). The technical prowess shown in the remake is indeed remarkable, but their understandind of DeS' art direction und tone is severly lacking.

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

@@theonewhoismany8072 I know right, if anyone touches cs 1.6 (my favorite game of all time) and changes even one pixel on the floor I would have same or worse reaction, nostalgia is very powerful b*tch what can I say more :)

[@flabbajabba9527]

Calling it "soulless" is a bit silly. It isn't a perfect remake or even ideal, but they did improve on the game in some ways but failed in others, both artistically and gameplay wise.

[@RootVegetabIe]

Cool I'd love to hear about the art direction changes that were for the better.

[@hatedfollower]

I enjoyed the video but... man... We souls fans arent happy with anything... We get pissed about the Dark Souls Remaster, We get pissed about the Demons Souls remake.. Wtf can they do to please everyone? Nothing. Just enjoy the game for what it is. A different and modern take on an amazing game that still has the same love put in that FromSoftware did. I get what you are trying to say but I don't know why you let it affect you this much.

[@KebusKerrus]

Stop saying 'We'. Individuals are allowed to express a dissenting opinion. And the erosion of art and culture should affect you.

[@adamdavis1737]

"erosion of art and culture" The original game literally still exists

[@Mattroid99]

​@@adamdavis1737The servers are shut down, it has never been re-realeased and to get it you either have to emulate it or spend 90+ bucks to get it on PS3. By all accounts this is the only way to officially purchase and play Demon's Souls, so no, sorry to say but you're wrong.

[@adamdavis1737]

@@Mattroid99 You just listed two ways to actually play the game though so... As I said it still exists Another company remaking it with their own interpretation of it is not an erosion of art and culture that's the point It is just their own interpretation of said art and culture

[@Mattroid99]

@@adamdavis1737 Yes. Too bad in both ways you have to go out of your way to play it (And if you have the PS3 version you can't even play online, and for emulation you need to know how to set it up). Is it comparable to "just buy it from the PS5"? Not even remotely An official remake is not an "interpretation", especially because they claimed it to be faithful to the original. Especially when it loses what makes the original an incredible piece of art. Especially when, again, you have to go out of your way to play the original.

[@Zellosia]

Most of the choices From Software made at the time were made because they didn't have money and time to do something better, not everything is an artistic choice. Same go for the monsters design, sure they looks more scary because they are less detailed and blurry in the PS3 version, It has nothing to do with design. Also defending the character creation in any Souls, really ? Even in Dark Souls 3 the character creation was still garbage and waaaaaaaaaaaay bellow what every game had at the time, the Demon's Souls remake character creation mode is just what you can see in every other AAA games, you can create whatever you want, not just a joke character

[@ariaaster4122]

The silent hill fog was made because of hardware limitations , better remove that when they remake the game right ? Mario has a mustache and overalls because they needed a way to make him clear on screen , samus turns into ball because they couldn't animate her crawling , better remove all of those now right ? right ?

[@carlosluismendez7392]

the remake has a comicbook look.

[@toallin5146]

Nitpicking Souls.

[@dsmann12]

You're not a cinematographer, and it shows in your intro analysis. The "shrek" designs look better than the original game faces which don't look realistic at all, and imagine complaining about character customization options. Also, complaining about Dragon God actually looking like Dragon God... Only real valid complaint is the gargoyles in the cutscene, and that it still an inconsequential nitpick. Different = bad, purist fanboyism

[@tiborszakal5799]

"You're not a cinematographer, and it shows" these are just empty words to invalidate his observations without bringing up a counter argument. It's fine if you prefer BP's approach, but at least you should have share some insight on what they did better. It's also hypocritical calling him out on the character creator right after mentioning how much better the remake is. Regarding the dragon god, does the original not loolks like one? As I said, it's not a blasphemy to prefer the remake, but your comment makes you sound like you doesn't even watched a playthrough of the original for 5 minutes and got mad after some random scmuck dissed Blue Point's remake.

[@fastenedcarrot9570]

None of the points made have anything to do with if anyone is a cinematographer or knows anything about cinematography. Dragongod in the original intro is much better imo, he looks much more real, the near invisible eyes are more intimidating than the glowing eyes and the roar causing his mouth and throat to vibrate adds to how real he looks. The remake looks cartoonish and much less real and intimidating.

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

60+ fps plus lesser loading screen >>> literally anything related to old demon's souls sorry but that's true only better fps defeats everything that old game has to offer

[@Crabo99]

Cant wait for you to discover emulation

[@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906]

@@Crabo99 why would I lmao I don't even care for lore changing some random clown's face from mask to mutated face is not problem for me, I have no emotional attachment to original game

[@FaithfulFumoFan23]

You're an utter moron.

[@p99chan99]

​@@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906 Yeah? But for those who care more for the original thematic structuring and presentation of the original which trumps the remake by a long shot, it's unique and fits well for how the game wants to present itself, however the remake fails to capture that same exact atmosphere of the original by moving into an entirely different direction leaning towards more cliche and unoriginal styles that's been present in almost all media. It's not bad at any means at face value, it just doesn't fit Demon Souls' vision and the original does it's way better. I guess people like you just don't care enough about it being art and instead just purely a game itself, but that's fine as well.

[@anatoliasmercenary.]

RPCS3 allows you to play Demon’s Souls with 60 FPS 4K or higher, better than wasting money on the soulless remake

[@ticklememary992]

It's a remake. OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE ISSUES. This game still affords A LOT of satisfaction- especially to those new to the series (which it's a game lets not forget) ..change is the only constant. let people enjoy their game. More are enjoying this than getting swallowed up in specific grievances they personally have (i acknowledge some specifics take a community perspective but reception among the community is still rather positive) Lastly, more are appreciating this remake than trashing it, which should be a celebration in itself.

[@KebusKerrus]

Word salad. This trend to think that nothing new should be criticized is dangerous and not argued in good faith.

[@FaithfulFumoFan23]

People like you ruined gaming. Making it acceptable for companies to charge $70 for? ... An inferior experience to a game that came out in 2009.

[@rutedantos9552]

​@@FaithfulFumoFan23Let me tell that you are the type of person that ruins gaming rn

[@FaithfulFumoFan23]

@@rutedantos9552 I don't pay $70 for a worse version of a game.

[@rutedantos9552]

@@FaithfulFumoFan23 Idc about what you do, your attitude towards people enjoying games is stupid and you breeded that toxicity gaming discussions have now. Maybe just check what really matters more here