Denali D7 Pro Vs LoneRider MotoLights

[@irinapirciog3554]

Do i have a bike that I could put these lights on? No. Did I still watch the entire video. Yes.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

That’s a compliment - we will take it!

[@AdvExOz]

The best over explanation I have seen on KZbin. Can't wait to take delivery of my Moto lights next month 😊

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Glad it was helpful for you - we are fitting lots of these for customers so if you have any questions just drop us a message

[@ToRideOrNotToRide]

I ordered the D7 Pro just before Lone Rider showed his product. Fortunately I still could return the D7 Pro and order the Lone Rider lights. They look fantastic ❤

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Thank you for your comment - if you do order them, please use the link in the description as it helps our channel a lot

[@AliEhttisham]

That's one superb review, thanks a bunch! Would have loved to see the practical view while riding at night but no worries!

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Coming soon….

[@Robbiemoto]

I’ve no plans on adding any lightning but found that very informative. Nice one.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Thank you for watching mate!

[@jontrunkfield2141]

Great to see your views on these. I’m looking forward to getting mine fitted 👍

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Great and thank you for commenting - we can’t wait to fit yours for you!

[@officialslowey]

Great video and well worth watching. I've recently taken delivery of the MotoLights. I've also ordered a pair of Denali T3 rear pods. As I understand it, you can add up to 16 accessories onto the white ezBUS circuit, as long as you don't exceed the maximum draw. I going to try to daisy-chain the T3's onto the white ezBUS circuit with an additional Y-splitter. If that doesn't work, I still have the three spare ports on the MotoCAN (ezCAN).

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Yes that’s correct! Would love to know how you get on!

[@81722Les]

I will still never understand reviewers who do a review of lights in the daytime but won't do it at night, I mean, common sense should dictate that the only way to demonstrating all the "features" and advantages will be at night and all reviewers do it. Review lights during the day

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Hi there and thanks for commenting. There are loads of reviews at night time for the Denali D7’s, D7 pros etc These lights are incredibly powerful and rated globally as the most powerful lights on the market. This isn’t about that - it’s about features and showcasing the differences between the two models. We will be doing more videos later in the year.

[@hakansokmen6424]

Hello, I’ve been looking for a comparison between these two products since the Lone Rider hit the market. I came across your video, and it’s the most realistic, honest, and detailed one I’ve seen so far. Thank you for that.! However, there is still one topic that remains unclear to me. The Denali D7 fills the sides of the road significantly when at 20% brightness in DRL mode. But the performance of the Lone Rider at night with 20% DRL is still a mystery. I would greatly appreciate it if you could make a video on this topic when you have time. Thank you in advance.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Thank you for your feedback and comment I appreciate that and glad it was good for you. The LoneRiders have a fantastic pattern with the lower four floodlights and their purpose and design is to do just that - flood the floor in front and around you - we have plans for some detailed videos coming soon….

[@andypowles6256]

Great video and very informative. As you were explaining the lights I was thinking the moto lights seemed a better option purely in terms of functionality.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Very much so - but it depends if you want that - most of the time it comes down to personal preference - thank you for commenting

[@curnobullen]

Great comparison video. Really enjoyed it 👌🏻

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Glad you enjoyed it! Which ones are your favourite?

[@curnobullen]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers the Moto lights. I do like the look of them.

[@Bim941]

Moto lights are extremely awesome and they portray technology

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Yes! Completely agree sir!

[@gnmurray5955]

Lights are good to use at night. It seems really odd to do a comparison of lights without doing a comparison of lights....at night. I was seriously considering the new Motolights but after watching the release videos a few times I realised that the beam pattern is really relatively tight. I use a pair of Baja Designs XL80s on my R1250GS which have an amazingly broad beam with more than adequate reach. Here in Australia where Skippy often makes an appearance width of beam is paramount.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Thank you for commenting, however the beam pattern is very wide on full beam, it lights up the peripherals extremely well

[@OARotifa]

I think u should do a video short video of the lights at night, comparing both lights, if u can do this much extensive work, going that light extra mile for the channel gets u that boost. And people can make up their minds fully on what to pick. Since u have both of them.

[@OARotifa]

Awesome breakdown, and thanks. But I would like to know this, I am thinking, instead of having other smaller lights added to either of D7 Pros, or Lone rider, can one have both of them on a bike at the same time just as the same set up u have.? Was hoping u were going to touch on that.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Yes, absolutely however you will need to upgrade your alternator lol having both these lights on at 100% will cause your battery to struggle….. Honestly . You won’t need both at all

[@derekcowan2373]

Good comparison review, I got in quick for the 2nd batch of lone rider motolights Motocan & under nose mount for £699! Way Better lights imo & way better price than the Denalis £1120! need to wait till December though to get them 😮

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Fantastic news!

[@rooster80]

Really good video! I got a question. If I buy the motolights and their CANsmart, can I use denali lights on the other channels? Thanks.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Thank you for the comment and glad you enjoyed it! Yes you can use the remaining channels now you like with other lights(or accessories) if you wish

[@ThomasBréant-d7y]

Nice comparison. Thanks. Do you know if they are going to have a bundle for the BMW 1300 GSA?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

They will do once the brackets are finalised But you can use them with the R1300 MotoCan and use the engine bar clamps to get started! I have the new 1300GSA on order so I’ll let you know

[@ThomasBréant-d7y]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers Thank you.

[@sugus680]

Hello together A great comparison of the two auxiliary headlights. But I have another question: which windscreen is fitted to the GS? Greetings from Greece

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Thank you! This is the Puig touring tinted screen with additional clip on at the top

[@tjgrundl-hong7637]

Great Review ... many thanks

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Glad it was helpful!

[@cartzwheels]

The hex easy can is bike specific. Does that mean the moto can is also bike specific? I like the idea of only using one wire aswell. I wasn’t sure on the moto lights with the amber daytime lights but then you switched it to white. Decisions decisions 🙈

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Yes, just like the EZCan it will be Bike specific I am like you and I love the ability to switch between Amber and White for the DRL I think for someone who wants both fog lights and spotlights, this is a great solution

[@loncle138]

Hi thanks for all those detaiks, please have have you done to set both the moto lights and d7pro on your bike? Thanks in advance for the feedback

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

I’m Sorry I don’t understand the question - please email us at [e-mail] so that we can answer any questions you may have?

[@bobmcgrath1272]

Very interesting video-thanks What about legality of these lights? Are they road legal in the uk?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Yes fully road legal certified :-) Use the link in the description to order yours?

[@bobmcgrath1272]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers ok, almost convinced. Can I connect a Denali sound horn to the Motocan controller?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

@@bobmcgrath1272 yes you can very easily and same operation to what we are used to When are you coming to book in?

[@vulcan156]

I live in the Midlands and would like some D7s fitted. Where are you situated and how do I book my bike in? Thanks

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Fantastic - we are based in Earl Shilton, just outside of Hinckley - give us an email on [e-mail] and we can book you in!

[@WheelieAdventurous]

What about the quality of the light between the two?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Very comparable between the two, the quality and the focus of the brand are perfect and give you exactly what you want/need as and when you need it I will say the MotoLights have more control over the beam patterns

[@PKN44]

Can you turn on just the wide beams on the moto lights from the switch gear of GS whereas the entire light can still turn on with high beams?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

We have personalise this set up so the bottom Four only come on at dusk or darker situations at 10% but you can personalise and set yours up however you like as well

[@PKN44]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers I don't want it ON at dusk necessarily as I also ride around town and just the DRL looks better for that but during rides I want to turn on the wide beam from switch gear. Is this possible?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

@ ah yes you can with the OEM BMW wonderwheel Hold it left for 3seconds to enter adjustment mode and then spin the wheel forwards or backwards adjust the lights intensity by 10% steps

[@VittorioViaggi]

Thanks for this very useful comparison. As a Triumph Tiger 1200 owner. I've few questions: (1) are all features of Motolights, including the beam increase as the bike speed increases, exploitable by the Hezcan for Triumph, or the Motolights Motocan is needed? (2) does a crashbar mount for Triumph exist? (3) Is the Motocan compatible with others brands accessories, including Denali Soundbombs, etc..?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Hello and thank you for commenting! I am happy to confirm we have various solutions for you but it will depend on the exact model and year of your bike as to what we can offer for you. GREAT NEWS - If there is a MotoCan / EZCan for your make and model then all of the features will work on your bike yes! Please feel free to email us at [e-mail] more information

[@camyam]

hi. do you have anything showing what the lone-rider beam looks like at night. i am especially interested in the lower 4 leds - can i run them all the time or would it upset oncoming traffic?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Thank you for the comments, and this will be part two which is coming soon!

[@cpuuk]

Thanks for the insight.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Glad it was helpful! Which ones will you choose?

[@vstm3950]

Point from me: manufacturers miss this part of the market where we ride retro bikes... we still want good aux lights but covered by a 60'-70's looking blurry glass. Imagine BMW R18 with these ultra modern looking leds it will clash

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Very true, however there are other styles of lights we can look at for you? Get in touch with us at [e-mail]

[@vstm3950]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers will do, ta

[@mrts.bike.adventures]

When the CBS arena can’t afford there electricity they will be ringing you to light the field up 😂

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

I wouldn’t blame them, these lights are literally daylight

[@JohnL-qx4mi]

Hi, you should provide a real test review of the MotoLights, so we can really appreciate what those new pods can do compared to the D7Pro or 2 pairs of smaller 3-inch pods equivalent in wattage. I personally went with 2 pairs of pods to have a better beam orientation.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

This will be coming soon, however after having two sets of light pods before and then switching to the MotoLights, I can promise that the MotoLights pods are all you need I would go far as to say that the standard D7 pods give a fuller light pattern than the D7 Pros

[@JohnL-qx4mi]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers What do you mean by "fuller" pattern ? More Flood or more spot (throw)? Also, which pods model did you use before switching to D7?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

@@JohnL-qx4mi both in all honesty

[@AmarishMittapally]

Wow… you already got the lone rider aux lights…. I’m still waiting for mine 😢

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

We are lucky enough to be product tester for them - you won’t be disappointed! Let us know what you think when you get them

[@AmarishMittapally]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers Awesome. Thanks for your response.

[@S2keyz]

Can we pair a can smart with a hexcan ?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Yes we can daisy chain them together

[@KimmoJaskari]

I dunno... Clearwater lights have some *insane* specimens that throw wild amounts of light. Not to say any of these are bad but I'm not sure claiming they're categorically the best is correct. Their five-inch 10000+ lumen each Super Sevina for instance is brutal, or the Dixi which has both a long-range spot and a broader driving beam.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

The Clearwater light pods are fantastic as well we agree!

[@81722Les]

Clearwater lights are still the best in its class, beats any Denali lineup hands down but have the worst marketing and online budget on the earth, even sand sellls faster, better and have more reach than Clearwater. It's as if the guys there only want to sell to folks 4kms from them. Clearwater remains the #1

[@diaryofawanderingboot]

What about the clearwater lights. Where do you think they stand in comparison witht these beasts

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

A close competitor….. but compared to the smart light systems (from Denali and LoneRider) they don’t give you as much for your money

[@dibbledobbledodaday]

Can the D7s be used with the DialDim?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Yes they can but not with the full functionality - drop us a message if you want to learn more!

[@darrenevans1242]

Can you replace a set of D7’s with the Motolights without needing to replace or add a controller?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Hi Darren you will need either a MotoCan Controller or the EZCan controller (Gen2) that uses the EZBus white white Currently the Denali CanSmart Controller doesn’t have the EZBuz function yet Contact us for more information on [e-mail]

[@darrenevans1242]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers thanks James

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

@@darrenevans1242 very welcome

[@andrestef3-uj8fd]

Can younplease tell me what windscreen that is? Thank you

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Thank you, it’s the Puig Touring screen in black with additional add on screen

[@ronniebornman4122]

I want some lights with an easy to use strobe or flashing feature to aid visibility when lane splitting in traffic. What are my easiest options? Ps: I dont do much night riding right now.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

We can certainly look to help for you - message us at [e-mail] and tell us your bike make and model Hopefully we can help?

[@Tanjaawi]

Which windscreen have you got?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Puig Touring screen with additional add on screen at the top

[@mianozzy6772]

Hi would these lights work with thunder Box?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Although they may work, they won’t have any additional functions. They are designed to work with the controller (MotoCan) so you can achieve the functions (DRL, Indicators, full beam etc)

[@mianozzy6772]

Thanks for replying. Bro

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

@@mianozzy6772very welcome

[@robirwin1064]

Need to know what works best riding at night in dipped beam that won't blind incoming cars. Don't care about being seen, all about seeing without dazzling others.

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Then the MotoLights are 100% for you They keep the lights on a flood floor pattern until you put the full beam on.

[@mcentertainmentiom]

can i fit these on 2012 Tiger 800?

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Thank you for commenting - currently you can only fit the Denali lights on your bike but as the Tiger doesn't have a Canbus controller available for it, you will only be able to control them with a switch or DialDim unit. We are happy to discus your options if you email us at [e-mail]

[@mcentertainmentiom]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers thanks, i need to find something as i am wanting to do more UK riding and need aux lights... wonder what i can get/use...

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

@@mcentertainmentiom drop us a message and lets create a solution for you?

[@Vjekoslav-vf3hr]

I agree 103%

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

That’s a lot of %

[@apnagaon6498]

AES FX3 Biled Laser is much better ... if you can please make a comparison video

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Hello and thank you for the comment however this isn’t a brand or model we have heard about before…. You say they are better, can you tell us how/why?

[@apnagaon6498]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers actually its a car fog light .. and I have custom fitted into my bike . i found out that its better than Morimoto Bi-LED and JW Speakers evo series.. i was using Morimoto bixenon from 2009 ... the AES was inferior product in the Bixenon era but the new AES bi-LED Laser are so good . the low beams are so wide with perfect cutoff and the high beams are exceptionally good... the Clearwater light even cant match the Morimoto Bi-LED so I am quite confident that D7 pro cant match new gen Bi-LED Laser ..

[@blaine_rides]

My thoughts? You want my thoughts? Where the heck are the night shots? They’re lights - and this is a “review”. How did you not compare them AT NIGHT?? 🤔

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Thank you for the comments - this will be part two of the video - keep your eyes peeled for the results

[@X2King]

Did BMW put some OEM light on that bike ?!

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Yes of course

[@mattyb7736]

Nice lights, shame about the bike they are on. 😂

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Tell me about it lol

[@mattyb7736]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers im tempted on a set for my Africa Twin, look better than the Denali units

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

@@mattyb7736 if you go for a set please use the affiliate link in the description as this helps my channel massively :-)

[@LS-FR]

Hi there. I don't comment usually, but this time, I'll make an exception. From my point of view, having the D4's from Denali for at least 5 years, mounted on a RT I'll have to add that even the Lone Rider lights might be brighter they still lack many useful futures ... Please correct me if I'm wrong but they are not working with the BMW control wheel, you'll have to have a different switch mounted on the handlebar. The 3 times flash won't trigger the flashing from the additional lights (as Denali does), the same story when you're using the horn it won't trigger the flashing additional lights (as Denali). Only these 2 future alone saved me from a couple of accidents in the city. Another aspect is that it is not completely true what you've mentioned regarding Denali and their connectivity. For example, the horn is connecting directly on the original harness of BMW, so it won't take any other place. I had the horn installed (but the new RT has one as powerful as Denali, so I didn't changed it). I have the 2 D4's installed with the special brackets under the mirrors and the auxiliary brake light, and i recommend it, and i still have place left for additional lights. Another point (if I'm not wrong) you can use the Y cable from Denali and connect left and right additional lights in one slot. Please note that I have the first generation of the Denali D4's and controller box, which doesn't have as many options as the latest one. Also, they are not prepared for RT's ... there is no special mount for it. I hope you won't take my comment in a bad way, I really like the LoneRider lights, but I think Denali are more like an all purpose kind of lights while LoneRider are more like Off-Road (or only you on the road situation, which to be fair is like 10% of the riding time). Best regards

[@thoham60]

Your assumptions are as wrong as they can be. Denali CANsmart, the controller, is an OEM version of the HEX ezCAN. So is the Lone Rider MotoCAN. So you can program in the same "flash on pass", "flash on horn", etc. No extra switches. The only difference between the three is that the CANsmart comes with more cables in the box, and has a higher price. Plus Denali at the moment says they do not support the new HexBUS that Lone Rider uses, but I think they actually do. I upgraded one, and it is there in the application. (No surprise, as they all use the same software. The resource library contains different logos and icons, that are chosen based on what brand of controller you connect to the computer.)

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

Hello and firstly thank you for your comment and asking the questions - this may also help clear up some confusion for any other people watching/reading… The Denali lights you currently have will be using the Cansmart controller, which is a controller built and designed by Hex Innovate. This same design and controller system is used in the Hex EZCan and now the MotoCan controllers. So, to answer your first point - they will have the same functionality as your current set up and also more additional features. I will agree the strobe function on the flash to pass and horn is a fantastic feature! The SoundBomb horn you have installed can also be installed inline with the original OEM horn if you wish but works out more expensive to do it that way as requires a plug and play harness - if you were to add your SoundBomb onto the controller then you will twin link both horns together to create a fantastic “train horn” result. You mentioned about the Y-Split cable, which is a standard way to install the lights, but with the newer controllers you have the ability of having a left and right channel so you can request the left lights to flash (or go out) when indicating. This is a great feature to have when you have the amber lens’s installed and will create an additional indicator (more visibility = more information for other road users). However if you are happy with the pair of lights to operate “as one” then the y-split cable will be a great option. The MotoLights are fully certified to be road legal and will both enhance your visibility and cause you to be seen better, I would say they are MORE suited for on road usage with the addition of the DRL as indicators and the super strong beam patters for the road and path ahead of you. Both Denali and LoneRider have amazing auxiliary light solutions and there are other brands that are becoming bigger and better as well - we are still an advocate for any/all additional lighting is better than nothing so it just comes down to personal preference. If you have any more questions, then I would be happy to answer them for you, Kind regards, James

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

@@thoham60 thank you for your input :)

[@thoham60]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers Another advantage of connecting the SoundBomb to the ezCAN/x/x, is that you can program in a delay. So a short press on the button gives the friendly little beep, and a longer press gives the annoying bicyclist a heart attack. Granted, you do get some of the effect by using the stock horn wire to trigger a relay in parallel due to the inherent delay of the compressor, but you loose the really useful light flashing.

[@thoham60]

@@MidlandsMotorbikers And thank you for a great video! I am a Denali and Lone Rider reseller in Norway, so it is very useful to me.

[@barrytriumph6620]

Could your bike be any wider 😂 x

[@MidlandsMotorbikers]

It’s all about the Road presence for me :-)