DENDRO REACTION SHOWDOWN! Which is the STRONGEST? Burning vs Bloom vs Burgeon vs Hyperbloom!

[@IWinToLose]

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[@Carbuncle0168]

Hyperbloom the best

[@bombituico]

What the f is that name “Divine W” LMAO

[@dionyvaldez5588]

try hutao db burgeon team

[@angelr2404]

Is this game mobile only?

[@kukimains9627]

we Love Hyperbloom 🥰🥰

[@lil_Perro]

I swear burning is more of a threat to your characters than to the enemies. I burned some grass with a kazuha pyro infused E and did about 5k dps to myself . Barely got out of that with 2k hp.

[@Romashka_Sov]

Imagine how devastating it was in 1.0, when players had 8k hp, and before devs nerfed burning...

[@Stormtide]

dude really lost 5k health every second, damn

[@hollowtruncatedicosahedron]

@@Romashka_SovWasn't the burning nerf directly following a burning buff in, like, 1.6 or something? Certainly wasn't in 1.0

[@Romashka_Sov]

@@hollowtruncatedicosahedron actually, it was in 1.1, just thought this since the beginning. Found news from Nov.13.2020

[@xiankyotakazawa8213]

Bro got 5k damage per second (dps) for burning, dang

[@theianeia]

Man, they pretty much killed burning when they nerfed it's elemental gauge, shame. I was actually quite excited to use burning for my melt Ganyu.

[@pokecailan3006]

Same ;-;

[@lostblueboy]

i agree, they should kept the gauge for cryo and hydro teams to finally use vaporize and melt properly and not just benefit pyro but the numbers should have been kept low. but they did both so now its useless

[@raurisaurus5057]

Burning actually isn't that bad. IWinToLose did a horrible showcase of it here. If you pay attention, he always used Collei and travelers bursts together which is NOT what you do when burning relies on dendro application every 2 seconds. Which traveler can do. (Meaning that burning had loads of downtime). It's also funny that the other comps require multiple reactions, but for burning who's best candidate is Xiangling, IWinToLose instead used Bennet, making burning unable to do multiple reactions and extremely nerfing it. Another thing id like to point out is that burning if used with Xiangling, enables multi reactions like quad melt/overloads and potential vapes. The issue is it requires Xiangling due to the fact that 1U pyro isn't enough on its own, however that 1U pyro helps Xiangling with pyro aura application. Burning+Xiangling enable Chongyun to Quad melt with his burst. (Only Amber can do it efficiently). Burning+Xiangling enable overloads to also proc. I used a team with yae Miko. Burning+Xiangling can also proc melt and overloads at the same time in a team with yae Miko and Rosaria. However this team can't quad melt for Chongyun. The best part is that burning can't be stripped off due to Xiangling constantly reapplying pyro, and the extra aura burning applies helps Xiangling do other procs. Also note if you replace Rosaria with Kokomi, she will vape whilst the other reactions will still proc. (it's also a must to use electro or hydro in these comps (altho I highly recommend electro over hydro) so that you can infuse travelers burst to do consistent dendro application without it exploding.

[@lostmyname1874]

At the end of the day , burning/bloom/hyperbloom/Burgeon still does the same amount of damage with same amount of EM. Unlike the others, burning do several little dmg over time and sigle target but the total amount is still the same. Edit: typos

[@purplerainPR]

both reactions are bad its just that burning is worse lol, I know he didn't want to max out damage but any dendro reaction outside of quicken/spread is just a fun reaction

[@LyteArken]

I would love to see a full kit team redo these runs to see how it all compares. If you do, pls give yourself a break and take your time. Love the work you do.

[@chirb008]

this is just gonna become in another Yelan showcase

[@grismatics]

@do not 🤓

[@reed3863]

Hyperbloom is insanely good without needing any crits..just stack ER on everyone and EM on kuki shinobu(and get her to level 90). Easiest team to build with very cheap investment. Don't even need talent levels. Perhaps xingqiu's skills and burst for more dmg and shinobu's skill for more healing, but that's still optional.

[@beastunleashed657]

yep! Fridge is similar as well, but it is more utility dependent cause you gotta freeze your enemy

[@wandersonvitor3054]

I love Hyperbloom with Kuki

[@robinreyes7657]

@@beastunleashed657 idk about fridge i tested it and i dont like it.. if im gonna go fridge ill go for full freeze team and put dendro to someoone can ignite dendro like hyperbloom/burgeon

[@beastunleashed657]

@@robinreyes7657 who did you play it with? I used Dendro Lumine, Ganyu and Koko, and the experience was amazing

[@robinreyes7657]

@@beastunleashed657 i did kokomi, ayaka,diona and mc yeah the dmg is nice but idk i still like my old team replace mc to bennet again and made a hyperbloom on mc

[@OC_]

Basically. Use burgeon and bloom for multiple enemies. Use hyperbloom for single target scenarios. Don't use burning.

[@illusion9423]

Where aggravate

[@flswttr]

and use aggravate everywhere lol

[@willywo100]

@@illusion9423 aggravate is another story, because aggravate level same as melt / vaporizer team, you need build lot of crit value + atk%

[@willywo100]

@@illusion9423 burning, bloom, hyperbloom and burgeon, is simpel build, just play EM + Level

[@reizero246]

@@flswttr The problem with aggravate are the characters. Fischl is nuts, but the one who can take advantage from her broken A4 in Aggravate is keqing who has a low damage. You have to choose if using healing (Kuki), shielding (Zhongli) or damage (kazuha/sucrose), and current dendro characters are too much bad at aggravate except for Thignari, but using Thignari you are wasting other comps.

[@juancamilogomezmunera1260]

I don't know what developers have against Damage over time teams. In many games they allow this kind of gameplay but always makes it trash. Poison, venom, burging, corrosion and things like that could be paired with dashes and mobility checks to ensure the player is engage but in a different play style that just landing blows.

[@mafimok]

Would love to see SPREAD/AGGRAVATE vs MELT and VAPE. Sure, abyss buffs dendro but we also have overworld to test.

[@stylerxo3654]

Comparing most teams to Hu Tao double Hydro or Childe International atm is unfair. Vape has the best teams in the game.

[@cosmictrainer2919]

Not fair since the best dendro support dmc can't do dmg at all

[@-Four-]

lets wait for Nahida then we'll come back to this. MC is simply not enough atm

[@OC_]

Hyperbloom is the most fun and easy to use in my opinion. Also yes, I would like to see how these reactions do when the characters are built better.

[@Nowaylarry]

The thing is with a Kuki trigger hyperbloom team you could use literally anyone that won't interrupt the reaction in place of Collei. Traveler + Xingqui is enough for core production. Beidou for example. Her burst will never target the cores and she brings a ton of extra damage. Plus she would offer some AOE coverage that hyperbloom lacks. Fischl could also work since you do get some electro charge and aggravate uptime. She will occasionally hit the cores but it is pretty infrequent. You could also just drop Kuki entirely and use an anemo character for the hyperbloom trigger (A ton more team damage at the cost of mitigation).

[@vukkicos5688]

Would love to see how older reactions (such as Swirl, Electro-Charged and Overload) would preform compared to the newer ones

[@jaguh9069]

My guess is they are still better because you already have multiple characters to fully utilize every team comp reaction with fully flesh out rotation. Dendro is still new and the best dendro enabler is funnily enough the MC. Wait until we have a dendro Xingqiu to have good comparison berween all these reaction.

[@reothomas956]

I agree

[@shachede6828]

@@jaguh9069 nah! Aggravate and spread is on another level. It’s like the melt and vape of electro

[@demoncloud6147]

From my testing Electro-Charge does about 1/3 of the damage of Hyperbloom and Overload does about 1/2 the damage of Hyperbloom for same EM

[@reothomas956]

@@demoncloud6147 Electro charged can crit i believe so crits and talent level also matter

[@lukeh419]

Personally, I'm happy that burning isn't very good. Mostly because Pyro has been the focus of Genshin meta longer than nearly any other element and still remains very good because Vape and Melt exist, plus Pyro resonance. These reactions help boost underused characters like Kuki and Thoma without encouraging people to "Just use Bennet" like we've been hearing for the last 1.5 years.

[@Ilovechickenssss]

I'm not very happy I'm glad that electro got buffed but burning could have been a good supportive elemental reaction :(

[@artificial_exp]

Its not a good thing at all. Its basically a dead reaction. Instead of it being to deal decent dmg and being an alternative to other pyro reactions its trash and vape/melt are still broken. Nothing changed basicallu

[@baldwinivofjerusalem47]

@@artificial_exp Dendro + Electro reactions with more electro and dendro characters coming out in the future, i don't think melt and vape will be enjoying the so called broken tittle but i can see why most people are in denial because they top tier op characters won't be so top tier anymore.

[@illusion9423]

Just use Xingqiu

[@artificial_exp]

@@baldwinivofjerusalem47 I dont think Vape will ever fall out of the top tier spot, its just that Aggravate might he just as good as it. You cant really compete with 40k+ AoE vapes from xiangling or 70k+ hu tao vapes

[@GawaHollow]

I'm just happy to see my favourite shinigami Thoma beeing finally useful in some team comps

[@infamousgoose8208]

I wasn’t expecting Collei to show up in one of these this quickly

[@alex9502]

Well even if collei's kit is not good enough compared to traveler and tignari, she is one of the few dendro characters to show up and tignari is a main dps so is not like we actually have options, soon or later she will go to amber tier to make company with her friend

[@alex9502]

@green pussycrusher🇷🇺 it does, because collei is in this comps because the lack of dendro supports, not because she is good, you can check keqing mains guide in deep guide where they say collei is bad lol (like many other characters and comps but copium inhalers cant accept it)

[@yanxii1527]

@green pussycrusher🇷🇺 He simply means, we have no other dendro supports so who else would we use

[@ryneis]

@green pussycrusher🇷🇺 collei main😂

[@2triedforthis830]

@@alex9502 nah she’s still good but there will be better characters but for a while she’s still gonna be useful

[@hecktor2892]

I think the biggest issue with burning is (imo) the only dendro character(s) who can consistently apply dendro for burning are tighnari and collei (together) YET

[@ziebus904]

Biggest issue with burn is that its trash

[@Ax19e4]

@@ziebus904 it’s really not tho u can melt/vape from it and get some additional dmg

[@hiarus8850]

@@Ax19e4 that additional damage is so small that it's pretty much pointless

[@Zeon_SpaceX]

Dendro catalyst... Still having vacation with Cryo catalyst

[@sturgeon9685]

Biggest issue is that there's only 3 dendro characters 💀 don't rag on a reaction when there are so few dendro characters out

[@292nns]

Im just soooooo disappointed for burning reaction. It literally does nothing dmg. I was so excited to do huge dmg with my main dps benny and he did worse than i ever imagined 😭😭

[@292nns]

@Félix i hope they make a pyro support like sara, gorou and shenhe

[@mohammadabosalem9602]

@@292nns that would be too op...

[@292nns]

@@mohammadabosalem9602 i know right?! 🤩

[@sidi5eyess]

Prob because melt and vaporise exists, they're tryna balance the meta. Electro go the biggest buff with quickened

[@x_Psyduck_x]

@@292nns C6 Bennett kinda already is full-pyro support

[@tkmk_neu]

I guess between Hyperbloom Kuki and Burgeon Thoma, Kuki would be a generally safe choice just because she heals... as you might not survive with just Thoma's shield

[@Max_is_weird]

I mean so far the best burgeon Thoma uses Kokomi so it's a trade of shield to heals (while Ayato does more damage but imo Kokomi brings comfort and that makes it safe)

[@uso6844]

@@Max_is_weird can you substitute Kokomi for Barb in Burgeon if you dont have Kokomi ?

[@Max_is_weird]

@@uso6844 it depends, if you have another hydro then I think it could work since I use Kokomi for her heals AND her skill has no ICD and I have no idea about Barbara but you can do some testing and see how the team works for you

[@uso6844]

@@Max_is_weirdi think i have all the Hydro Characters except for Kokomi

[@Max_is_weird]

@@uso6844 then you could try either Ayato or Childe and Yao Yao for the healer spot (since that team should have better damage)

[@DevilishlyDutch]

I think both this and a full team comparison are perfect for comparing the reactions, this one looks at only the reactions, but team will be the practical application of it, which are two very interesting sides of research!

[@AlexyGC]

Is there gonna be an update from the klee's guide when a new cathalyst comes up? I'd like to see her viability with yelan and other new characters as a nuke or even support

[@sakutaro3musik486]

there is no value in klee, she is an ok unit

[@Hayds126]

I think double hydro can work with klee but hu tao does more damage and not sure if it beats mono pyro. I don't think much else has changed for her though.

[@vani5632]

I think klee is more comfortable in a mono pyro team just bring kazuha or someone yk to swirl and group enemies sucrose works too but bennett as your buffer and healer and you still get a flexible spot you can put xiangling as an example I mean it's an advice cuz klee is hard to vape so mono pyro is comfortable and does a crazy amount of dmg but definitely not as big in number wise

[@MrDekasOne]

Klee is best in mono pyro she applies to much pyro to vape or melt her charged attacks consistently

[@_.soymilk]

@@vani5632 Agreed, I can’t see how any kind of reaction team could be as good for klee as mono pyro. It’s quite good tbh if you love klee and wanna play her it’s def competitive and clears abyss fast

[@dub2459]

This is to be expected, Dendro is basically just here to make electro viable, pyro doesn’t need a buff vap and melt already hit hard.

[@marcelorei2254]

I would love to see you use built characters and use Childe in the hiperbloom team as his riptide compensate for the lack of AOE of the Hiperbloom reaction. Keep up the good job.

[@ThatGenshinGirl]

These new reactions are fun to play, but i'm excited for characters that the main focus are said reactions. We can kinda assume that Nilou and Dehya will be Bloom and Burning/Burgeon focused characters, and Nahida will be their best support (hope she's a healer and buffer, Traveller and Collei support capabilities are just Dendro application).

[@shikasi]

I wonder how much "worth" to dendro reactions Nahida is going to add, since I'm still assuming Collei is Amber tier for Dendro and Traveler is Traveler tier for dendro, but because they're the only off-field dendro applicators in the game, we just don't know any better.

[@ahamadsemiyan7760]

Isn’t traveler’s dendro application enough? Are they not good enough?

[@kingdoom5022]

I disagree with that , yeah mihoyo gonna release better dendro characters than MC but not by much , traveller burst with hydro have literally the biggest AoE in the entire game , he have 75% uptime dendro application and he shares EM and at C6 he gives 12% damage bonus

[@Gio_in_6D]

I mean, if that's our "low tier" every dendro character I going to be incredible

[@Chopsparillo]

Not really. Dendro reactions work well with Traveler’s level of application. The only thing that could be better is a character with a longer off field aoe Dendro application duration.

[@x_Psyduck_x]

while traveler could be powercrept in future they still will be very much viable because of strong and consistend dendro application from burst, so dendro-traveler will remain better than any other element traveler we have so far.

[@sadkdhm2060]

For hyberbloom I used triple EM Raiden (I don't have kuki yet) with Kazuha, dendro traveler and Kokomi, I managed to 9 star abyss 12 with pure f2p setups it was a really fun team to use. In the video I saw you used hydro infused dendro traveler burst, it's good but I was using the electro infusion for more burst dmg and faster dendro application but at the same time I had issues with enemies going off the burst AOE but if you manage to keep them in it the time would be faster than the hydro infusion

[@guilherme.comelli]

infusing electro on travelers burst doesn't increase dendro application.

[@tobiewolfen01]

Very insightful. I was playing around with burning thinking maybe people were not giving it a fair chance. Nope, it simply doesn't hold up as well as the other dendro reactions.

[@autobee23]

I personally use Burgeon the most since I’m a Thoma main, and it’s fun to watch things go boom. 😂

[@reconserra9997]

Right now, I don't care who's the strongest. I'm just happy that the MC has finally gotten his redemption arc.

[@joeyisabsb1]

Kuki as well

[@wisteriamuffler8850]

yeah do build the characters with 4 star weapons, it would be interesting. Also, love the fact that Thoma is somewhat competent now, functionality wise.

[@ziggymugstube]

I was really hoping they would add a Phys debuff along with burning making it an alternative to superconduct. Who knows, maybe that'll be a feature of a future character or artifact set or something. (My poor Xinyan still waiting for her time to shine).

[@FranciscoJG]

That's actually a nice idea.

[@Devilboy_1029]

I was hoping for a set like vv for Anemo, Geo and Dendro

[@RuneKatashima]

Wow, an actually good idea in the YT comment section?

[@kirin1230]

That's an excellent idea actually. I don't care for physical at all but it would have been nice for balancing... And Xinyan.

[@maxbrown8695]

i watch you do the ads not only to critique your acting but out of respect for the work you put in the game and recording and i have to say well done my friend in both regards

[@HusennHudson]

I really like Hyper Kuki (Kuki Huperbloom) but still farming to get her a better piece

[@MikuVocaloidHD]

I think burning will be usable when they give us a character with specific passive to make it work, like Nilou with bloom. Maybe Dehya.

[@Axterix13]

I hope they don't ruin Dehya by making her tied to burning. It would that be a waste of her awesome character design. And it would also suck for burn to only be viable if you use one specific character.

[@toolazytoholdagrudge1148]

@@Axterix13 as if we don't have enough pyro dps for vape and melt reaction. This patch is all about dendro and she might be the best contender for buffing burning reactions like what they did to Nilou.

[@sanzuriver2959]

Honestly, I love this kind of comparison over the pointless DPS showdowns. Even better if we can see some creative concept teams in the future. (However, I don't think some concept team works yet with the current roster of Dendro characters) Eitherway, take all my likes.

[@angelsadventure4996]

Pyro main : we are going to burn everything. Hydro main : we'll forever be relevant. Electro main : finally, we'll shine!

[@Yuu-sn3ot]

thanks! this is the type of comparison i've been waiting for

[@banjokazuya2913]

Man I'll deffo pull for Kuki next time she is featured on a banner

[@weirdenoughIguess]

I just got her from standard

[@RejectedInch]

So far Raiden -bloom is my favorite, with a flex slot that is either Zhongli or Kazuha depending on what i am fighting ( remember the mantra " Kazuha will be irrelevant with dendro" ? Happy news: it was utter bs)

[@aciesara5444]

I don't remember. In fact, this is the first time I read that mantra.

[@x_Psyduck_x]

@@aciesara5444 some people said that dendro would be some kind of nerf for anemo characters because it doesn't swirl which even then was very questionable because well...everything else swirls.

[@deltaspecies1697]

Dendro really made sucrose even more broken lol. She was arguably of the top 5 units in the game and she got even better. Kazuha i think didnt receive that much of a boost. He didnt get any weaker either. Venti is venti. When he works hes the best unit in the game. Otherwise hes just a good unit

[@Kinich-f2p]

Plus there new weapon good for kazhua

[@Blue-zh8px]

Kazuha adds nothing to hyperbloom teams tho unless he's C2, which would still be inferior to Sucrose.

[@gamingfa6767]

BRO HYPERBLOOM IS OPPP my kuki is 420 em (rn is level 40) and my team is kuki(em) furina water apply and kirara (i have no good dendro character) for dendro and layla for shield

[@Himmelswind]

I really love playing Hyperbloom, it feels so flashy and quick. But I thought aggravate was more fitting for my Keqing due to Electro dmg. Therefore I would love any further comparisons you are doing!

[@saveacoweatapanda4077]

loved it! need more of this man :D also the sponsored game looked pretty dope!

[@Simca0503]

Would love to see the teams fully built and with spread and aggravate as well. Awesome work Iwintolose!

[@Red-zh3pk]

Burgeon is so fun if throwing a electro unit. running Raiden, MC, kokomi, and Thoma. So fun!

[@ittobeingamood]

The showcase is good, but having Dendro traveller replace Bennett on burgeon would be better. Hyperbloom has a 100 more EM Due to Dendro passive, and Having Dendro traveller creates more cores your Thoma can react to. You have too much pyro application that's why burning occured even with a single target... Thoma's application is just enough. For me, I use Kokomi as my main driver for her 100% E up time, plus hydro autos. Thoma is my pyro applicator, and I use Collei and Dendro traveller for off field Dendro application. But thank you for the showcase :>, even with that set up Burgeon still performed good. Also, Single target : Hyperbloom; Multi-Target : Burgeon. And both reactions can reach the flying hydro birds with no problem.

[@shin8731]

i was asking my self this question and u uploaded the same second :0

[@jp754]

kinda unfair with the first showcase since diona shield did so much self damage to the vishap

[@juanvaldivia8001]

Gotta take a moment to appreciate my man's dodge skills, they're on point good stuff

[@DmtryAtroz]

I'd like to see a limited to 4* average full team Because at least for me, i went with a Tasserbloom team to clear this current abyss and went amazingly ngl Sucrose - Yelan - DMC - Shinobu

[@arashi302]

Actually that's hyperbloom xD though yeah it does have electro charge in it, nvm

[@arashi302]

But yeah agreed, it clears amazingly :D

[@Holycolander]

Same but i use fichl sucrose dmc and mona since i dont have any other hydro char The dmg is pretty good especially for my ar

[@vino-k5650]

Imo I would love to see her burgeon and hyperbloom perform with the hydro character build as dps. Cuz hydro characters are specialized in their vaporize too. With proper build hydro, burgeon will also be as good as hyperbloom

[@hex8113]

If there was a pyro character with green hair, the thumbnail would've been perfect.

[@raphasage]

Not sure ifanyone pointed that to you but burning should function for a overload composition. I use: c6 benny, dentro traveler,albedo and kuki/shogun. Even liza should perform nicely for the electro slot. Love those testing/comparing videos you make! Keep going!

[@mega17]

Something worth considering is Kuki's team is benefitting immensely from Quicken & Aggravate. It's pretty much unavoidable. I also think it would be worth testing what these teams are like of you didn't avoid having good atk/crit stats too. Fridge doesn't have to be bloom focused, it could be more of a cryo-dendro hybrid-dps team.

[@AzureDrag0n1]

I use Kuki hyper bloom and aggravate and spread are negligible. What is actually significant is electro charged. My hyper bloom can do 28k x 2 every pulse on average. My electro charge can do some ~10k x however many enemies there are / sec. 2 enemies you will dish out 40k damage but 3 enemies will dish out 60k from one electro charge reaction. However hyper bloom can target different characters so if 1 of the blooms targets a different enemy it will also proc so it can be 84k damage from one proc of hyper bloom. If all 3 target the same enemy then it will only be 56k. I think that is not bad for Kuki. I do not have Dendro set quite built yet so I just use the Noblesse set to pump up everyone on my team instead. Maybe if my Kuki had very cracked stats then aggravate might do something more significant. Mostly she just has 4pc Gilded Dreams that add up to about 1000 EM.

[@wildfire_]

fun fact, if your running xingqiu as the sole hydro in hyperbloom, you can use kuuki's burst to apply electro to dendro traveller's burst before it can infuse hydro

[@Oldsah]

I imagine an ATK / EM scaling Dendro Character coming out.

[@alex9502]

Imagine what?

[@ryry..]

yaoyao

[@Oldsah]

@@alex9502 someone that scales well with both atk and em. i bothced the joke,sry.

[@tehCostHD]

@@Oldsah uhhhh tignari? What am I missing

[@sardiniapiedmont]

That’s tighnari

[@chuii_]

I didn't know about burning reaction effects, now I know why I was dying really fast with my Bennet in Co-op

[@HaeRosae]

I always love these videos but god dang all of the characters at full volume going at once is so overwhelming.

[@red-nt2cx]

great vid. still would've loved to see how spread/aggravate would compare to these side by side. thank you.

[@jamesheo106]

Best genshin content creator period

[@joshflare4503]

Shoutouts to everyone who 90’d kuki day 1 🤙

[@applyinggaming9529]

would love to see it for future characters that synergizes with specific reactions

[@annieyl]

Great video as always, IWTL!! I know you talked about how spread and aggravate are the best dendro reactions, but I'd be super interested in seeing a video of electro DPSes with and without spread/aggravate to see how they stack up against the traditional teams for these electro DPSes. I hope you don't *spread* yourself too thin, though - take care of yourself sir :))

[@jasonstor4629]

fridge with kaz instaed of collei is way better ( obviously) traveller is more than enough for dendro application

[@jasonstor4629]

As you can group all the bombs and enemies together in one spot, plus obvs damage bonus for hidro

[@Romashka_Sov]

Main rule was "only 4★ characters with one exception", so only Sucrose can go

[@MichaelK34752]

I LOVE hyperbloom and learning that its effect is competitive with other dendro reactions is cherry on top. i just love it for ease of use, too many eremites have simply walked away from my dendro cores and that really killed bloom for me. and without UBER strong hydro application (only xingqu on my acc) mass producing them to force explosion wasn't really an option

[@Pelfmiester]

I've been trying out a Yanfei Burgeon team. Haven't tried it in the Abyss yet but it feels pretty good in the over world. Yanfei, Dendro MC, Collei, Kokomi.

[@christyobrien7680]

might build yanfei instead of Thoma cause I have skyward atlas how do u recommend to build her as a sub dps cause ill use mona instead of kokomi

[@arifamirul9126]

I like using Hyperbloom, exactly i loves seeing skill like homing missile, ningguang, dori E also Tighnari Q and charge attack

[@thomaspq3447]

Vape vs aggravate when

[@alex9502]

Lmao no, is like comparing melt vs overloaded

[@shura4365]

@@alex9502 Aggravate is much better than overload.

[@scucumber9730]

it's so obvious that vape wins 😔

[@thomaspq3447]

@@scucumber9730 yes but i want to see how close aggravate is to vape

[@yanxii1527]

They're totally different things. Vape is a simple 2x multiplier. Aggrevate however, will increase the dmg, but electo is still subject to its "death by a thousand cuts". Electro, chars (except Raiden) cannot output that much dmg in 1 instance, however overtime, they defo can do loads. Vape exact opposite, Big dmg once, then a while b4 they do it again

[@TengouX]

I had a lot of trouble making up team comps for spiral abyss because I was just lacking in good, well built characters, but now Dendro exists my waifu Kuki has powered up tremendously for very little investment. Just full EM artifacts with an iron sting and she's good to go. Now I got a new Quicken/Hyperbloom team with Tighnari, Kuki and Mona (with Dendro traveler for Dendro resonance) that is more than sufficient to keep me alive thanks to Kuki's heals, and the fact that Kuki's healing also scales off EM means I can sacrifice HP to pump my EM without losing much of my healing. So essentially Kuki's new role in Dendro comps means I can free up my standard supports for other teams, and this was my first 36 star abyss

[@aatroxotp.]

I love this type of videos!

[@knightenchanter7908]

Benny shouldn't be used in burgeon. He just interferes. It should have been 2 dendro, xq and thoma. Theres's too much pyro in your burgeon team and it's interfering in their rotation. Remove that Bennett and use a 2nd dendro. You are running out of dendro application constantly due to the excess burning procs in that burgeon team.

[@infine-8222]

You should try using electrocharge masking for burgeon. Team is DMC-XQ-Fischl-Thoma. EC works conceptually similar to fridging for the purpose of seed production (exact mechanics are different, but the goal is the same - more seeds per dendro application). I think it also prevents burning for the most part. Though you may get a few stray hyperblooms and overloads in the process.

[@fusionfallmaster]

I personally like using burgeon with Kazuha's swirl as the trigger. Kazuha's high EM and VV shred causes burgeon to deal so much more damage. My go-to combo is MC burst, Xingqiu burst, Bennet burst, Kazuha burst then auto attacks. Even though anemo has no direct interaction with dendro, using swirl to trigger burgeon allows both elements to capitalize on one source of EM.

[@christyobrien7680]

might use this and have ganyu melt on the other side

[@Wourly]

Would be nice, if they add some burning specialized character..

[@Pavme]

guys dont forget, hyperbloom and burgeon are prob a lot better than fridge if you are building damage on your other untis not trigger reactions such as xingqiu. For the kokomi fridge team, you cant increase the damage much as non of the characters have good dps. It has a lower ceiling and higher damage in lower investment compared to the others

[@natsumihi3432]

You can improve fridge by using ganyu/rosaria instead of diona and it also has slot for 2 new better dendro characters in future

[@Pavme]

@@natsumihi3432 yes this too. using anemo in that team would be better tbh if you are using ganyu since her damage is a significant part

[@kaptinkitten3683]

I have a feeling burning will continue to be bad(mostly inconsistent) until we get a character with constant on demand dendro application. Maybe a catalyst or dendro infusion.

[@xXasdfMAN12Xx]

I would really love to see how burning stacks up now that Nahida is in the game, that consistent dendro application would be a lot better in this scenario

[@skybox4080]

I'd definitely like to see this repeated with some other underlying reactions for hyperbloom and burgeon. Things like hyperfridge and salad, and quick burgeon and freeze burgeon.

[@antsensei1481]

Have you tried using 4pc lavawalker to increase the damage of burning alongside it being a full EM build? Im sure it would do better than what was resulted. Another thing, I think Albedo's burst wouldve helped also

[@Axterix13]

I don't think there's room for Albedo in the team. You need 2 dendros to keep the fire going and a pyro. That leaves room for one character, and that pretty much means an anemo for VV, because -40% pyro resistance (and grouping, swirl, and EM/DMG buffs).

[@antsensei1481]

@@Axterix13 I think it would be nice to have a future dendro character that does apply a lot of dendro

[@karimhegazy3866]

Wait does DMG% increase reaction damage? I thought only level, EM, specific artifact set effects, and element resistance affects it

[@kertenhello9]

I just like watching your videos in general, so i certainly wont say no to another one :P

[@lofreeq]

On this channel I drop the like already before watching the video

[@arandomguy517]

I would say something creative, but I can’t think of anything

[@troddenleper8915]

I want to know if Xinyan can be a good burgeon team activator. She has shielding and her shield pulses pyro on surroundings like kuki shinobu.

[@mohammadabosalem9602]

If she hits more than 1 enemy sadly+if she does her cool down is long

[@Romashka_Sov]

IMO, Thoma has thicker shield and has good Pyro application, when with Xinyan you need to hit at least 2 enemies every time, application has much lower area than Kuki (area like Barbara's healing circle, is there any bloom related teams with Barbara?) and gives only 6 pulses over shield duration. So it kinda works, but not as good as you can expect, as it is much harder to control (C2 Xinyan needed though)

[@n1c3tr1ck2]

Xinyan has high uptime which is bad and have a high application which is bad

[@VictorIbelles]

C4 yanfei would be a good shield/burgeon activator to

[@Romashka_Sov]

@@VictorIbelles c4 Yanfei can be burgeon activator only on field, as her shield does NOT apply pyro. You can use Klee with same efficiency

[@GothiQhaQer]

I love a good fridge team and this one is a very solid one 🙌🏾

[@summerheat.]

Burning will get its redemption arc, when we reach the land of fire 🔥

[@eruhinmakhtar9162]

If we ever get a hard hitting, slow hydo applicator, then burning will shine because it will allow forward vapes.

[@darkgix6326]

I love it when using my aggravate Team and it starts raining. Boom everything gone even faster bcause of add hyperblooms

[@shiningsun4023]

Great video !

[@Luc_Starboy]

Tbh i think bloom is the best bc i dont see why u would use burgen and burning in the first place if u have vape and burgeon is also really hard to use i think hyperbloom is much easer to use but i think u could just play aggravate

[@mohdx77]

People are sleeping on burgeon Bennett. Pyro archon is back at it again

[@Farisss11]

We should agree at this point hydro is the best element Pyro need hydro or cryo Cryo need hydro or pyro Dendro need hydro or electro Electro need hydro or dendro Like almost all element works well with hydro Cant wait for fontaine archon to broke the meta

[@n1c3tr1ck2]

Zajeff77 butgeon includes an electro character which also activates overload with thoma thus making the reactions deal more damage, so yeah the problem with the burgeon team on the video is the existing dendro characters are bad at applying dendro, minus tighnari because he is an spread character Also why put bennet on the team if you want a functioning burgeon we could use xq and dmc. Burgeon is average at best as of now, if you dont have ayato or yelan but if you have electro it can trigger overcharge as well making it a hyper reactive team. Note that thoma only needs em and not atk, dmc nor collei doesnt have good dps where as hyperbloom has multi units that deals alot of dmg, bugeon high dps came from thoma and the hydro unit. If we get anothwr dendro character it will buff the qol and damage of burgeon as well.

[@n1c3tr1ck2]

Also collei is a bad dendro character she applies 3 dendro on ult and 2 from her skill. With her being the bloom reactor ,burgeon would suck because of her low application.

[@EternalDream]

I'd like to share some more thoughts on Burn: Collei by herself CAN fuel Burn consistently (especially with Sacrificial, but with c2 she doesn't even necessarily need that if you can stick near enemies) by spacing her Q and E apart, and is the best option multi-target due to her Q's AoE. Tighnari is better for single target (though that's a bit cheating with his personal damage), but struggles keeping dendro on more than one enemy. In addition, her Q's ICD is even "forced" by Mihoyo to let Burn drop and then retrigger immediately (losing at most 1 tick in the process), which allows stuff like Gilded Dreams to re-activate (which it does not when refreshing Burn - that's not a reaction!), and resets the Burn Gauge to 2U (preventing swirls from deleting it when they happen too fast, which is especially important with Venti's high swirl count in Q) On top of this, double dendro in Burn is a mistake. DMC does very little to help short of maybe triggering Sapwood, who's leaf is terrible to pick up, and his Q is a liability more often than it helps. Dendro Resonance also only lets Burn get 80 EM, not the full 100, and at the amount of EM you typically have, that's a very small effective bonus to the team. Instead, full EM Xiangling (if we keep it to 4* units) or instructor Zhongli (if we allow 5*) are much more beneficial, with the former having pyro shred and EM ascension stat, and the latter having universal shred and an ever helpful shield. Pyro shred is vital, as VV sucrose already shows. It's still the worst Dendro reaction, don't get me wrong, but there's some nuance to it, and a burn-dedicated pyro character can absolutely solve quite a few of its shortcomings. Better than Shatter still :^)

[@MisoSanSoup]

Very interesting video! It would be amazing if you could do a video about burgeon Amber! This build makes her viable at c0 which is amazing!

[@abhipatil6409]

burning is basically just a "kill your own character" reaction and do nothing to the enemy

[@pedromarinsbede1584]

Im using Mona's hyperbloom, with Mona, MC, XQ and Kuki. My better 12-1-1 time are around 13s ^^

[@Fco2k7]

I have the same comp but with EM Raiden. I need to get full stars on the 12-1 floor. I'll try a Hyperbloom team on that floor.

[@morrowthewizard3945]

this is interesting thanks for compiling.

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

Using burgeon with Hutao is like giving her AOE Damages, and as it's Hutao it's kinda controllable when burgeon happens thus you can just use DMC with it.

[@karimhegazy3866]

I donno about mixing hutao and burgeon together tho... She will very easily die and will need a shield. But then you just used up 2 slots and burgeon would be pointless. (Plus the element of the shielder will interfere with the reactions: geo frpm zhongli and cryo from diona). Better go for vape. Unless you want something fun and different then go for it i guess :)

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

@@karimhegazy3866 again, it's just to give her some AOE reach. With Zhongli it's where I find the team usable, and on AOE his pillar rarely hit everyone after all. Sure it isn't good for ST, I found Zhongli, Hutao, Yelan and Xinqiu better for that.

[@whisperwalkful]

​@@MuhammadKharismawanHu Tao applies pyro too quickly to make much use of burgeon, but Yanfei is much better, as yanfei can swap in and out without losing pyro infusion (she always has pyro), and she brings her own shield to cancel out burgeon dmg.

[@consolog]

In fridge team because of Diona shield Geo Vishal HP gone very low but this did not happen for burning team. Same happened with Burgen with Tohma shield. So it's not fair? IDK.

[@yanxii1527]

💀Most stupid caomment. He mentiooned that that was the fastest time and it was the same for the other side so it balanced out

[@consolog]

@@yanxii1527 he only mentioned for Tohma not for Diona. You stupid comment. XDXDXD

[@pedrosilva-di4lg]

GREAT VIDEO! Pls do a 4* weapons with aggravate and spread

[@darksider6376]

it would be cool if the burning dmg was based on enemy's max hp..like every tick do 1% of enemy's max health.

[@merin9357]

Amazing video! What is the song that plays at 3:23?

[@ravenger2445]

Quick question, when Nahida comes out, will she be be better with Deepwood memories or gilded dreams? for some reason, the game is pretty much only giving me Deepwood, with gilded appearing every 80 resin. Also, I plan to run a Hyperbloom team with Kuki, will the Dendro cores' damage scale off of Kuki's EM or Nahida's EM?

[@doublekc]

If Nahida is the only dendro user, wear Deepwood. If she has a teammate that wears deepwood, you can wear Gilded with it. Hyperbloom dmg will be scaled off Kuki's EM as she is the one who triggers it. 1150 EM Kuki's hyperbloom does around 31-32k dmg iirc.

[@seancuss6754]

I would be surprised if you saw this, as the video is 2 weeks old, but what if instead of diona, you used anemo character with VV artifact set and swirled dendro?