DENDRO REACTION SHOWDOWN! Which is the STRONGEST? Burning vs Bloom vs Burgeon vs Hyperbloom!

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In today's video, we take a look at the transformative reaction damage that dendro provides! Obviously spread and aggravate are extremely powerful, but how good are burning, bloom, burgeon, and hyperbloom? Find out in today's video! This is for Genshin Impact patch 3.0.
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@IWinToLose
@IWinToLose Жыл бұрын
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@Carbuncle0168
@Carbuncle0168 Жыл бұрын
Hyperbloom the best
@bombituico
@bombituico Жыл бұрын
What the f is that name “Divine W” LMAO
@dionyvaldez5588
@dionyvaldez5588 Жыл бұрын
try hutao db burgeon team
@angelr2404
@angelr2404 Жыл бұрын
Is this game mobile only?
@kukimains9627
@kukimains9627 Жыл бұрын
we Love Hyperbloom 🥰🥰
@lil_Perro
@lil_Perro Жыл бұрын
I swear burning is more of a threat to your characters than to the enemies. I burned some grass with a kazuha pyro infused E and did about 5k dps to myself . Barely got out of that with 2k hp.
@Romashka_Sov
@Romashka_Sov Жыл бұрын
Imagine how devastating it was in 1.0, when players had 8k hp, and before devs nerfed burning...
@Stormtide
@Stormtide Жыл бұрын
dude really lost 5k health every second, damn
@sarahboes6829
@sarahboes6829 Жыл бұрын
@@Romashka_SovWasn't the burning nerf directly following a burning buff in, like, 1.6 or something? Certainly wasn't in 1.0
@Romashka_Sov
@Romashka_Sov Жыл бұрын
@@sarahboes6829 actually, it was in 1.1, just thought this since the beginning. Found news from Nov.13.2020
@xiankyotakazawa8213
@xiankyotakazawa8213 Жыл бұрын
Bro got 5k damage per second (dps) for burning, dang
@theianeia
@theianeia Жыл бұрын
Man, they pretty much killed burning when they nerfed it's elemental gauge, shame. I was actually quite excited to use burning for my melt Ganyu.
@pokecailan3006
@pokecailan3006 Жыл бұрын
Same ;-;
@lostblueboy
@lostblueboy Жыл бұрын
i agree, they should kept the gauge for cryo and hydro teams to finally use vaporize and melt properly and not just benefit pyro but the numbers should have been kept low. but they did both so now its useless
@raurisaurus5057
@raurisaurus5057 Жыл бұрын
Burning actually isn't that bad. IWinToLose did a horrible showcase of it here. If you pay attention, he always used Collei and travelers bursts together which is NOT what you do when burning relies on dendro application every 2 seconds. Which traveler can do. (Meaning that burning had loads of downtime). It's also funny that the other comps require multiple reactions, but for burning who's best candidate is Xiangling, IWinToLose instead used Bennet, making burning unable to do multiple reactions and extremely nerfing it. Another thing id like to point out is that burning if used with Xiangling, enables multi reactions like quad melt/overloads and potential vapes. The issue is it requires Xiangling due to the fact that 1U pyro isn't enough on its own, however that 1U pyro helps Xiangling with pyro aura application. Burning+Xiangling enable Chongyun to Quad melt with his burst. (Only Amber can do it efficiently). Burning+Xiangling enable overloads to also proc. I used a team with yae Miko. Burning+Xiangling can also proc melt and overloads at the same time in a team with yae Miko and Rosaria. However this team can't quad melt for Chongyun. The best part is that burning can't be stripped off due to Xiangling constantly reapplying pyro, and the extra aura burning applies helps Xiangling do other procs. Also note if you replace Rosaria with Kokomi, she will vape whilst the other reactions will still proc. (it's also a must to use electro or hydro in these comps (altho I highly recommend electro over hydro) so that you can infuse travelers burst to do consistent dendro application without it exploding.
@lostmyname1874
@lostmyname1874 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day , burning/bloom/hyperbloom/Burgeon still does the same amount of damage with same amount of EM. Unlike the others, burning do several little dmg over time and sigle target but the total amount is still the same. Edit: typos
@purplerainPR
@purplerainPR Жыл бұрын
both reactions are bad its just that burning is worse lol, I know he didn't want to max out damage but any dendro reaction outside of quicken/spread is just a fun reaction
@OC_
@OC_ Жыл бұрын
Basically. Use burgeon and bloom for multiple enemies. Use hyperbloom for single target scenarios. Don't use burning.
@illusion9423
@illusion9423 Жыл бұрын
Where aggravate
@flswttr
@flswttr Жыл бұрын
and use aggravate everywhere lol
@willywo6304
@willywo6304 Жыл бұрын
@@illusion9423 aggravate is another story, because aggravate level same as melt / vaporizer team, you need build lot of crit value + atk%
@willywo6304
@willywo6304 Жыл бұрын
@@illusion9423 burning, bloom, hyperbloom and burgeon, is simpel build, just play EM + Level
@reizero246
@reizero246 Жыл бұрын
@@flswttr The problem with aggravate are the characters. Fischl is nuts, but the one who can take advantage from her broken A4 in Aggravate is keqing who has a low damage. You have to choose if using healing (Kuki), shielding (Zhongli) or damage (kazuha/sucrose), and current dendro characters are too much bad at aggravate except for Thignari, but using Thignari you are wasting other comps.
@LyteArken
@LyteArken Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a full kit team redo these runs to see how it all compares. If you do, pls give yourself a break and take your time. Love the work you do.
@chirb008
@chirb008 Жыл бұрын
this is just gonna become in another Yelan showcase
@grismatics
@grismatics Жыл бұрын
@do not 🤓
@reed3863
@reed3863 Жыл бұрын
Hyperbloom is insanely good without needing any crits..just stack ER on everyone and EM on kuki shinobu(and get her to level 90). Easiest team to build with very cheap investment. Don't even need talent levels. Perhaps xingqiu's skills and burst for more dmg and shinobu's skill for more healing, but that's still optional.
@beastunleashed657
@beastunleashed657 Жыл бұрын
yep! Fridge is similar as well, but it is more utility dependent cause you gotta freeze your enemy
@wandersonvitor3054
@wandersonvitor3054 Жыл бұрын
I love Hyperbloom with Kuki
@robinreyes7657
@robinreyes7657 Жыл бұрын
@@beastunleashed657 idk about fridge i tested it and i dont like it.. if im gonna go fridge ill go for full freeze team and put dendro to someoone can ignite dendro like hyperbloom/burgeon
@beastunleashed657
@beastunleashed657 Жыл бұрын
@@robinreyes7657 who did you play it with? I used Dendro Lumine, Ganyu and Koko, and the experience was amazing
@robinreyes7657
@robinreyes7657 Жыл бұрын
@@beastunleashed657 i did kokomi, ayaka,diona and mc yeah the dmg is nice but idk i still like my old team replace mc to bennet again and made a hyperbloom on mc
@mafimok
@mafimok Жыл бұрын
Would love to see SPREAD/AGGRAVATE vs MELT and VAPE. Sure, abyss buffs dendro but we also have overworld to test.
@stylerxo3654
@stylerxo3654 Жыл бұрын
Comparing most teams to Hu Tao double Hydro or Childe International atm is unfair. Vape has the best teams in the game.
@cosmictrainer2919
@cosmictrainer2919 Жыл бұрын
Not fair since the best dendro support dmc can't do dmg at all
@-Four-
@-Four- Жыл бұрын
lets wait for Nahida then we'll come back to this. MC is simply not enough atm
@vukkicos5688
@vukkicos5688 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see how older reactions (such as Swirl, Electro-Charged and Overload) would preform compared to the newer ones
@jaguh9069
@jaguh9069 Жыл бұрын
My guess is they are still better because you already have multiple characters to fully utilize every team comp reaction with fully flesh out rotation. Dendro is still new and the best dendro enabler is funnily enough the MC. Wait until we have a dendro Xingqiu to have good comparison berween all these reaction.
@reothomas956
@reothomas956 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@shachede6828
@shachede6828 Жыл бұрын
@@jaguh9069 nah! Aggravate and spread is on another level. It’s like the melt and vape of electro
@demoncloud6147
@demoncloud6147 Жыл бұрын
From my testing Electro-Charge does about 1/3 of the damage of Hyperbloom and Overload does about 1/2 the damage of Hyperbloom for same EM
@reothomas956
@reothomas956 Жыл бұрын
@@demoncloud6147 Electro charged can crit i believe so crits and talent level also matter
@juancamilogomezmunera1260
@juancamilogomezmunera1260 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what developers have against Damage over time teams. In many games they allow this kind of gameplay but always makes it trash. Poison, venom, burging, corrosion and things like that could be paired with dashes and mobility checks to ensure the player is engage but in a different play style that just landing blows.
@OC_
@OC_ Жыл бұрын
Hyperbloom is the most fun and easy to use in my opinion. Also yes, I would like to see how these reactions do when the characters are built better.
@Nowaylarry
@Nowaylarry Жыл бұрын
The thing is with a Kuki trigger hyperbloom team you could use literally anyone that won't interrupt the reaction in place of Collei. Traveler + Xingqui is enough for core production. Beidou for example. Her burst will never target the cores and she brings a ton of extra damage. Plus she would offer some AOE coverage that hyperbloom lacks. Fischl could also work since you do get some electro charge and aggravate uptime. She will occasionally hit the cores but it is pretty infrequent. You could also just drop Kuki entirely and use an anemo character for the hyperbloom trigger (A ton more team damage at the cost of mitigation).
@infamousgoose8208
@infamousgoose8208 Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t expecting Collei to show up in one of these this quickly
@Chkprofilename
@Chkprofilename Жыл бұрын
*kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3TJipxta5hnqLc* Finally it's here after so long
@alex9502
@alex9502 Жыл бұрын
Well even if collei's kit is not good enough compared to traveler and tignari, she is one of the few dendro characters to show up and tignari is a main dps so is not like we actually have options, soon or later she will go to amber tier to make company with her friend
@alex9502
@alex9502 Жыл бұрын
@green pussycrusher🇷🇺 it does, because collei is in this comps because the lack of dendro supports, not because she is good, you can check keqing mains guide in deep guide where they say collei is bad lol (like many other characters and comps but copium inhalers cant accept it)
@yanxii1527
@yanxii1527 Жыл бұрын
@green pussycrusher🇷🇺 He simply means, we have no other dendro supports so who else would we use
@ryneis
@ryneis Жыл бұрын
@green pussycrusher🇷🇺 collei main😂
@bennett4218
@bennett4218 Жыл бұрын
Im just soooooo disappointed for burning reaction. It literally does nothing dmg. I was so excited to do huge dmg with my main dps benny and he did worse than i ever imagined 😭😭
@bennett4218
@bennett4218 Жыл бұрын
@Félix i hope they make a pyro support like sara, gorou and shenhe
@mohammadabosalem9602
@mohammadabosalem9602 Жыл бұрын
@@bennett4218 that would be too op...
@bennett4218
@bennett4218 Жыл бұрын
@@mohammadabosalem9602 i know right?! 🤩
@sidi5eyess
@sidi5eyess Жыл бұрын
Prob because melt and vaporise exists, they're tryna balance the meta. Electro go the biggest buff with quickened
@x_Psyduck_x
@x_Psyduck_x Жыл бұрын
@@bennett4218 C6 Bennett kinda already is full-pyro support
@DevilishlyDutch
@DevilishlyDutch Жыл бұрын
I think both this and a full team comparison are perfect for comparing the reactions, this one looks at only the reactions, but team will be the practical application of it, which are two very interesting sides of research!
@lukeh419
@lukeh419 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm happy that burning isn't very good. Mostly because Pyro has been the focus of Genshin meta longer than nearly any other element and still remains very good because Vape and Melt exist, plus Pyro resonance. These reactions help boost underused characters like Kuki and Thoma without encouraging people to "Just use Bennet" like we've been hearing for the last 1.5 years.
@Ilovechickenssss
@Ilovechickenssss Жыл бұрын
I'm not very happy I'm glad that electro got buffed but burning could have been a good supportive elemental reaction :(
@artificial_exp
@artificial_exp Жыл бұрын
Its not a good thing at all. Its basically a dead reaction. Instead of it being to deal decent dmg and being an alternative to other pyro reactions its trash and vape/melt are still broken. Nothing changed basicallu
@baldwinivofjerusalem47
@baldwinivofjerusalem47 Жыл бұрын
@@artificial_exp Dendro + Electro reactions with more electro and dendro characters coming out in the future, i don't think melt and vape will be enjoying the so called broken tittle but i can see why most people are in denial because they top tier op characters won't be so top tier anymore.
@illusion9423
@illusion9423 Жыл бұрын
Just use Xingqiu
@artificial_exp
@artificial_exp Жыл бұрын
@@baldwinivofjerusalem47 I dont think Vape will ever fall out of the top tier spot, its just that Aggravate might he just as good as it. You cant really compete with 40k+ AoE vapes from xiangling or 70k+ hu tao vapes
@Yuu-sn3ot
@Yuu-sn3ot Жыл бұрын
thanks! this is the type of comparison i've been waiting for
@hecktor2892
@hecktor2892 Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest issue with burning is (imo) the only dendro character(s) who can consistently apply dendro for burning are tighnari and collei (together) YET
@ziebus904
@ziebus904 Жыл бұрын
Biggest issue with burn is that its trash
@Ax19e4
@Ax19e4 Жыл бұрын
@@ziebus904 it’s really not tho u can melt/vape from it and get some additional dmg
@hiarus8850
@hiarus8850 Жыл бұрын
@@Ax19e4 that additional damage is so small that it's pretty much pointless
@chiucheeyong
@chiucheeyong Жыл бұрын
Dendro catalyst... Still having vacation with Cryo catalyst
@sturgeon9685
@sturgeon9685 Жыл бұрын
Biggest issue is that there's only 3 dendro characters 💀 don't rag on a reaction when there are so few dendro characters out
@GawaHollow
@GawaHollow Жыл бұрын
I'm just happy to see my favourite shinigami Thoma beeing finally useful in some team comps
@saveacoweatapanda4077
@saveacoweatapanda4077 Жыл бұрын
loved it! need more of this man :D also the sponsored game looked pretty dope!
@maxbrown8695
@maxbrown8695 Жыл бұрын
i watch you do the ads not only to critique your acting but out of respect for the work you put in the game and recording and i have to say well done my friend in both regards
@tkmk_neu
@tkmk_neu Жыл бұрын
I guess between Hyperbloom Kuki and Burgeon Thoma, Kuki would be a generally safe choice just because she heals... as you might not survive with just Thoma's shield
@Max_is_weird
@Max_is_weird Жыл бұрын
I mean so far the best burgeon Thoma uses Kokomi so it's a trade of shield to heals (while Ayato does more damage but imo Kokomi brings comfort and that makes it safe)
@uso6844
@uso6844 Жыл бұрын
@@Max_is_weird can you substitute Kokomi for Barb in Burgeon if you dont have Kokomi ?
@Max_is_weird
@Max_is_weird Жыл бұрын
@@uso6844 it depends, if you have another hydro then I think it could work since I use Kokomi for her heals AND her skill has no ICD and I have no idea about Barbara but you can do some testing and see how the team works for you
@uso6844
@uso6844 Жыл бұрын
@@Max_is_weirdi think i have all the Hydro Characters except for Kokomi
@Max_is_weird
@Max_is_weird Жыл бұрын
@@uso6844 then you could try either Ayato or Childe and Yao Yao for the healer spot (since that team should have better damage)
@marcelorei2254
@marcelorei2254 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you use built characters and use Childe in the hiperbloom team as his riptide compensate for the lack of AOE of the Hiperbloom reaction. Keep up the good job.
@tobiewolfen01
@tobiewolfen01 Жыл бұрын
Very insightful. I was playing around with burning thinking maybe people were not giving it a fair chance. Nope, it simply doesn't hold up as well as the other dendro reactions.
@Simca0503
@Simca0503 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the teams fully built and with spread and aggravate as well. Awesome work Iwintolose!
@annieyl
@annieyl Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, IWTL!! I know you talked about how spread and aggravate are the best dendro reactions, but I'd be super interested in seeing a video of electro DPSes with and without spread/aggravate to see how they stack up against the traditional teams for these electro DPSes. I hope you don't *spread* yourself too thin, though - take care of yourself sir :))
@ThatGenshinGirl
@ThatGenshinGirl Жыл бұрын
These new reactions are fun to play, but i'm excited for characters that the main focus are said reactions. We can kinda assume that Nilou and Dehya will be Bloom and Burning/Burgeon focused characters, and Nahida will be their best support (hope she's a healer and buffer, Traveller and Collei support capabilities are just Dendro application).
@alexyguerreroceja7353
@alexyguerreroceja7353 Жыл бұрын
Is there gonna be an update from the klee's guide when a new cathalyst comes up? I'd like to see her viability with yelan and other new characters as a nuke or even support
@sakutaro3musik486
@sakutaro3musik486 Жыл бұрын
there is no value in klee, she is an ok unit
@Hayds126
@Hayds126 Жыл бұрын
I think double hydro can work with klee but hu tao does more damage and not sure if it beats mono pyro. I don't think much else has changed for her though.
@vani5632
@vani5632 Жыл бұрын
I think klee is more comfortable in a mono pyro team just bring kazuha or someone yk to swirl and group enemies sucrose works too but bennett as your buffer and healer and you still get a flexible spot you can put xiangling as an example I mean it's an advice cuz klee is hard to vape so mono pyro is comfortable and does a crazy amount of dmg but definitely not as big in number wise
@MrDekasOne
@MrDekasOne Жыл бұрын
Klee is best in mono pyro she applies to much pyro to vape or melt her charged attacks consistently
@_.soymilk
@_.soymilk Жыл бұрын
@@vani5632 Agreed, I can’t see how any kind of reaction team could be as good for klee as mono pyro. It’s quite good tbh if you love klee and wanna play her it’s def competitive and clears abyss fast
@red-nt2cx
@red-nt2cx Жыл бұрын
great vid. still would've loved to see how spread/aggravate would compare to these side by side. thank you.
@applyinggaming9529
@applyinggaming9529 Жыл бұрын
would love to see it for future characters that synergizes with specific reactions
@aatroxotp.
@aatroxotp. Жыл бұрын
I love this type of videos!
@wisteriamuffler8850
@wisteriamuffler8850 Жыл бұрын
yeah do build the characters with 4 star weapons, it would be interesting. Also, love the fact that Thoma is somewhat competent now, functionality wise.
@shin8731
@shin8731 Жыл бұрын
i was asking my self this question and u uploaded the same second :0
@Himmelswind
@Himmelswind Жыл бұрын
I really love playing Hyperbloom, it feels so flashy and quick. But I thought aggravate was more fitting for my Keqing due to Electro dmg. Therefore I would love any further comparisons you are doing!
@HusennHudson
@HusennHudson Жыл бұрын
I really like Hyper Kuki (Kuki Huperbloom) but still farming to get her a better piece
@sadkdhm2060
@sadkdhm2060 Жыл бұрын
For hyberbloom I used triple EM Raiden (I don't have kuki yet) with Kazuha, dendro traveler and Kokomi, I managed to 9 star abyss 12 with pure f2p setups it was a really fun team to use. In the video I saw you used hydro infused dendro traveler burst, it's good but I was using the electro infusion for more burst dmg and faster dendro application but at the same time I had issues with enemies going off the burst AOE but if you manage to keep them in it the time would be faster than the hydro infusion
@guilherme.comelli
@guilherme.comelli Жыл бұрын
infusing electro on travelers burst doesn't increase dendro application.
@jamesheo106
@jamesheo106 Жыл бұрын
Best genshin content creator period
@ziggymugstube
@ziggymugstube Жыл бұрын
I was really hoping they would add a Phys debuff along with burning making it an alternative to superconduct. Who knows, maybe that'll be a feature of a future character or artifact set or something. (My poor Xinyan still waiting for her time to shine).
@FranciscoJG
@FranciscoJG Жыл бұрын
That's actually a nice idea.
@Devilboy_1029
@Devilboy_1029 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a set like vv for Anemo, Geo and Dendro
@RuneKatashima
@RuneKatashima Жыл бұрын
Wow, an actually good idea in the YT comment section?
@kirin1230
@kirin1230 Жыл бұрын
That's an excellent idea actually. I don't care for physical at all but it would have been nice for balancing... And Xinyan.
@dub2459
@dub2459 Жыл бұрын
This is to be expected, Dendro is basically just here to make electro viable, pyro doesn’t need a buff vap and melt already hit hard.
@autobee23
@autobee23 Жыл бұрын
I personally use Burgeon the most since I’m a Thoma main, and it’s fun to watch things go boom. 😂
@morrowthewizard3945
@morrowthewizard3945 Жыл бұрын
this is interesting thanks for compiling.
@shiningsun4023
@shiningsun4023 Жыл бұрын
Great video !
@reconserra9997
@reconserra9997 Жыл бұрын
Right now, I don't care who's the strongest. I'm just happy that the MC has finally gotten his redemption arc.
@joeyisabsb1
@joeyisabsb1 Жыл бұрын
Kuki as well
@infine-8222
@infine-8222 Жыл бұрын
You should try using electrocharge masking for burgeon. Team is DMC-XQ-Fischl-Thoma. EC works conceptually similar to fridging for the purpose of seed production (exact mechanics are different, but the goal is the same - more seeds per dendro application). I think it also prevents burning for the most part. Though you may get a few stray hyperblooms and overloads in the process.
@shikasi
@shikasi Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much "worth" to dendro reactions Nahida is going to add, since I'm still assuming Collei is Amber tier for Dendro and Traveler is Traveler tier for dendro, but because they're the only off-field dendro applicators in the game, we just don't know any better.
@ahamadsemiyan7760
@ahamadsemiyan7760 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t traveler’s dendro application enough? Are they not good enough?
@kingdoom5022
@kingdoom5022 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with that , yeah mihoyo gonna release better dendro characters than MC but not by much , traveller burst with hydro have literally the biggest AoE in the entire game , he have 75% uptime dendro application and he shares EM and at C6 he gives 12% damage bonus
@Gio_in_6D
@Gio_in_6D Жыл бұрын
I mean, if that's our "low tier" every dendro character I going to be incredible
@Chopsparillo
@Chopsparillo Жыл бұрын
Not really. Dendro reactions work well with Traveler’s level of application. The only thing that could be better is a character with a longer off field aoe Dendro application duration.
@x_Psyduck_x
@x_Psyduck_x Жыл бұрын
while traveler could be powercrept in future they still will be very much viable because of strong and consistend dendro application from burst, so dendro-traveler will remain better than any other element traveler we have so far.
@raphasage
@raphasage Жыл бұрын
Not sure ifanyone pointed that to you but burning should function for a overload composition. I use: c6 benny, dentro traveler,albedo and kuki/shogun. Even liza should perform nicely for the electro slot. Love those testing/comparing videos you make! Keep going!
@GothiQhaQer
@GothiQhaQer Жыл бұрын
I love a good fridge team and this one is a very solid one 🙌🏾
@juanvaldivia8001
@juanvaldivia8001 Жыл бұрын
Gotta take a moment to appreciate my man's dodge skills, they're on point good stuff
@kierstenhello9
@kierstenhello9 Жыл бұрын
I just like watching your videos in general, so i certainly wont say no to another one :P
@MichaelK34752
@MichaelK34752 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE hyperbloom and learning that its effect is competitive with other dendro reactions is cherry on top. i just love it for ease of use, too many eremites have simply walked away from my dendro cores and that really killed bloom for me. and without UBER strong hydro application (only xingqu on my acc) mass producing them to force explosion wasn't really an option
@MisoSanSoup
@MisoSanSoup Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! It would be amazing if you could do a video about burgeon Amber! This build makes her viable at c0 which is amazing!
@HaeRosae
@HaeRosae Жыл бұрын
I always love these videos but god dang all of the characters at full volume going at once is so overwhelming.
@lofreeq
@lofreeq Жыл бұрын
On this channel I drop the like already before watching the video
@MikuVocaloidHD
@MikuVocaloidHD Жыл бұрын
I think burning will be usable when they give us a character with specific passive to make it work, like Nilou with bloom. Maybe Dehya.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 Жыл бұрын
I hope they don't ruin Dehya by making her tied to burning. It would that be a waste of her awesome character design. And it would also suck for burn to only be viable if you use one specific character.
@toolazytoholdagrudge1148
@toolazytoholdagrudge1148 Жыл бұрын
@@Axterix13 as if we don't have enough pyro dps for vape and melt reaction. This patch is all about dendro and she might be the best contender for buffing burning reactions like what they did to Nilou.
@banjokazuya2913
@banjokazuya2913 Жыл бұрын
Man I'll deffo pull for Kuki next time she is featured on a banner
@weirdenoughIguess
@weirdenoughIguess Жыл бұрын
I just got her from standard
@pedrosilva-di4lg
@pedrosilva-di4lg Жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO! Pls do a 4* weapons with aggravate and spread
@wildfire_
@wildfire_ Жыл бұрын
fun fact, if your running xingqiu as the sole hydro in hyperbloom, you can use kuuki's burst to apply electro to dendro traveller's burst before it can infuse hydro
@angelsadventure4996
@angelsadventure4996 Жыл бұрын
Pyro main : we are going to burn everything. Hydro main : we'll forever be relevant. Electro main : finally, we'll shine!
@Pelfmiester
@Pelfmiester Жыл бұрын
I've been trying out a Yanfei Burgeon team. Haven't tried it in the Abyss yet but it feels pretty good in the over world. Yanfei, Dendro MC, Collei, Kokomi.
@christyobrien7680
@christyobrien7680 Жыл бұрын
might build yanfei instead of Thoma cause I have skyward atlas how do u recommend to build her as a sub dps cause ill use mona instead of kokomi
@arifamirul9126
@arifamirul9126 Жыл бұрын
I like using Hyperbloom, exactly i loves seeing skill like homing missile, ningguang, dori E also Tighnari Q and charge attack
@TengouX
@TengouX Жыл бұрын
I had a lot of trouble making up team comps for spiral abyss because I was just lacking in good, well built characters, but now Dendro exists my waifu Kuki has powered up tremendously for very little investment. Just full EM artifacts with an iron sting and she's good to go. Now I got a new Quicken/Hyperbloom team with Tighnari, Kuki and Mona (with Dendro traveler for Dendro resonance) that is more than sufficient to keep me alive thanks to Kuki's heals, and the fact that Kuki's healing also scales off EM means I can sacrifice HP to pump my EM without losing much of my healing. So essentially Kuki's new role in Dendro comps means I can free up my standard supports for other teams, and this was my first 36 star abyss
@vino-k5650
@vino-k5650 Жыл бұрын
Imo I would love to see her burgeon and hyperbloom perform with the hydro character build as dps. Cuz hydro characters are specialized in their vaporize too. With proper build hydro, burgeon will also be as good as hyperbloom
@AryanDraws
@AryanDraws Жыл бұрын
First! Love your videos man
@nara-yana
@nara-yana Жыл бұрын
Hoping for some crazy Dendro aplicator exclusive for Burning + Melt stuff in the future!
@antonmaul2702
@antonmaul2702 Жыл бұрын
Also I would love to see xinyan as a surgeon trigger of possible, I know thoma is more consistent but I am just curious about her. Might need something like childe and xingqiu to keep up with her ticks from her ahield
@neuplop
@neuplop Жыл бұрын
Would love to see it with quicken in there too! But with 4* dmg dealers with 4* weapons, like the fischl beidou xingqiu sucrose, vs fischl beidou traveler sucrose vs kuki traveler xingqiu sucrose
@jp754
@jp754 Жыл бұрын
kinda unfair with the first showcase since diona shield did so much self damage to the vishap
@skylarsobczak8040
@skylarsobczak8040 Ай бұрын
I'd definitely like to see this repeated with some other underlying reactions for hyperbloom and burgeon. Things like hyperfridge and salad, and quick burgeon and freeze burgeon.
@kaptinkitten3683
@kaptinkitten3683 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling burning will continue to be bad(mostly inconsistent) until we get a character with constant on demand dendro application. Maybe a catalyst or dendro infusion.
@RejectedInch
@RejectedInch Жыл бұрын
So far Raiden -bloom is my favorite, with a flex slot that is either Zhongli or Kazuha depending on what i am fighting ( remember the mantra " Kazuha will be irrelevant with dendro" ? Happy news: it was utter bs)
@aciesara5444
@aciesara5444 Жыл бұрын
I don't remember. In fact, this is the first time I read that mantra.
@x_Psyduck_x
@x_Psyduck_x Жыл бұрын
@@aciesara5444 some people said that dendro would be some kind of nerf for anemo characters because it doesn't swirl which even then was very questionable because well...everything else swirls.
@deltaspecies1697
@deltaspecies1697 Жыл бұрын
Dendro really made sucrose even more broken lol. She was arguably of the top 5 units in the game and she got even better. Kazuha i think didnt receive that much of a boost. He didnt get any weaker either. Venti is venti. When he works hes the best unit in the game. Otherwise hes just a good unit
@Aventurine.f2p
@Aventurine.f2p Жыл бұрын
Plus there new weapon good for kazhua
@Blue-zh8px
@Blue-zh8px Жыл бұрын
Kazuha adds nothing to hyperbloom teams tho unless he's C2, which would still be inferior to Sucrose.
@hex8113
@hex8113 Жыл бұрын
If there was a pyro character with green hair, the thumbnail would've been perfect.
@mega17
@mega17 Жыл бұрын
Something worth considering is Kuki's team is benefitting immensely from Quicken & Aggravate. It's pretty much unavoidable. I also think it would be worth testing what these teams are like of you didn't avoid having good atk/crit stats too. Fridge doesn't have to be bloom focused, it could be more of a cryo-dendro hybrid-dps team.
@AzureDrag0n1
@AzureDrag0n1 Жыл бұрын
I use Kuki hyper bloom and aggravate and spread are negligible. What is actually significant is electro charged. My hyper bloom can do 28k x 2 every pulse on average. My electro charge can do some ~10k x however many enemies there are / sec. 2 enemies you will dish out 40k damage but 3 enemies will dish out 60k from one electro charge reaction. However hyper bloom can target different characters so if 1 of the blooms targets a different enemy it will also proc so it can be 84k damage from one proc of hyper bloom. If all 3 target the same enemy then it will only be 56k. I think that is not bad for Kuki. I do not have Dendro set quite built yet so I just use the Noblesse set to pump up everyone on my team instead. Maybe if my Kuki had very cracked stats then aggravate might do something more significant. Mostly she just has 4pc Gilded Dreams that add up to about 1000 EM.
@xXasdfMAN12Xx
@xXasdfMAN12Xx Жыл бұрын
I would really love to see how burning stacks up now that Nahida is in the game, that consistent dendro application would be a lot better in this scenario
@thomaspq3447
@thomaspq3447 Жыл бұрын
Vape vs aggravate when
@alex9502
@alex9502 Жыл бұрын
Lmao no, is like comparing melt vs overloaded
@shura4365
@shura4365 Жыл бұрын
@@alex9502 Aggravate is much better than overload.
@scucumber9730
@scucumber9730 Жыл бұрын
it's so obvious that vape wins 😔
@thomaspq3447
@thomaspq3447 Жыл бұрын
@@scucumber9730 yes but i want to see how close aggravate is to vape
@yanxii1527
@yanxii1527 Жыл бұрын
They're totally different things. Vape is a simple 2x multiplier. Aggrevate however, will increase the dmg, but electo is still subject to its "death by a thousand cuts". Electro, chars (except Raiden) cannot output that much dmg in 1 instance, however overtime, they defo can do loads. Vape exact opposite, Big dmg once, then a while b4 they do it again
@foureyeddragon00
@foureyeddragon00 Жыл бұрын
Oof, glad I watched this before I invested much more into my idea of a burning team. Guess I will stick with bloom/hyperbloom for now even though I am starting to get a bit bored with the characters.
@chuii_
@chuii_ Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about burning reaction effects, now I know why I was dying really fast with my Bennet in Co-op
@Red-zh3pk
@Red-zh3pk Жыл бұрын
Burgeon is so fun if throwing a electro unit. running Raiden, MC, kokomi, and Thoma. So fun!
@DmtryAtroz
@DmtryAtroz Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a limited to 4* average full team Because at least for me, i went with a Tasserbloom team to clear this current abyss and went amazingly ngl Sucrose - Yelan - DMC - Shinobu
@arashi302
@arashi302 Жыл бұрын
Actually that's hyperbloom xD though yeah it does have electro charge in it, nvm
@arashi302
@arashi302 Жыл бұрын
But yeah agreed, it clears amazingly :D
@try_hard2415
@try_hard2415 Жыл бұрын
Same but i use fichl sucrose dmc and mona since i dont have any other hydro char The dmg is pretty good especially for my ar
@celaninari8806
@celaninari8806 Жыл бұрын
I've love to see some properly built teams go for it.
@moamengaber6355
@moamengaber6355 Жыл бұрын
My day is complete now
@irumasuzuki725
@irumasuzuki725 Жыл бұрын
I was fully expecting a raid shadow legends ad
@darkgix6326
@darkgix6326 Жыл бұрын
I love it when using my aggravate Team and it starts raining. Boom everything gone even faster bcause of add hyperblooms
@uddiptojana7884
@uddiptojana7884 Жыл бұрын
I think they could have made burning like aggravate or spread... That would have helped pyro units with small multipliers who cannot vape or melt reliably, like klee for instance
@EternalDream
@EternalDream Жыл бұрын
I'd like to share some more thoughts on Burn: Collei by herself CAN fuel Burn consistently (especially with Sacrificial, but with c2 she doesn't even necessarily need that if you can stick near enemies) by spacing her Q and E apart, and is the best option multi-target due to her Q's AoE. Tighnari is better for single target (though that's a bit cheating with his personal damage), but struggles keeping dendro on more than one enemy. In addition, her Q's ICD is even "forced" by Mihoyo to let Burn drop and then retrigger immediately (losing at most 1 tick in the process), which allows stuff like Gilded Dreams to re-activate (which it does not when refreshing Burn - that's not a reaction!), and resets the Burn Gauge to 2U (preventing swirls from deleting it when they happen too fast, which is especially important with Venti's high swirl count in Q) On top of this, double dendro in Burn is a mistake. DMC does very little to help short of maybe triggering Sapwood, who's leaf is terrible to pick up, and his Q is a liability more often than it helps. Dendro Resonance also only lets Burn get 80 EM, not the full 100, and at the amount of EM you typically have, that's a very small effective bonus to the team. Instead, full EM Xiangling (if we keep it to 4* units) or instructor Zhongli (if we allow 5*) are much more beneficial, with the former having pyro shred and EM ascension stat, and the latter having universal shred and an ever helpful shield. Pyro shred is vital, as VV sucrose already shows. It's still the worst Dendro reaction, don't get me wrong, but there's some nuance to it, and a burn-dedicated pyro character can absolutely solve quite a few of its shortcomings. Better than Shatter still :^)
@1millionRamen
@1millionRamen Жыл бұрын
i never have a 5 star character and i was lucky that i got kuki 2 times in standard banner. and when sumero was released. i was happy i can deal a powerful damage every hyperbloom.
@LadyHermes
@LadyHermes Жыл бұрын
That's a good video.
@fusionfallmaster
@fusionfallmaster Жыл бұрын
I personally like using burgeon with Kazuha's swirl as the trigger. Kazuha's high EM and VV shred causes burgeon to deal so much more damage. My go-to combo is MC burst, Xingqiu burst, Bennet burst, Kazuha burst then auto attacks. Even though anemo has no direct interaction with dendro, using swirl to trigger burgeon allows both elements to capitalize on one source of EM.
@christyobrien7680
@christyobrien7680 Жыл бұрын
might use this and have ganyu melt on the other side
@Chaos_Phoenix
@Chaos_Phoenix Жыл бұрын
I wanna see a vape team with a dendro character. Im not too sure but burnings pyro application could help characters like poptart and ayato
@antsensei1481
@antsensei1481 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried using 4pc lavawalker to increase the damage of burning alongside it being a full EM build? Im sure it would do better than what was resulted. Another thing, I think Albedo's burst wouldve helped also
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 Жыл бұрын
I don't think there's room for Albedo in the team. You need 2 dendros to keep the fire going and a pyro. That leaves room for one character, and that pretty much means an anemo for VV, because -40% pyro resistance (and grouping, swirl, and EM/DMG buffs).
@antsensei1481
@antsensei1481 Жыл бұрын
@@Axterix13 I think it would be nice to have a future dendro character that does apply a lot of dendro
@karimhegazy3866
@karimhegazy3866 Жыл бұрын
Wait does DMG% increase reaction damage? I thought only level, EM, specific artifact set effects, and element resistance affects it
@Aki-gb8gm
@Aki-gb8gm Жыл бұрын
I dont have Kuki or Raiden so I havent been able to try out hyperbloom (fischl doesnt work super well plus shes better in aggravate lol) but ive been loving burgeon thoma!! Crying over the fact that i can finally use him, and with Ayato/Kokomi especially! (the pretty hydros lol)
@Fco2k7
@Fco2k7 Жыл бұрын
You can try with EM Lisa at level 90 if you dont have Kuke or Baal. You'll need an anemo character to pull the seeds together and then detonate them with Lisa's ult.
@Aki-gb8gm
@Aki-gb8gm Жыл бұрын
@@Fco2k7 hmm i built my lisa for aggravate but ill try her in hyperbloom as well thanks!
@narukami4959
@narukami4959 Жыл бұрын
just use sucrose hyperbloom (sucrose fischl xingqiu dmc)
@Erksah68
@Erksah68 Жыл бұрын
I imagine an ATK / EM scaling Dendro Character coming out.
@Chkprofilename
@Chkprofilename Жыл бұрын
*kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3TJipxta5hnqLc* Finally it's here after so long
@alex9502
@alex9502 Жыл бұрын
Imagine what?
@ryry..
@ryry.. Жыл бұрын
yaoyao
@Erksah68
@Erksah68 Жыл бұрын
@@alex9502 someone that scales well with both atk and em. i bothced the joke,sry.
@tehCostHD
@tehCostHD Жыл бұрын
@@Erksah68 uhhhh tignari? What am I missing
@arandomguy517
@arandomguy517 Жыл бұрын
I would say something creative, but I can’t think of anything
@darksider6376
@darksider6376 Жыл бұрын
it would be cool if the burning dmg was based on enemy's max hp..like every tick do 1% of enemy's max health.
@coohippo
@coohippo Жыл бұрын
What the hell?! The sponsored game actually looks dope as hell. Is there a catch? lol
@lenwok3222
@lenwok3222 Жыл бұрын
While i'm really glad i grabbed kuki for my 2nd f2p account as well, its a shame she made me put my c6 thoma to the wayside on that account. Happened before this video too. The healing is so much better for overworld exploring too, and less reliance on burst in the rotation.
@eruhinmakhtar9162
@eruhinmakhtar9162 Жыл бұрын
If we ever get a hard hitting, slow hydo applicator, then burning will shine because it will allow forward vapes.
@aksingia8281
@aksingia8281 Жыл бұрын
I didn't watch yet, but I love the idea
@EternallApprentace
@EternallApprentace Жыл бұрын
Just fyi but cat's tail closing time only works when HP is below 50% it says
@freendysinaga9762
@freendysinaga9762 9 ай бұрын
before fontaine, could you update this video. as a "state of dendro reaction" after the sumeru update
@spacialsonic7779
@spacialsonic7779 Жыл бұрын
I feel Burning is actually not good also. Maybe in futur this will be better. i send my suggestion / Idea Showcase: Who the best Main Dps Electro Bloom? (Kequin vs Raiden vs Cyno (3.1))
@jasonstor4629
@jasonstor4629 Жыл бұрын
fridge with kaz instaed of collei is way better ( obviously) traveller is more than enough for dendro application
@jasonstor4629
@jasonstor4629 Жыл бұрын
As you can group all the bombs and enemies together in one spot, plus obvs damage bonus for hidro
@Romashka_Sov
@Romashka_Sov Жыл бұрын
Main rule was "only 4★ characters with one exception", so only Sucrose can go
@joshuajackson6023
@joshuajackson6023 Жыл бұрын
I am doing a Nuzlocke right now and coming from a lower AR Player, Burning and Bloom is extremely easy to to deal decent DMG my Burning DMG on my teams is 1,200 per tick avg. And my Bloom DMG is close to 8k avg. When you are AR 35 these are large numbers. Aggravate and Spread are still much better even at low level sadly. My Fischl is dealing close to 7k with Oz when she procs Aggravate, she only deals around 3.2k without Aggravate.
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