Does Talent Matter When Learning Jazz Guitar? The Flaws Of Music Education

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[@vvvvaaaacccc]

Denis, your comments on development have inspired me. I have been struggling for a while to get my musical act together, but I have a plan now: I'm going to work at becoming a reliable swing jazz rhythm guitarist.

[@KyOte13]

Same… all I wanna accomplish is playing pompe in a swing band

[@bradking1536]

🎉 thank you for sharing 🎉 hope you are well God loves you deeply shalom 🤗🐼♥️✝️💐 Philippians 4:8

[@Randydaudt]

Very nice!

[@beefsteax]

People get really defensive about talent when it comes to creativity or intelligence, and I can understand why because it feels very limiting. I always find relating it to physical endeavors makes the most sense. When I watch the NBA there are players who are 7 feet tall and who jump 40 inches high, and there are also players who will never be either of those things who are still playing because they worked hard or honed specific desirable skills. Now imagine that there are people out there with the brain equivalent of being 7 feet tall with a 40 inch vertical leap. I’ll never be that but I can still find a way to be valuable and participate. And that’s why I play bass haha!

[@fouroutoffour]

Denis, I keep tuning in because your videos are very inspiring and act as an affirmation that I’m on the right track for my study plan. Thank you for all you do I think I have now supported you in all of the formats and platforms that you have published on. Your materials are worth 10 times the cost. Keep up the great work!

[@SoulconversationDuo]

I love this talk. Thanks Denis.

[@DaveZula]

Denis, your videos always give me insights I didn't know I needed.

[@brentwheeler2087]

Thanks Denis - I always enjoy your "philosophical" pieces - especially since you have lived a lot of it. Instructive. How do you figure what you are good and bad at? What are the benchmarks - or at least rough guides? Your thoughts tell us that this is certainly the route to efficient learning.

[@MarshallPust]

Denis, great video! I enjoy your philosophical musings as much as your playing, and I definitely reasessing my own thoughts on the talent question.

[@paulgibby6932]

Lots of good stuff. Thanks Denis. 18:30 nice self-insight. It's hard to be self-critical and listening to recordings has helped me focus on flaws.

[@jeremyhickersonsalem]

YOu are wise and have a balanced life, and you've made this choice on purpose, I think that's great! You take someone like Pat Metheny who has relentlessly practiced for years, who has paid the price to get to that unbelievable level, and while we all benefit from that, maybe that wasn't even the best choice for him, although he seems happy. I wouldn't necessarily wish that sort of life on anybody.

[@Uuur10]

Merci pour cette nouvelle vidéo exceptionnelle. Je pense que vous avez 100 % raison sur la question inné/acquis ! Vous ne vous contentez pas de discourir sur le sujet comme beaucoup mais avez mené votre propre expérience jusqu'au bout, avec des résultats validés par Biréli Lagrène et Sylvain Luc... il n'y a pas de meilleure validation possible. Votre analogie des portes est vraiment excellente. Donc le problème, pour les 99,9 % qui ne sont pas comme Lagrène et Luc, c'est de trouver ce qui les aidera à trouver la bonne porte. Votre bouquin que j'ai parcouru en entier va dans ce sens. Il parle d'un des vrais fondamentaux. Pour moi la technique de main droite était vraiment un problème et je l'ai réglé avec les vidéos de Troy Grady . Paradoxe très intéressant : il montre par A+B (y compris des études scientifiques) que physiologiquement absolument TOUT LE MONDE est capable de tempos d'au moins 200 bpm. Mais il dit aussi qu'il faut un talent phénoménal pour faire cette découverte par soi-même. Après il faut encore l'appliquer à l'instrument et j'avais plus ou moins laissé tomber, mais ces derniers temps j'ai réessayé et commence à y arriver... c'est très particulier comme sentiment, c'est comme avoir mis un pied de l'autre côté du miroir. La vidéo centrale sur le sujet s'appelle je crois "Starting with speed", elle est peut-être encore sur KZbin. Donc un pédagogue talentueux ne peut pas vous montrer EXACTEMENT la bonne porte MAIS au lieu de 30 portes devant vous, il n'y en aura peut-être plus que 3 ou 4. Trouver la bonne impose un effort que personne ne peut faire à votre place (=adapter l'information à ses propres fonctionnement, physiologie, façon d'apprendre; expérimenter, échouer, se relever, réessayer, comprendre ses erreurs, réessayer etc.). Merci encore pour vos vidéos super intéressantes.

[@displaychicken]

“We are what we repeatedly do… therefore excellence is not an act, but a habit.”

[@fouroutoffour]

A plug for Denis' new book. It's awesome!!!!

[@bencassidybc]

This is amazing, i love those bends!!!

[@ericb5852]

Thank you Denis for your wisdom✌️

[@paulschneider7271]

Talent is also to find intuitively the best fitting way to akquire a certain skill and avoiding at the same time bad habits. In my experience most guitar players who want to learn Gypsy jazz or music in general are pretty advanced in certain isolated skills but are lacking at the very fundamentals. Playing killer licks in the bedroom and totally struggle to play a steady good sounding rhythm. If you are aware of the basics and if you develop a steady ground everything else one top of that will be so much better and refined. Two fundamentals of Gypsy jazz are: Timing and chord knowledge.

[@viktorviktor9995]

Very inspiring. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@f2fProfeSilva]

Good job :)

[@minaees]

Great video! 👏 It's a bit weird that people could know about Django but deny the importance of talent.

[@vladvashchenko]

Hey Denis, i think you are nice humble person. And that your strength, when did you start to work on this aspect? Or just talented from the beginning? 😅

[@florentdevos]

Beautiful man

[@shanedefeo6881]

I'm not so sure wether talent exists or not .Every time they called me talented I knew that I had to work my ass of to get that initial predisposition bare a fruit of any kind,as did all the others I know about.

[@MetaphysicalMusician]

As guy that has played funk/dance music...my time got good really fast...try playing dance or funk....parlirment funkadelic

[@marketherton2296]

Personally I think people are born to be naturally good / talented at certain things and it is an exploration of discovery. I am a natural player and always have been, but I have my own door which I consider my originality door. I experiment with other genres like Gypsy Jazz, but I am not natural with their technique, so I take bits and add them to my repertoire. It is such a vast landscape, I don’t think it can been answered in any one way. Will check your book out as you do have a talent for helping people to understand complex things…

[@asuryan]

Yeah, I think my strength is creativity (song writing), but I really make an effort to learn improvisation, which is then added to my own personal creations. Each one has to find what they're good at and mix that with the other skills you're not great at.

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

👍🏻🤓 awesome 🎸

[@EyesFoward]

Think you will that a lot of what you call talent is just down to hard work. As a child you don't notice because you are busy soaking up exciting info and skill. By the time they reach adulthood they would have forgotten the ease of it and will say they "I dont know I just do it" When I was in school there was a kid that could calculate complex maths as fast as the teacher gave us the maths problem. He really spoiled It for the other children. Well, what this smug little kid is not saying is that he's got excellent mathematicians as parents. Natural talent? Or well coached? Some kids do have excellent musical skills. Born right the womb with it, but they are probably somewhere on the spectrum. Some are even fed music while in the womb. Another type of coaching.

[@iceWaterProductions1]

I was under the impression there wasn’t much string bending in Jazz.

[@End-TimesAzrael]

Gypsy Jazz and Traditional Blues bend strings. The rest of jazz neglects articulation.

[@MetaphysicalMusician]

My soloing needs work...

[@davidwilliamson9462]

Am I that guy that should spend more time with his kids? I wonder.

[@mattgentile9830]

What song are you playing in the intro?

[@DenisChangMusic]

Hello, it’s a standard called “I can’t give you anything but love”. I’m using the chord changes that were popular in the 1930s. Modern players tend to use something slightly different

[@vvvvaaaacccc]

with regards to talent, my specific challenge is in terms of technique. I feel like I really lack 'talent' in the technique department. if you could share anything specific to this, I would be very interested to hear it.

[@BucoBucolini]

Can you tap your fingers rapidly on the table? If you can, you can improve your technique as well.

[@vvvvaaaacccc]

@@BucoBucolini yes, I agree. nonetheless, I feel stuck and unsure how to progress.

[@BucoBucolini]

​​@@vvvvaaaaccccif I had to say it in one sentence... it's time you put in, focus and scrutinizing what doesn't work on a micro detail. PS I checked out your last video, you're good guitar player.

[@vvvvaaaacccc]

​@@BucoBucolinithat's so thoughtful. thanks for your time, your compliment, and your advice :) I haven't worked at a 'micro' level of detail yet. in the interest of trying something new, that sounds like it's worth a try. I'll do it.

[@zipwheelin2420]

Chippy!

[@BucoBucolini]

Talent is way overused word.