Is the Rose Bowl actually bad?

[@MBarberfan4life]

It's both. There is a lot of history for the Rose Bowl, but it needs renovations. And you can do renovations without totally undermining tradition.

[@MrMartinae06]

Completely agree with you. Unfortunately LA isn't a football city, but if you want to keep the historic aspects, you can easily make this a destination stadium, and ideally some place you could bring the superbowl back to? (I realize that's a huge stretch, but it would be cool to see given the history of the stadium)

[@bobbowie9350]

It had renovations. 2 renovations actually in the time I've lived in pasadena.

[@76carmel]

And also the Rose Bowl is listed as a National Historic Landmark since 1987. It’s a 100 year old stadium. If there is renovation, it’s a tweak here and there.

[@jr_subz3ro]

0:19 Did DG just say that USC's home games are 90% of the events at the Rose Bowl??? LOL I think he meant to say UCLA.

[@usarugbyleagueunionfan]

Yep

[@Z64sports]

He corrected it later and said UCLA

[@alexpais]

@@Z64sports And then he said USC again after that. lol.

[@theoriginaldashriprock]

Correction: USC plays home games at the Los Angeles coliseum, not the rose bowl. UCLA however does play its home games at the Rose Bowl

[@jeffdew7110]

He’s always confused on basic facts that a middle school fan would know

[@sjduges67]

@@jeffdew7110you gotta wonder how he gets that mixed up because he's usually reciting things straight from Wikipedia.

[@TVMcaduceus]

I saw the 2018 CFP semifinal at the Rose Bowl and thought it was a fantastic environment with lots of tradition. I think it should keep its playoff game on New Year's Day but not add any others. New Years Day adds to the magic that you won't get in mid January.

[@timothymoroney9100]

UCLA doesn’t own the Rose Bowl…Pasadena owns it. Being a tenant, they can’t make many demands, when their options are to share the Coliseum with USC or beg Stan Kronke to reconsider a lease for Sofi

[@ec1628]

The lease with the Rose Bowl solid until around 2045. The Bruins played in the Coliseum until ‘82. The Raiders were the reason they left.

[@wesleyreynolds7815]

I was just there for the Rose Bowl game. Compared to Bryant Denny with 100k fans designed to handle large crowds, the Rose Bowl just didn’t seem to have the facilities to keep up with the high capacity game. Long lines for men’s restrooms, food venues, transportation back to Pasadena after the game, etc. I missed the first 6 minutes of the 3rd quarter due to bathroom lines…and no TV/monitors in the concourse didn’t help. Renovations should focus on the facilities like food, crowd flow, and bathrooms, etc to help it handle the large crowds…which can be done without touching the overall aesthetic.

[@therealMLJones]

I've never been to the Rose Bowl, but because of the height of the stadium it makes for a fantastic tv experience just the angle of video is fantastic. And the San Gabriel mountains in the background makes for great theatre.

[@snotnosewilly99]

I knew a guy that went to the Rose Bowl years ago....he sat in the upper seats...he said that he was so far away from the action that he couldn't see anything...he hated it.

[@therealMLJones]

@@snotnosewilly99 I'm talking televised games in the Rose Bowl are fantastic, never did I say anything about going to the game.

[@RB-.-]

kirk herbstreit has an obsession with the rose bowl so im not surprised to hear him say every natty should be there. every year we have to hear him tell the same story about growing up in the midwest and california seeming like a mystical fairy tale world on TV

[@SFbayArea94121]

He’s been smokin too much Herb 🪴 in the streits 🛣️

[@bryantsteury8910]

Kirk probably tugs one out at the 50 every time he goes there

[@Jleed989]

Well, he’s right

[@whatlol_e]

its the perfect representation of what a "bowl" should be

[@shaunnichols1743]

The Rose Bowl is a national and state historic landmark. I'm not an architect or engineer but it seems like that would make a major overhaul more difficult.

[@PerryCoxPF93]

The LA Coliseum was also a recognized landmark but SC's administration is forward thinking on football stuff. UCLA's AD is sadly behind and not nearly as dynamic. They are comfortable with the RB looking the way it is till the 2040s when their lease is up.

[@GregoryFariss]

⁠@@PerryCoxPF93USC has operational control of the Coliseum. UCLA is a tenant.

[@bobbowie9350]

​@@PerryCoxPF93mt usc ruined the coliseum. Looks awful.

[@DaveShow]

I wish all the College Football Playoff games could be played on campuses throughout December and then the national championship takes place on January 1st at 5PM EST at the Rose Bowl.

[@GrizrazRex]

:025 U$C does not play their home games in Pasadena. It must be that Ohio State education talking. SCOREBOARD!! GO BLUE!!! The Rose Bowl needs a near-complete rebuild. The place could not be built today; not enough tunnels to be up to code. UCLA would be wise to move to SoFi; closer to campus. The Rose Bowl might have to be held in the Mausoleum for a year or two, if the Rose Bowl is to do a big renovation.

[@icyike]

As someone who was there for this recent Alabama Michigan game, and has been to a few other Rose Bowls in the past… it’s the best stadium and environment to watch football I have ever been to.

[@blacksunshine1089]

I think the Rose Bowl is a breath of fresh air compared to all of the overbuilt “modern” stadium we see today. It’s classy, understated, clean.

[@kleins-v7v]

It would never happen because corporate greed and wanting to coddle the fans, but a national championship at Lambeau, Metlife, Gillette or Soldier Field would be legendary. Imagine Georgia and Oregon duking it out in 30 degree flurries 🤣

[@BrentFanan]

Lambeau would be amazing. Domes are so sterile and lifeless. The Broncos-Seahawks SB at Metlife was awesome leading up to it because there was a chance for a big time snow day

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

Those stadiums are in cold winter climates, so they couldn't host the college football national championship. It is too risky to host a championship in a stadium where the weather could be well below freezing or there is a heavy snowstorm. Maybe some of those stadiums could host a beginning-of-season game featuring two top teams.

[@davidyoung1164]

In January, give me a bench in Southern Cal and I'm happy. And it's football for goodness sake; not the opera! And when you can't see because the sightlines are horrible, stand up. And when you leave, leave your trash behind--they have people for that. Long live dive bars, road-houses, and the Rose Bowl!

[@andrewspaid9127]

You should do a video about what would happen if the Arizona coyotes make the Stanley cup finals and how much money yhe nhl would lose with them playing in a 5k capacity arena or if they’d move them to a different stadium for the finals

[@davidlafleche1142]

That's about as likely as Trump winning the Democrat nomination.

[@bryantsteury8910]

oh god that'd be an NHL nightmare

[@jsnike91]

Was just at the rose bowl for Michigan/Bama. Had not been there for a few years and the bleacher seats are so uncomfortable. Also they really need a big Jumbotron screen cause the one “big” screen they have is at one endzone and you can really see much when you’re at the opposite side endzone, which I was. Just feels like they try and get by on history and history only.

[@gabemorrison9702]

Here's my question, have you been to Lambeau Field, the Rose Bowl, the Cotton Bowl, Wrigley Field, Fenway Park, NRG Stadium? When you talk I get the feeling your opinions are based off other people's experiences/opinions

[@Buckwheat56]

It’s literally the best stadium in sports. And USC doesn’t play there. The best setting, best field, best atmosphere. The Giants won the Super Bowl there in January 1987.

[@slickrick51583]

Don't be shocked with UCLA coming into the Big 10 and the Big 10 being a football crazed conference. With teams like Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Nebraska, and Wisconsin having big fan bases that travel. UCLA will see a major uptick in attendance coming into the Big 10 than they ever did playing in the Pac 10/12

[@Jleed989]

With so many alumni from those schools in California

[@allenjerkens9472]

The rose bowl is not a dump. Far from it. It fits its surroundings to a T. The problem is the entrance and exit traffic. It is a cathedral, and changing its look would destroy its appeal. More concrete does not a stadium make. It is not decrypted . Now the cotton bowl is a dump, but rose bowl is not. Please stop the complaints. Saying fans are cheated by the rose bowl facilities is nuts!

[@ronpeacock9939]

The Rose Bowl does have the history and because it does have a full time tenant (Unlike that of the Cotton Bowl), it's kept up in repair and probably has many unannounced reno's done annually. College stadiums though have a different level of problems than their pro-counterparts... mostly because of who often owns them... a college can't threaten to just move out (often, they own the stadium.. it's their baby.. they want a reno.. do it.. and pay for it... ).. where pro-teams.. with the exception of that new one in LA and lambeau.. municiple owned.. so the pro teams are damanding more and more and it's a never ending cycle.. personally, the fan is there to see the game... not marvel at stadium ammenities.. oh some you have to have... vendors, bathrooms... etc.. but some of the crap pros are demanding.. just distract from the game.. I think all pro-teams shoudl be forced to own their own facilities.. and I bet you'll weed the crappy owners out of the business soon... like that Fisher guy.

[@facedownsober3691]

At the rose bowl its hard to see the field. i love the stadium but watching a game in person there is pretty ruff. i wish they would update it.

[@shanekeenaNYC]

Way I see it, the rose bowl needs suites on the other side across from the current set of boxes and it also needs the end zones to be reconfigured to something like what Penn State has.

[@GregoryFariss]

That would ruin the stadium.

[@bobbowie9350]

Rose bowl had a renovation. Its a bowl. It is what it is. Keep it period correct.

[@EvanEscher]

When people say the stadium is old and decrepit, they just mean that there's no luxury suites so they can't charge as much for tickets.

[@Dlitte879]

Maybe reduce capacity? Chairback seats through out wouldn’t be bad. The rose bowl Committee’s cash cow is the flea market events outside the stadium

[@fateagle4life]

The Rose Bowl has a tendency of having the visiting teams getting robbed.

[@23Kite]

Frankly, I think it sucks. Yes, a lot of history is there but modern stadiums and their amenities will beat it every time. As a school that has a modern stadium (Baylor) going to ancient stadiums makes me appreciate how far stadium design has come. Not only that but a lot of the romanticism comes from PAC and Big 10 homers, so as a conference that isn't exactly tied to it, it's laughable to run into those that seem to put it on a pedestal. Give me a modern stadium over an ancient bowl design every time with uncomfortable concrete bench-style seating and horrible sight-lines every time.

[@Jleed989]

That’s bc Baylor has never played there and never will

[@nickmeara5323]

The National Title game location done by lottery. Each FBS program gets a pin ball, and if a smaller program wins the lottery they can out source to the program's desired NFL stadium or other. Louisiana-Monroe could win the lottery & send the game the New Orleans Superdome.

[@Z64sports]

Not every stadium needs to be modern. If that happened every stadium would be the same. I actually don't like the Coliseum renovations

[@saltywalt57]

Rose Bowl belongs to the City of Pasadena. If they think it's in their interest, Pasadena will do the renovation. There is plenty that can be done with the Rose Bowl.

[@haydenhalling8654]

I attened the 2022 Rose Bowl, the stadium is really outdated and crappy. But the history and show pecial the stadium is made it less of a shit show. The game itself was great but at some point there has to be some renovations done to it

[@RobertDavis-db3fs]

I've never been to the Rose Bowl but from what I hear, it desperately needs to be updated. Other historial stadiums (Wrigley, Fenway, Ohio Stadium, LA Coliseum, etc.) have been modernized, so should the Rose Bowl.Extra exits, concession stands, restrooms, etc.

[@bobbowie9350]

Its a bowl. It's been updated not too long ago

[@blacksunshine1089]

I don’t get the obsession we as a society have with “modernization”. Can’t a sports venue just be a sports venue instead of a theme park? It’s classic simplicity is a breath of fresh air when compared to all of the “modern” space age facilities the of the Vikings’ new stadium, Soldier Field, and the new Giant Stadium. It’s beautiful backdrop, and the fact that it’s devoid of all of the prissy nonsense is part of its charm. It makes me long for the days when the game was entertainment enough, and we didn’t night clubs, waterslides, Ferris wheels, swimming pools, and ginormous screens everywhere.

[@diamondvamp8108]

Do you ever go back through your video before you post it because holy shit

[@ec1628]

Wait a minute. You’re doing a video on the Rose Bowl yet you say it’s the home of usc? This tells all of us you did not do your research now did you? Embarrassing

[@88detour]

The Rose Bowl stadium does need to be modernized. When you enter the stadium you're literally walking under the seats. The area under the stadium looks dark and creepy. Its just full of rotting concrete supports.

[@bobbowie9350]

That's the beauty of it!

[@southtext3400]

No the rose bowl is a top 5 college football stadium people disagreeing are wrong

[@GregoryFariss]

I bet all the others on your list are also not new.

[@dillondelhoney714]

That would be cool to put a NC in LA Coliseum.

[@Crakaveli]

Yes, it is and that's what makes it good for college football. No huge jumbotrons or loud music. The game, the bands, and the mountains. College football doesn't need all the extra fluff like the generic sterilized NFL and other pro sports.

[@solodolo528]

The Biggest thing about cathedrals Is replace all the bleachers and modernize the exterior its that simple

[@solodolo528]

rose bowl needs new bleachers new concessions and exterior

[@dandonovan2556]

The tailgate on the golf course is awesome!

[@728huey]

The issue with the Rose Bowl is that it's an old stadium. It's an awesome venue for its namesake bowl game, but it needs to be upgraded for modern games. However, it doesn't need a radical overhaul as opposed to just upgrading the bowl seating, put in proper amenities, and putting in a proper exterior facade. I would spend a couple of years doing renovations while letting UCLA temporarily play in SoFi Stadium and have one of the playoff games there.

[@GregoryFariss]

The facade does NOT need to be updated, that adds zero to the quality of attending a game there. It would also be problematic with its landmark status.

[@bobbowie9350]

Sofi stadium needs a face-lift too then. It looks actually worse than the rose bowl.

[@flrpitflrp1965]

It’s an old facility, they need to do something with it.

[@pauldavis1943]

No argument from me except that a renovation should allow for permanent Natty venue

[@17BikeLife]

At 0:20 he said usc instead of ucla

[@danrhone9756]

Should bring Superbowl event back to the Rose Bowl. I miss the Superbowl takin place there

[@GarnetBailey-jg5wz]

It's not terrible, but not great, either. Traffic out can be nightmarish (most people know that getting there early is an absolute must). The non-premium seats are backless benches (uncomfortable) and the tiering of the seats is poor. But it sure is in a gorgeous spot. Particularly, the west side of the Bowl, where there are beautiful homes overlooking the Arroyo Seco. Lucky people!!

[@dillondelhoney714]

I think it is one of the most iconic stadiums in football.

[@billlong8385]

The profile of the bowl is very flat. It is not easy to see the action, especially if it's across the field. It does need upgrading and luxury boxes on the east side.

[@christopherfreedom7821]

Maybe they should invest in a translucent roof!?

[@lilbeasty1]

I love the new yt shorts

[@benpezzot8805]

It would need around 450 million in renovations and when I watched the cfp it looked badly outdated

[@LoganOX7]

no….the rose bowl isn’t bad (from a Georgia fan)

[@brianhurst2740]

The vomitories are insane!

[@di114n2]

Only stadiums like sofi and Jerry world should be hosting national championships. Stadiums like that

[@guyfaux3978]

Actually, knock out several rows close to the field, and you'd have a pretty good Aussie Rules stadium. Rugby League wants to schedule games in Las Vegas, so maybe the AFL should look into playing a few games at the Rose Bowl. Oddly enough, there's also a Test Match cricket stadium in England called The Rose Bowl and maybe the Pasadena joint could be used for that as well.

[@theoriginaldashriprock]

We don't do rugby here

[@guyfaux3978]

@@theoriginaldashriprock Not till 2031, anyway, when the Rugby World Cup will be played in the USA

[@theoriginaldashriprock]

@@guyfaux3978 that's definitely not something anyone here cares about LOL

[@YOLO_GGY]

Don’t they get a s ton of money for hosting bowl and playoff games? Let me guess where the money goes 🤔

[@thomasmontoya4081]

Why did you say usc

[@jeffreyreyes6800]

I agree ginger there needs to be a renovation without losing it's charm

[@chrisroberts78]

I agree they need to do something to it

[@davidbeck7615]

Got to go😂 once to watch my beloved Cougs run out of time against a ridiculously stacked OP'd Oklahoma team. Respekt. But I remember hanging out outside the stadium basically chilling in a park... I only remember being in my seats watching the game... rockin' the fight song and running into a dorm mate that lived on my floor 6 years prior. Good times besides the L. Inside the stadium was electric. Herb is right on this one. The Rosebowl looks awesome on TV but Granddaddy needs a new hip. Pasadena was nice. Tough, near impossible, to beat that locale (2003). UCLA, you're getting all this Midwest blood money... fix yo $hit.

[@zvbx]

It’s UCLA’s home field not USC.

[@SteveGee1986]

Excellent take. Another place that gets away w/ a disgusting/outdated stadium is BYU. Everyone talks about the view of the mountains while the stadium is a joke.

[@manmy016]

The rose bowl hosted the World Cup final in 94.. the most watched tv event in history.. it’s a cathedral.. end of .. forget college football

[@theomegaman218]

It’s a “retro, traditional” college stadium. It was made for only football. Best stadium in the country. Should be the national title game or on of the simi finals for new years

[@AW3SOMEDUNK]

USC doesn’t play in the rose bowl bud

[@ow_oso]

It’s great. Perfect playoff stadium. It’s the candlestick of college stadiums. So many great games have taken place there

[@zvbx]

They need to rotate the national championship games but rotate also to cold non dome stadiums. It’s not against the rules to play in cold weather.

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

The problem with having a championship game in a cold-weather locale is extreme weather conditions could have an adverse effect on the game. This would particularly affect teams that are not from cold-weather winter climates. Since the college regular season ends before December, even teams from the Midwest like the Big 10 rarely play regular season games in extremely adverse weather. The Big 10 plays its championship game in an enclosed stadium (Lucas Oil Stadium). It would also be hazardous for people to travel to a championship game if a major snowstorm or blizzard occurs during the time of the game.

[@zvbx]

@@HighpointerGeocacher What you call a problem I call football. It’s played in all kinds of weather except lightning. I’m aware that the B1G championship game is played indoors but it shouldn’t be. The NFL plays in all kinds of weather and yes I know they play the Super Bowl in warm weather or inside most of the time but even that should be played in different weather. It’s football. As far as the fans are concerned driving in adverse weather conditions I say too bad, us folks in cold weather states know how to drive in it.

[@gregorymartin3335]

It’s not that they don’t want to it’s they can’t afford to, the residents around them only allow for so many games with most being UCLA with a cheap lease, city owns it and they had to buy the golf course next door just to try to make a little money back

[@jesusm2159]

Build a new one there?

[@GregoryFariss]

Never going to happen. The city doesn’t have the money and it is limited in the number of events it can hold each year, so it would never pay for itself. Residents would revolt.

[@jesusm2159]

@@GregoryFariss ok 👍 no problem

[@GregoryFariss]

@@jesusm2159 you actually deserve a better answer. The area around the bowl is all residential, very pricy houses. Residents have successfully limited the number of events it can host a year and a hard end time for events. They would never allow a new facility. Traffic existing the stadium is a total nightmare. Parking is on the golf course. Residents would prefer it go away. It used to host a single game a year before UCLA moved in from the Coliseum.

[@jesusm2159]

@@GregoryFariss tear it down since sofii is the best stadium 🏟 so cal

[@Z64sports]

​@@jesusm2159 SoFi is an identity crisis in disguise as a stadium

[@bryantsteury8910]

I don't think it's BAD just literally in the middle of a neighborhood, just like Wrigley, a total bitch to get to and from, but it can be super fun

[@AW3SOMEDUNK]

And the games start at 2 not 5

[@keithbeck8170]

I agree with him for once. That place is a dump and they need to step it up or lose the game.

[@battle4truth701]

The rose bowl can get big games. If USC or UCLA make tge playoffs and get a home game.

[@kingjedaiah5030]

If I was a 5 star high school football recruit, I would not go to UCLA for 1 reason. THAT HORRIBLE ASS STADIUM

[@jesusm2159]

Rose bowl 🥣 is awesome

[@aaronjanlistanco]

for me Rose Bowl need a huge renovation/completely new renovation..

[@wlt316]

You CANT update The Rose Bowl is a national landmark so to keep that status....you can not change the structure...update the seats yes but the structure of the stadium no....and had some research been done, you would know that

[@gejordan45]

*UCLA not USC

[@aaronjanlistanco]

Rose Bowl should a permanent tenant to get new Rose Bowl.. and they should get NFL team in Pasadena maybe... I agree to modernize the Rose Bowl.. like a rose like exterior design but a bit open

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

LA area already has two teams, Rams and Chargers, at SoFi Stadium.

[@MrCharlesWidmore]

Oasis next year, coming from Ireland and CANNOT WAIT! 🇺🇸 👍 🙏🏻 🇮🇪 🍺

[@bradypolk7416]

I would like to see it host a Super Bowl agian

[@jer0051]

I miss them having the Super Bowl there. Of course the place needs a facelift..

[@garydavis8213]

I don’t think you’re criticism is unfair. They should change out the seats and change the exterior. Oh, and for UCLA, please do NOT use those gawd-forsaken tarps. (UCLA will never do what they should do, which is build an a on-campus stadium.)

[@kenriknyrelius539]

UCLA can't build an on-campus stadium. There is a state law forbidding it.

[@ralo1001z]

The turf for Michigan vs Alabama was junk, looked great but would not hold up for the players. You would NEVER see the field at Auburn in that bad of shape for any game, much less a major game.

[@Jleed989]

Maybe bad turf would have prevented that Hail Mary?🫣

[@momtyers1830]

i went in 2013 and saw fsu beat auburn and it was electric

[@timothybrooks1429]

The Rose Bowl is the Fenway Park of football

[@TessieLangford]

Don't forget MLS LA Galaxy used to play there home games in the Rose Bowl Stadium from 1996-2002 before they move to the new ⚽ 🏟️ in Carson, California

[@Dixonhill36]

Yes, the Rose Bowl IS that bad! It's a cement toilet bowl. It's SUPER OLD and they haven't done 💩 with it. They NEED to put in REAL seats throughout. It's a joke that they have cement steps with numbers spray painted on as "seats". Obviously I love the history of the Rose Bowl, but it's a dinosaur! It is a complete joke!

[@SnowyFox1831]

Stop bullying the granddaddy stadium of them all!😡🤬

[@davehook-pk7ek]

Jesus, proofread much? USC plays at the Coliseum, UCLA plays at the Rose Bowl. You fuck this up once a video. Come on!

[@EpicSlug]

The cotton bowl should be knocked down. Even the cotton bowl game it's self is not played there any more, it and all the other big events have moved to AT&T stadium

[@214dude2]

It has never been really modernized. They’re doing that now since construction just started. We’ll see if it’s still a dump after it’s finished

[@scottchaleff6802]

I never knew USC played in the Rose Bowl .... it's UCLA Ginger boy

[@bradcleck1]

It has history and that’s it. The stadium itself is just shitty

[@schmoab]

First of all F the Rose Bowl. It’s garbage. But I went to Sofi today and I can honestly say that nrg stadium is better in most ways.

[@scottstewart537]

It’s called Tradition.

[@JAED5]

I think it’s mid

[@AuburnFanSince2010]

So Fi is the best stadium in America.

[@ec1628]

Disagree. Hard to walk around, acoustics are awful, fake grass in Southern California, the scoreboard is distracting, food is awful, and the 500 seats are way too high and distant from the action. For $5 billion, we should have gotten a much better facility.

[@mikes7446]

Fffkkk no