Derya Melik (verbal) Range Report

[@Sandhill1988]

Just wanna make one correction at one point I said 180 grn ammo, I miss spoke it was 124 grn I was referring to. So during testing 124 and 115 grn was used, Mostly 124 grn. 😊

[@Whiskeysunrise69]

I literally slapped my face when you brought up the ammunition, I straight up bought 6 boxes of freedom reman same grain and everything price was really good. Guess I’ll figure it out for myself same firearm too lmao..

[@janemarkham4133]

GREAT INFORMATION BROTHER, I ENJOYED WATCHING!!!! THANKS!! Howard M.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@janemarkham4133 Thank you.

[@graystoke8229]

I have been waiting for this Report! 1. Re-manufactured ammo is a roll of the dice. I previously used Freedom Munition reman ammo but with the round nose bullets. I didn't have too many problems but did experience duds. 2. Have the Langdon Tactical Technologies (LTT) Trigger Job In a Bag (TJIB) w/ 13# hammer spring installed on a Beretta 92. The TJIB also includes the Optimized Performance Trigger Bar that you were alluding to. Sweet shooter. No problems yet on igniting ammo. The LTT Trigger Bar is the upgrade on the top of my list for a Beretta 92. 3. No problems with the Checkmate contract magazines on my Beretta 92 or Girsan Regard MC. I kind of went crazy by installing Wolff extra-power magazine springs and aftermarket base pads. 4. Thanks for doing the Girsan and Derya comparison on the locking block and slide! This information is hard to find online. Awesome public service. 5. Leftie holster!?! I'm the same as well! I greatly appreciate and grateful for this Range Report. It's a bummer we didn't see any shooting footage but nonetheless the impressions and lessons are the most important.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@graystoke8229 Thank you for your kind words It's greatly appreciated. Yeah i'm really bummed out about not being able to post up any quality video. The range was a madhouse and it would Have just been a mess. Completely non audible because of all the background noise and other numerous distractions. Yes You hit it right on the head Langdon Tactical, yup that's what I ment. I'll probably pick up a couple of their trigger bars and fit them to these pistols, from what I've seen they are well worth the investment. I'll experiment with some main springs also. Between the trigger bar and that I should be able to greatly improve the trigger pull. It's not bad now , but it could be better. The funny thing about the dud rounds was the fact that in the identical pistol the literal twin, It was able to function with everything not one dud and it was all the same lot of ammo... Weird. But machines are like that a hundred Thousands of an inch here or their can make all the difference in the world. But I suppose down the road.I will have a follow up to my follow up ;-)). Thanks for watching and thanks again for your comment.

[@puzer1]

...I've done the LTT trigger bar, match hammer and WC SRT with Carbo pro spring kit...everything is drop in and works as it should...

[@IwatchFilm]

That's great, but the cost is two-thirds the cost of Melik...doesn't make sense for this gun in my opinion.

[@GerardoGonzalez-lj9js]

I have a stainless Beretta, after taken them both to the range, my derya clone shot better and had a better trigger out the box... Mind blown 🤯

[@Sandhill1988]

@@GerardoGonzalez-lj9js Wow that is mind blowing. Thank you for sharing those results and thanks for posting.

[@eddiegarcia1921]

Love your video. Very detail information about this Derya clone.. thank you.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@eddiegarcia1921 You are very welcome my pleasure, thank you.

[@joehammer75]

I picked up one of these a couple weeks ago, I also picked up some MecGar 18 rounders and a bunch of the ActMag 17 rounders. Gun runs great. The only issue I've had was that the roll pin in the decocker lever tried backing out. Very happy with my purchase.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@joehammer75 It's a fantastic handgun. Glad Word is getting around. Congrats on your purchase And thank you for your post.

[@JPS1Dec]

I’ve got a ton of new and remans from Freedom, in 9mm, 380, 45, 40, etc. and never had an issue.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@JPS1Dec I probably just got a bad lot, Some of the rounds I tried to strike three times and they wouldn't ignite. But I'll tell you this, I won't be buying anymore for the few dollars you save. Only new manufacturer from now on for me.

[@ryanisbored8273]

shot my malik at the range yesterday! I bought a box of 50 rounds and only missed five shots and that was due to using my non dominant hand, the gun shot like a dream and it was beautifully accurate! genuinely happy with this firearm and It sure was a blast, no pun intended 😂😂

[@Sandhill1988]

@@ryanisbored8273 Great! Thanks for the report. Can't say I'm surprised it's a great pistol.

[@herrcobblermachen]

Thanks for being first on the scene!

[@Sandhill1988]

@@herrcobblermachen You're very welcome.I finally got ahead of the curve for once lol!

[@brucesherman9811]

I have some older freedom munitions reloads that I had the same problem with. They would not fire in my cz75, but in my Glock they worked fine. My newest freedom munitions never have this problem

[@Sandhill1988]

@@brucesherman9811 I could have just gotten a bad lot. They seemed to work ok in the other Melik. Maybe it was just luck of the draw? Either way I took remedial steps to correct any potential issues. Minimal money and time, still half the price of a Beretta. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@carlosfabian8103]

This was a Great Video, wonder how it compared to a Baretta.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@carlosfabian8103 I've owned a Beretta 92SF and from the best of my recollection this is pretty much identical in every measurable way that matters. Thank you for the compliment thank you for watching it's appreciated.

[@frankyfrank2010]

I trust sellier & bellot ammo

[@Sandhill1988]

Yeah, I like that Emma as well but I got a bulk deal and the way they advertise.It sounded like it was just as good as factory new 😊. My next trip out with these pistols.I'm only going to take factory fresh ammo. Thanks for commenting.

[@plantguy100]

Any idea why the Girsan has a 5 1/2 lbs trigger vs 3 3/4 lbs for the Derya? Do you suppose it's just the fitting of the metal on metal parts or does the Derya perhaps have a lighter hammer spring?

[@Sandhill1988]

@@plantguy100 yeah I've got some reasons why it would be like that, and I'm assuming you're talking single action pull weight not double action. It could be the difference in tolerance and fitment as you had mentioned, with a combination of varying spring weights. For example if you took both of these pistols installed the exact same springs you're going to get two different results. Both manufacturers use different grades of materials and their tolerances are slightly different. You could even take two identical pistols and get slightly different results because manufacturing varies ever so slightly from unit to unit especially when you get towards the end of a production run and you have to recalibrate machinery. It's amazing what a difference a hundred thousandths of an inch can make from pistol to pistol. I hope this helps clarify a little bit. Thank you for watching and commenting it's appreciated.

[@plantguy100]

@@Sandhill1988 Thank you My experience is not only do I get different results with different brands, different models of the same brand but even just different pistols of the same type and make, and you've explained why.

[@plantguy100]

Have you compared the Malik to the Taurus 92 or the Girsan Regard series? I keep looking at these Beretta clones, but am not a big fan of the open slide and the narrow rear sight. The trigger doesn't seem bad in the Malik. I didn't notice much creep after you reached the "wall." Did you measure the break weight?

[@Sandhill1988]

@@plantguy100 yes I have actually, the Girsan Regard MC. They are very comparable.I actually own all three pistols. Out of the 3, this is the most authentic clone. The Melik is Quite possibly a one hundred percent clone of the Beretta 92FS. As far as trigger pull, single action is about 3.75 lbs, Is double action around 9 lbs. Do not let the open slide design discourage you. It's a fantastic weapon improbably one of the most reliable proven combat arms in the world, if not the most reliable. That has a lot to do with the open slide design in the fact that the The round is lined perfectly with the chamber as directly fed into it. In my opinion The US military should have never switched to sig. Thanks for watching in commenting It's appreciated.

[@plantguy100]

@@Sandhill1988 Yes, I'm also skeptical of the Army's choice of the Sig p320 which I don't care for, but I've heard too many x military guys complain about the 92. Reliable certainly, but probably too big and heavy to be a comfortable carry. As with the 1911 and Hi-power, I have mixed feelings about the 92. Classic designs certainly and in some regards very good, but also each is deficient in some ways. A 3.75 lbs single action trigger on the Melik is something most striker fired guns can only dream about, so that sounds good. I'm wondering if Derya will put out more updated versions of the Melik with a pic rail and optics slide cut. I suspect they will. I'm not an optics guy, but many people today won't buy a gun without an optics cut, alone no pic rail. What do you think of the Taurus 92 clones? Who makes the best mags for the 92? Mec Gar I assume? How are the Armscorp mags for the 92? Looks like only they make 17 rounders?

[@Razor-gx2dq]

So today I took the Melik to the range to compare directly to a real Beretta 92FS, my experience with both firearms was great and I shot them well. That being said the trigger on the Melik does not feel as good compared to the Beretta, its not a huge difference but its something to take note of if you really like good triggers, both guns were reliable I shot 115 grain Magtec 9mm and a total of 50 rounds per gun out of Mec-Gar 18 round magazines (I know its not a lot but I'm not made of money). The sights on both guns are largely the same except the Melik has a orange front sight post to the Berettas white front post. Overall my experience with the Melik compared to the Beretta was very positive especially since the Melik is much cheaper than a 92FS at MSRP. Now parts compatibility is complicated some things work others dont. Here is what I know for sure works in the Melik: magazines, guide rod, guide rod spring, barrel and locking block assembly. What I know doesn't work: safety lever. Anything else, your guess is as good as mine.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@Razor-gx2dq Thanks for the feedback it's appreciated. Let me ask you about the safety lever. How Do you know They are incompatible? Can you embellish on that a little bit more.

[@Razor-gx2dq]

@@Sandhill1988 I tried putting a Beretta decocker only conversion kit and the safety lever had a lot of stiffness, like metal rubbing on metal. So it didn't work unfortunately.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@Razor-gx2dq Maybe if you took a hundred thousands of an inch off of the new safety lever here and there , it would have worked?

[@Razor-gx2dq]

@@Sandhill1988 its definitely possible but I'm not very skilled with a file and I don't possess the proper tools to do the job.

[@jeepinjohns]

I picked up one last week,unfortunately it has a intermittent problem with the hammer only falling to half cock with the double action pull. I emailed rock island and am waiting for a response. I believe its a issue with the trigger bar. :/ other than that, it's a very nice handgun for the price.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@jeepinjohns I can fix your problem for you right now. The same thing happened to me on my second pistol. It's the trigger bar spring. It is out of adjustment. If you remove your right grip panel and hold the trigger bar up against the frame the double action will function normally. To remedy this you you will have to adjust the trigger bar spring so it puts a little more inwarrd and slightly more upward pressure. Right now it's allowing the trigger bar to kick out to the right preventing the double action pull from functioning correctly. Try it i'm a wizard lol!

[@jeepinjohns]

@Sandhill1988 you are a wizard! lol that fixed it. 😄 thank you very much. I'm happy that I was able to snag one of these at the price I did. Seems they are going up.

[@wheelguns4wheelmen802]

@@Sandhill1988the only one I’ve seen locally had that same problem; thanks for posting so much about the Melik; I’ve watched like five of your videos on it

[@dankinsler1930]

I changed my hammer spring to a 13-pound Wilson Combat Spring and haven't had any issues with Blazer or the cheap Monarch ammo from Academy. The 13-pound spring lowered my trigger pull a few needed pounds. The pistol so far has been completely reliable.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@dankinsler1930 good deal, that's good info. I'll probably eventually try a 14 lb main spring. Thanks for the report.

[@briankohel5291]

Amscor has a promotion to recieve a free 30 rnd mag with purchase

[@Sandhill1988]

@@briankohel5291 Thank you for bringing that to everyone's attention. I actually saw that and I am entitled to 2 of those magazines. But i'm not interested. Rather than give me one eighteen rounder. If you? Can only hear how I make fun of people with those Ridiculous extended magazines.

[@sheldonjohnson7040]

Is this a review of the pistol or the ammo.

[@Sandhill1988]

What does the title say? The performance of the ammunition is a side note to the review. It's all relevant. I actually contacted freedom munitions about this problem, made them aware of it. What they do with that information??? Weather or not they choose to improve their product is completely up to them.I know Until they improve it I won't be buying anymore, not there remaufactured anyway. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@bernardconeghen]

put in the langdon kit and you will have a smooth shooter

[@stevethepirate8907]

All right, a "range report" video without any range time to report on. Probably should have called it something else.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@stevethepirate8907 I actually did follow up by posting some range footage. Salvage what I could , it was a pretty horrible outing but nevertheless , if you look through my videos , you'll find it. Thanks for watching incrementing it's appreciated.

[@camat507]

Do me a favor don't use thumbnails that improperly represent the content of your videos. If your thumbnail shows you firing them you should have range footage in your video. You have none.

[@Sandhill1988]

@@camat507 Duly noted. Yea you know I thought that after the fact. If you listen to the commentary in the beginning of my video I explained that and apologize for it. I didn't try to do click bait trust me. I did have footage and had to cut it because it was horrible. The range had very bad conditions that day. I'm working on trying to get a private area where I could do my actual range footage. I. Do have some footage.I'll try to salvage it and post it. If I can I will definitely put it up. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@camat507]

@@Sandhill1988 absolutely I do enjoy the content. I was just disappointed there was no actual footage. You can't fix range conditions. Great content though. Also what would you say is your favorite Beretta clone so far?