Designing a 1920's Racing Plane - CURTIS R3C

Jeremy takes a shot a prototyping the Curtis R3C2 from Porco Rosso.
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[@joshuawfinn]

I love this. People ask me how in the world I'm able to design and fly F1Ds and rockets and so on, and this is the key right here: never, ever give up. You have to be more stubborn than the air you're trying to beat into submission. The rewards are incredible for those who persevere.

[@MegaXowen]

For me, the emotion on show after "designed a wallhanger" is what makes this vid. what an experience that they dont all turn out just right

[@MrVenom-sg2yv]

Yeah I do this tongue thing since i was a kid, i went to an expert and i was told that I do this thing whenever i am concentrating on something, when you concentrate on something sometimes your brain loses the ability to control (for a short period of time) some of your body parts (in this case the tongue) it is not meant that it loses the complete control it just ignores its movement to concentrate even better. By the way I love what you guys are doing, i was motivated and wanted to get in this hobby so desperately but i was facing difficulties as i was going to the school and now finally it is to an end I HAVE BUILT SIMPLE CUB and EXPLORER all from scratch I LOVE those and they are AWESOME and i am always perfecting them. I am also working on my on OWN plane i have named it THE HAWK. I PROMISE that one day i will become one of you guys. LOVE YOU ALL :)

[@CDRaff]

I had this shop teacher in high school who would stick his tongue out while working. One day he was using the lathe and he was getting saw dust everywhere including all over his tongue. I swear I saw him just put his tongue back in his mouth, again covered in sawdust, swallow really hard, then he stuck his tongue right back out and it got covered again.

[@3100620842]

Christopher Raff haha, ive actually done the exact same thing (had someone tell me afterward). When you have a passion for something, you get in “the zone”, and NOTHING can break your concentration. Doesn’t even matter if your end product is terrible(it helps if it isn’t, though). For creators, the act of creating is what we love.

[@EhhPope]

Please never give up on your builds or ever get sad over them. The audience will always be inspired !!

[@grexursorum6006]

Jeremy turns to be my favorite host. Love your style of presentation! Thanks and keep on going!

[@___echo___]

I love his ideas, theyre always so unique compared to the typical ft planes that come out

[@huaahhggg9507]

🤮

[@Femmpaws]

Hey Jeremy here is a tip for you... on biplanes that have stagger to them you need to work out your CG using the mean aeronautical chord of both wings, not the cord of just one wing. On a biplane you go from the leading edge of the forward wing to the trailing edge of the aft wing to work out your CG. You CG would be at about 25 to 30% of your mean aeronautical chord. I learned this from a friend that is an aircraft designer when I was working up a scale up of Hobie Sorrell's SNS-2 Guppy as a two seat aircraft.

[@bzyksyn3950]

what an emotional finish. I started crying :) Well done!

[@Gantorin]

So much emotion, but a victory in the end. Nice work!

[@emersonb5764]

If you got it on the second try, that’s pretty dang good. Nothing to feel bad about there. I’ve had projects that I poured my heart into that weren’t flyable after 5+ attempts, and others I eventually gave up on altogether, and they were less complex than yours. But yeah, often the best thing to do is leave it overnight and come back refreshed. Good looking plane.

[@alexcarey7166]

Can you guys do another 100mph under 100$?

[@ThePurplePupUwU]

ViZzionZ Official it would bd good eith how much the hobby has changed

[@AaronBlake]

Awesome job Jeremy! Nice message about not giving up too!

[@noahsummerford1326]

Awesome insights into how you guys design. Was super stoked to talk to you about it at Flight Fest. Glad to see you sharing your aspect of it with everyone.

[@nicolasignorelli7360]

I can't believe you really did the curtiss *-* can't wait for the video of those two racing and fighting on the water!

[@Pablo668]

Fantastic that you figured out the fault and got it to work. Really nice looking plane, looks like it flies well too. There is no shame in walking away for a bit.

[@martinlagrange8821]

Hi Jeremy - I'd suggest lengthening the nose by about 5 cm - you will note that the R3C2 has a long Curtiss D-12, and this will make a big difference for the model - the empennage will have more clean airflow, and the extra nose side area will again help offset the floats. Good design overall, looks great !

[@southjerseysound7340]

Plane might've been a little wonky at first but this is one of the first flite test videos I've really enjoyed in a long long time.

[@gus6554]

What a beautiful aircraft... she looks great well done

[@nononsensenorseman]

Glad you got it figured out. Almost nothing is impossible ... You just have to learn from your mistakes. Edison said he found 10,000 ways not to create a lightbulb. I've always remembered that.

[@edwardkie380]

Love the R&D aspect of what you guys do ... What a total hoot!!! Great video thanks guys!!!

[@spacemanshelby]

Love the Curtiss r3c! Hopefully y'all pursue this out to the plans release!

[@gracklefpv8811]

Andres and Jeremy make a great team together!

[@trailblazer1281]

Grackle FPV I know that feeling, I made a biplane and I did everything to get to stop going strait up and flipping over

[@its_arvinsingh]

Yes

[@benhynum9879]

Grackle FPV agreed. I enjoyed this video more than i expected.

[@South4everrwe]

Dude you rock. So much raw emotion and desire to succeed. Good role model for peeps.

[@JohnFSmitheugene]

Awesome plane and awesome video. Thanks for keeping it real, Jeremy. I think we’ve all been there in some regard or other. I’m brand new to the whole Flite Test community/experience and I’m lovin’ it. Devouring as many videos as I can find. Bravo to all of you. You’ve lit a fire in this old guy to get back into it.

[@magnus__e]

Hi Jeremy, never give up! I have been prototyping lately myself. Just a couple days away from completing v0.2 prototype of my 1515mm 60 size acro / 3d printed plane. I have made many prototypes for single parts, but this is the second fully assembled plane. The first fully assembled prototype was heavy and tailheavy, but this time I have lost 1.5kg of airplane :) Hopefully I'll have something to share to the rc community by late fall.

[@rcpilotvideos2773]

Great way to set an example! There were many lightbulbs before one actually worked. Never give up, just go for it.

[@WafflePlaneRC]

Wow! It took you guys one day to diagnose and fix the problem. I was on a Engineering team at Embry Riddle trying to build RC planes for a competition, we had the exact same issue and it took us multiple weeks, about 3 iterations of airplanes, and AS3x to get it to acceptable flight handling...

[@air-headedaviator1805]

I can relate jeremy, I’ve been working on basically the same design for the duration of my hobby career, constantly changing and improving tho not yet having the desired combo of features. But I’ll never give in! I enjoy the act of designing a lot and learned early on nothing ventured, nothing tried, nothing gain!

[@ulaB]

It was great seeing you work on it in person, Jeremy. It's a great example on how to use existing designs to make some new and how to improve it. Loved this episode.

[@AndrewFlyGuy]

FINGERS CROSSED that the build video is in prep for the P-40 release!! :D

[@Mr.J.S.in.A.Z.]

i feel your pain. i was you a couple days ago with our Red Bull Racer challenge. put that much heart into something, it's hard to see it fail. especially when you are used to success. a little humble pie is good now and then though i guess. that which does not kill us... ;)

[@godofcheese]

YES! It is like you guys are reading my mind on what planes to design!

[@drewsin86]

im so happy your apart of the flite test team it's like your picking these out my head omg i love this. thank you brother.

[@comradekerman4189]

I really really LOVE that you are trying to make this plane work. I am SO happy to see you trying to make these two planes! Keep up the hard work, really looking forward to seeing these in the store!

[@harzmana]

I designed that plane for last year's design competition on the forum and had the same pitchy experience. Way to stick with it and make it go!

[@AmpHibious]

nice one. :) i spent about a year away from planes to fly quads and i bought an FT mustang at flite fest and built it the next day.

[@gracklefpv8811]

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who does something with my tongue, I make clicking noises when building and it really annoys other ppl 😆

[@khorne7386]

Same plus I do it in games with any cars

[@sherizaahd]

That would be annoying!

[@gracklefpv8811]

Aaron Williams indeed! Except to me! Haha

[@jamesanthonysantos7785]

I do it if I'm boared

[@michaelnoyola7971]

Never, never, never, never give up.

[@thewoodpost]

Awesome comeback. Never give up

[@infiniteadventure1032]

Looks like a beautiful plane

[@kdobson83]

Wow, from video editing to plane designer! Looks awesome! Great job Jeremy!

[@aaronsbarker]

well done. I can see how that first tail was too small/too shadowed by the rest of the plane to get a good bite in the air. Glad you tried again and shared both the frustration and happiness.

[@tboltjohn]

Your experimenting paid off! The initial smaller tail reminded me of Lindbergh's Ryan NYP which I believe had an intentional smaller tail to keep him on his toes and not in dreamland on his Atlantic crossing. Aside from that, we know some float equipped planes have additional surfaces added to the tail to help flight character..ie the Cessna 190-195.

[@MakeWithMiles]

Good job persevering! Go Jeremy!

[@0calvin]

I'd love to see you guys take a stab at making the DRACO bush plane.

[@svenr5112]

0Calvin that plane is like the Ft bushwacker on roids; totally dig the design👍

[@aerobatgaming2033]

I saw that thing in Oshkosh and man is it a beast!

[@michaelknott4361]

It's a Wilga with a turboprop engine

[@tannerhoelscher8519]

That thing is so cool my dad and mike used to be good friends hopefully I’ll get to see it someday

[@PhilipTeare]

More of this stuff please. Great watching the process.

[@johnwalker4105]

Good job on this one. Good airplane, better story.

[@jaxrcexplorer]

Awesome thought, and awesome thread! I often tell people, I've learned more from my "mistakes" than I have from my successes ( never mind its about a 5:1 ratio! ) ;-) but you have a most valid and worthy outlook, that carries over to all things in life. Thanks so much for sharing the experience, keep up the good work, I definitely look forward to seeing and hearing more!

[@jgplanes5183]

Jeremy’s now has two entries into the fantasy build competition for FF ‘19. The sea duck may have a nemesis also, hint, hint.

[@Morningfire19D]

Great chemistry, Jeremy & Andres, on camera. Should make more videos... and more KITS. Maybe tackle Mega Mustang V2, 1700mm. Or better yet a Piaggio P.180 Avanti... By Christmas. Twin C packs.

[@anti-popfpv4638]

Emotionally invested in your builds, good sign. Dude I'm learning with you and keep having fun. Please keep at it Man!

[@altbob]

Great video. Thanks for showing the process, including the failures and lessons learned. As I tell my students in Aviation Club, and as I told my son when he was struggling alongside me as we both embarked on this hobby, you learn more from your failures than from your successes and it's all about perseverance, patience and fortitude! P.S., I still think that this Curtis could use a few ounces of weight on the tips of the floats to get the CG right ;)

[@jetfuel3053]

Round the front half of the floats now and that thing will fly awesome...meaning round the sides up on the front half...it will reduce effective side plate area on the front half. That thing is COOL

[@evinlittle864]

Jeremy i have another challenge for you and the Flite Test Team. I would like to see the sky pirate fleet off of tail spin and if possible make a fleet speed build kit. Or just of captain karnage's plane. Hope you take up the challenge, and Jeremy keep doing these side build videos, your really good at the. Keep up the great work!!

[@daryl9237]

Wow great job and loved your honesty!

[@honkawmahaki]

Without failure we would never know success! Great Job!

[@harrykarmel4943]

Wow! Thanks so much for making this video. I’m on my first build and it’s crashed maybe 4 times now and I’ve been kind of losing motivation to keep repairing it (it’s balsa, not foam so it takes ages) but this has inspired me to keep on going so maybe it’ll be 5th time lucky!?

[@yayathidayat6678]

We will wait!

[@calummacfarlane8476]

Stability isn't just about centre of gravity. Its about the relation of center of gravity with the centre of all the aerodynamic forces. More surface area aft moves that centre of pressure back so in effect the centre of gravity is now more forward in relation to it despite not physically changing position. The floats are destabilising because they move the centre of pressure of the whole model forward and the couple with the centre of gravity is weakened.

[@sagetx]

Calum MacFarlane Do the floats act as air foils? In other words, like an upside dow mounted long but skinny wing surface? If so, that might be pulling the nose down. Or would the down force be back a bit due to the location of the mounting?

[@calummacfarlane8476]

Sage TX Sort of, they will likely have a centre of pressure both in yaw and pitch around the same point which is forward of the centre of gravity so that any disturbance where the angle of attack or yaw increases will result in a divergent force rather than a restoring force like happens with a tail surface.

[@sagetx]

Calum MacFarlane Thanks. I think I followed that.

[@calummacfarlane8476]

Sage TX no problem. I'm probably didn't explain well but think of a dart. If you make the flights bigger it flies more stable. If you moved them to the front it would tumble.

[@davepetre6252]

Calum MacFarlane I'm not an aeronautical engineer, but do fly a lot of my RC planes on floats. Experience has shown me that adding floats definitely changes the plane. Balance it at the same point after adding floats and it will fly like a very tail heavy plane. My Cub gets a heavy brass spinner but when the floats go on and it flies much better. I built a Great Planes Cub with a 90 inch wing span. It the build instructions it tells you to balance it with the nose down if you add floats. Just a guess but the up slope at the front of the floats must generate lift causing it to fly like it's nose heavy.

[@ROCHELLBOY]

A little diversity in the FT staff. I dig it. Keep up the good work. ;)

[@abbakagep]

Beautiful job Jeremy :) The final product was amazing :) I'm a huge porco fan so really enjoyed this vid. the fact you built that from scratch as your own design and it flew was a awesome job, I have only just started building planes in the last few weeks and have started with the EZ Glider and Tiny Trainer (in its glider config) and hope to one day be as good as you at taking a design and changing it for my own needs :) keep up the great work, you are an inspiration. all the best -Josh-Australia

[@GS-wx5pr]

Well done boys!!

[@derMusicSlasher]

Loved this episode!

[@thenatedog]

thats how my first rc plane launch went. the versa wing. had no idea what i was doing. walked away from it for a few days and came back with some new ideas and got it flying.

[@The1badxj]

Great vid Jeremy thanks for inspiring us to not give up on dreams, set backs are always a part of any great idea.

[@mclags4783]

Great vid, really cool that you showed those ups and downs that come with this awesome hobby. I had a few setbacks while taking part in the Red Bull Challenge. Still working on my plane......it will fly if its the last thing I ever do lol

[@user-oj4zs1cn4i]

Fighting spirit bro..... Love the design

[@minipaintinjohn4490]

Well done guys. Good lessons Jeremy. I really like how you put this whole video together.

[@blankcharlie1]

There are no mistakes Jeremy!! Only a bunch of ways to do something another way!!!

[@castledorerc352]

flight test is my favourite youtube channel!!!!!!

[@alexcarey7166]

Same

[@goober24787]

Never give up! Never surrender! Good job buddy :)

[@justinhaymond969]

I’m loving your designs and seeing new people keep doing what you’re doing and I can’t wait for the kits (ps I do the tongue thing too)

[@Mewhead]

This is so cool. I hope you guys might be to make the Naussica glider.

[@The1stGurehaundo]

Controlled chaos defined as an airplane...

[@garycontner9498]

ADD ABOUT 2-2 1/2 INCHES TO THE REAR FUSELAGE LENGTH OR PUT AUX VERTICAL STABILIZERS ON THE STAB. THE FORWARD PART OF THE FLOATS ADDS SIDE AREA AHEAD OF THE CENTER OF ROTATION and is de-stabilizing. Shift battery to keep C G nearly where it is. Gary

[@prolfinator]

Moar Schneider cup planes please!. Your guy's spitfire would make a great supermarine. Also I'm pretty sure the rc3 had a flat bottom wing with a shorter distance from the leading edge to the trailing. Great franken plane though. Water air racing would be sweet

[@plasticbutcher]

Very cool way to prototype, maybe add an inch or two to the rear of the fuselage, did that to my baby blender and it flew a lot better, keep up the great videos and laughs Rick B aka Plastic butcher

[@drewsin86]

i love hear why i plane has probloems flying and how to fix it. this was a great cima moment when you could see your mind working to over come your disappoinment. i agian really like your stuff dude and am waiting to build a sea angle and now this plane. i really like know why a plane is having trouble flying and how to fix it.

[@emc2184]

lengthen/extend the rear end of the fuselage by about 2 inches, that should give it a lot more stability.

[@Deca.Knight]

You guys are the best

[@andrewmcphee8965]

Loved the video, very inspiring. I'll share my Mini Simple Cub build with you guys on the forums.

[@JacobAAllen]

It may be your pontoons and under rigging that giving you trouble. It the anime the pontoons are arounder and the rigging is a look slimmer.Very cool build. Did you know that plane beat the Italians in the Snyder cup.

[@elijahf111]

That looks awesome!

[@my_dear_friend_]

I wonder if the floats are messing with the center of pressure. Maybe too close to center of gravity. Bigger surfaces on tail moved it further aft (which obviously helped).

[@Deca.Knight]

I love the britten Norman islander at 3:06

[@ulaB]

The white and red one? That's a UMX Aero Commander. The other one is a Flyzone Seawind.

[@shiretook]

Very inspiring to builders, honest, real life. Do you think it would help to extend the fuselage some? I was thinking it might be too short-coupled, but keep on!

[@stratos2]

What about a FT super connie? I would so love this plane!

[@Zweckmeister]

this was great good job

[@lago0827]

The plane looks Awesome and Amazing. Could the pontoon be smaller? To help with flight.

[@Project-Air]

That is one great looking NASA shirt to go with a great looking plane! ;) Loved the vid! More like this! More!

[@dmyers9230]

Great work, great video, great lesson, keep the videos coming. Flite TEST. Can’t wait to see the culmination of the video short to bring the cartoon to the real world (of RC)

[@roelantverhoeven371]

check out the Renard Epervier, really lends itself to foamboard

[@properlytwisted2172]

AWESOME! This has to be one of my favorite designs!..:)

[@jonathanperry3562]

Likes inventing but wants to give up after the first failure. Do you think James watt's engine worked first time ? Have some resilience man! But also very well done I know it's not easy at all.

[@derekdeboer6630]

Can you guys make a speed build kit of this? would love to race this against the sea angel!

[@paulbarnett5818]

Ballistic parachute recovery pod for wings and quads

[@ASTEROIDALAIN]

can you please build a Ft Cessna? ? it be so amazing! !! Full size as the FT Storch! !!

[@amogh2864]

ASTEROIDALAIN yes please

[@orangecayman520]

YES PLZ (All of my other rc planes are Cessnas)

[@mikbacitube]

I think the pontoons need to come down in size or at least way thinners than the original one and maybe the struts need to be bamboo skewers or similar to minimize the drag.

[@C.Sharpe]

I don't do anything with my tongue, but when I lift something heavy, like taking out the trash, my top lip curls up in sort of a snarl...

[@noober124]

Dont be Depressed that plane looks awesome!!!