The Cult of David Dobrik: How to Keep A Group Obedient

[@BradyToons]

*"WRONG!! YOUR NAME IS DAVID'S FRIEND!! YOUR EXISTENCE IS BEING MY FRIEND! When people think of you, they really think of ME!!"*

[@catkat172]

love the meat canyon reference

[@BradyToons]

@@catkat172 hopefully David doesn't see my comment, I don't want him to absorb my nutrients.

[@catkat172]

@@BradyToons *stroke from laughter*

[@MichelleAnnReactions]

Finally! Someone addresses this!

[@zalseon4746]

You know at the time it was funny, but now that i finally know what Hunter was referencing it's got a really horrifying energy to it now.

[@noahryan9936]

All I gotta say is, as a young teenage girl, I was crushed when Liza and David split.. but now I feel like she literally saved herself.

[@RoyHoy]

Saved herself from nothing.

[@noahryan9936]

@@RoyHoy If thats how you feel, cool. I feel different, as I'm aloud. Have a nice day.

[@RoyHoy]

@@noahryan9936 *allowed.

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

@@noahryan9936 hey, I haven’t watched the video yet but if you think she was saving herself I agree, I’ll post another comment in reply to yoy after I finish but I hope for that poor girls mental state it isn’t as bad as yoyr comment makes me fear it is Edit: not to say yoy opinion is invalid before I upset you, I merely mean that for this girls’ sake I hope your initial comment isn’t a good readout of the full picture because anyone being hurt like that needs all the love and support the world can offer and many times don’t get it

[@noahryan9936]

@@gabrieldevoogel6225 hey! No harm taken, I could be wrong. But after watching this video and seeing how truly disturbing their actions are, I'm glad Liza got out when she did is all. I don't think that he or the vlog squad hurt her physically, but just being around that stuff can be damaging. Good luck with the video!

[@brackiumemendo9596]

My heart breaks for that girl who was sexually assaulted and had to endure everyone telling her how lucky she was to be in a dobrik vlog ... I think I'd lose my mind honestly

[@majaquinn]

That was so disgusting to watch and really shows how much control he has over his viewers

[@samzavala646]

clap clap that lil b got what was coming for her for being around those losers. GUESS SHE'LL PICK HER FRIENDS BETTER NOW

[@majaquinn]

@@samzavala646 wtf

[@alex.7937]

You Tube isforincels why so aggressive chill and do not victim balme

[@claranadine1086]

Absolutely. It reminds me of people who say they wouldn't mind being r*ped, as long as the offender is "hot." It's disgusting, it's assault.

[@aybekaya]

Scott saying "David never gets mad, he just gets disappointed" is what sealed the deal for me that this is a cult.

[@chrisbcpack]

thissss

[@robertlee1558]

how so person who doesn't retaliate and try to ruin your career is bad ?????

[@thatb1h855]

@@robertlee1558 its emotional manipulation. anger can often alienate the person it’s directed at, possibly leading to them defecting. however, disappointment will often evoke feelings of guilt and remorse, which are more likely to prompt the person it’ directed at into becoming more complacent to dispel any further doubt

[@robertlee1558]

@@thatb1h855 you’re like a parrot repeating something you heard God the Internet has nothing but dummies.

[@thatb1h855]

@@robertlee1558 😎😎

[@Theworldisyouroyster156]

This is exactly why you should NEVER idolize anyone in social media. Tell your kids and any young people that, and impress it upon them.

[@MadTeaMarie]

And why idolizing ANYONE is bad. Go ahead and respect a particular action or accomplishment, but actively restrain the impulse to go farther and idolize a person. There's always more to their life than you know, and the second you forget to acknowkedge that you have ceased to be rational.

[@Monayla]

@@MadTeaMarie thats exactkly what I wanted to add to this xD idiolizing someone is detremental. i sometimes feel that ppl just refuse to grow up. its a childs nature and a requirement so that the proper bonding can happen, to idiolize its parents and then to have to come to terms with realizing that they are just humans to be able to grow into an adult themselves... all of that is not easy and i feel thats exactly what makes us vulnerable for any "-one"/-"thing" that takes our burden of selfresponsibility that comes with individuality and freedom. we have so many choices and so many ways to educate ourselves. its a lot to handle, so our brains are really prone to give away a bit of stress and follow religion, trends, conspiracies, ...whatever group offers relief and lets u profit from the nice seduction of following "something" like a manual. in this case a "cult leader" in other cases religious leaders, social meda influencers, political sociopaths, etcetc

[@lovesick_loser]

i was raised in a household where it was normal to just separate art from artist for no real reason, and seeing all my friends growing up be crushed when whatever celebrity they idolized got into controversies, i was relieved i never really got that mindset instilled in me... buying merch from, wanting to dressing similar to, or taking genuine life advice from just a random person you happened to latch onto is genuinely crazy to me.

[@camogrrl]

Oh yes this can all be undone by “telling them” Not a chance! Oh, unless you are Beyoncé and I’ll assume she’s not interested in helping you

[@Joee_Kool]

I stream and say this all the time you have to be careful who you trust and don’t idolize ppl, and when you do be aware of it so no hopes are formed.

[@user-xv1cs9mm9d]

He LITERALLY has people permanently altering their BODIES with tattoos, and even recently injuries. THAT screams cult more than anything and I wish that was touched on more.

[@stina263]

Deadass it enforces that heirachy dynamic cause if it was MY friends I would shut the cameras off and be like dude what are you doing this is a life decision take it serious

[@Yng619]

Just take some accountability bruh they are grown people doing they own shit. take shit way out of proportion. It's just a group of fans who makes sarcastic jokes.

[@stina263]

@@Yng619 Did… did you not watch the video?

[@Yng619]

@@stina263 so u just believe a random women on someone's whole career cause she studied Psychology. Shit wasn't even logical. Just a typical women who makes the biggest shit out of nothing just jealous of friends hanging out and having fun together cause she doesn't have any

[@chugchug72]

​@@Yng619 So you mean intentionally harming, almost killing them, encouraging them to do things you wouldn't do yourself for views, telling your friends to ALTER their bodies, pull pranks on them that they can't do it back, trick them into doing things, slut shaming, AND humilating them/making them cry. And that's only the list of things I can remember off the top of my head, that David did to his supposed "friends," but I mean they're only a group of friends making jokes right, there's no way david is intentionally manipulating and harming people for content, right?

[@totallycheckers6494]

The fact you can accidentally start or join a cult, without knowing really scares me. Like, one moment you think you're being supported by the people you love and the next, you're forced to do something you don't like.

[@eileensnow6153]

I had two friends that I had calling me Queen Nikki (not my real name). I was like ten. I started a cult 😲

[@totallycheckers6494]

@Stellvia Hoenheim bro that just sounds like a support group, you'd find in middle school

[@redneckreviews3016]

I was raised Catholic. I was in a cult without a choice.

[@WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo]

Happened recently in UFC thankfully his victim is back to normal but KZbin Joshua Fabia It's an interesting story guy talks like a cult leader acts like a cult leader everybody normal who ever met him Hates him but somehow the problem was with everybody he ever met it's amazing.

[@vincenthighwind7622]

Isn't this how Steven Universe went down 😂

[@mona4468]

One time these two guys tried selling my grandma some Bible books and she was very very religious so she bought them and gave one to me(I've only read the child Bible like the ones with pictures and stuff). We started reading it together and my grandma who has read the Bible loads of times snatched mine and burned both of them immediately. I was shocked and when I asked her why she did that she said "this is not the Bible this is something evil" and I was confused by that but few years later I asked her again about it and she said that the people were cult members and the Bible they sold us was written by them and they wrote stuff in it like "show your devotion to God by killing your kids" and other evil stuff like that. The cult was later shut down and the members were arrested but it scares me to this day.

[@siratlas9005]

WTF I'm glad your grandma took that crap out your life ASAP. It's scary how smart the devil is sometimes..

[@Astartes-6969]

Don't know what this has to do with this but ok. Creepy story...

[@goldfish9150]

Okay but thats actually scary, think about if someones kids read that and actually thought it was something they were supposed to follow religiously. 😨

[@mona4468]

@@goldfish9150 there was a story going around in another neighborhood where they sold the rest of the Bibles and in one family the father became obsessed with the book and was arrested for attempted murder. The arrest did happen but details weren't released to the public and everyone just assumed that it was the books cause there was an article about them in the town's newspaper.

[@Orlando-yp1bz]

god isnt real lmaooo

[@ddwow566]

Tbh back when I was lonely I thought I could join a cult if it was presented just to get rid of the pain of being lonely. Loneliness is the true vessel for cult attraction.

[@Melnokina.-.]

That is why religion and hate groups have so many people. People are scared of being alone

[@thesequeltoobama7030]

@@Melnokina.-. I feel religion can genuinely be a positive thing for the community in certain situations, and that’s coming from an atheist. I think the problem arises, much like we see here with Dobrik, when it evolves from a community to a fundamentalist group that reveres charismatic leaders or certain cherry picked teachings over the well-being of themselves and those around them. More ‘liberal’ (not the American political dirty word, but the literal meaning of being willing to accept the beliefs and practices of others) churches and faith groups do genuinely have the power to pick up lonely or disenfranchised people and raise them into open-mindedness and compassion, but when you’re dealing with those types of vulnerable people, it’s very easy to spiral into perverting those teachings of compassion and open-mindedness into radical ideas and reclusiveness.

[@onca6742]

@@Nopi9 she needs to watch for help.

[@teaseltown]

I love the way you phrased it

[@JannWanna-ev3bh]

​@@thesequeltoobama7030 I agree. The association Apple put with religion and hate groups in the same sentence, along with dictating that that's why it has so many members is... ignorant at best, moronic at worst.

[@_sunchildd]

“just because you’re popular doesn’t mean you’re a good person” ‼️‼️‼️

[@Just999Me]

*People really need to remember this.* Just because they're popular, rich or conventionally attractive does not mean they are automatically a good person. *Believe people when they SHOW you who they are with their actions not words.*

[@thekelleejean]

💯

[@आशाशर्मा-थ1म]

@@Just999Me no one is a good person now a days not you not me no one

[@Cuddleshock]

BINGO!

[@00_png10]

@Alivin Green so with your logic me agreeing to my mom about how the weather is nice is now cult-like? Get your thoughts together mate- maybe YOU should open your eyes because obsessively commenting under comments in this video to villanize PsychIRL because they are making a video about David Dobrik IS cult like behavior

[@ashleydelgado3455]

When you mentioned Scientology and being across the hospital, I got chills. I recently had a surgery in that hospital that I dreaded because of that “church.” When I was younger, I had been attending summer school and one bus stop was at the corner where Scientologists would hang. I was only 15, and they approached me to take a “Free personality test.” Thinking it was on the spot, and trying to be a nice person, I agreed. However, they ended up taking me to the building, with an extra person that suddenly joined us. I honestly don’t know how long I’d been in there, but I felt uncomfortable. The “personality test” took over an hour or so to complete, and they kept purposely prolonging my stay there. When I told them I had to get home to my mom, they said she could come pick me up and she could join the “church” as well. They told me I just had to watch a movie. I guess it was supposed to mesmerize me, but I just got scared. Sitting in the small room they had me in, one part on the wall, behind me, was glass. They were watching me the entire time. I then texted my mom to tell her what was going on, as she had always warned me of them. She told me to get out and not let them hold me back. That’s when I finally had the courage to get out and even then they kept trying to get me to stay. When I was finally about to leave the building, two people were watching me the whole way out. Please be careful out there P.S. real quick side story. I recently stopped working at Old Navy, and I remember I had to do a training course for work. In one of the videos they were talking about discrimination and not tolerating it. When they discussed “accepting all, and every, religion” they ended up showing the SCIENTOLOGY BUILDING and I literally had to go back to make sure they were not messing with me. Now, I don’t know if they’re affiliated with the ‘church’, or they’re too naïve to do their own research about Scientology, but it definitely sent up red flags. Why? Because Scientology only works with Scientology. They do not provide Scientologists work, or any place for that matter, where there are people who aren’t Scientologists. Now I wasn’t ever asked about Scientology at my work which is why I’m not sure if they are affiliated with them, but it was still pretty creepy to see when I know the works of Scientology.

[@orimengu]

What the hell that sounds so scary! I'm glad you didn't get involved

[@SteveWKk]

I went to Clearwater Florida.......to see the Home of Scientology.. Been following it for years, but holy shit...was not expecting the creepy eerie feeling of walking around their buildings....the cameras...security.. Sea Org members on buses because they cant interact with normal people. I was scared. And im a mid 40's Big guy......

[@ashleydelgado3455]

@@SteveWKk that’s terrifying, the fact that they’re spending money on golden ghost towns to avoid paying taxes is absurd

[@milktoasted]

@@SteveWKk same!! I visited the one in LA featured in this video thinking I would just find it fascinating, but I literally had to leave after only a few minutes of observing from the parking lot. There was a dark and evil energy that left me scared. Had to say a prayer to counter the eerie vibes.

[@captainjoy8976]

I remember in school they began telling us to be careful.. in 2008 they decided against making Scientology illegal here in Germany, but been keeping a close eye on them since. Was a weird time.. we even watched a movie about some teenagers joining a cult and taught us about Scientology's methods to lure you in and to never ever go with them anywhere. And I was pretty scared, but I've never met any scientologists and only seen a church once. Made me feel weird though :x like my eyes had caught something i should never have seen

[@ghostfeathers321]

I just wanna say the guy in midsummer was not manipulated to cheat on her he was sexually assaulted I think it’s odd that no one seems to recognize that. He was drugged. If it was woman anyone would see it as assault.

[@wallwrittR]

Thank you!

[@达努佳]

I agree. If it was a women I would have automatically seen it as assault too. I think it's because it's normally done to women and we don't normally see it an example of men. It doesn't normally happen.

[@YellowDia]

THIS just because he was a bad person doesn’t mean we should act like that wasn’t wrong

[@HiipsterGlasses]

I know right?? I hate this impression that he willingly cheated on her because he's an asshole when in fact he was date raped.

[@shifa444]

what u said is right but don’t make it into a oh if it was a women argument. this happens to so many women and people the blame women

[@HarperNell]

As someone who never watched David or even knew what he really did, finding out that this whole time his content has been this openly insidious is horrifying.

[@ZaddyZin]

White priviledge

[@schoolinJOO]

and it was geared towards kids who ate it up

[@Kahtah]

Same, had no clue who this person was at all.

[@ErinAllen-qe7fy]

Same!

[@Sean-xr1xj]

It’s not at all lol you’re buying into this weird narrative

[@riel1791]

the moment where David said "we literally make people want to end their own lives" made me feel sick. disgusting.

[@stormedtie]

Yall acting like other youtubers are angels when none are. Hell David's probably the most innocent one

[@malaer1278]

@@stormedtie nah, CoryXKenshin is an angel

[@its_johnH]

@@stormedtie Ever heard of MoistCr1tikal? Tell me where he fucked up.

[@relax5367]

Eh. I've said worse

[@nunyabiznes33]

@@its_johnH Was that the Avocado guy quarreling with?

[@dudejustletme6644]

The thing that’s crazy about Jonah is that Jonah isn’t his real name… his name is nick and David just decided to call him Jonah one day and now that how everyone knows him. That’s just so crazy to me

[@cutienerdgirl]

That's CRAZY!

[@sannahbouzeghoub3871]

It really is quite indicative of his power and control

[@zorkija4376]

He didn't just decided. He looks like jonah so he called him that, jonah. If thats wrong probably. I geus they began talking about wich celeberty looked like them the most. And decided to call him that🤷‍♀️

[@mw7845]

That never sat right with me. Jeff also added to this in his barber shop series. I enjoy Jeff’s content but I don’t like how he treated Nick. I think they’ve got a better relationship now (not sure)

[@saptab1344]

@@zorkija4376 nah thats not right to call someone a name cause they're fat

[@starbugginout]

I’m a cult survivor. I really appreciate how you spoke on the fact that often until actual crimes or serious allegations come out, nothing can be done. I’m in a similar place where I’m trying to gather evidence but it’s so hard to find people who want to talk

[@DonnaIRL]

It's frustrating that people don't understand this.

[@christmastiger]

I’m so sorry you went through that and really hope you are able to find others who will talk with you and provide supporting evidence. Glad you got out of there

[@adriannayoung4262]

“I’m a cult survivor” 😭🤣

[@therealgowon]

@@adriannayoung4262 imagine being a david dobrik stan 🤢

[@ashleycorona9210]

@@adriannayoung4262 shut up, you’re like 10

[@samanthapadgett2594]

Trisha has done lots of messed up stuff in her life but the vlog squad trying to make her seem crazy for setting reasonable boundaries is wild

[@samanthapadgett2594]

@@perksofbeingaloser 1000%

[@CaptanCrow]

i still think she did have her crazy moments though but yes i agree

[@schoolinJOO]

okay but that being the narrative is why people like you call things she has “done” “messed up” cool aid drinker coded

[@MaliVal]

ironically the fact that trisha still has a platform is proof that this entire video could be applied to her the same way it was applied to david. They are both horrible

[@samanthapadgett2594]

@@schoolinJOO ok so what word would you like me to use? Effed up? Racist? Offensive? I thought “messed up” was an all encapsulating term

[@ashleyking1146]

I hate when David calls it a “bit” as if that’s an excuse to manipulate his friends into doing his bidding.

[@newname3021]

I hate it when his underdeveloped fans use that as an excuse. It’s like they themselves don’t realize they’re being manipulated through a 4:21 video.. don’t know if it’s pathetic, sad or both

[@wastedtalent1625]

Listen, they all know what they're getting into. They don't like David or some of his bullshit but they make money and fame doing it. It's not a cult it's just a bunch of clout hungry people all trying to make a name for themselves....

[@tonybalony1811]

My ex used to say that.... except he would use the word “prank”

[@idkwtp9264]

Well everyone calls it a “bit” or a “gag” that’s just the name

[@adriannayoung4262]

He’s not manipulating no one they chose to do so shut up

[@xxxxxxxxx123456789]

Another way that David did unfreezing imo was by making sure his friends had been drinking alcohol or been drunk.... he'd never get drunk himself but only encourage his friends to drink so that they'd be more likely to do stupid or humiliating stuff....

[@adriannayoung4262]

They chose to do that not David’s fault 😂🤣

[@JAY-hp4ux]

@@adriannayoung4262 did you not watch the video? David has a superior influence as the “king” and holds authority and power over the people within the group in this case it’s the Vlog squad . In order for them to gain money and or notoriety they will do things that please David to gain attention and liking from the person that holds the power. Very very culty

[@El1society]

@@tatum2739 has he been drunk in his own vlogs?

[@bryannao6893]

@@tatum2739 God the response to this comment just prove everything that the video tried to explain. Did y'all learn nothing or are you children?

[@hitthemill8595]

@@tatum2739 By commenting this you are proving everything this video has said.

[@RealToWonder]

David seems like he 100% doesnt really care about his "friends." How do you impale someone in the torso and still pressure people into doing dangerous things?

[@Starburst514]

Honestly, it's like he sees them as toys, that can be put through crap and break, but either be put back together, or just tossed away if the they can't so he can get new ones Ex squad members who left/got the boot for not wanting to keep going with David or were injured/hurt permanently that he saw he couldn't use them anymore

[@anthony310h]

Lmao

[@FYPNLP]

He doesn't care about their welfare. All he cares about is getting the shot. These people are just little robots he moves around for his own entertainment. I always thought his laugh was empty and mocking. There's a low frequency, cold blooded, dark energy about David.

[@anthony310h]

@@FYPNLP lol

[@anthony310h]

@@FYPNLP Or maybe he’s an adult and everyone’s responsible for their own actions this generation loves blaming everyone else instead of taking responsibility for decisions you make in life

[@LuvBugBlaqkHart]

I don't think consent makes abuse any more acceptable than without consent... if you're hurting your friends and you're enjoying it something is wrong with you.

[@regi8976]

You seem boring in bed

[@rainbowscarface2496]

Also consent can be coerced without you realizing it. You could be made to believe what you're doing is okay, and consent to it, even if normally that shit would never fly

[@jessemiller4953]

David is abusing his power to get people to do things they don't really want to do. No is not really an option, therefore they are not in a position to give actual consent, because they are not in a position to take it away (not without fear of punishment)

[@thesleepydot]

@@jessemiller4953 exactly.

[@thelemurofmadagascar9183]

Tell that to the freaks who defend BDSM.

[@aethn7576]

I never liked the people that tried to act above being manipulated like, "I always had a feeling about him" or "It was so obvious." Thank you for explaining why language like this can be damaging

[@abdulla10955]

That's just every internet person for you.

[@bagpaper6964]

time stamp please? thank you

[@ashleybobashly92747299210]

To be honest, though, it was true for me. A few years ago, my younger sister tried to tell me how funny & entertaining he was. She showed me his IG, and I just felt so creeped out by the fact that every single photo was of him fake smiling. Something was off, and checking out his channel did it for me. There was SO MUCH obnoxious, frat boy energy that I couldn’t get through a 4 minute video. The fake laughing alone was too much, not to mention the sexualizing of the female friends, grown men making immature sexual jokes, the fact that there was a middle aged man with a bunch of young people - so many red flags. It was weird to me that kids watched him and his friends. Granted, I was about 25yo at the time, so I was likely older than his targeted age demographic.

[@georgehernandez2156]

I didnt like him because he was being shoved in my face non stop and i didnt get his appeal

[@aethn7576]

@@ashleybobashly92747299210 I think it's totally fine to share your thoughts on him, but I have a problem when people put themselves above others for seeing something they didn't. When people are condescending towards the people who saw differently, because at the end of the day, many were manipulated into thinking everyone was cool with the jokes and bits they would do. So it's sort of one step away from victim blaming to say things like, "I don't know how people never saw it, I never liked his vibes"

[@viola3581]

I would say their loud “Ohhhh” in unison as response to any bit is definitely a chant

[@treemarie3080]

Or their forced, fake laugher on cue

[@sylviabenoit7663]

I'm sorry it was obvious .. who said no one said anything?. Ppl like me who call ppl on their fake cult shit get hated on for raining on other ppls parties.

[@bandamani]

@@sylviabenoit7663 who are you responding to?

[@byrnetdown6076]

@@bandamani I think they chose the wrong thread but idk

[@bandamani]

@@byrnetdown6076 probably, these things happen lol

[@octabodemes]

The sad thing is, now that Trisha is "cancelled" and David's coming back, all these people that seem to have one braincell to only hate one person at a time will be all like "oh David was just misunderstood". Cancel culture is a myth and these people will always be at the top.

[@randid7978]

Okay when I saw Trisha had started hanging out with H3H3 I was shocked, because hasn’t she herself been cancelled several times for being a terrible terrible person?? I’m not crazy right? That’s a thing?

[@CarlosGarcia-nt4wf]

It's not even that people think hes misunderstood, unfortunately it's just that no one gives a dam

[@Lily-loopsy]

I love ur name and pfp dude

[@Lina321_]

@@randid7978 Not a fan of H3H3 anymore, but to be fair after I watched a couple of episodes of frenemies I started to think maybe Trisha is not the terrible terrible person that most ppl think she is. At least not that terrible. She was just hanging out with a wrong and problematic group of ppl

[@randid7978]

@@Lina321_ But I feel like that's always the line when she starts getting scrutiny. I get the feeling she's a deeply troubled person that refuses to try and find help. Of course I don't know her literally at all so take everything I say with several heaps of salt

[@lillyp1699]

my mom got stuck in a cult in california in the 90s. she moved there bc she wanted to be an actress and ended up being approached by someone w a job offer of selling thesaurus’s door to door. This “company” offered free rooms and the “leader” was apparently someone in hollywood who could get them famous, but none of the members on my moms level got to know who it was. They would also go to parties in hollywood which in my opinion was their way of trying to “prove” to the members that the leader really is this powerful man who could make their dreams come through. They would get paid but only enough to cover food, never enough to be able to easily escape. The men and women were also kept seperate unless they were all doing something as a group. She met a man there and they ended up escaping together and he got her pregnant, they then took buses to get all the way back to massachusetts where we’re from. He ended up leaving b4 my sister was born and taking all my moms money and now we have no idea where he is. Thought I’d add this to show that cults come in many forms and its not always about a religion.

[@lillyp1699]

true*

[@pot899]

This is horrifying! I'm so sorry to hear your family had to go through that :(

[@Reelglad]

This entire video discusses how many different versions of cults there are lol The topic of this cult video isn't about religion at all! That said, I am very sorry your mom, you and your sister were affected by one ✌️

[@urheehoo]

@@Reelglad so many cults are centered around religion that it's impossible not to mention lol.

[@ErinAllen-qe7fy]

MA born & raised here- that’s quite a story! Glad your Mom was able to break free. Also I hope you (as well as your Mom & sister) are doing well today.

[@AndreLieberher]

"Mind control has nothing to do with one's intelligence levels, instead it's carefully targeted so that it plays on your vulnerabilities and desires" 29:42 - 29:51

[@majlordag1889]

Yup, many people don't understand this part

[@bu3asalli]

Yep, yep

[@readjordan2257]

i remember reading in a security studies textbook, how The US uses subsonic technology in Guantanamo to make very religious inmates hallucinate a revelation from God and confess to their captors their plans and associates.....with more than moderate success.

[@FukaiKokoro]

@@readjordan2257 really? That’s kinda scary.

[@Sargon-lt7yq]

@@FukaiKokoro the world is way more messed up and esoteric than yall might ever imagine, yall gotta keep distracted to not panic and disrupt the structure of socity itself...hence hollywood and mainstream media mission to bombard your attention

[@knoelle1357]

There’s no doubt in my mind that Dobrik has tons of compromising footage on every member of the Vlog squad.

[@jessicajaynenc1202]

ABSOLUTELY. That’s exactly how these industries (show biz, professional sports , politics etc)are ran and people kept in check . Add to the fact that these people are all of that age where everything is digital and recorded and done for an audience, best believe there’s some freaky /compromising footage no doubt !

[@hallesmith9520]

Oh of course. That's how he controlled them. David: I have this great idea. I'll set my friends up to do a prank that's extremely embarassing and when they don't do what I want in the future I will threaten to post that footage because 'haha funny prank' I am not old enough to have children, but if I ever saw my kid watching this type of content I would be so miserable Also Also... the fact that he continues to make this content all while marketing to children when he 100% KNOWS his behavior is not acceptable, yet he doesn't care because those same children give him his millions of dollars

[@FromTrey]

I'm 100% sure you're right. I don't do vlogs or KZbin stuff but I always have a camera when I'm around friends and family and I've gotten things on video that are compromising. However, I make sure that whoever is involved watch me delete the video so they know I'm not going to do anything with it. I feel that's how everyone should handle something like that.

[@Anxietye]

Oh no fucking doubt. Besides of the fact he can bribe any member w shit tons of money, drugs or popularity. But if all else fails; this man most certainly has Hours of footage that has so much blackmail. Lmfao. It’s just like regular Hollywood. I mean who’s gonna win against someone when an entire county sees your opponent as an angel damn near. Saying no to this man seems like a damn near IMPOSSIBLE task. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@retro9848]

There's no doubt in my mind that there is compromising footage of every single content creator in LA, period. This is a stupid point to make lol

[@bobbiecapewell5333]

As a cult survivor, who fully believed in it when I was in it, I always got a bad vibe from the vlog squad. But it was always am unpopular opinion to dislike the vlog squad. Even if anyone did see a problem, it wasn't possible to say anything

[@cinnamong1rl590]

Exactly! People would kind of allude to it by joking and i wonder if they genuinely thought that it was a cult or atleast cult-like but didn’t say anything for fear of outrage from David’s fans.

[@cinnamong1rl590]

Also, I hope you are doing well and congrats on getting out! best wishes.

[@bobbiecapewell5333]

@@cinnamong1rl590 thank you 😊 going on 7 years out and doing much better

[@Laura-vs6fs]

congrats on getting out! Must have been a very stressful situation to be in and get out of. I am the same. I always disliked them, but nobody ever agreed with me and only now that the most extreme things came up are people finally seeing how horrible they are

[@Myke_thehuman]

Same here, I was raised in a cult and it’s a really strange experience leaving. Especially since I’m pretty sure no one would ever agree that I was in a cult. I mean they aren’t making me physically harm myself or live far away from society so it must not Have been a cult right? 🙄

[@halojade4592]

“we literally make people want to end their lives” shook me to the CORE. they are terrifying

[@Space-Glitter]

paused the video here and had to come to the comments - what an absolutely WILD thing to claim and then laugh about.

[@criptideancia]

I cannot believe that was said out loud and recorded

[@_sunchildd]

i accidentally joined a cult once. it was nuts when i realized it. it wasn’t like ppl in robes and burning candles which is what i thought cults only were. my entire time with those people and the things they would say were fr insane looking back on it. one day i’m determined to do a video explaining bc it’s nuts!

[@wa4645]

If you release it I'll watch for sure

[@DonnaIRL]

Would love to hear about it

[@nomdeplume2213]

Christianity? Haha cuz thats the biggest cult on earth imo

[@hasinhoque3929]

@@nomdeplume2213 Preach !!

[@tweakypoppy]

@@nomdeplume2213 Except cults are supposed to live under the direct influence of their leader.

[@loriegosnell5938]

I love that kid who said “no you’re not Jesus”. We need to be more like that little kid.

[@nodrvgs]

frr

[@alexabueno3806]

what the timestamp?

[@Yeahitsashton]

@@alexabueno3806 same

[@YourNorthstarr]

@@alexabueno3806 5:26

[@maddiemcnugget1076]

Exactly. You have to question the world around you. Question the information given

[@horsegirl07]

When you have to sign a contract to be someone’s “friend” that should say enough.

[@roryslaine7896]

Imagine having the total arrogance and lack of grip on reality where it would occur to you to ask somebody to sign a contract to be your friend? Idk if if that's more infuriating or just downright creepy.

[@lorenebonsu146]

It’s a business. He is giving them exposure and followers they would never otherwise get and pouring time and assets into them. So yes they may freinds but they are also business partners. I don’t know anything about David btw. I am just commenting on this. This is how people get screwed. I read this story on reddit. Man starts business with Freind; no contract because we are freinds. Freind screws him over and takes whole restaurant legally and all the money related to the restaurant. Anyways one must always protect oneself; contracts do this.

[@horsegirl07]

@@lorenebonsu146 that does make sense. I didn’t look at it like a business until I saw it broke down in the video. Just is weird to me I guess but, social media is their job.

[@addijarred5165]

I mean ya but people will do anything to pull you back so NDAs are important

[@nanaagyeman4654]

That's just downright creepy imo.....

[@hanniecat2244]

When David said “We do this better than most people. We literally make people want to end their own lives. ” that was chilling. How can you hear that and still support him? Geez

[@urheehoo]

being a narcissistic psychopath like him i guess? lol

[@Kate-wu2ke]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@franze4]

weird ass fans

[@maddischwab6142]

his audience is made up of mostly children and teens, and that’s the worst part. they will think this behavior is ok because he never has actually consequences to his actions.

[@krittikapaul355]

this is so true, and honestly i'm 18 now and i didn't even know david was twisted till very recently. i didn't really consume his content because it's not my type but nothing even went off for me as a red flag and that's concerning, because there are far more vulnerable ages

[@unc54]

He started posting again last week and his fans are loving it.

[@JeromeProductions]

Yep

[@stephlevesque9972]

Man is one if not the biggest contributor to kids and teens doing absolutely moronic things just to get views. Including dying over it.

[@illivanilli364]

i mean the irony is that the comments are all armchair psychiatrists that are clearly under 25. im no fan of david by any means and have hardly seen his content but if you all reach any harder youre gonna pull something...

[@p0lyxena]

I think Natalie is a really interesting person in this situation. She was David’s childhood friend before becoming his employee (assistant). He love-bombs her constantly with massively expensive things, and in return she provides clickbait and a wholesome/trustworthy image for the group with her ‘girl next door’ thing. There’s even a running joke with the men about how badly they all want to sleep with her, but can’t because she “belongs” to David (she gets referred to as the “mom” of the group where David is the “dad”). It's one of the most blatant forms of objectification I've seen.

[@drhme729]

Nat lost her touch lol nobody thinks of her as attractive anymore. This was a year ago for sure.

[@snehathapa584]

@@drhme729 true

[@12myea]

@@drhme729 that’s not the point

[@bunniegutz2862]

Natalie had said she wasn't working for David anymore and was in his latest video. How long ago was the video filmed

[@HeisenbergerPaints]

@Adison Woodard Jason and Jonah have been hinting at Natalie being a bitch to them for years now so I won't be surprised if she's actually like that.. I feel she's an opportunist and is sticking with David to climb the ladder faster.

[@watermeIonwarrior]

"we literally make people wanna end their own lives" WHAT THE HELL

[@deadmeme7359]

And they was laughing about it!! 😥

[@nomadix6770]

god, i just got to that part and my heart dropped. its like hes a fucking psychopath

[@watermeIonwarrior]

@@deadmeme7359 yeah makes me wanna puke

[@watermeIonwarrior]

@@nomadix6770 it's so disgusting!

[@pardalita]

I know in light of these facts and accusations it doesn't seem like it but he was joking

[@kathyisopod4705]

I am a strong, obstinate, passionate and incredibly (sometimes annoyingly so) independent person. Yet I became trapped in an abusive relationship for several years. When I finally escaped it, I truly had to rebuild myself. I was so broken, so gaslighted and anxious that I wasn't even able to form opinions on something unless I had input from other people. I couldn't buy clothes because I didn't know what I liked. That's what years of abuse does to you. So trust me. You don't need to be some weak-minded person to risk become victim to abuse. All it takes is an abusive manipulator that knows how to target you. To experience that in the public eye must be horrid.

[@skipskylark9525]

you are so brave and so correct kathy, thank you for sharing your experience

[@niwe3631]

I have the same experience. It takes forever to heal. I hope u healed ❤

[@tiffanyrivenbark2697]

I can’t believe that he had a 40 year old, a whole ass ADULT, doing stupid stuff along with him. Age obviously means nothing in maturity. This is just sad all together.

[@emj2383]

Of course not. The younger members are damn near 30 and still act 16/17

[@tiffanyrivenbark2697]

@@emj2383 oh wow, I had no idea the others were that age! I can’t imagine myself doing stupid stuff like this. 😧

[@xsteveconwayx]

I’m in my 30s now and you would be surprised how incredibly dumb adults can be. There’s a reason why a billionaire who shits in a gold toilet convinced grown ass adults to attempt an insurrection for him. It’s because half of all people are kinda dumb.

[@Youllpayforthat]

@@xsteveconwayx when you try to bring politics into everything even when it doesnt make sense. cringe

[@travisumbel6877]

@@Youllpayforthat This video is about cults correct? Seems pretty relevant to me.

[@dumb6795]

"just because you're popular doesn't mean you're a good person" THANK YOU

[@erickam.6066]

💯 true

[@adminoliti6323]

is always the oppositte if high school teaches us something

[@ohyes2247]

High school doesn’t teach you that, our brains do to try to cope with the fact that horrible people can live happy lives :/

[@poudink5791]

It's a correct statement. However, you seem to be reacting as though it were at all rare or controversial, when it is in fact a take so cold as to be below absolute zero and so common as to be easier to find than a rock, like the one which you and the 2.8k people who puzzlingly decided to like your comment must have been collectively living under.

[@schoolinJOO]

mind blowing revelation. 😒

[@dianahi2663]

The fact that part of those people end up in the hospital in situations that they almost died for the sake of the video and still continue hanging out with the person that made them do it says everything. Manipulation is such a hard topic and people always excuses things like:"He did it by himself", ignoring the whole context, influence and enviorment that the person were involved. That's what consists manipulation.

[@seatheparade]

The underage girls who were bombarded with alcohol and taken advantage really made my heart hurt, knowing that they were getting messages that congratulated them for being in david's vlog when it was a traumatic night and getting media attention must've made it so confusing and painful ): You made an incredible video, I hope more people watch and become more aware.

[@midwestbambi]

What underaged girls? what situation was this? i dont think i saw it in the video? other than some assault scandal but I wasnt sure if its that one you're talking about

[@bethanydavis9023]

@@midwestbambi it was in the video

[@bethanydavis9023]

@@midwestbambi it's under the emotional control section, The bit of those girls getting taken advantage of and the views not seeing an issue due to video editing. Not a full accurate summary but enough to refresh one's memory if they'd already watched and payed attention to the whole video.

[@midwestbambi]

@@bethanydavis9023 Ohh thank you! I think I skipped a bit around that part because of the movie spoilers in that section right before that part.

[@KimYuna-nw8hz]

@@bethanydavis9023 timestamp?

[@coriswrld2122]

nick has his whole family attached to david... can't imagine how vulnerable he really is behind the scenes

[@JeromeProductions]

Yeah.

[@sympszn5062]

I didn’t even know his name was nick until this video and I’ve watch David for over a year

[@nunyafukinbizness2984]

@@sympszn5062 that is incredibly sad. do they not even call him by name???

[@user-lx6fj3kf3j]

@@nunyafukinbizness2984 they do but jonahs a nickname

[@RoyHoy]

@@nunyafukinbizness2984 They do.

[@GLORIOUSCHONK]

Who's vulnerable to a cult? Everyone. Why? Everyone has weaknesses, triggers, interests, etc.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

If you believe that I think the way you're defining "cult" way, way too broadly. The definition of cult used in this video was rejected by the vast majority of psychologists decades ago because the criteria for a "cult" fits almost damn near every group.

[@dirtfriend]

@@BiggieTrismegistus [citation needed]

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

@@dirtfriend According to this video I think you're the kind of person who world be vulnerable to a cult. When provided with actually true information you doubt it based on one video and throw out an oh-so-hilarious [citation needed]. You _can_ look things up on your own you know. Virtually no one in the academic community has taken the ideas of Steven Hassan and Margaret Singer since the 1980s for a number of reasons, one of which I mentioned.

[@Dragonflywins]

Unless you are already in another cult

[@texasjaco9385]

I'm not! Speak for yourself, stop trying to speak for everyone.

[@carolinelamb7213]

it’s even scarier knowing his audience was mostly made up of people under the age of 18 aka the most impressionable group of people there is

[@Magnificet_]

Does anyone else feel like Fraternities and Sororities are "cults"?

[@gozerthegozarian9500]

Absolutely! Very few people will allow themselves to recognize that.

[@godpilled9077]

Yep

[@suoutubez19]

Yes

[@taylorstep1413]

They're.

[@isolatedfromeducation5491]

It really depends on the frat or sorority cause some of them are really chill or are based in academics and other ones just want to party and stuff. Its a hit or miss with them and its generally the more social frats and sororities that gets pretty culty with “initiations” that include heavy drinking and stuff.

[@em8625]

I don’t care for drama-but I *do* love all the introspection about human behavior that has come up as as a result of it. It’s all really fascinating.

[@JesusGomez-ob2qt]

I wouldn't call sexual assault drama.. its a crime

[@mochibun3890]

Can we stop calling serious issues and crimes "drama" just because it involves youtubers?

[@1994dannylee]

Same here, I mainly care for drama to learn about human behavior and how to understand them better.

[@jenniferoconnell5506]

@@JesusGomez-ob2qt plll

[@christianjamessoriano5093]

isnt sexual assault a crime not a drama if u cannot distinguish a crime and a drama dont use the internet honey

[@MedaX]

The whole cult thing didn't really click for me until you mentioned that they all live in the same house. Like many people here I've steered clear of Dobrik's videos because I always felt something off-putting about his content so I'm pretty out of the loop. But DAMN he controls these people's income AND their housing??? That is huge power inequality ripe for abuse.

[@dra-j9n2015]

What lol? Pretty much all of these guys have their own mansions in LA lol.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

It would be "huge power inequality ripe for abuse" if they didn't have the option to get a new job and move out. Calling Dobrik's relationship with the Vlog Squad a "huge power inequality ripe for abuse" trivializes _real_ situations where that actually occurs.

[@TylerWardhaha]

@@BiggieTrismegistus Sure. But human psychology is more complex than that. You can hurt, feel like you can loose, etc, no matter how well off you may be. On the grand scheme of things they differ, but the internal pain one feels could be very much the same.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

@@TylerWardhaha I don't deny that at all. In fact it's the the reason why I think it's so silly to claim David Dobrik is running a cult. If _that's_ a cult then so many other things are "cults" that the word "cult" has lost all meaning. That's one of the reasons why the ideas she's using to talk about cults and how they work were rejected by mainstream psychology and sociology damn near 40 years ago. This concept of "cult" has little to no validity in part because it defines "cult" far too broadly.

[@TylerWardhaha]

@@BiggieTrismegistus Cults exist on a spectrum and everyone’s interaction with them is going to be different. The fact that people who leave seem pretty traumatized and fear being in the out group with the affirmation coming from one person leads to some credibility of it being a cult.

[@Timsterfield]

Something always seemed off about David to me. Like there was no life behind his eyes. I've had my fair share of narcissists and sociopaths, so that's what that reminded me of.

[@urheehoo]

i'd lean more towards psychopath than sociopath. i mean they literally said "david never gets mad, he just gets disappointed." since it doesn't sound like he is prone to outbursts, it definitely seems to me like psychopathy. calculated manipulation tactics and a lack of empathy or regard for others' safety, physical or mental.

[@rakijr9176]

The open mouth smile he does with his tongue slightly sticking out always pissed me off even before I knew who he was. That's the way a toddler smiles before they learn how to do it correctly. It makes me think he does it intentionally to seem more "cutesy" and innocent which would appeal to his younger female demographic. Dude just gives off bad vibes to anyone outside his fan base.

[@Deladead6669]

That’s kind of the vibe I get with most big KZbinrs tbh. Like they all have this dead look behind their eyes.

[@Emily-od9do]

He reminds me about that one quote by Christian bale about Tom cruise: “aggressive friendliness with nothing behind the eyes”

[@aphrodieMonkey]

@@urheehoo You've got your definitions mixed up. Your description is actually sociopath, not psychopath (much more common as well). Lol jesus definitely not a psycho. Not to mention probably neither ofc, armchair diagnosis is even more common

[@hg5507]

If you watch David's videos though, everyone on them is so ridiculously desperate for air time. They're all super energetic, loud and trying so hard to be noticed. It's so cringe

[@RareGrandpa]

The ongoing “joke” of doing things to have their names tagged in the vlog (which most times David didn’t even do) eventually became so desperate and even sad at some point

[@Anthony-sn9kl]

Precisely. I am baffled how anyone can sit through one of those without cringing. David just keeps laughing throughout them to add to the already fake hyper-energetic vibes of all. It’s insufferable.

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

As an introvert, it would be hell to be in one of those videos. Loud and ingenuine people?!?! no thanks

[@mauriciotbeep5346]

They litteraly 5 minute videos it shadows just 5 minutes how can you say they’re desperate when you only see 5 minutes of them

[@CannibalOX99]

@@mauriciotbeep5346 literally*

[@ScottHebert604]

Donna I've been subbed for probably over 3 years now, just watched the whole thing while I was working on some stuff. I don't care about Dobrik or the vlog squad but this was really good. I can't imagine how much work it took. Super cool to see your growth as a content creator, I didn't know you had bigger projects like this in you! The whole thing has good points and great pacing, I was engaged the whole hour. Super rad, you should be proud!

[@DonnaIRL]

Hey Scott! Yeah I remember! Hope the farm is doing well :)

[@tausifrfr]

Wholesome moment

[@OhsweetOhno]

@@tausifrfr definite wholesome moment

[@misterminutes4504]

@@OhsweetOhno supah wholesome ☺️

[@absolutelynot524]

@mina✧ this is so wholesome op

[@sofdawg8356]

I used to watch David’s vlogs as a teenager and I used to think it was so fun because the idea of the friend group was so appealing to me. Now that I’m older, it’s so disturbing to look at those videos. He treated people terribly and presented it in a way that seemed lighthearted and fun. And I, as a young teenage girl, didn’t think to question it, because most people that age don’t question it. It’s such an important lesson never to idolize anyone, even if you’re a fan of them. Always question things!!! And thank god my mom didn’t let me buy that Clickbait merch when I was 14 because that would’ve been a terrible purchase

[@brian_akhtar]

me thinking I've never been in a cult. "You may be in a cult without even realizing it." Me remembering I'm in a frat 😳

[@Maria-xu4vd]

Oh no!

[@matttyler9963]

Frats are so cringey dude, leave while you can

[@MistressNilah]

A self-aware frat boy... what'll they think of next

[@babyconch6459]

please be careful!! Just remember to ALWAYS trust your gut instincts when it comes to something being off or not. take care

[@latteknowsbest6365]

Yea you definitely in a cult

[@ashkarra2507]

I’m a cult survivor. The way you broke down everything & explained it all in the simplest terms is greatly appreciated! I hope this helps other people too! Manipulation is one of the three biggest factors in cults the other two are abuse, gaslighting. Thank you so much for your video!

[@oxycodin2253]

Which cult ?

[@ploodomickey6194]

Press X to doubt

[@ashkarra2507]

@@oxycodin2253 an extremist christian cult. They called theirselves “followers” it’s in GA.

[@starshinenylene]

@@ploodomickey6194 cults are way more common than you think. There are real survivors of cults. Think before you make stupid comments

[@rahkhoon1774]

I'm also a survivor. I feel for you and hope you're doing amazing. I really hope this video helps people understand it can happen to anyone! These people can and will break you down from the inside out. Finding any little thing about you they can use and exploit. Even aspects about yourself you didn't even know you had or could be exploited. Especially if you're not in a good situation.

[@jessymfwilson]

Get this girl a Netflix series ASAP. The more we expose these "influencers" the better. This was so well done. Very objective and full of facts. Excellent job.

[@Erin-000]

AGREED JESSUS this needs to spread. I want to see this idea happen

[@orwellianyoutube8978]

Lol, Netflix and the system behind it are cult pushers themselves

[@DhirC35]

Netflix is shit

[@davidbolha]

Nah... "being underground" gives her more credibility. 😆😉

[@sumyunguy6894]

Except for when she freely called out the Catholic Church but failed to mention islam, the reason why the man in the very following clip refused to shake the hand of a woman. That’s bias.

[@ZeldasMask]

The fact that this happens on a small scale makes me truly believes it happens on a big scale in Hollywood

[@cgygflkj]

TWO members almost died from trying stunts for this guy's entertainment and people are questioning wether it's a cult or not???? Can you imagine all the other times major lesions have happened and people have been silenced?

[@youngrootv]

Unfortunately, ‘cancel culture’ doesn’t really exist when a majority of your audience are children. Children don’t have the critical thinking skills to understand this video or see David for who he is or what he’s doing. The Paul brothers have mastered manipulating and marketing to their child audience and so has David. It’s very hard for people like David to leave the public eye of fame. Great video by the way! I minored in religious studies and wrote papers about cults and this stuff in college and it’s nice to see someone doing it in this format! I’m kinda jealous I didn’t think to do this haha, but also happy for you and wishing you all of the success!! Good luck and looking forward to future videos!

[@Orlando-yp1bz]

actually kids do have the potential to understand stuff like that do your research :)

[@youngrootv]

@@Orlando-yp1bz I don’t have to do research when it’s so apparent. This is more of a generalization anyway. Sure some kids do possess these critical thinking skills, but not most when it comes to these kinds of topics, which is why they are taught in collegiate courses. Plus kids shouldn’t be on KZbin according to KZbin’s age requirement lol, but here they are supporting people they do not understand or see for who they are

[@ChrisPaganOfficial]

David’s core demographic is 18-35.

[@lee_wel]

It’s not just kids it’s also teenagers to millennials who look at the “aesthetic” of that “friend” group and wish to have it

[@sophi4010]

@@lee_wel this was me, and still is I'm afraid. As a teenager, everyone around me, irl and online, want to fit an aesthetic. Living in L.A with your friends and filming fun collabs with other influencers is 'the dream.' It is sad, we all just desperately want to fit in. And many of gen z has this mindset where we know better. We know better than to fall for cyberbullying or dangerous grooming tactics. Social media allows us to have more control over what we see and what others can see of us (the fake image). This control allows us to feel older and wiser than we actually are. I'm replying so that another 16 y/o or any teen/child understands that; you are young, you are vulnerable. Please be careful, and don't be shy to take time for yourself and focus on your own safety. As much as it feels like it, social media is not reality.

[@VaptorIV]

People like David Dobrik, Chrissy Teigen, Ellen Degeneres, and many of the like, always gave off nasty vibes to me for many years. Trust your intuition.

[@VaptorIV]

@Penelope Worley Absolutely. Wolves in sheep skin. They are everywhere.

[@alexisrose4221]

I’ve always hated Chrissy and people thought she was hilarious because she would tweet stuff like “mm kids for lunch” or “I just took a big poop” like she’s literally a toddler, it’s insane how anyone likes her.

[@porassrivastava8242]

If your intuition is THAT good then please mention more people that give you a bad intuition

[@VaptorIV]

@PUTOPTION Wow, I didn’t know that. Hopefully his son is alright. Ive read that Hanks is involved with Hollywoods pedophile ring, like most celebrities are.

[@mercenery1232]

I didn't know of the others until now but ellen degenerate had always given me the creep

[@vecksy]

I loved the video, as a french man who speaks a lil english I understood everything you was saying. I learned a lot and I thank you for that! The video actually opened my eyes on a certain MLM Group who IS a cult and I never understood why I was agreeing to go with them even when my subconscious told me that it was up to no good. They catch you at a vulnerable time or state in your life so you follow and after 1 month I understood that I didn't want to be part of that. The month felt like a week, brainwashed everyday having big kind of TED talk meetings with everyone cheering the gurus so you naturally follow and it starts to affect your perception because you cheer everyday to "follow" you start to believe it! I told my family "you'll see it's a great opportunity for me".. I was neglecting them, when a higher up would call me i'd have this joy and answer ASAP.. When my family called, the higher ups started to tell me that they want to stop you from being great and to not pick up the phone! That's when my mind flipped back to normal because I'm a really family oriented person, so I got angry slapped the man and left.. They kept calling me... Threatening me... Sending people to my city... When I confronted those people with like half of my neighborhood (the projects) they eventually stopped stalking me. SCARY!!! So people listen to what your loved ones have to say because they want what's best for you (99% of the time)

[@pastelrust]

When David told his coworker "are you going to show off how stupid you are" after she got a tattoo with his channels name on her finger i realized how much of a sadist he really is.

[@alex7543]

i was looking for a comment that talked about that. what the fuck? feels so like a cult leader branding their members as some sick power play.

[@kaemincha]

yeah that was... a lot. very cruel.

[@Wired_User]

Straight up reminded me of the NXIVM inner circle where all the women branded themselves as property of their owner 🤢

[@jordynbowers1117]

the way he says it too is just so eerie

[@drgonzo1402]

More like a pimp! “You belong to me you stupid idiot”

[@teddypattinson5772]

One part I wanted to add is how David treats women in his vlog and his business. Anybody else thought it was strange how most of his employees are women?( 1 publicist & 3 assistants) 1 of which lived with him for years(Natalie). There has been so many occasions where they all said David treats them very badly. There’s a long running joke in the vlogs of how possessive David is about Natalie. About how he almost never lets her go on vacation or leave LA to see her family. Classic abuser behaviour. When I listened to his podcast I was upset at the amount of time he gaslights them. Meghan (his publicist) would bring up an issue with him yelling at her and making her cry and he would cut her off and say she was dramatic and exaggerating.

[@jojo-lq1iu]

When did David never let Natalie not go on a vacation as a matter of fact she is the one who goes on most vacation and about the Megan his publicist he did was wrong but he had only done it one time so that doesn't mean that he doesn't respect them or doesn't care for them.

[@bryhalla]

natalie is her childhood bestfriend literally living the best life lol i wish i could earn that much money while still able to go vacation so often.

[@S0dap0pb0ttle]

@@jojo-lq1iu thank you for the additional context. I just wanted to add that no matter how good a person has been to you, you have the right to address any situation in which their actions were unkind or disrespectful. Although you may not define someone as unkind or disrespectful as a whole, their action still was. And if they don't recognize the action as being unkind/disrespectful, that's a red flag that this action may happen again. I don't know this situation beyond what's in these comments, but my main point is that no matter how kind a person is, it does not give them a pass to be unkind/disrespectful sometimes. I get that people aren't perfect, but talking about why someone hurt you isn't demanding perfection. It can be a conversation like "hey, I know you were under a lot of stress lately or were just joking, but when you do "x," it made me feel like "y". In future, can you "z" instead?" And if the behavior does not change, you may want to evaluate your relationship with that person and really think about if it's an abusive relationship

[@virgie4715]

@@jojo-lq1iu Abusers don’t abuse just once and there’s been a pattern with David and his employees. These aren’t just friends making videos together anymore, it hasn’t been for a while now. It’s a business and David is the boss. He’s got a lot of responsibility. Was it possibly sprung on him before he was ready for it and gets overwhelming? I totally understand that, but that’s no excuse to take that out on your employees or abuse them in any way for any reason. At first I don’t think David was a bad guy, I’m not saying he is now either. I just think his environment is full of yes-men and it’s got to his head and have him some issues... I don’t see him going away or actually getting “cancelled” tho.

[@itskhawl]

wow i want more info on this, how can i?

[@natalydevous]

"I'm down for putting my life in David's hands" This raises no red flags for anyone? Damn...

[@meeks182]

It raised so many red flags but rewatching it I wasnt sure if he said "down" or "dumb"

[@RareGrandpa]

@@meeks182 hopefully he said dumb, considering he literally could’ve died from being entertainment for David

[@aminajayy]

That’s literally what cult members do

[@SaschaHusenbeth]

he said "dumb", it's quite clear from the context as he repeats the word "dumb" in several phrases in succession

[@abigailtaylor7850]

Why does no one talk about the idea of celebrities as a whole is a cult in and of itself. Each celebrity is their own god surrounded by their followers who stand in awe of them. I really wish someone would talk about this. Almost every single thing you mentioned genuinely falls in line with this concept.

[@mamamooscake]

Agreed. I think people in general give to much attention to ' celebrities '. Every fan treats their celebrity as being so natural and real and funny. Everyone says the same thing about every celebrity.

[@chrisptaco1139]

"We make people wanna end their own lives, hahahahhaha" You know the phrase: when people show you who they are, believe them the first time. This guy has serious serial killer vibes.

[@sabrinachamberlain5150]

Right!! Serial killer with pedophile friends... So wierd!!!

[@mac-doien9298]

True.. people talk fast.. so listen carefully from the start.. they just might tell you how deviant they are.. fact.

[@Daisy-Doo]

charles manson type where he will never do it himself but get others to

[@ongoingsky9347]

Yes. Wise words from Dr. Maya

[@katarina5233]

That would break my heart in case he has those tendencies since he’s the same nationality as me. We have had few serial killers and our nation is peaceful. It’s not like him sharing the same nationality with me is the only thing that would make me sad, but it’d definitely make me feel ashamed that he comes from my country.

[@TaelurAlexis]

I had no idea he even existed. It’s wild how I’m on KZbin every day like it’s my TV and there’s so many creators with millions of followers I don’t even know of.

[@guerillo4047]

Honestly good for you. It's horrible seeing someone you used to look up to take absolutely no accountability

[@DonnaAngeloPixieAngelo70]

I remember Jason doing clips with his son on Vine that were just fun but now he's the old man doing whatever he has to for a buck. I feel sorry for him.

[@wysper6512]

I just don’t get what the big deal is about this guy? I never heard of him either. IDK Maybe because we have a life.

[@Matty002]

same

[@gena4638]

Same! This is the first I've ever heard of him.

[@kelvinw.1384]

Plain and simple, social media has made sociopaths rich and a reason to be outrageous and self centered for views. Its literally uplifting narcissists people.

[@davidbolha]

Mhm.

[@nerfedmann]

You sure you won't misuse authority when there is no repercussion? You won't know about that, since you never in the same position. People can be saint, but only when they are the viewers

[@kelvinw.1384]

@@nerfedmann i've ran government institutions as an appointed representative at the local and state level. I've been on a commission to run investments how i see fit. There is a board but when its packed with poltical loyalist, so its easy. Dealing with narrastic egomanics was a daily occurance with polticians. Hes no better. Power does corrupt the most humble people. But your right there seemingly isnt a control or consequences for this behavior. That being said, no level of money will buy these idiots respect. Yes they have their fans but these influencer will never reach the Hollywood or upper level air they want.

[@nerfedmann]

@@kelvinw.1384 They don't need to reach hollywood, that's like making your solid small cult a part of a bigger cult. Which means you'll be the pawn rather than the king. Better be the snake's head than the dragon's tail

[@kelvinw.1384]

@@nerfedmann yeah but with egotistical people you eventually get tired of being a big fish in a small pool. I swear that why the Kardashians married Kayne. To legitimise themselves to the elite. Only then they made it to award shows and Met Galas. But your right for some their happy just having control and power in their space. I just take the view their too greedy and cant help themselves. We already see it with alot of these dummies pushing fake cryptos

[@centurah]

*Me running a DnD campaign with cult memebers as the main villains* "write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN"

[@CaleyWarrior101]

I think a big part of it all is convincing them “We’re laughing with you, not at you.” When in reality they are laughing at you. Toxic family members said that a lot and sometimes even my grandparents whom I love deeply. The difference being when my grandparents realized it impacted my mental health and how I fared with my mental illnesses they stopped saying that and were more considerate while my toxic family members didn’t give two shits. You can only say “We are laughing with you, not at you.” Is if the person that phrase is aimed at is if that person is truly laughing, enjoying themselves and having fun. Anything else is your entertainment at that vulnerable person’s expense

[@sydneyweiss]

I personally don’t think that someone should have a platform if multiple friends are almost fatally injured because of feeling pressure to do a stunt

[@fedoraman8967]

I don’t understand how people can be so infatuated with people with no talent

[@Nachomoney7q]

Cuz we live in a society no other option but the black pill or leaving the world altogether

[@zackwalton4371]

I agree, I’ve never found Dobrik entertaining or even alluring, he just seems like any other nobody who uses money to get attention.

[@fedoraman8967]

@@zackwalton4371 honestly I think it’s because his entire audience is just as mediocre as him. So when they see someone with no talent getting all of this attention and money and fame, they will feel like they can too. And it’s this weird process where they relate to the mediocrity of the person and watch them, which causes them to get more popular, which causes more people to relate to their mediocrity... which makes them more popular... or maybe I’m full of shit Idk I’m not a psychologist

[@zackwalton4371]

@@fedoraman8967 I agree entirely

[@JustWhyFFS]

@@fedoraman8967 Nah bro, you nailed it. "if I do this, I'll get a shoutout in the vlogs, which will help me financially and help me gain respect." Financially, sure. Respect? Nope. Seems people forget that self-respect is more important than any artificial feeling the "public" gives you.

[@jonvia]

When I lived in Hollywood while going to music school and playing gigs, I had neighbors that got tricked into the Scientology "acting classes" scam. As soon as they realized it wasnt an acting class, they ran outta there.

[@hanthonyc]

Just the concept of seeing your friend really struggling financially, so you hold help over their head in the form of making them get a *permanent tattoo of your name*, to which you use to berate them and joke a sense of "ownership" over them? I'm kind of floored that he didn't know how cartoonishly abusive this is.

[@dra-j9n2015]

Corinna has said that she’s the one that came up with the idea and David just agreed to it lol. And she said that she doesn’t regret it

[@harayaalirak4040]

​@@dra-j9n2015 bro, ur like in every comment of this video doing damage control lmfao.

[@dra-j9n2015]

@@harayaalirak4040 and? What is a comment section for? To comment correct? And that’s what I’m doing. Hope it makes upset lol.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

The friend could have found another way to get money but decided to get the tattoo. If I need money people don't just give it to me. They take advantage of my vulnerability and insist that I do labor for them in return a specified sum of money. I call it "having a job" but it's also apparently abusive.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

@@harayaalirak4040 It's not damage control. It's pointing out the flaws in the video and the comments of which there are a shitload.

[@G625-s1c]

i feel for everyone who is made “the butt of the joke” in their social circles. this role tends to fall on one or two members of friend groups who become the scapegoats. because everything is a “joke,” it’s taboo to speak up and say you don’t want to be treated that way. but over time it gets to a point where nobody respects you or takes you seriously. and it’s a strange position to be in because on one hand if you’re the “class clown” type you feel very loved because people want to be around you, but on the other hand it never feels like you’re seen as a full person, for who you really are. i’ve been in that position before and it felt like if i wanted to talk about my hopes and dreams, or if i opened up about struggling, it would be turned into a joke even if it was an earnest or serious matter. now, when i see that a person often becomes the butt of the joke, i go out of my way to make sure that when i interact with them i ask them how they are and try to be a good listener without having to turn everything into a joke. having a normal one-on-one conversation can be a rarity for some folks, but it’s so important and humanizing for all of us. i think this concept also applies to people who are seen in any limiting role, like “the happy friend,” “the strong friend,” “the complainer,” or “the one who has it all together.”

[@MrRager1007]

It couldn’t have been said better 👏🏽👏🏽

[@kennedykleczewski7835]

I’m so late to this comment but i wholeheartedly agree. I used to be the butt of the joke in my old friend group and it made me feel terrible. It had been funny in the past but it got to a point where they just made fun of everything about myself from my hair to my interests. And when I finally spoke up, they said they were just telling the truth. After I stopped letting them treat me that way, they acted like they didn’t know me.

[@gypsywoman9140]

@@kennedykleczewski7835 You're not the only late person. It seems YT has decided its time for this video to land in people's recommended. I feel what you're saying, though. For a time in high school my best friend since childhood started up with a mean sense of humor (possibly influenced by That 70s Show, which she had recently started watching) calling me names like "sl*t" and so forth. Even years later, I feel like a big baby for admitting it really hurt my feelings. Fortunately, she was a friend since childhood, so when I did finally talk to her about it "You're supposed to be my friend, but you keep calling me these mean things that my bullies call me. It really hurts my feelings." She apologized and stopped. But not everyone feels able to open up, and those who do aren't always so lucky to be heard. It's very sad. Part of me does blame the influence of shows like That 70s Show, HIMYM, Friends, etc where these groups of friends treat eachother like crap and it's laughed off like it's no big deal. Maybe I am a big baby for seeing these groups go out of their way to "burn" their so-called friends and I can't help but think "With friends like that, who needs enemies?" Friends are supposed to lift eachother up when they're down, and help strengthen eachother, be there for eachother however they can, and when they realize they've done wrong they apologized sincerely.

[@whatsonhermindblog123]

Yes

[@sfalcone0530]

Left my 7 year friend trio for this reason, my real problems were looked at like an annoyance to them, I couldn’t be the pretty or the cool or smart friend, just the joke.

[@laurajaynenolan2149]

I do think his charisma is one thing but the fact that he looks cute and isn’t a big guy, he comes across as non threatening and that’s how they get you ahem Manson cough cough

[@korseygorle955]

Or Bundy...granted, however, Bundy wasn't a cult leader. But it still crossed my mind. Because of the ease at which he was able to put his victims and get them to let their guard down.

[@JustAnotherAccount8]

Non threatening and Manson should never be in the same sentence

[@nameofthename]

"cute" "manson" uh

[@laurajaynenolan2149]

@@nameofthename he’s small and comes across as non threatening, I’m not saying Manson is cute I’m saying he comes across as vulnerable as well because of his size and that was a big part of his success.

[@laurajaynenolan2149]

@@JustAnotherAccount8 he isn’t threatening though, that’s why he’s dangerous. His power comes from manipulation of other people not a threatening manner.

[@bjorgemeulemeester1398]

50:20 "this is what we do. We literally make people want to end their own lives" *guy laughs in the background* Straight up goosebumps. The pride in his voice as he said it. Fucking hell.

[@miaallen6161]

david is the perfect example of a quintessential cult leader: “innocently” lurked in the shadows of bigger creators for years, slowly gaining his own close circle of devoted followers and in this case *”internet”* relevancy. before breaking off from his original cult faction and starting his own.

[@kadmerakhninou5710]

that's like blackbeard in one piece.

[@threepac5105]

What the fuck are you even talking about

[@passiveaggressiveflamingo6851]

The Kartrashians were spawned from Paris Hilton’s fame, so I can see that

[@guysumpthin2974]

He is totally “lost” . Money doesn’t buy you a soul , or self-esteem

[@Masterdeath16]

Y’all literally think he’s the devil

[@michelleannor6944]

The thing that shocks me about Dobrik is he is the youngest member of the Vlog Squad. And yet he is the leader of people like Jason Nash who is in late 40s and Jeff Wittek who is 31. It it had been Jason Nash as the leader that would make sense. It's fascinating and scary at how in command he is and he's 24. He's been a leader since he was 16/17.... 16.

[@justjackiie]

It's really a solid example that wisdom or maturity doesn't always increase with age. The fact that someone half your age or 5+ years younger than you can fully take advantage of you is very telling. Something in your life needs to be reassessed.

[@sded7126]

I gotta admit I'm guilty of enjoying David's content. He never gave me many red flags. I didn't look too much Into his content due to the nature of it. But now that I think about it, it's just such a creepy concept. I thought it was just a group doing... You know... Dumb shit. But the fact that David never shows himself doing anything makes sense.

[@prisondaddy5037]

@ayse sorunsal.

[@iheartjbgccb]

Flags are everywhere you just have to see them. That's how scary easy it is to get stuck in someone's web

[@moonbootz5499]

i feel like there were always red flags but they were painted as comedic so we never really picked up on it

[@jeffbain7344]

As someone from the outside, anytime I just happen to stumble across this dude, I get creeped out by his manner. It's like he has the uncanny valley of personalities, you just know there's more under the surface.

[@ThreeMusketeersGaming69]

10/10, was not an infuriating comment, username does not check out

[@Critterpedia0]

As someone who was abused in a relationship from being manipulated; this resonated a lot with me. I am relatively intelligent, but I was still manipulated. I am extremely easily influenced by suicide and depression. It's insane

[@Radratpup]

The scenes of the girl getting the finger tattoo for money gave me an icky, uncomfy feeling deep in my gut

[@visassess8607]

Yeah she literally got branded with his name. Like disposable cattle

[@hanthonyc]

It's such an over the top abusive action that I feel like I'd see it on a cartoon, legitimately.

[@teratoma.]

the good part about it is that he had done it to a self absorbed narcissist

[@adriannnaable]

And the taunting afterwards was so unsettling

[@Stef_phanie]

For me it was asking a friend to tattoo his face/ head (at the beginning of the video) and then saying “oh did you do it? I was just joking” I was like “BITCH?!”

[@slowerhell]

Ok, so basically all these tactics are the same as an abusive relationship. I just left an 8.5 year relationship with a covert narcisst and all the tactics are spot on for that, kinda crazy tbh

[@klucero2011]

I recently got out of a relationship with a covert Narc, and I always say it’s like I was in a one-person cult. I imagine it feels quite similar.

[@christmastiger]

Holy shit me too! Also roughly 8.5-9 years (he held on and tried to pull me back for many months). I was so brainwashed I thought my siblings were being dramatic driving 10 hours to take me away after I mentioned that he physically assaulted me. It took a long time to get “deprogrammed” as it were, hopefully you are doing better now and are able to heal and find someone who treats you with love and respect.

[@goldensloth7]

glad you got out... it's hell

[@jjcobi]

I luckily got out in just under a year.. I can't even imagine 8, stay strong ❤

[@catgro9901]

@@jjcobi same here, it was about a year for me and even though it was five years ago, it still affects me to this day

[@Pixiestix136]

this opened my eyes to how anyone can be pulled in by a cult. you don’t have to be a certain kind of person to be “easily manipulated.” so so sad, but really important to acknowledge and necessary.

[@Sky-ez5wp]

Why would you even think that? It’s always desperate or vulnerable people

[@RoyHoy]

It's not a cult. Of you consider that a cult, then wearing masks is a cult.

[@TheSharjason]

@@Sky-ez5wp that’s simply untrue.

[@notfunny8743]

@@TheSharjason literally the most true thing ever,you don't even try to tell how it's 'untrue'

[@paytonwoods4750]

@@GH23d7sL45 TV. O

[@kowardlywow]

This was such an incredible watch. I planned to just watch a few minutes and get the jist but stayed for every second. Really eye opening. Gonna start paying more attention to the decisions I'm making and what's driving them.

[@keelymay8478]

When david was telling trish "Its crazy. it's crazy. its crazy." for her being upset about Jason making out with seth shows how INSANE HE actually is.

[@jmecular56467]

It's classic gaslighting language - make the individual doubt their own feelings and beliefs.

[@MADKC4Ever]

She was only upset because she didn’t want anyone making out with Jason and she got jealous. It didn’t matter who it was. I’m not a David stan but she was only saying that out of jealousy.

[@valerieb4446]

Cat C of course she was jealous but no one is denying that

[@younube5337]

@@MADKC4Ever okay? Is someone not allowed to Feel “jealous” when their boyfriend is being set-up to make-out with another person? What a pointless comment.

[@gracev8321]

@@MADKC4Ever if my partner that I love making out with someone else. I'll be more than jealous, I would be hella upset.

[@bridgeotto3320]

When he straight up called Corrina stupid I was like, "How can anyone let him talk to them like that/treat them like that and say he's a nice guy and their friend?" My friends don't call eachother stupid because we respect eachother. If your friends are calling you names it's not respect, it's degrading.

[@Megaman54327]

That got me lookin in the comments for this, like what? how can you watch your friend get a tatoo at your behest of something that only benefits you. And your responsse is "are you gonna show people how stupid you are?"

[@rawrruby]

Corina gets money that's why ...

[@auggiemain]

@@rawrruby Corona?? 😭😭😭😭 girl that's the VIRUS

[@re3171]

If ur saying it as a joke and ur friend is ok with that then it’s fine but if it’s obv ur friend doesn’t like it then don’t call them names.

[@drhme729]

@@rawrruby Corinna doesn’t need David for money anymore sweetie

[@danimacke6937]

Can we talk about how disgusting Jason Nash is? He’s in his 40s, and he’s a father. Tana was a teenager for hell’s sake! He needs to think about how that will affect his children. How the fuck would he feel if someone like him did that to one of his children!?

[@Elena-er7zp]

they live in LA. It’s common for these old men to hit on, date, sleep with barely legal women. it’s probably something his kids have seen plenty of already.

[@rufiredup90]

Sickening

[@lillypar8415]

@@Elena-er7zp dawg that’s gaslighting 👎

[@anthonyshipps2032]

@@lillypar8415 look up the word gaslighting cause you hot it wrong

[@lillypar8415]

@@anthonyshipps2032 I think you’re taking the dictionary definition too literally. What I meant is that comments like that are a form of gaslighting, because they were diminishing the criticism that the op was trying to make by saying that it’s normal for older LA men to exhibit that type of bad behavior. That doesn’t excuse said behavior. All it does is act as a way to victim blame and/or take away from the real gravity of the situation. I hope that makes sense

[@SerialChronicles]

Great breakdown, love how you used David to explain cult behavior and made it understandable. ❤️

[@JacF6734]

"YOUR NAME'S 'DAVID'S FRIEND'! YOUR EXISTENCE IS BEING MY FRIEND! WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF YOU, THEY REALLY THINK OF ME! AND THAT'S WHO YOU ARE NOW!"

[@thekelleejean]

The accuracy of this! 🎯

[@marlssa]

MEATCANYON

[@Nova-gb5hy]

did he actually say this?

[@moo2657]

@@Nova-gb5hy nope it’s from this meatcanyon animation they made about david ! It’s funny but sort of creepy

[@Nova-gb5hy]

@@moo2657 ohhh sounds like something he’d say tbh, as a “joke,”

[@Anne-cj2nf]

I think the sole reason why I won't (ever) be a part of a cult is bc I really REALLY don't like big groups.

[@tonybalony1811]

🤣🤣🤣 introverts can be recruited too... maybe virtually lol idk

[@daasocialninja4804]

@@tonybalony1811 you think if they won’t talk to you irl they gonna answer the phone. Honnneey.

[@Kelly99844]

Same 😭😂

[@Elena-er7zp]

He hurt his “friend” so badly and it wasn’t the first time he’d done it. His reaction to that accident and the other vlog squad members who were interviewed for jeff’s series was so underwhelming. Only Susie seemed genuinely affected and worried for Jeff. I did enjoy his vlogs in the past, but I won’t be giving him any new views.

[@thekelleejean]

This. 🎯

[@Justinhulk]

the way the crew literally just saw it as a "jeff will heal fast and this is over" but no he lost sight in his eye and has brain damage.......

[@dandan6778]

Its funny how people speak out only AFTER David drops them from the vlogs.

[@Justinhulk]

@@dandan6778 when that happens they don't really speak to david anymore and he can't really manipulate them

[@toddvandries8767]

@@dandan6778 I guess they feel safer and not threatened anymore once they're out. The brainwashing wont be as strong when they arent embraced by their cult leader.

[@joselocalau123]

what makes me feel so uncomfortable and sold me on the fact that this group is cult-like was Scotty’s video. He’s so brainwashed he genuinely believes David is some kind of god of views and he owes him EVERYTHING. They all talk about him as if they owe David their lives. Also the way he talks of the squad as “us”, “we”, is really disturbing. it makes me feel nauseous

[@miamystical]

When zayne said he didn't know where they would be if David didn't start filming vlogs???? It's not like they would have been homeless on the side of the street or something these are all privileged people

[@terrimitchell-whatdoyouthink]

This is one of the very best kinds of docos - one that instills viewers with reason to stop and think, and to raise their awareness. Well done, as a psychology student myself, I see more red flags in society than ever before. You are a great presenter. Very impressive.

[@Lauraaaaaaaab]

I think the biggest problem is that the majority of David’s following is young kids who really don’t care/think about the ethics of the videos. So as long as they keep making outlandish, viral videos they will keep getting views and stay populair. And since there are always new members added to the group wanting those views, it’s like a whole mechanism keeping each other in place.

[@JAY-hp4ux]

Keeps the cult in order and he remains authority and power 😬key target demographic for his actions to be ignored and not looked further into.

[@goduxunike]

Hold on, at 39:39 Zane just comes out and say that David didn't want the others to do their own videos so he could control the "fake narrative" around their "characters"??? Wow....

[@belds08]

I want to watch the video this clip came from for more context because this clip alone is really bad.

[@DonnaIRL]

@@belds08 The whole interview is 1 hour long, but this clip is from 32:22 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKqunaCmd7Khpqc

[@mw7845]

“It might show a different side of us” it’s like David really sees them as characters and not humans

[@goduxunike]

@@DonnaIRL thank you for sharing! I'm really curious about this nonsense.

[@gabs5189]

@@mw7845 another thing that solidifies that david sees them as characters is, an audio was leaked of david and jason talking, and david said "we need an asian guy" or "we need a black guy" instead of envisioning them as people who deserve genuine respect. he just views them as objects that he can make views off of.

[@nameofthename]

"we literally make people want to end their own lives" that was so messed up that i actually ended up blurting out "what the fuck" irl rather than just thinking it

[@thaislence4614]

ikr

[@baileelyons3388]

Ikr and then they laughed?? Like wtf

[@MXGIRL87]

right, it shocked me how after humiliating him David was still able to get him to laugh it off by saying something so horrible

[@JeromeProductions]

Yeah..

[@chrisptaco1139]

the laughter that follows is chilling to me

[@abigailbuza5169]

I truly hope one of the members that are still attached to David sees this video and decides to get out of that situation. Let’s say that David isn’t trying to make a cult, it is still a toxic relationship and those people would be better find life on their own.

[@urilaf8598]

He is back and everyone acts like he isn’t still the same person he was when he changed Jeff’s life. There is no such thing as cancel culture

[@user-hh9jc9hs8f]

I believe in second chances. Although I’m not a fan or admirer of David Dobrik in any way, I believe he deserves another chance to redeem himself from his past actions. Allow some time and some of his content to pass, and then we can determine whether or not he stuck with his word; actions speak louder than words.

[@urilaf8598]

@@user-hh9jc9hs8f I feel his past action and what he did to jeff do not warrant second chances when people have done far less actual damage and are not given another chance. It all feels like grimey privilege given to these straight white boys and especially when Jeff will suffer with consequences for the rest of his life

[@dylanreed3582]

@@urilaf8598 you sound like sheep defending someone you don’t know. Jeff has already said multiple times that he forgave David. They’re all friends and at the end of the day, they know him more than you

[@dylanreed3582]

Also just to clarify, what David did was terrible no doubt. The only reason I can forgive and forget is because Jeff did. That simple.

[@youngrootv]

Cancel culture doesn’t really exist when a majority of your audience are children. Children don’t have the critical thinking skills to understand this video or see David for who he is or what he’s doing. The Paul brothers have mastered manipulating and marketing to their child audience and so has David

[@phanCAbe]

The idea that "we could never fall for it" is the problem. There's a quote from The Simpsons that encapsulates how wrong everyone is about their own resilience... "This is the worst day of my life. No it's the worst day *so far*, the worst day so far." Everyone is a potential cult member.

[@mariahyohannes]

@The Smoking Salmon not at all lol

[@1ia802]

sorry i dont understand

[@pheasantpluck]

@@1ia802 I agree...I'm trying....

[@user-p287]

he’s ordering his friends around, many of which are 5-10 years older than him, (not to mention jason is double his age) and they all just listen to him??? they all just do what he says with no hesitation??? i get he’s technically their boss now but like ….. weren’t they his friends first?? they just seem like sources of income for him at this point.. kinda sad, honestly.

[@Theeeeea]

They do live together and all hang out a ton, watch the other ppls vlogs

[@marleymarley2511]

Girl go live in your poor shed

[@lordmoncef5494]

@@marleymarley2511 so being poor is bad ??

[@marleymarley2511]

@@lordmoncef5494 hmmm...🤔🤔🤔 Are you jealous of me for being poor

[@matttyler9963]

@@marleymarley2511 you're so wealthy you play shitty mobile games SUREEEE

[@keatonalameda260]

WOW. I just want to say that the way you explained this by showing the most relevant material/imagery to prove the point further is absolutely amazing. You are extremely talented!!

[@keatonalameda260]

Like I mean, it is significantly better than a lot of explanation videos on these topics.

[@keatonalameda260]

my english major ass is shaking lolll