April Fools idea for next year, VaatiVidya and Byf swap channels for a day
@Noah-kc2pi2 жыл бұрын
hell yeah
@azraelwolfsblood29022 жыл бұрын
😴
@souldanny.2 жыл бұрын
That'd be amazing.
@DragonKnight900012 жыл бұрын
If only
@jjbfour2 жыл бұрын
Who
@ArrowOfWolves2 жыл бұрын
While the fountain mentioned is definitely the Wellspring, I think there may be another possibility as to what it was used for. That whatever Savathun did was needed to replace Osiris. In order to replace Osiris, Sagira had to be removed. But even a Lightless Guardian HAD the Light at some point. Savathun never did. So I think she needed Umiña’s Light to cover up her absent Light, or perhaps the “scent” of Darkness itself, in order to complete the shadow that was her disguise. It’s like a piece of fake fruit. While a plastic tomato may look and even feel real, it will never SMELL like a tomato. But, with a little Light, Savathun could. Not only would it line up with when “Osiris” returns, but an oil extracted from Star Jasmine is often used in perfumes.
@cloberlobster22762 жыл бұрын
imagine the fan fictions that'll be written about this. "big goth mommy steals weak guardian into her throne world for some alone time!"
@viitaflor2 жыл бұрын
Well the Rhulk/Guardian fanfics are already out there so why not 💀
@cloberlobster22762 жыл бұрын
@@viitaflor oh I can imagine "giant 🗿 headed man steps on submissive guardians!"
@DrunkGnu2 жыл бұрын
anything for hive mommy
@thunderbird70202 жыл бұрын
@@viitaflor that’s a joke right? There’s no way.
@viitaflor2 жыл бұрын
@@thunderbird7020 not a joke lol
@JoeMagician2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if this curse of light is the same or similar as the one she put on the dreaming city. Rhulk is trapped in a time loop, unable to escape as long as the wellspring remains active. Savathun using the guardians attacking the Vow of the Disciple to continually recharge the curse and Rhulk's cage. The light used to blow Rhulk back into a tree over and over and over harvested to keep him tethered in a perpetual prison. It would be very Savathun to basically use her experiment on the dreaming city to perfect the cage meant for Rhulk, someone she considers much more dangerous than Mara Sov.
@SonicSanctuary2 жыл бұрын
So rluk is now stuck in a death loop like diovolo
@noahkline42632 жыл бұрын
Bro, I never thought of that.. that's actually genius. But how do we stop the curse is still the damned question? Lol Nice detective work though 👍🏻
@prisoner62662 жыл бұрын
@@noahkline4263 That would suggest there's a wellspring within the dreaming city, of some sort. We find it, we disrupt it, we throw a wrench in it so bad it can never work again, we stop the curse. Should be fairly simple, but not very easy
@noahkline42632 жыл бұрын
@@prisoner6266 That is indeed a rather straightforward idea.. but the problem is this, I think.. the wellspring in savathuns throne world is made of light. Or at least is powered by it. But the curse on the dreaming city is a cycle initiated by darkness and vex trickery. When Savathun laid the curse-trap (before we triggered the curse from killing Riven) she was in possession and control of the power of Taking and used this power as some sort of facet of the curse. THE biggest difference is that what has been proposed here for the wellspring cycle is purely cause and effect. The scorn and rhulk attempt to weaken his curse and the wellspring that powers it. We come along and defend the wellspring/knock rhulk down a peg in the VotD raid. The curse on the dreaming city however is a literal time loop that resets every 3 weeks due to the cause and effect there. So while it makes good sense in the comparison of these two situations, the fundamental differences would indicate something other than a "wellspring" of darkness being the source of the Dreaming citys curse. I imagine it to be something intangible that only someone with the power of Taking could manipulate. Savathun could've easily lied when she told us she no longer had the ability to break the curse, but if she wasnt.. then I think only someone with that power can do anything about it. One last thing to consider is the curse is also a function of Wish magic and with Riven dead and very much not an ally.. i dont know if we ever could break the curse. It's quite the stumper. Makes me wonder if maybe bungie is still doing something about a 15th wish and if it might be related to breaking the curse in a narrative somewhere down the line.
@prisoner62662 жыл бұрын
@@noahkline4263 however we do have the tablets of ruin, which I think were what Oryx used to learn to take, right? Combine that with our guardian's propensity for using stasis and some powerful friends we could be able to work out how to at least take a chunk off whatever powers the time loop.
@LordBoZman2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they are trapped in the well, in a state of constant death with their ghost constantly feeding their light into the Wellspring to act as a focus for the Wellspring to bring in more light or hold it?
@leo21lan2 жыл бұрын
But would the ghost really continue to revive them over and over again? Wasn't there some lore where a ghost stopped reviving a guardian after a LOT of deaths/revives? Iirc it might've been part of the glykon story, I'm not sure.
@Bam_Bizzler2 жыл бұрын
@@leo21lan i thought the guardian had to beg for his ghost to stop reviving him cuz he would either die from starvation or the hostiles on the ship.
@noahkline42632 жыл бұрын
@@leo21lan yes. But you're not 100% correct. The ghost *couldnt* rez their guardian. The lore in question is about a guardian who fell into some weird ass time trap doing shit on the Almighty before the Conclave crashed it into the City. The ghost tried to rez but the guardian wasnt technically dead and due to the way the trap/machine/whatever functioned, the ghost couldnt do ANYTHING at all. We never found out what happened to that guardian when the ship crashed. If that could've killed him, he could be brought back now. But who knows whether bungie will pick up the loose thread or not. As far as the glykon thing, also not wrong but not 100% right. The hunter aboard the glykon WAS getting rezzed over and over but it got to a point where he was just dying of starvation everytime he came back so he asked his ghost to wait until some way out could be found or help arrived.. Sadly, the darkness beat out his ghost and he succumbed to the promise of Salvation.. brought his guardian back one last time to confront this turn of events where the guardian destroys his tainted ghost and eventually dies his final death, having no way to be rezzed anymore.
@amcorgi26302 жыл бұрын
@@leo21lan We know this can be done because of Fynch. Fynch doesn't rez his hive guardian, we see it behind him every time we walk up to him. There's more about this in the lorebook Fynch II from Lucent Tales.
@LakersCP32 жыл бұрын
@@leo21lan Can't be true if you've seen me in the crucible
@salvatordesimone19612 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the light from the wellspring is the only thing keeping Savathuns throne world together. We don't know what happens to someone's throne world when they die. The light within the wellspring might be holding Savathuns throne world together like glue and preventing the whole pocket dimension from collapsing. Perhaps that's why the scorn keep coming after it. If they destroy the wellspring they destroy the throne world while Savathun is absent. Maybe a paracausal source is needed to hold a throne world together, aka light for Savathun, dark for Oryx, a mix of both for Mara Sov?
@123mibu2 жыл бұрын
The Throne World of the mindbender was consumed after we killed him we nearly died there aswell back then , if we wasnt fast enough
@SupremeKaiShadic2 жыл бұрын
We know what happens it happened to oryx the throne world it becomes vacant mind bender doesn't count he may have made one but he's no hive so of course after we killed him it became unstable
@paracausallybased2 жыл бұрын
Savathun isn't permanently dead. Imarru is still alive.
@randomakicita69032 жыл бұрын
@@SupremeKaiShadic I'm pretty sure you don't need to be hive to have a genuine throne world, you just have to obey the sword logic
@SupremeKaiShadic2 жыл бұрын
@@randomakicita6903 yeah but I'm saying that since mind bender wasn't hive his throne world wasn't as refined as a hives his was like an imitation
@IASEAGLE52 жыл бұрын
Umiña the goddess of health (Ecuador/Peru) has an interesting story: Just who was the goddess Umiña? There are conflicting tales. One version, Legend and Traditions of the Umiña Goddess, by historian Ramón Chávez García, says that one of the chiefs of the Mantan tribe, Shygui, was married to a humble but very intelligent woman, and they had a daughter with beautiful green eyes, called Umiña. Her mother was healer and priestess in the city of Jocay. When Umiña was 21, her mother died. The following year her father's friends advised him to marry another woman, a wizard of the tribe. He did so, but the public disliked his new wife. They preferred Umiña, who had dedicated her life to helping all who sought medical and religious aid, continuing the beneficial work her mother had entrusted to her. In a fit of jealousy, Shygui's new wife bewitched him into ordering that his daughter be tied to a raft and left for three days without water or food. Soldiers ordered to carry out the sentence were grateful to Umiña and did not allow her to die. After three days, a neighboring tribe found her on the raft, and took her to a friend's house. Her father then decreed that she be taken to the highest mountains, tied and left in the snow, without shelter or food. Three months later, Umiña appeared again, saying that a condor had carried her home. The people of Jocay rejoiced at the news. The witch, infuriated by the ridicule she had suffered, wanted to force her husband to order the death of his daughter, but Shygui, freed at last from her witchcraft, punished his wife and threw her out of the house. In a rage, she vowed that before three moons he would be dead. In a dawn attack, while Shygui was asleep, the witch killed him with a knife. Umiña was sleeping, guarded in another house. When told what had happened to her father, she called to the soldiers to capture the witch. One hundred soldiers set out to do so, but returned saying that when they found her, the evil woman had become a ferocious wolf. Shygui was buried in his own house and Umiña, crying brokenheartedly, lay down on his tomb, refusing to take food. A few days later, she died, after ordering that nobody should move her body. The settlers retired, obeying the order of their goddess. Soon after Umiña's death, people began to notice that her heart had turned into a red stone as large as a fist. The upper part had two green points which gradually grew until they covered all the heart, which was transformed into a beautiful emerald. The new chief took the precious stone, and arranged for a goldsmith to shape its upper part into a bust of Umiña. He built a beautiful temple so that she would be adored like a goddess. From the first moment, sick people who touched the emerald immediately became well. The fame of the Goddess of Health reached many parts of the continent. Visitors came from Peru, Mexico and Central America, donating gold dust and other gifts.
@ChaaDubaItsIidan2 жыл бұрын
Legitimately cool story, bro.
@citizenterra35892 жыл бұрын
Meso American mythology has always been among my favorites. We're lucky so many people endeavored to preserve them.
@VersusMe1012 жыл бұрын
Curious that Void orbs are used to interact with the Wellspring. Void Light, especially contained in orbs, has been a critical part of most of Savathun's plans for years.
@peabrain6872 Жыл бұрын
We went down as a squad of 9
@clayless8701 Жыл бұрын
@@peabrain6872 got picked off one by one
@garrettviewegh6772 жыл бұрын
When Byf mentions “forerunners”, characters that had begun understand the true nature and neutrality of Light and Dark as paracausal forces: Eris Morn, Drifter, the Exo Stranger. I feel he left a few out: Osiris and Shin Malphur. Though, to be more precise, Osiris was one of the first few to question the Travaler’s motivations, and if it was on our side. Not necessarily that light and dark are more neutral forces of nature. Shin Malphur on the other hand, isn’t necessarily a “light purist” with a blind devotion to the Travaler like Zavala or the now mad and corrupt Shayura. He once, and still has a somewhat strict sense of justice. Though, Shin learned this same “grey outlook” on light and dark when he had an epiphany on Yor’s final words. He’d learned that Light alone cannot save us. That only wielding darkness and light in balance would we be able to survive the coming storm. Though he had more of a volatile way to go about it, killing guardians who’d most likely been corrupted by the Witness, instead of teaching them to wield it properly or rehabilitating them like the Vanguard. As for his whereabouts, it’s theorized that Shin is retired, though I’d be surprised if he doesn’t turn up in the lore again, what with some Guardians betraying humanity even with wielding stasis, and the discovery of more weapons of Sorrow like Ostrea Striga. There’s also Ulan-Tan, whose probably laughing from his grave about how he was right, that Guardians could only win against the Witness by balancing light and dark in symmetry.
@ayushagrawal69962 жыл бұрын
Wait, when did Shayura get corrupted? I thought she was a hidden agent who hunted rogue Guardians/Ghosts. She worked for Vanguard, right?
@garrettviewegh6772 жыл бұрын
@@ayushagrawal6996 Aunor is a hidden agent. I think Shayura is as well. She hasn’t been corrupted by the whispers of the Witness. Her ptsd from the red war, and Savathun’s influence on her caused her to be corrupted in a different way: she became a zealot for the Light. Like Shin before he learned the truth that Elsie, Drifter and Eris knows of the light and dark, they aren’t inherently good or evil, we must wield both to survive. Shayura went rogue. Not because if the witness whispering to her, but because if Savathun and her ptsd. Her views on the light and dark were black and white, she started a radical crusade by hunting down Guardians, even though they used stasis for good. Her views are still black and white until she met guardians using stasis, and Lucent Hive. Her dogma on the light and dark was rigid and naive, like the Vanguard is. Now, after narrowly surviving an encounter with a Lucent Hive, her view on reality and the light and dark has been shattered to the point she no longer trusts anyone or herself. By the writing of this, she’s been apprehended again by City security and her fireteam. Now, she’s been imprisoned and awaits rehabilitation. Shayura’s case for going rouge isn’t the Witness corrupting her, it’s her mental trauma and Savathun letting her out later.
Took a guardian to her throneworld and she freaked it
@VADER062 жыл бұрын
The part where Fynch said that if the scorn destroy the Wellspring or control it that we all will be hurt real bad. It just seems very similar to how Rhulk was saying the uphended worked but in this case it seems like this spell works in the same way but if interupted has some type of side effect that may act like the uphended would.
@xogenius26192 жыл бұрын
It’s ok Byf! We support you for taking time off to keep up your mental and physical health!
@BgChf-dg5lv2 жыл бұрын
I believe we’ll at some point rez Savathun. We’ll need her against her sister and The Witness.
@ChaaDubaItsIidan2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Immaru getting away is what we call a Chekhov's gun.
@BgChf-dg5lv2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaaDubaItsIidan I’m aware. Bungie is really running with their story here.
@garrettviewegh6772 жыл бұрын
After that, I speculate she’ll either join us, live in peace and isolation in her throne world after moving it out of, and far from Sol. There is also the possibility Caital, and Mara may try to persuade us into permanently killing Savathun, maybe she’ll accept she’s done awful things, or maybe we’ll have to hunt her down. Either way, her alignment may change when she comes back. If she wishes to be our ally, it may be very difficult to convince Mara and Caital not kill her or persuade us to kill her. The Queen of Lies certainly wouldn’t last long in a court trial.
@SelecaoOfMidas Жыл бұрын
Well... Let my comment be the beacon, as it were. 😅
@woundedhealer85752 жыл бұрын
Well, I heard someone refer to the WellSpring as Savathun’s bath water once. So. There’s that.
@JohnSmith-oc3ze2 жыл бұрын
Think back to the old strike, savathuns song. She’s been harvesting guardians for light to use in artefacts for a while and I believe this is just an extension of that preparation
@demolition36122 жыл бұрын
Lol, I read that yesterday. The whole monologue and the 81 other hive with her Literally perfect timing
@goldfishninja12 жыл бұрын
The scent of the light is either to ward something off or, more likely, to be present as a lingering bit of light in an item/place/person so they/it appears to be a light bearer (or former light bearer). She's the Hive God of cunning and deception. She's using the light like she used the lure.
@ObsoleteVodkaYT2 жыл бұрын
'Umiña' sounds to me like quechua, the language of many cultures across the Andes. After doing some quick research, apparently it means 'gem/gemstone/precious stone'. Also, the Ñ letter makes a more nasal sound than N, like in piñata or the GN in Lassagna.
@vall1822 жыл бұрын
Savasussy kidnaped someone? Yeah seems in character.
@marenjones66652 жыл бұрын
That ñ isn't just an n, but a Spanish letter. It would be "Umin-yah," I think...
@LucienYT2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Lore Daddy Byf is back with a new bedtime story. 👏🏻😴 Been waiting, welcome back!
@ryucloud48002 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Byf! No sorries for taking breaks, personal time is a concept for a reason ~
@Ghost_Toast50002 жыл бұрын
The new lore on the Guardian Games class items have me shook. Maybe spoilers...? The Spider is in the city
@supremeballen64072 жыл бұрын
We already knew that i think
@Flamme-Sanabi2 жыл бұрын
@@supremeballen6407 we did not. Only that they got smuggled out by the Drifter.
@supremeballen64072 жыл бұрын
@@Flamme-Sanabi but there was talk about smuggling him in to the city was there not?
@Flamme-Sanabi2 жыл бұрын
@@supremeballen6407 maybe, but then only speculations.
@gabrielpineirogarcia20782 жыл бұрын
Obviously Spider had another of those fancy Hive translocator runes, and thats why Mara couldnt catch him smh
@c4sualcycl0ps482 жыл бұрын
This is a remarkably different Savathun than her discussion with Nokris. Biting words that may hide meaning, but shorter monologues all together. Something happened to her when she first corrupted Osiris. she is putting up less of a facade here than she did with her own kind way back in Arrivals. Edit: wait so you’re telling me that Savathun used a guardian to “prime” her throne world before her conversion to the light? That’s wild
@redturtle81172 жыл бұрын
in one of the altars, she talked about her experiences living as a human, it definitely changed her a lot
@gabrielpineirogarcia20782 жыл бұрын
@@redturtle8117 She was so used to be a cold and lying Witch, but living as Osiris she remembered What its like to be loved as a side effect of the connection she had with Osiris. She certainly was changed by that... But would that mean Osiris too has changed to be more hive like in mind?
@skybisquit3402 жыл бұрын
Lucky bastard... got the savathussy early :(
@Robin-lg6mz2 жыл бұрын
Bonk!
@cloberlobster22762 жыл бұрын
you mean the skeleussy. ripe and rotten.
@starwatcherusa2 жыл бұрын
For further contextualizatiin, don't forget that the Star Jasmine is actually acquired from beating all four permutations of the Wellspring on Master difficulty
@zebrastripe6652 жыл бұрын
I would expect that the wellspring would've stored or been fed years' worth of light stolen from guardians, like the stolen light from Savathun's Song (the strike)
@cee_ves2 жыл бұрын
Savathûn : *Ahhhh… welcome, oh honoured guest* Guardian : Hive mommy steal my light Savathûn : *what the actual fuck*
@XzOmegaBlitzzX2 жыл бұрын
Lucky guardian, I would love me some Savathussy...
@Ins0mn3sia2 жыл бұрын
While I do think there's something to Umina and the Wellspring. It is worth noting that Savathûn had long since been harvesting the light of Guardians on Titan..that must have gone somewhere.
@garrettviewegh6772 жыл бұрын
Given everything that’s happened, it may be far fetched, but I’d love for us to meet and work with Shin for one season. To interact and see his views on the war going on now, and how he reacts to stasis, and how he would probably argue with the Dark Vanguard.
@slayye56772 жыл бұрын
HOW COULD SAVATHUN DO THIS
@LoFoSho2 жыл бұрын
Boredom?
@cherrybomb19402 жыл бұрын
This title reads like a 'breaking' news headline that reads "THE MURDERER MURDERED"
@vl33002 жыл бұрын
Easily.
@twicebubaigawara21782 жыл бұрын
Why would shield hero do that
@biohazard7242 жыл бұрын
Such a forthright and morally pure character, I too have been blindsided by this sudden and unforseeable betrayal of trust.
@pepelarrza38772 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt mind being kidnapped by mommy Savathun and go to her deep dark dungeon to play 😫😫😫
@aterriblefuze95402 жыл бұрын
BONK!
@IIzanagii2 жыл бұрын
BONK!
@LoFoSho2 жыл бұрын
Ewww lol
@EiJoYuJo2 жыл бұрын
Can I point out the play Savathun made by allowing this ship to even reach our hands?! She states at the end "the ship is recording dispose of it", yet we still obtain not a recording but the very ship... This feels like a greater scheme I can't find the end to...
@thenewseorarek96252 жыл бұрын
Fanfic writers gonna go crazy with this one
@catz_ee2 жыл бұрын
I mean, Savathun's throne world was made from Darkness power originally. She couldn't exactly change the underlying structure of the place without letting Rhulk out, but without the Darkness after she ascended, she would be unable to maintain it and thereby let Rhulk out. My theory is that her throne world is the "shadow" here, and she's using a power separate from her own (Umiña) to make the wellspring, which is the light casting said shadow. It also serves as a foothold for the light, the traveler hung directly above it for the brief moment it was there, and from the other voicelines it seems like we'd lose the ability to use light in the throneworld if it were to be destroyed.
@Rjkay452 жыл бұрын
Wish that guardian was me
@VoreoSabrae2 жыл бұрын
Since it was mentioned at the start, anyone else think the last Lucent Tales entry was actually just a fun reference to Arcane?
@tobysowers46682 жыл бұрын
Do you guys remember how simple everything was in the beginning of destiny 2? My god it came to our guardian so fast they did the story so well…
@DeathsPit002 жыл бұрын
Another possibility is that Umina willing sacrificed their light to make this all possible. Following that, Savathun bared it all to the Traveler in her dying moments and due to this the Traveler chose to revive her, possibly knowing her plan. I believe that the Traveler, knowing this, definitely would have given her a powerful dose of the Light in order to keep Rhulk at bay, along with the fact that the Traveler itself was sucked into her Throne World right above the Wellspring and could have powered the Light Curse itself during that time. The only Mistake Savathun really made was not telling us the truth, but this isn't because she was decieving US. Savathun was decieving THEM(The Pantheon of Darkness). Had she told us straight out what she was doing they would have known and turned on her immediately. Good thing her Ghost is still alive imo. She's definitely going to be a powerful ally in the long run.
@VacadoRay2 жыл бұрын
From the title my first thought: savathussy. Second thought: this sounds like a title for the hub
@ExiILe002 жыл бұрын
“She starts monologuing.”
@v.rocky1112 жыл бұрын
"say no more fam" - ghost literally
@ForgieDusker2 жыл бұрын
last month, i did a one-shot in a fan-made Destiny TTRPG for some friends while our usual DM for that timeslot wasn't able to make it, and ever since, i can't help but have a new appreciation for the deeper lore of Destiny. i don't even know why the possibility of the TTRPG awoke such an appreciation in me, but i love it, and i love hearing more about these interactions in the lore. that said, i'm curious what someone more well-versed in the lore than i am would think of an idea i have for an actual campaign. I was just trying to think of a cool way to give my players the Worldline Zero for fun as a demonstration- and a hint at what may come- in the way of unique armaments, but it evolved into an idea of Vex using a ritual similar to the Hive. so i thought, what would happen if a Hive were to interact with vex radiolarian fluid to the same degree that several other characters in the past have, and turned into a Vex? would they be able to keep their consciousness and individuality? the Hive don't often interact with the Vex, and as far as i'm aware, they haven't even been on the same playspace, planet-wise, in the games. the only record that i know of is when Quria was made, so i'm wondering in what plausible blind spot could i make such an idea work? the actual idea for the campaign was more than just that, though i'm not sure what good it would do, or if it would work given the rules of the actual lore, to have the Vex try and have the Black Garden leech out into other places in the same vein as the Dreadnaught was turned inside-out and blended with Oryx' throne world.
@TCB_Repentless2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I only read the title and thought this was going to lead to another "the helmet stayed on" situation/misunderstanding
@kentsnyder86642 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I agree that it sounds like Sav lured the Guardian in to use their light.
@xecutioneralpha-2273 Жыл бұрын
I mean this could go all the way back to that strike where we find out that savathun is turning guardians into orbs of light energy. Maybe That was to see if she could harvest some form of energy from light bearers. It also created an easier form for them to be stored away and used as ingredients for the wellspring.
@savagecabbage6.0 Жыл бұрын
Someone from our community with a wife, you Byf, are the most successful of us all.
@Kojack1502 жыл бұрын
Wow..... she really opted to violence against us.... But didn't have to....
@jn69uk2 жыл бұрын
Byf has a Wyf? Livin the good Lyf!
@a2izo2 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering two days ago about this because the lore was so so grim.
@itsbandar2 жыл бұрын
15:15 you couldn't resist the titan code 🤛🏻
@sunhouse12442 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, idk how important it is you, but for umiñas name, ñ in Spanish makes it like “umin-ya””
@ravous2462 жыл бұрын
not me just realizing that i havent been subscribed to byf after watching his vids for years. woops lol
@vette12 жыл бұрын
Uminas name has to be remembered what a G
@BloodhawkProductions2 жыл бұрын
"if the scorn destroy it, we will be hurting"... Sorry, why don't we destroy it?
@deathman1292 жыл бұрын
just a question but will we be getting any lore on (and is there) what hawthorne has been up to since the end of the red war, and her opinions on whats happening?
@Ex-D-2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly the area in the throne world that houses a bunch of containers of tainted light, the area where you retrieve the shard from the chrysalis, is under the wellspring. Maybe each vessel hold a guardians light that Savathun lure into the throne world. She is probably the more educated individual when it comes to the intricacies of the light. She had to know as soon as she made the bargain with Mara the worm gods would all know and Rhulk would act with the upended. She could have used the light she harvested to enact the light curse until she herself was able to maintain it with her own light.
@Gen_Vicious2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to ByfWyf for holding you down!
@GrimGunstar2 жыл бұрын
Really wish the game was as great as your lore videos.. it would be perfect.
@acooldude22262 жыл бұрын
AAAAYEEEE BYF'S BACK
@ThePatrynHaplo2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're feeling better!
@fatty10402 жыл бұрын
LMAO I didnt expect Savuthun waifu this fast
@wearsjorge552 жыл бұрын
In regards to the wellspring or whatever this trough of the gods is, is this how sav is able to gift the light to her hive? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think we have a reason for the hive being chosen other than they're randomly chosen which is crazy because sav has a huge army of lucent hive. Is she able to use this object to share her light or take it from others to give to her own hive?
@dexterthielhelm43422 жыл бұрын
If I’m not mistaken, the hive ghosts were disgruntled lone ghosts who haven’t found a guardian to revive yet.
@wearsjorge552 жыл бұрын
@@dexterthielhelm4342 fair enough, I'd be pretty pissed to if I was wondering around the cosmos for decent corpse and couldn't find one amongst the billions of them
@twohorsesinamancostume76062 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the Lucent Brood and their plans? I keep seeing people saying that they feel bad killing Hive Ghosts and that they weren't a threat to us, which this season proves is nonsense.
@felipebatistadeoliveira2112 жыл бұрын
Im shaking and crying right now
@bhaynes3332 жыл бұрын
What if Umina isn't dead, but trapped and may even have become one of Savathunes first direct guardian hive hybrid tests? They would be infused with hive magic and the light, which we see in things like the void crystals and lucient hive to have explosively powerful results. It wouldn't be the first time the hive have used a living being as a power source. With whatever torture Umina might go through in the process causing them to lose their mind and attack anything with their newfound power, Savathune might have had to lock them in the fountain. Instead of a victim of it, they would be a source, cursed to be trapped by hive magic mixed with light. Only reason I suggest this is because the lore entry doesn't specifically say they are dead or alive. Probably a wild thought but it would really be interesting and could lead to even more future possibilities to introduce the guardians to tools and powers of their own forged with light and hive magic. Sounds like we could use more weapons of hope in the future and this may lead to that.
@vladimirpetrov22502 жыл бұрын
Is tslayp gonna come back?
@brianpenders81152 жыл бұрын
Missed ya Byf!
@cynetr74312 жыл бұрын
Could the Scorn not use the wellspring to gain control of and distribute the Light among themselves? Essentially stealing it from Savathûn and the Hive? I think you mentioned something about how the Wellspring is how the Light is distributed amongst the Hive. So, in theory, could the Scorn, instead of wanting to destroy it, rather want control of it so that they might obtain the Light and become more powerful? I’m sorry if it’s a dumb question, but it never hurts to ask, right? lol
@patricklarsson23722 жыл бұрын
Nice wife shoutout. They're the best parts of us. And we help them be the best they can.
@surprizeforyou2 жыл бұрын
Why don't Hive gods ever abduct me? 🥺
@SP00KYF0X692 жыл бұрын
“Torture me, Mommy Xivu Aruth🤣”
@gabrielpineirogarcia20782 жыл бұрын
Eris does this to us quite a lot already
@demolition36122 жыл бұрын
Its a ghost and guardian frozen in time, to have an endless supply with traveler sourced light that is given to the ghosts
@Clancybabe2 жыл бұрын
I always wonder what exactly our player guardian would know, like in their universe. We as players get to learn about the universe and learn through the eyes of everyone else, but what would the destiny universe look like to our guardians? How scary would and strange would everything seem
@B-Scales2 жыл бұрын
Awesome work!
@thebekmanz2 жыл бұрын
Hmm... She was searching for Osiris and got snatched up. Considering that he has no light that Savathûn could have used at the time, it's likely she used guardians that were alone and not so noticed by the tower. Remember the song on Titan? It wouldn't be the first time.
@daansw3r9352 жыл бұрын
Byfs apparently forgotten about the 9 guardians captured (and turned into void light crystals) in Savathuns Song. Lol
@RealAgno2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back :)
@michelmartins45192 жыл бұрын
Those lore only supports even more that some of the lucent Hive that isn’t happy to kill guardians ghost will be the elo to a hive alliance if ever will be one. Savathun is not someone that bungie should make a ally. She’s a great character, I can see dark guardians allying with her, but not the vanguard nor us. She’s great as a third force in the dispute, but not as a convenience ally. People from the city wouldn’t aprove, lots os guardians too. I just can’t see Caitil stay on the alliance if we ever allow Savathun to be some kinda of ally to us, it would be super difficult already she accepting a Hive lieutenant to begin with.
@LowIntSpecimen2 жыл бұрын
Is this the guardian who leaked Witch Queen early?
@lordshaxx8872 жыл бұрын
I still dont trust glint
@heavenly_haori17252 жыл бұрын
*Guarduan down* “killed by Snu Snu”.
@ThatPicaro2 жыл бұрын
What a lucky man, wish that was me, taken by savy mommy
@vyrv67192 жыл бұрын
Mrs. Byf is the real hero here. Thanks helping bring our lore daddy back!
@FutureBoyEXE2 жыл бұрын
Okay, we all know that about 80% of the people who read the title of this video immediately had the p@rnhub jingle play in their head.
@killerofzombs1152 жыл бұрын
But can Moth Mommy deal with the Skrank Gang?
@TheGokki2 жыл бұрын
At least this guardian wasn't caught by Rhulk and get stuck listening to his ramblings on THE UPENDED
@lazyvoid7107 Жыл бұрын
🤨
@8lackyj1882 жыл бұрын
16:07 Where is the “porodosia orahstrah” from at the end of the video?
@kalibur41352 жыл бұрын
1. Its per audacia ad Astra 2. What do you mean its seconds later
@Davidtaylershow2 жыл бұрын
It's Latin, "Per Audacia Ad Astra" it means "To the stars through Boldness" Per = through, Audacia = boldness, Ad = to, and astra = stars.
@8lackyj1882 жыл бұрын
@@Davidtaylershow ahh thank you so much
@8lackyj1882 жыл бұрын
@@kalibur4135 my bad I was a second and half off 😐
@robert-zr1kx2 жыл бұрын
not sure if it has any merit but standing in the well itself slowly does damage over time
@GiancarloPaniccia2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, wife!
@RawbDawggin2 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist: The Light is keeping the Throne World alive AND being transferred to God Emperor of Mankind in the inmaterium! Praise the holy One of Terra!
@ainz90322 жыл бұрын
Will you cover the new Shayura lore found on the Aishas embrace scout?
@gabrielpineirogarcia20782 жыл бұрын
Byf reading this videos comments Will feel his light drain away by the thirsty guardians
@landonknott65202 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it doesn't have anything to do with Savathuns curse. I think Umina's was fed to the worm gods in order to help Savathun keep her throne world together. A healthy diet of light energy is what every growing worm god needs. Of course Savathun has grown in her power since gaining the light and as such maybe she is now using the light to stabilize the throne world. It could explain how we were able to beat her as she was concentrating on keeping her throne world together not the fight with us.
@michaelarreola42012 жыл бұрын
I don't think one guardian or thousands of guardians killed over the centuries is enough power to keep a throne world together. But the amount of light released when the Traveler's shell was cracked open during the Collapse? Aye, that would be enough I think to do it.
@AokiNamiYou2 жыл бұрын
There gonna be a fanfic 'bout this..m
@link1012002 жыл бұрын
I would enjoy if u made an Elden Ring Lore channel
@LordTonzilla2 жыл бұрын
T H E U P E N D E D
@D34DF41L2 жыл бұрын
Hey Byf, if you want help for the pronunciation of Umiña: oo-mean-nya. Tilde (~) in Spanish adds a 'y' sound to the letter n.