Destiny 2 Lore - The Story of "Fall of Osiris" Explained! Part 1

[@helghastslayah1367]

Better idea. Use the infinite forest to jump into past or future battles, 6-Fronts, Twilight Gap, the Great Disaster.

[@acgearsandarms1343]

Helghastslayah1 The Infinite Forest is a simulation. It can’t actually be used outside of Mercury in our reality.

[@helghastslayah1367]

ACGearsandArms Simulation of past or future?

[@acgearsandarms1343]

Helghastslayah1 Past, present, and future. All of it. But still tied to Mercury. The Infinite Forest might be a reality engine, but it’s tied to Mercury and only there.

[@shadowstar_darkpon3479]

I want a truly massive multiplayer Great Disaster. 50 guardians against a thousand or so Hive

[@acgearsandarms1343]

Helghastslayah1 The best thing you can get are simulations of those events.

[@begreat6896]

I’ve always wondered what the ghosts of controversial Guardians think about their Guardians. How does Sagira feel about Osiris pinning the deaths of millions if not billions on her Dad/ Mom? How does Efrideet’s ghost feel about refusing to fight the darkness? The Sunbreakers’ ghosts and their mercenary Guardians? The dark Guardians?

[@HisRoyalStignes]

Be Great see, as a ghost, picking your guardian is somewhat like tinder. If you don't match, you won't agree on certain points and therefore the ghost and guardian wouldn't be together anyway. However if they do, then they'll likely support their guardians ambitions. Although we all know that Sagitta picked Osiris for the booty

[@k9vendettathewolfofmordor529]

efrideet actually was at the city during the red war and killed a bunch f cabal 200 something with 199 bullets it in the description of one of the new exotic ships

[@vaughanscott4580]

I get what you saying and I feel it's sort of like partnerships of cops(Might not always agree but what they do they do together, mostly?). I feel in general atleast from the few relationships of ghost and guardian we've seen that in general the guardian is like the senior of the partners and the ghost (sometimes reluctantly) goes with what ever the guardian does. This is rather weird when it seems I ghost does all the talking for us 😅 . In terms of the cop partners metaphor that might also explain it in that both the ghost and the guardian are exposed to the same experiences and would likely discuss it among them selves thus generally coming to simular points of view on the topic. That's my view. Would be interesting to see a case where a ghost is strong willed enough to decide to leave their guardian.

[@LouLouLouie97]

You need to look into Osiris prophecies, especially null calamity 9 it has some vague details on what we could be fighting

[@LouLouLouie97]

“A shadow swept the yellow vex eyes”

[@azizsharaf9466]

Luis Martinez found the follower of Osiris Pls don’t kill me

[@florianwagner3230]

You are already dead. ;)

[@mwoodhouse2778]

Question did the cult of osiris make the Egyptian style Armour and weapons based on what the Osiris warlock looked like, or was it to get ready to fight the vex like intergalactic space police ?! Or was it because we die so many times in the trials to activate the towers on Mercury the cult based it of the dead aka mummys ?! Ive been fascinated by this

[@TheUnitGamersDK]

Saint-14's outfit is basically the Ikora vendor armor and the Saint-14 helmet. Awesome that it's obtainable in-game, wish I could say they same for Osiris' outfit.

[@trevordillon1921]

You can get the arms, not sure if you could back then however.

[@Gomo_]

Wait I just realized: I remember back in the "Full Story of Destiny" video that Byf made had a quote about Osiris and the Battle of The Six Fronts. It said something about Osiris seeming to be fighting at multiple places at once. Could he have been creating reflections of himself to fight?

[@dylan.bissendmylife]

That's an interesting theory, and I think it's highly likely. After seeing what his reflections did against Panoptes, I'm sure that's what happened.

[@ascentes]

Sagira did say that he created multiples of himself to explore the infinite realities that the vex would create. So I'd say yeah that he created reflections of himself to fight.

[@SNYPZHDG]

It was either him and his reflections or he was manipulating time to keep going back so he could be everywhere at once

[@Skreemish]

SNYPZ HDG That was my theory's also. I figured he was jumping back mere minutes in time and fighting at a different location.

[@Giacon]

remember the trailer for this dlc? how time stopped when osiris came in? that's probably how he was everywhere at once outside the infinite forest

[@mr_big_shot903]

I really hope they do more of these. Not just for Osiris but for others characters.

[@christiankassebaum708]

its incredible that after so long there is still so much lore to make videos on

[@warblackjack5565]

Many big games do, such as Fallout, Skyrim, Mass Effect, etc. I am more impressed by Destiny’s though. I feel like there is still so much untapped potential to pull from or touch upon.

[@TheWookiee89]

The connection between Osiris and the exo stranger are getting stronger. I'm starting to think that she comes to those who hold historical significance and show them a path that leads to a satisfactory outcome. A vex column that you can inspect on nessus that if your character is exo as my hunter is, your ghost informs you that the column shorted out once it realized your race and makes a question of would exo's and vex have a relation to one another.

[@hiroyukitokugawa1635]

🤔i think you have a point

[@TheGreatRecon]

I don't why but I would love a video on Rasputin because I feel that he isn't the last Warmind because after doing the adventure on Io I feel that Charlemagme is trying to communicate with us.

[@albonn17]

I feel a disturbing symmetry, wherein the followers of Osiris would speak for Osiris even without his approval as would the Speaker would speak for the Traveler that was in a form of stasis and does not communicate with him (as he later tells Ghaul). And how clever of Bungie to write off the Speaker as the Traveler awakes. Or did the Speaker survive and resumed a normal life now that the Traveler is awake and that he is no longer needed. Arrgghh! This is killing me!

[@Zerosixious]

Byf, I love you man. Even though I am taking a break from Destiny until ranked or meaningful changes happen, I will still eagerly watch your videos. You are my favorite content maker. This almost makes me want to keep playing, but every time I do, I am massively bored. Keep up the good fight. Destiny still remains one of the deepest lore filled games that the public will never see.

[@Purpletrident]

$20 is more than enough for story DLC that lasts more than 90 minutes. Bungie just needs to flesh out the entire campaign system. It should be far more than just get in, plug your ghost on a door, get out. There should be NPCs that fight along side you, dynamic battlefields similar to the Inverted Spire with the Cabal and Vex, and so on.

[@migmogaming]

PurpleTrident so true

[@Sublimeoo]

Except that warframe dlc has similar length, better quality dlcs that are free... in a free game

[@jessethesandman9419]

The base campaign didn't need to be bigger. It needed to me more detailed and deep.

[@Lewt_2B]

better than the story of the DLC, sadly

[@HerveMaas]

SirCreepsAlott But that is what Brother Vance is. Especially now we get more interaction with him. In D1 he was a much more shallow character. On the surface people can look very interesting but they are really idiots, like Brother Vance is. And it leaves us disappointed and pulling away from the facts. That is literaly what you are feeling right now. Learn from that feeling and enjoy it. Because even if you do not understand it, it is great storytelling.

[@pulsevzero]

Hervé Maas because what destiny needs right now is more one dimensional characters. Great storytelling btw.

[@LSB44446]

Hervé Maas What? He was nothing like he is now.

[@HerveMaas]

Logan Stewart no I know. Never got to know anyone that was completely different then you thought beforehand?

[@Shapes_Quality_Control]

SirCreepsAlott The last thing Destiny needs is more of the same. D1 was about coping with being thrust into a dystopian hellscape. The darker tone was justified then. D2 is about rediscovering a sense of hope and pushing forward. Is it a surprise that the tone in D2 has more of a sense of optimism?

[@HomeroSaint]

This has been one of my favorite byf videos

[@raysiris]

Seems like the speaker felt challenged by osiris but while osiris didnt agree with the speaker fully it seems he didn't want to overthrown him but more he felt the speaker was foolish not to listen to him and to understand that tho you may be speaker you are not a god you can be wrong at times

[@goldeneagle9575]

Whoever designed Osiris’ face in the comic should have been in charge of the design in game. CoO Osiris looks weird asf

[@saltedearth1879]

Cayde-6 will be the main story vendor in DLC 2!

[@goufr3540]

Does he sell character or character development and is it all locked behind a Failsafe Engram.

[@TheGreatRecon]

JK_Boy11 The expansion was leaked on Reddit btw

[@saltedearth1879]

The Average 12 Year Old That Isn't 12 At All was it? I just pieced together that The Red War story missions were organised by Zavala-and we also got character development for him. Then in DLC 1 we are guided by Ikora - as well as getting character development for her. It would make sense if Cayde was the story vendor for the next DLC and it would make sense for him getting development in a Rasputin/ClovisBray dlc.

[@mod4954]

hey thats a good idea, campain is zavala, dlc 1 is ikora, dlc 2 is cayde

[@RaptorRocka]

The Average 12 Year Old That Isn't 12 At All Link?

[@deladoescoolstuff]

That river analogy was explained beautifully

[@JaayCeez]

I'm loving this, just like the Overwatch web comics, more lore is always great. But I don't think it will be a 3 part story, if it is then I don't want it to be. Cause just with these characters alone the twilight gap should take a couple comics, The Queen of the Reef's part should take most if not all of one comic if indeed Osiris and Eris went to her with a proposition, and by doing this they open the doors to expand on the characters that we will see in this comics. So I honestly believe its going to be very well like the overwatch web comics, they will keep coming telling all these stories and hopefully this means they are aiming for a book of two of Destiny.

[@braedenkeane6363]

I have an idea- what if Ana bray was turned into an exo and became the exo stranger? That might be what dlc 2 is about

[@TempestKnight16]

yes please

[@andyp94]

Dank Memes she already died :'( a piece of in game dialog from lackshmi-2 states that she has fallen to the second death, the first being the initial on before her revival

[@TempestKnight16]

+Andy P since when have bungee cared about continuity

[@andyp94]

TempestKnight16 good point lol

[@ontos8534]

but she died

[@GamerBob123]

Assuming the light is good and the dark is bad is such a closed mindset

[@mattlegas5448]

Again, wonderful work. Thanks for creating these!

[@TheLastPredAlien]

Byf explaining the science behind diverging timelines made me realize: He could have a bright future as a college professor, and quite a popular one at that! I took a 3D animation class taught by a British developer from Sony, and his voice has a similar effect to Byf's: it draws you in, keeps you awake, and makes you want to hear more.

[@dylchap1029]

It was an awesome experience to get more story out of a webcomic. I hope to see more soon

[@jamalspoon2705]

Dylan C i agree

[@DJMNYCE]

Absolutely love your lore videos. Keep up the good work.

[@brennenjames347]

I loved it. The comic is what we needed. Cant wait for part 2

[@Whispersofchaos28]

Here is a question. The radialarian fluid looks awfully similar to the (for lack of a better word) “traveler’s juice” when we go to places like Io or to the woods to unlock subclasses. Could the Vex be a race of synthetics that was “uplifted” by the traveler? Could the radialarian fluid be some form of “traveler juice” derivative? Could it be that we find a similar connection to the traveler with the cabal? Could it be that the traveler is attempting to “uplift” sentients throughout the cosmos because outside the influence of its light it has no tangible means of defense? I know these are irrelevant questions to the video but Osiris has a way of making one look at pieces of the puzzle differently.

[@Broseph_Sloan]

I hope this is a weekly or bi-weekly even a monthly thing with this comic or future comics

[@Multi-Guard]

Byf, thank you for existing.

[@vibecheck9424]

Most people will read this and think oh cool a new comic and then skim through it , not paying attention to any detail, while byf is sitting there analyzing this entire thing and understanding every detail of it, so he can explain it and help us understand it a lot more. This is why byf should be the new speaker. This is why bungie should hire him. #byfforspeaker

[@No_nameOG]

I would like to see more of the lore of the city. How was the average citizen affected by the Red War? Do all citizens support the vanguard? Does the city have its own city council? How is the city governed? Do guardians police the city, or is there a city police force? Why can't we go into the city? Is there a lore related reason, such as guardians being restricted to the Tower?

[@ledizzy2634]

Byf great video. Best one in a while, was great to listen to. The comic is a great move by Bungie, I hope we get plenty of them

[@mar_from_bk]

I enjoyed your reading of the comic looking toward more of our videos

[@kyleedwards6026]

Your name is most certainly my name is byf. Keep up the good work

[@timothybourbeaujr.9522]

Great story telling I didn't even need to read the comic you helped me understand it.

[@shawnjohn321]

Strong work. Appreciate the lore. Don’t know why i wasn’t subscribed till now🤦🏽‍♂️.

[@Rocky-io5vt]

I'm trying to write a book or something the time before our guardian was reborn. Watching videos and researching the lore like you've been doing is gonna be tough, but I hope I make something cool for destiny lore standards. Thanks for helping me, in a way, byf

[@xx_nexus_xx2805]

I hope they put more out, I really enjoyed reading it.

[@Mrbudu700]

Seeing you play Warlock amazes me :D I can never get to terms with the jumps.

[@ShantBros]

Love it!! I wish all of that would have been in the dlc as cutscenes and gameplay (OMG IMAGIN THAT :O) Great video byf!!

[@aidansilvia2663]

Hey byf, I’m not sure if you noticed this but if you go to io and read the lore on the bond sold by asher mir it gives some big details on what eris left to find out and the conversations Asher and eris decribed in the aot grimoir cards

[@m3tr0id86]

This is definitely one of the reasons why I always referred to you and myelin games as far as my best to lore enthusiasts and this one being case in point for you anyway. Plus the river metaphor it's something I would simplify as Multiverse Theory. While there is one version of a timeline there is always another and another, to where it ends up becoming infinite very quickly For instance there's always one version of a timeline and then as I mentioned becomes an infinite endless possibilities of other timelines where as you mentioned in this video the Vex are looking for a path where they win.

[@boldfacedbroom3374]

The art design is fantastic, and the story is enjoyable!

[@nschuller98]

The way bungie has transformed the speaker from this wise “preacher” that lead us using the light to a power hungry, lying, dictator has been really cool because we always just sort of trusted him without question

[@xvsniper1]

you should do a exotic weapon lore series again, like you did for ice breaker, ghallarhorn and the likes last game

[@FolkLaurr]

I hate how they keep making us wonder about the Exo Stranger.

[@johnkraspur8465]

CANT WAIT FOR DESTINY 3

[@goufr3540]

Just wait till Destiny: Guardian Ops 2, Destiny: Ghosts, Destiny: Skylanders Edition, Destiny Hero featuring Halo Soundtrack, and Destiny 20: Sound Design and Skybox Edition.

[@warblackjack5565]

Only 3 years off bud, but go ahead and wait.

[@dontpunchninjas2777]

Another amazing vid from byf

[@warblackjack5565]

You’re back! But, you missed the Saint 14 quest last week. Either way, it is good to see you alive. :)

[@spartacus24n74]

Hey Byf, got a few questions. Is there any indication that the vex have infected other solar systems beyond Sol? Or do the vex go where the hive go? Is Sol the primary focal point for the vex, or just a peripheral focus on their inexhaustible march towards the completion of the pattern? Has the dark future Osiris predicted already come to pass in those other galaxies? Would the cabal strategy of blowing up moons and planets (in already lost galaxies) be a more effective strategy against the planet machine minds, and destroying them would be similar to killing geth in Mass Effect (damaging their calculation processing power, so to speak)? Also, could places like the infinite forest or black garden or the vog be accessed from other locations in the galaxy, if vex exist in those locations? Just curious, really haven't seen much history of the vex outside of their origin with Crota and everything we see with their presence within Sol.

[@kameronhall5492]

I really enjoyed the comic and very excited for the next part

[@TheLastOmnitect]

Thank you for yet another great video, Byf! I very much enjoyed the comic, and I think that, when combined with the Expansion Story Missions, does an excellent job of humanizing the man/legend that is Osiris. As a Warlock-main and an avid lore scholar for the Destinyverse, I understand Osiris's all consuming thoughts on the fate of humanity. I will also admit that the Vex are likely the most concerning threat we've faced in-system so far (though I suspect that when those black pyramid ships arrive I might reassess that analysis). However I still feel as though Osiris is foolish/reckless in his pursuit of the threats he faced. I feel that his best interests would've been to speak with Guardians on the topic, to involve the Vanguard in this threat. I feel like he made the Vex his personal albatross to bear, and to me that feels dangerously egotistical. And clearly his unwillingness to cooperate with the other Guardians/convince them of the threat the city faced in the Vex has caused more harm than good. I feel he could've avoided this if he had sat down with the original Vanguard and the Speaker/Consensus on the matter, instead of dismissing them out of hand and assuming sole responsibility over the greatest threat facing humankind. At least that's my take. I still love the story, though. And I empathize far more with Osiris than I ever have, so if Bungie's objective was to make him empathetic, they've succeeded. Keep up the great work, my fellow Warlock. And thank you as always for the excellent lore vids.

[@stevedarunner5736]

Thanks for your videos. It fills quite a gap in the game and enriches the Destiny experience.

[@paulmathis4465]

This is just awesome I’m hoping that bungee gets great reviews for this comic because man! Could you imagine seeing a destiny anime!!! God please.

[@5ive713]

Hey Byf. You are great. You should be the narrator for Destiny's future expansions and storytelling.

[@lunardeathblade2570]

So I'm not sure if this is just inconsistencies from game to comic, but I noticed that on saint-14's armor in this comic, it has no spikes on the shoulders or forearms, while the one we see in game does have these spikes. So I'm wondering is this just an inconsistency in the comic, or perhaps saint-14 had multiple armor sets? Or did those spikes appear due to his battle with the vex, or something along those lines. I dunno, it's just something I noticed, and something that kinda bugged me

[@alanwake8937]

Anyone notice that Andal Brask (sorry if I misspelled his name) is wearing the exact same hunter outfit that Cayde wears in the game? I thought that was a cool way to show how Cayde sees his duty as the current Vanguard for the Hunters. He not only wears the cloak of his dead friend, but the whole outfit. On another note, the actions of the Speaker are, as you said "very interesting," though I am hesitant to call him power-hungry. I think he made a mistake that is tragically common among rulers who live in times of desperation. He saw Osiris' 'prophesies' as a threat to the well-being of the people, at a time when humanity already had (and still has) more than it's fair share of enemies hellbent on its annihilation. That said, neither party was blameless, the Speaker was acting like a dictator, but Osiris' neglect of his duties and his underestimation of the Cult led to the City nearly destroying itself. If humanity is to survive, it must be weary of both future AND present dangers.

[@a55krkgaming43]

I criticize Bungie a lot but I have to say that this first part of the comics was done really well. I really enjoyed reading it. Thanks for the video Byf

[@tomaszkozibroda1679]

Imagine a milestone called osiris's past were u go into the infinte forest as osiris and go into the past and see how he got exiled that would add so much more content and lore

[@wilhelmnetsch-herr9366]

Hi byf! I just wanted to say i found something interesting in one of the lost sectors on Io. Its in the rupture and its called aphix conduit. Its in a little room to the left when you first see the vex. In that room there is a dead goblin next to an electrified wall. It seems like it would be a scannable but its not. Thanks for looking this over and i hope the instructions to get to the room. See ya

[@patrikhjorth3291]

I have said it before, and I'll say it again: Bungie aren't finished with the Exo Stranger, no matter what they state publicly.

[@ThatGuyYouveKnown]

My man was cooking

[@EyeBBangin]

Hey Byf, just noticed something I thought i'd share. Maybe its just bad lighting in preview, but is the dent gone from saint's helm now??

[@The_WARDen1591]

was there ever a part two to this?

[@vaughanscott4580]

Not sure if this was asked (and answered) already but in the video talking about the death of the speaker we hear our ghost say something along the lines of "he wasn't the first speaker..." but here at the forming of the consensus the speaker we know(The own that called Saint 14 son) is the speaker does that mean all other speakers were before the formation of the consensus?

[@Subsistence_Sasquatch]

Have you made a video about Calus' "targets" yet? The one mentioned in the booklet provided with the special edition preorder? • Shayotet, The Emperor's Protector • Otzot, Psion Savant • Moli Imoli, The Everjoy • Umun'arath, Primus of All Legions • Iska'al of Fantor • Caiatl, Princess-Imperial, Calus' daughter • The Consul (Ghaul killed him in the story) • Ghaul, The Dominus (and now The Dominated) Are they already dead? Do you think they come to part of a story or Raid in, presumably, Destiny 3? Is Calus giving us these trials to test our strength before sending us to kill these "traitors"?

[@AttisSoul]

This was a great read i look forward to the next chapter.

[@tom7472]

Can you please go to the aphix conduit lost sector on IO and possibly make a video on your thoughts on the “map” in the secret room in the middle of the portal near the boss and the small room just as you walk in on the left with the dead vex and electric wall. Would be v interesting to hear your thoughts on it as I have no idea.

[@sterben1066]

Anyone getting a Germany vibe from the Speaker when he said burn the books ??

[@k9vendettathewolfofmordor529]

thing is the speaker was the only reason why the city exists but power got to his head

[@sterben1066]

Sounds just like hitler before he went crazy too @k9vendetta. But oh well hope we have someone who can ACTUALLY speak to the glowing sphere in the sky if there is another one. (or just an honest one)

[@pistoletta4941]

As always you did an awesome job , i always look forward to your videos and being a big fan of destiny ever since day one(dont judge me) you have made my life allot easier , i would have never understand the lore better on my own. Overall i think the kings fall has been the best dlc and the taken along with the hive fascinate me the most , thats why i have to ask when will the books of sorrow part four be released? I love your and your teams work .

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

Charming little free comic, it was nice to see a young Saladin and the predecessor of Cayde-6 Also intresting choice as Saint-14 canonical armor, a bit chronological goofy, but that's pr I imagine.

[@loccaleus1]

thanks Byf that was Dope af

[@Real.Politik]

Love your story content ❤️

[@haiydenerickson8379]

Hey so I was playing the game while listening to this and I came across something strange on Nessus. When in the tangle, just north of the Virgo conduit, I found a scannable object in a tree. The ghost said it was connected to something on the far side of the sun. I don’t know if you’ve seen this or have any idea what it could be but I thought it was really strange and it could lead to something possibly really cool.

[@Onry_Old_Lady]

Merry Christmas 🌲

[@nuKeMCbobBer]

I think Bungie should make a webcomic about Shin Malphur. I know we have the whole story in the grimoire, but I think it would be cool to see a comic version of this. And it could be interesting where his whereabouts are during the red war

[@-whiskey-4134]

Are there any other characters aside from the Exo Stranger and Sagira that refer to our ghosts as little light? I’ve fallen behind on lore lately, but like is there any connection there?

[@vampwriter]

"Cayde may act like an irresponsible idiot when he's outside the Tower-- --And when he's here in the Tower, too, come to think of it--" *dies laughing*:))

[@EAStreetWear1980]

Quick question not pertaining to the video on the adventure the invitation from the emperor when you get into the lair to find the information about the cabal getting the planet for consumption what is that weapon specification in the middle of the layer

[@afaria3]

I have question lord byf how is a guardian chosen and how do they know what faction they belong to if you could please make a video about it.

[@itsyaboileroy6145]

Hey Byf big fan here! Recently I was trying to collect some stuff for the dawning on Nessus when I came across a conflux near The Fissure. I investigated it and the ghost says something about it messing up when coming in contact with my exo's body. Ghost then says something about the Vex and Exo's being connected somehow. What are your thoughts?

[@architectmind3662]

Ty byf I needed an explanation, mainly cause my brain was stuck on the part where ikora hugs osiris, still confused as to why it was? Why did it happen?

[@azizsharaf9466]

GIVE ME A BOOK ALREADY

[@BloodhawkProductions]

Hey Byf! I'm new to Destiny, I started the day D2 came out on PC. One of my good friends recommended to check out your channel. I've been hooked since. I'm curious why we see Osiris's Ghost and our Ghost in game, but we never see any other vanguard's ghost, Zavala, cayde6, etc... why don't we see their ghosts? Great work on this video, but leads to even more questions.

[@oddly-coloredbear]

Osiris and saint-14 became my favorite characters in destiny2.

[@Gameske]

The exo strangers two lines being spoken in my opinion cannot be mear coincidence.

[@jamesbridges6993]

Good video BYF do you think that maybe bungie would make a movie about Osiris, and saint 14 and the battle of the six fronts?

[@TheHighCree]

I love this comic. I hope there's some sort of mention about sagurias future. I'm of the belief that the Exo Stranger is her, in a future where Osiris was defeated or not exiled (but forced to abandon his research) and the Vex were on their way to securing victory. until WE were awakened, if our characters are this important to the story, it would make sense that She'd use Osiris' tech to travel back to times we overcame the Vex, started interfering their quest for galactic domination. I wonder if every one understands that, ours enemies are forever linked to the legendary figures that had come up throughout the game. Toland is was obsessed with The Hive and their Throne Worlds. Saint-14, went after the Fallen and headbutted the shit out of a Kell, killing it. Osiris latched on to the Vex (which in my opinion, is probably our 2nd greatest threat) and began exploring their simulations to find out a way to defeat them, at the cost of his Rep and Title. Cabal were mostly a Speaker problem, he was "our Leader" that made him a target for another empire (The Cabal) an Empire which is led by a thing that wants us to join him in fighting the true enemy? (Game Show Raid). All that leaves is the Darkness. We've seen and heard so many stories about this sweeping dark force that silenced an entire Solar System but not once have we actually seen anything definitive about their existence. Im hoping the Comics and the next expansion actually answer some of these questions. I want to know why Saint-14 is floating in what seems like a tomb (like the Vex seen him as a worthy opponent and decided to lay him to rest so to speak. I want to know what became of Toland. So many answers that Bungie has taken a long time to start revealing to us. I cant Wait, and keep up the great work Byf, I always reference you and your breakdowns when talking lore with my friends. have a Happy Holidays man. hope the new year treats you good.

[@account4345]

The Speaker was a dictator of sorts, with Saint 14 his mindless brute, they stood for control, safety and cautiousness, Osiris saw value in free thought, criticism, study and understanding and saw the bigger picture when nobody else did, I’d definitely be part of the Osiris cult.

[@kagi7194]

Guardian: Hey have you seen Osi- Brother Vance 4 miles away: *creams pants*

[@fnggaming89]

Finished all of the forged weapons today,got sagira's ghost shell & an emblem.

[@geezus6315]

i think you'll find the lore tab for the saint 14 helm very interesting

[@oghostbear801]

Could it be possible that sagira is the exo stranger? Since the exo stranger can teleport like our ghosts and so far has had a couple of comments leading to some sort of relationship to Osiris

[@travishuffman6203]

Hey I have a quick question I hope this reaches you! This may seem silly, but does Callus know about Oryx and his 2 sisters?

[@Starwarp1]

Honestly, I want to point to something Act Man stated in his review of Halo 5's campaign, where he basically said that with things like Halo and Destiny, in order to gain any understanding of what's going on, you have to do your homework (i.e. reading the books or grimoire). I personally believe external lore like this works best as sort of a side-dish to the main course which is the game itself (if you grasp my metaphor). Ultimately, I just don't want it to continue being that if you want to understand what's going on, you have to look up a book or comic instead of the game itself telling a detailed and engaging story. That said, it's still a pretty good comic, and I'm interested to see where it goes.

[@tjmcfadden5137]

Nice thanks Byf

[@jeremycox9194]

Is it possible that Osiris and the exo-stranger are one in the same? They both use some of the same key phrases in dialogue. ‘Little light’ ‘my path is my own’. Could Osiris in his research through the Infinite Forrest seen how important our guardian was for the future of mankind that he popped in (in disguise as the exo stranger) to lend us a hand when it was needed? Hence why the stranger ‘didn’t have time to explain’ ??

[@LSB44446]

Graviton Forfeit is a shit exotic but has one of the coolest lore tabs in this game.

[@jamalspoon2705]

Logan Stewart i agree

[@dxrtbvgtattoo]

I gave up on destiny. But I can’t give up on the lore, and I thank you for that.

[@bonetower]

This comic also highlights the damage the 'Speaker' did to the city and the tower, the Vanguard don't know how to find their own asses, the factions are trying to consolidate what they can under their respective banners, the Drifter moved in. Honestly its a mess, but its a NEEDED one, i never really trusted the speaker in D1 just due to the amount of information he chose not to give us, this pretty much shows he was an old man wanting everyone around him to protect him and what he thought.