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Destiny 2 | Which Bow is the best?

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Zanomics Gaming

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@xerxes2568
@xerxes2568 Жыл бұрын
Wish ender is immensely slept on. Probably one of the best exotic primaries for end game content
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I agree. I like the raw damage it outputs but I'm not a fan of the draw time. I only included bows that are easily accessible for new players. The bows in this video are really easy to get.
@brackett40
@brackett40 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a bow guy whatsoever. But wishender carries me in those legendary lost sectors.
@BeanBoy20
@BeanBoy20 Жыл бұрын
For real. I personally think it's better than arbalest.
@widsof7862
@widsof7862 Жыл бұрын
i use it a lot now in high end content as the shield break is fantastic with no ammo issues, incredible bow
@FreshForReal
@FreshForReal Жыл бұрын
Agreed. There is almost no engagement Wish isnt good or great for.
@lunarstrikeok9756
@lunarstrikeok9756 Жыл бұрын
man. exotic bows hit different, every single flavor has incredible use and synergy 😭
@NihilisticTings
@NihilisticTings Жыл бұрын
I think that was the wrong emoji lol
@lunarstrikeok9756
@lunarstrikeok9756 Жыл бұрын
@@NihilisticTings in comparison to the lackluster exotic autos and pulses, the crying emoji is warranted lmao
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Bows that tie with our subclasses are amazing. Can't wait for a possible strand bow.
@SensitivelyStoic
@SensitivelyStoic Жыл бұрын
​@@zanomicsgaming that would be super cool. Maybe they would unravel after a certain amount of precision hits? That's be pretty sweet
@dirtydan4492
@dirtydan4492 Жыл бұрын
I was struggling in a Legend Lost Sector, so I tried out Ticuu's for the first time in...years, probably. And...wow. I was blown away at how good it was. It got me the flawless completion I needed pretty handily.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
The main problem with Ticuu's for me is that it doesn't synergize with Solar 3.0. It would be really nice if it applied scorch.
@oryxfirstnavigator4795
@oryxfirstnavigator4795 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming or ignited targets, I mean, that's it's whole thing, it makes targets explode. It would be so much better if it applied scorch, and the ADS shot caused them to ignite and spread scorch to nearby targets upon death
@miloa2493
@miloa2493 Жыл бұрын
Instead of using oathkeepers, there's a trick you can do with bows to constantly instantly re-draw them and always have that perfect draw. You press reload to cancel the draw and then immediately hold fire.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Learn something new everyday! Thanks for sharing and watching.
@widsof7862
@widsof7862 Жыл бұрын
i sometimes quickswap back and forth when my shot feels off, i have no idea why, but it helps kind of like when you see youtubers shake their aim when they are a bit off to almost reset their feel for it
@infernalwolf3102
@infernalwolf3102 Жыл бұрын
​@@zanomicsgaming now knowing you didn't know how to do that, I can't really validate your opinions
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
@Infernalwolf310 I understand that. Never really had a problem with a perfect draw. I normally main Titan. Point of Stag was always my main go-to legendary. Loved that bow
@R3st1nPi3ces
@R3st1nPi3ces Жыл бұрын
The nice thing about Trinity is that with PvE you only really need the first precision kill to start the arc spread. After that you can literally shoot at the ground next to ads to cause damage and it recharges if you get a kill.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
It is enjoyable to watch! Any arc kill for that matter will start the chain.
@oryxfirstnavigator4795
@oryxfirstnavigator4795 Жыл бұрын
Was about to say with the catalyst any arc kill will proc lighting rod, even an arc grenade or melee ability
@thesavagegummybear7341
@thesavagegummybear7341 Жыл бұрын
With the catalyst it’s by far my favourite bow
@semajnosnhoj6351
@semajnosnhoj6351 Жыл бұрын
What about wish ender? That thing shreds shields And its really good in both pvp and pve
@KeyClavis
@KeyClavis Жыл бұрын
Yes! I have over 83K kills on mine (pve only). It's nice going up against hydras becasue you can just ignore those rotating shields. Since it was the only weapon that seemed to hit decently at the beginning of Lightfall, it's become my main weapon.
@digiorno1142
@digiorno1142 Жыл бұрын
@@KeyClavis 83k…..
@Baraka_Obama_
@Baraka_Obama_ Жыл бұрын
​@@KeyClavis Dam bro putting in work
@minilabyrinth
@minilabyrinth Жыл бұрын
@@KeyClavis We found him, the actual Wish Ender.
@TheOneTrueShooter
@TheOneTrueShooter Жыл бұрын
@@minilabyrinth bro I just saw someone in my clan with 114000 on the osteo striga
@donny4405
@donny4405 Жыл бұрын
Ticcus imo is the best bow. It can do some massive damage. I got a 250k explosion on a boss a few times
@gavo7911
@gavo7911 Жыл бұрын
Hierarchy of Needs is SO slept on, it carried me through the Legendary Lightfall campaign. The damage you get with the rings and the increased draw speed from the catalyst just lets you tear through enemies from a distance.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I'm going to do a part 2. I'll include the two exotics I left off, LB and a few of my favorite legendary bows. Though it will take me some time with work and whatnot. I used Contraverse Hold and Osteo most of the time through Legend.
@calvinwilson3617
@calvinwilson3617 Жыл бұрын
Nothing will beat le monarch being able to poison hydras through their shield (initial hit doesnt land but dot will proc)
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I tried to tell them lol
@TransDrummer1312
@TransDrummer1312 Жыл бұрын
I was ballin with Ticuu’s Detonation in the last Iron Banner week. Was rolling Solar Golden Gun Hunter, with Lucky Pants for my Seraph Officer’s Revolver instead of Oathkeepers.
@Darkandmenacing
@Darkandmenacing Жыл бұрын
I forgot to point out. You said a perfect draw hit I any guardian would get a kill in pvp. It's got to be a precision hit after marking them. You can still get a explosion, it just won't do enough to kill. With verglas curve, if you kill a orange bar or "tougher" enemy with it, you get two hail barrage arrows. And you can kinda chain hail barrages if you're also shattering frozen enemies with the bow. Admittedly, this can be inconsistent with how many arrows you get back. I have gotten barrage x4 quite a bit from shattering with one arrow. My go-to exotic bow in both pvp and pve is wish-ender. It's not an add-clear monster, but it's an infinite ammo aggressive frame sniper with intrinsic anti-barrier in pve. In pvp, true-sight can secure you and your team mates some team shots that you know leave the enemy going, "wtf just killed me that quick?" And "I was nearly full health! Wtf?" As a bonus, overshields are just pretty glow effects. Kinetic dexterity and judgement of kelgorath with swap mag. A lightning fast and lethal swap shot without the need for exotics like ophidians. I'm a pvp player and "the bow guy" in my friend group. 😅
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment. And yes you are correct. I've only ever hit crits with it. Never any body shots, though I hardly use this in pvp. I will definitely clarify in the future. I am a fairly new channel. Lol.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I didn't include Wishender due to it being tied to a Dungeon, and new players may find it difficult to obtain. It's hard for me to use wishender, witherhoard wrecks, and goes through most shields. I'm surprised it hasn't been nerfed yet.
@Darkandmenacing
@Darkandmenacing Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming I'm sure you know, but wish ender does extra damage to anything someone shoots with witherhoard due to its anti-taken fletching. If you are a bow guy, get wish ender. I got it back in forsaken and it's the one weapon that never leaves my inventory. It shines best in hard content. Grandmaster nightfall, raids, legendary lost sectors... Where most primary ammo weapons feel like you're giving even the weakest of enemies a gentle caress, this thing slaps.
@syd6654
@syd6654 Жыл бұрын
I randomly got recommended this video and decided why not. Love the breakdown of the usage of each exotic bow in pve and pvp!
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@astralluv2051
@astralluv2051 Жыл бұрын
Solid video covering the Elemental Exotic Bows! First video I've seen from you. Some notable things about each Bow: - Trinity Ghoul has a really cool synergy inside of PVP with Cascade Point and the 3 arrow hit. Hitting a 3 arrow headshot turns your Cascade Point weapon into what is essentially the Tarrabah empowered mode. Incredibly fun combo and the lightning storm is a huge power moment if you finish someone off with Arc Damage - Ticcu's hip-fired arrows can clear most of the annoying hazards in one shot, like if there's a modifier in PVE for Fallen electric mine. Quite fun for the current Glassway Nightfall + Solar Surge - Le Monarche poison seemingly applies Vorpal Round procs on the poison DoT effect. Haven't done any rigorous testing around the Vorpal + Poison interaction, but it's seemingly significant especially when you need to damage through chunkier targets which don't have an easy precision spot. Void Hunter and ESPECIALLY Gyrfalcon's Void Hunter abuse it the most with Devour, Invisibility Refresh, your Catalyst Health Recovery, Vorpal Rounds from the Void synergy, etc
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I was not aware of the synergy with cascade point, but Le Monarque is still my preferred bow for pvp. Ticuu is in a tough spot due to it not synergizing with solar 3.0. I don't believe they can make it synergize with solar 3.0. This bow would rise to the top, and it would be broken with the amount of ignitions this bow would create. I think they developed this bow before Bungie ever thought of creating 3.0 subclasses.
@wickermind6668
@wickermind6668 8 ай бұрын
Wishender, Leviathan's Breath, Heirarchy of Needs: "Guess I'll die"
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming 8 ай бұрын
This video only included bows that were easily accessible for new players, as stated in the video, and it is also in the description. I plan to do another video once the new exotic bow comes out.
@antiiks2485
@antiiks2485 Жыл бұрын
Hoping the strand bow bounces off of opponents like the hunter knife or after getting multi kills creates grapple points idk just hoping it’s cool
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I can't WAIT for a Strand Bow!!
@Feiwinter-with-an-i
@Feiwinter-with-an-i Жыл бұрын
Why does everyone forget about hierarchy of needs
@vendexa5840
@vendexa5840 Жыл бұрын
if you know how to use it its top 3 bows easily
@Mad-Slick
@Mad-Slick Жыл бұрын
Lemon Arc is already my favourite bow and with easy access to Volatile Rounds this season it isn't even close. I think the only thing holding Verglas back is the fact that Stasis is probably the weakest subclass in the game. Stasis really needs some love. With some subclass buffs I could see Verglas become top tier. If only Stasis shards could give you Armour Charge. And hopefully Ticuu's gets some Solar synergy in the future.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Well, someone agrees with me. Thanks for watching!
@sudbuddiesexteriordetailin9843
@sudbuddiesexteriordetailin9843 Жыл бұрын
Veriglass Curve, just using hipfire, can clear ads SO fast. It's my fastest clear of Shuro Chi by far. It's really the ice explosions that clear, but every other kill is a frozen enemy that explodes. It's sick
@noahsg5550
@noahsg5550 Жыл бұрын
noticed this as well when grinding the catalyst, could easily get to 115-120 enemies killed cause it slaughtered those thralls so fast.
@widsof7862
@widsof7862 Жыл бұрын
the catalyst seems pretty much like archer’s tempo when freezing targets so it does make a difference
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I think it's bugged. It's not performing as it should be based on my testing.
@widsof7862
@widsof7862 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming i was using a stasis warlock build and what it did was on freezing from grenades, it sped up the draw time for me a lot. Before the catalyst i found it really slow to use but after it did make it much better. i’d say this is really an ad clear bow more of a Ticcu’s than the others, although i’m not using it much after as le monarque and wishender just do so much more for me.
@dashieofthebeards2613
@dashieofthebeards2613 Жыл бұрын
My favorite bows are heirarchy of needs and leviathans breath, I wish you had covered them
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I can. Lol. I was trying to make a video centered around ease of use and accessibility for new players.
@ThriveOnEgo_
@ThriveOnEgo_ Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming leviathans breath is at the kiosk too though
@sesshomaru618
@sesshomaru618 Жыл бұрын
0:56 seconds into the video, Trinity Ghoul! Sike na I love all the bows especially Le Monarque. BUT TRINITY IS AN ABSOLUTE MONSTER.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Very Easy to use as well!
@Zhiroc
@Zhiroc Жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I used either Ticuu's or Trinity Ghoul, as my add-clearing needs have been largely fulfilled by abilities, but when I did use them, I preferred Ticuu's over Trinity. While Trinity has the edge in red-bar clearing, particularly panic-red bar clearing ;-), I found that its damage against anything above that--even orange bars, left a little to be desired. I was doing a lot less difficult content back then, so I have to wonder how it does in today's content in comparison. (But it sounds like this might not be an issue when the difficulty changes go in shortly.) Ticuu's I found to be a more balanced-use bow, dealing good damage against majors. The seeking arrows is also great at plinking lots of red bars from WAY out. And frankly, while both could benefit from Light 3.0 synergies, the lack of that isn't a deal-breaker.
@sherlocksvp5537
@sherlocksvp5537 Жыл бұрын
Verglas can refresh frozen shots by breaking crystals. It works like trinity ghoul. Any kill caused with the crystal counts as the weapon kill and refreshes them.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Depends on how the crystal is shattered. If you shatterdive, it counts as a grenade kill and vice versa for the melee.
@sherlocksvp5537
@sherlocksvp5537 Жыл бұрын
@Zanomics Gaming yeah but if you quick swap with a waveframe. It works great
@potato1341
@potato1341 Жыл бұрын
I want to say I think the worst one is probably Verglas and it's not even bad or mediocre, I gave it a shot earlier and it done so well, it's a real contender for a go-to stasis primary for almost any build I could think of. But DAMN the others are simply monstrous. Trinity Ghoul is the bane of adds, it's so good it's used by speedrunners who have to deal with trash enemies cause it's so easy and potent. Hierarchy of needs is one of, if not, the single strongest DPS primary in the game which is also amazing at add clear and given its range and safe nature, is great in any endgame content with dangerous enemies. Little needs to be said about ticuu's, 3 or 4 hip fire shots followed by one ADS is like Chinese New Year. Le Monarque has the intrinsic overload, the poison, the void synergy with things like Gyrfalcons, the AoE, it's just such a solid exotic. Wish-ender is taking Arbalest's job, for what it lacks in DPS, it makes up for in spades with infinite ammo and wallhacks, invaluable in highly lethal content, especially ones which disable radar. Leviathan's breath is with the most recent nerfs to LFRs and its own buffs, a raw damage monster once the catalyst is equipped. The worst thing about this weapon is the catalyst grind but once it's obtained, it will let you hit super high boss damage with ease. Bows are the most consistently strong exotic weapon choice in the game which is funny when this time last year, only 5 existed and of them, only 3 were used and now, all 7 are easily in the A or S tier for their respective purposes.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Amazing write-up! Thanks for watching! Some bows I didn't include due to the accessibility factor for new players. LB is heavy, so I didn't think to compare it with other primaries. I will have to remember that going forward. Verglas Curve works well with Warlock and the stasis turrets. I don't feel the same potential in other classes. I like Le Monarque as the all-around king in regards to Solo end-game content and slapping people in the crucible.
@potato1341
@potato1341 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming Le Monarque is such a funny bow, people hate it and it's unreal. Also it's not confirmed to my knowledge but there's a leak that says that oathkeepers might get a buff to increase bow damage if the shot is held for even longer so some of these might get even more powerful
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
@@potato1341 That would make people hate even more. Lol
@TrueNyxis
@TrueNyxis Жыл бұрын
Hundreds of thousands of kills on my Le Monarque kill tracker. By far my favorite and most used weapon in pve and pvp
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
It's definitely the best bow for me!
@kylecrosby3765
@kylecrosby3765 Жыл бұрын
Number one for me is still wish ender. Never heard of you before great vid
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I'll have more videos out in the days to come. Le Monarque is #1 for me. Wishender would be #2. I didn't include it in this list due to it not being as easily accessible for new players. These 4 bows can easily be bought at the kiosk or earned as a world drop or from season pass. Should have clarified in the video other than just posting that in the description.
@sooperninja9820
@sooperninja9820 Жыл бұрын
With verglass try shooting crystals at the ground and using the crystal explosion to kill ads. These kills refill the perk allowing for a chain of crystals
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
You can also gain stasis ability energy depending on how you break said crystals.
@SeuchenPflug
@SeuchenPflug Жыл бұрын
Nice video My personal ranking based on in how many aspects of PvE you can use those bows to their full potential: 1. Wishender, 2. LeMon. 3. Trinity G
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I didn't include wishender due to the fact that it's kinetic and anti-barrier Champs are a piece of cake this season.
@Mr-R.R.
@Mr-R.R. Жыл бұрын
​@@zanomicsgaming yeah it's really unstoppable + overload with their stupid regen that you have to ever worry about
@provaricus627
@provaricus627 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr-R.R. Unstoppables don’t regenerate health, they just have massive damage resistance until you stun them.
@Mr-R.R.
@Mr-R.R. Жыл бұрын
@@provaricus627 i know. hence why i said "+ overload with their stupid regen" yet i knew some people would mix it up.
@provaricus627
@provaricus627 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr-R.R. Typing it out like you did implied that you’re grouping them together and saying they both have health regen. If I could hear what you were saying it’d be a different story.
@UniqueTechnique29
@UniqueTechnique29 Жыл бұрын
Wishender is the best exotic bow in D2. It also fills the primary slot but hits much more like a special. Best barrier champion weapon and the ability to bypass any enemy shield in the game. If you haven’t tried it recently take it into a master currently.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
It's a good bow and I love the raw damage. I'm just not big on the draw time. The dungeon bows were not included in this video due to them not being easily accessible for new players. The bows in this list are easy to get.
@leivendil8824
@leivendil8824 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming I'm struggling to unlock Trinity ghoul. It's a random exotic engram drop, which is only accessible from Xur and requires luck.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
@@leivendil8824 that sucks. Xur was selling it a couple of weeks ago. The best thing about Trinity Ghoul is the fact that any arc kill will trigger the lightening as long as you have the catalyst
@leivendil8824
@leivendil8824 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming ye, I was going to try a combo of Trinity+Liar's handshake on my arc hunter. It should be fun since Liars can handle tougher enemies and Trinity will take care of trash.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
@@leivendil8824 solid build for sure! I hope you get it!
@ultracookienite5857
@ultracookienite5857 Жыл бұрын
ticcus is so satisfying
@dpw0499
@dpw0499 Жыл бұрын
cap
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Ticuu is in a tough spot due to it not synergizing with Solar 3.0.
@phaaze3812
@phaaze3812 Жыл бұрын
Cause-al-ity not Casual-ity for the perk on Ticuu's.
@KarmaKai
@KarmaKai Жыл бұрын
so wish ender has for years been slept on, even after the last upgrade to having an intrinsic barrier stunning function. bows are the only weapon type in the game that have champion functionality for each champion. we can’t forget about leviathan’s breath either.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I plan to do a part 2. I only included the bows that were the easiest to get for all players.
@minilabyrinth
@minilabyrinth Жыл бұрын
The only thing I dislike about Verglas is how you unexpectedly block off your ENTIRE team with five stasis pillars a lot if you're not careful
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Imagine using this Bow with HoarFrostZ. I feel like your teammates would get annoyed with you. This bow has a learning curve for sure.
@gregbrown3082
@gregbrown3082 Жыл бұрын
Wish Ender all day, unless the gm is overload heavy, then Lemon Arc! You owe it to yourself to see how brutally efficient a fireteam with 3x wish enders is.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
It's a shame wishender is bugged and is not penetrating shields properly
@MrBronco76
@MrBronco76 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I agree with a lot of what you said. I think le monarque and wishender are the two best bows. I would also like to hear your take on best legendary bows too.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I plan to do a part 2 video once I finish the other videos that I originally had planned.
@TheFawse
@TheFawse Жыл бұрын
Wish-Ender. Especially now that it can get an extra 25% damage by matching your subclass to the surge
@thunderchief7256
@thunderchief7256 Жыл бұрын
Leviathan’s Breath: Am I a joke to you?
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I'll do a part 2 lol
@thunderchief7256
@thunderchief7256 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming In all seriousness, you make great content, enjoy a subscription.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
@Thunder Chief thank for watching! I try! Any suggestions then please let me know. 🙏
@Jeficus
@Jeficus Жыл бұрын
Man I love all of the exotic bows with the exception of Verglas, which is a shame because Stasis is one of my favorite subclasses to use. Honestly there's more synergy with being able to use Wishender's + Whisper of Rending. BIG DAMAGE.
@maxthejew
@maxthejew Жыл бұрын
1. As somebody who uses bows in every activity. You can't beat the low level content add clearing of Trinity. (160k kills on kill tracker for my trin) Basic strikes, heroic nightfalls even. gambit. Paired with a fracthyst with trench barrel? you have red bar/yellow bar (some decent boss damage too) clearing. Trin for PVP... I don't want to mention too much on youtube about this but in momentum control trin is a beast. 2. Veriglass. "The only thing I see wrong with it" nah the thing that's the biggest drawback...it's a lightweight. The reason you have issues in pvp with it is because it's a lightweight. Lightweights are kind of trash. Faster draw time, sure. Less damage (about 10% less damage. It's actually 9 and a fraction (9.92582%)) for kinetics. (haven't done damage testing for energies yet) It's just not great overall for pvp. PVE. You have the breaking of the stasis crystals that helps increase it's dps. a 40% buff to redbars on account of being an exotic. Freezing of enemies. Outside of that, it's kind of mid. 3. Le Monarque, it's not that special in pvp. PVE it has the added benefit of being one of the best overload... anything in the game. It's an overload beast. But. PVP. It's exactly on par with every precision frame bow. (you can substitute lemon for any precision bow and get the same 2 tap. Actually I really prefer using biting winds with swash over lemon. (potential for 1 taps). But jotunn nerfs made me rethink loadouts. That and I love the hate mail when using lemon versus people who don't understand that all precision frames 2 tap. exotic or not. The poison is a minor aggravator but the damage is minimal. unrelenting is actually pretty good from the catalyst but Lemon gets unnecessary hate. Wishender I believe gets calculated as a lightweight in pvp with a heavy heavy draw time. They nerfed it a long time ago because it was 1 tapping in rifts and it has wall hacks. wishender is kind of terrible in pvp because of those drawbacks now. PVE wishender is my go to for master content. (unless there's overloads) in PVE it hits like a precision bow but hits 3+ times (+ because it's bugged in certain content like avalon where it will hit for like 9 times). Wishender actually does about close range shotgun damage. the intrinsic anti-barrier makes it even better.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I like the Verglas Curves utility. Wishender feels like a lightweight, but hits like a truck in pvp now. Le Monarque has that satisfying feel when snagging crits for me, and the poison damage makes people run. Thorn faces a similar hate because the poison affects most opponents' play style. I plan to do an in-depth part 2 video. This video was designed for all players in mind, since these bows are so easy to get.
@maxthejew
@maxthejew Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming What I mean is wish ender hits 1 for 1 like a lightweight damage in pvp (I haven't personally done pvp test numbers because the setup required and I don't have a second account yet. But have seen other people state this) -wise but without the added benefit of lightweight draw time. ( you can't go by impact on stats anymore. Actually impact is practically useless metric. For an example, take riskrunner versus stochastic variable to any yellowbar. Both are the same class, on paper (impact) riskrunner does more damage. In reality riskrunner does about 10% less damage. The poison for lemon is not the same as the poison damage from thorn/weapons of sorrow. Actually I have been in love with necrotics since their release. A lot of streamers are now waking up to how much they actually do overall in pve. The poison from thorn is weapons of sorrow poison. What strand was actually supposed to do before they scrapped poison ("too similar to solar burn") Though, I can still see them creating a "sorrow" subclass. Would make me happy lol. Lemon poison does not increase with time. Weapons of sorrow do. Every subsequent tick does progressively more damage than the last with weapons of sorrow. I actually used to have a 1 tap melee build warlock before the void 3.0 warlock nerf (was an absolute melee nerf) Nova warp void lock (mid branch) had the advantage of 2 bursts of damage when you hit. The damage caused would leave you with a tiny bit of health. Necrotics would do the rest. That being said, Thorn also somewhat has the same issue in pve and pvp. It's calculated the same as any adaptive 140 handcannon. Just with a little bit of poison damage and the reload perks from getting the kill. PVE it has a 40% exotic damage buff with a slight difference in damage due to poison effects. (thorn was one of the exotics I used as a test bench when I started dps testing in pve) The amount of tick damage from necrotics is different compared to thorn. meaning in PVP, thorn is also kind of mid. I'd much rather somebody use Ace and get a damage buff and 2 taps from it's exotic perk, or hawkmoon for it's 1 tap capability after headshots. Sunshot for the added burning and the added 10 rpm and explosions. Thorn just underperforms in most activities (pve and pvp) Osteo outperforms thorn in everyway during pve Necrotics overall damage from 1 melee is 44k poison + melee damage (strand melee is actually really OP for warlocks and is hitting for about 28k damage so you can get a 72k warlock melee hit (actually doing damage tests on the ogre boss from grasp from and with unraveling, 1 strand melee does 77k damage with necrotics. Meaning full 3 charges, If you time it correctly, you can get 231k damage each phase from melees alone. (unfortunately with necrotics you reset poison with each hit so if you throw 3 in quick succession and don't wait it out, you lose out on dps)
@blakec8549
@blakec8549 Жыл бұрын
Ticuus isn't terrible on 6v6. Let's you spot all the enemies without much effort. And even if you aren't getting the kills hih trigger lots of explosions. Sometimes sa couple hip fires will finish people off. And because the first shot doesn't break the shield they usually chase you.
@OriginalSystem37
@OriginalSystem37 Жыл бұрын
Me when no hierarchy of needs
@Etechtroniks
@Etechtroniks Жыл бұрын
Whaaat, veglas curve has super fast draw time and easily 2bursts guardians. Love that thing in crucible
@atheon-
@atheon- Жыл бұрын
short answer: yes long answer: depends on the build but the lemon bow has overload
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree! I try to take that into consideration and how hoops you have to jump through with each build. Lemon and Trinity are by far the easiest to use currently. This video was mainly for new players. I am working on a part 2 to include other bows and some legendaries. Thanks for watching!
@sulferphoenix
@sulferphoenix Жыл бұрын
If you get lightning rod up trinity ghoul can oneshot a guardian in pvp if you shoot him in the head and he is standing next to someone. The lightning will chain to his friend and then back to him killing him. Also ticuu's doesnt need a full draw for the hipfire to track. You can tap fire the hipfire and the full draw the ads shot to save time and lower the ttk.
@DeeboComing
@DeeboComing Жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, the best counter against a bow is a sniper. Bow players are notorious for being grounded and just walking around corners trying to land that crit. Less experienced bow users are food for good snipers.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I agree! It's fun blindsiding players with Le Monarque though!
@Suckmycaballs
@Suckmycaballs Жыл бұрын
Worth noting with T-ghoul, you don’t even need to be using an arc subclass, the damage it does is arc, so kills with the bow give lightning rod on your next shot, which gives you lightning again. Insanely good for ad clear and I have a decent amount of success with it in crucible, pairs best with arc surge x2 and overload bow.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Oh, definitely, but with an ARC subclass, it makes it S tier depending on the combo. The bow is very strong with Liars' handshake and Arc . Pair well with the Titan as well. Knockout procs it easily and just fire from the hip. I'll have a build, most likely next season. I'm waiting on some Arc artifact mods.
@Nyacinth
@Nyacinth Жыл бұрын
Ngl, I think with the recent exotic buff leaks, Oathkeeper might be good with Leviathan's Breath (IF it works with that bow)
@MASTERLinkYT96
@MASTERLinkYT96 Жыл бұрын
In pvp le monarque in pve the wishender hands down.
@lordtravin5487
@lordtravin5487 Жыл бұрын
I main a stasis warlock running ticcus constantly the turrets and iceflair bolts is a crowd control machine even in endgame content for me. Wishender does slap hard tho too
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I'm going to do a part 2. Going to try and make the video shorter if possible. I'll have to try that setup out.
@lordtravin5487
@lordtravin5487 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming I run osmiomancy with max discipline and lots of grenade uptime mods. I can get ya my fragments and aspects of ya want em
@yoinkinnbaggin8211
@yoinkinnbaggin8211 Жыл бұрын
Wish Ender is my favorite. Especially with Oathkeeper. Wall hacks and it hits hardest of all
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I plan to work on a part 2 and compare some of the other bows in the game. Currently I have other videos in the works, so it may be a couple of weeks. Stayed tuned for more!
@TheRockemsockm
@TheRockemsockm Жыл бұрын
Exotic bows are a hot topic said no one ever. They are in a decent place now after multiple buffs but no one needs primaries, especially exotic ones. The last two exotic bows aren't even better than Ticcu's. Curve is just a subpar bow with it's perk being a simple glacier grenade that bows are the worst at breaking. You are just wasting an exotic slot on a super headstone perk. Ticcu is still the best and most reliable bow in the game even without solar synergy. You can easily just tag with hipfire and clean up with a melee for the explosions. It definitely could use some Solar synergy but it wouldn't be more op than any other exotic as exotic primaries are way behind. Trinity Ghoul was unique but it was just replaced by Arc 3.0 in general. Jolt and voltshot do exactly what Trinity use too without an exotic slot. It just has no place outside of fun patrols. Le Monarque is my most used weapon and it's the second least useful exotic bow in PVE doing less AOE than all of them and only more single targets than Trinity. It has 1 use and it's to keep shields from regenerating when elites retreat. Le Monarque has one of the worst catalysts in the game and the innate overload is actually bugged. It is still a really fun weapon. Wish-Ender and Ticcu's are the best bows by a mile and it's not really close. Wish Ender does real damage now, and is perfect anti-barrier option. Hierachy of Needs has the potential to be good but in a 3.0 sandbox by the time you get rolling your teammates have cleared the entire screen. It is hard to recommend any weapon where you ask your teammates to slow down or hope they suck. It just can't keep up with Ticcu's and takes too long to set up. Leviathan's Breath is also one of the best heavies in the game now with great dps and ammo economy.
@reggielacey2235
@reggielacey2235 8 ай бұрын
trinity and ticuu are my favorite
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming 8 ай бұрын
I love Trinity. I'm interested into seeing how this new strand bow performs when it becomes available.
@zacward8806
@zacward8806 Жыл бұрын
Trinity ghoul is just nasty with a arc build
@plasticspoon60
@plasticspoon60 Жыл бұрын
As a bow main I can confirm Le Menarqe is a go to bow for pvp. Anytime im fragging the enemy team with a bow everyone on the enemy team yanks out the le menarqe. 😂
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
They hate it. Le Monarque just feels so good!
@plasticspoon60
@plasticspoon60 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming It feels good, and its broken. Get a headshot with the perk and it puts a guy into one tap status for a good 30 seconds atleast.
@althechicken9597
@althechicken9597 Жыл бұрын
It's the butterfly my guy 🦋
@Liqweed1337
@Liqweed1337 Жыл бұрын
easy answer: monarque, until somebody finds a meta combo with the new stasis bow
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Let's go!
@lawrencewang3327
@lawrencewang3327 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown, and I hate to be pedantic but it's cause ah litty no casualty arrows. Causality is a huge concept in the flavor/lore of destiny. Think wish dragons, the nine, that kinda thing
@INFM424
@INFM424 Жыл бұрын
Monarque, Wish-Ender, Ticuu, and Ghoul
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I wish Ticuu synergized with Solar 3.0
@brynyolfxd3010
@brynyolfxd3010 Жыл бұрын
Wishender is my goto for pvp and pve ... shreds shields and hits hard
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Hits like a truck!
@osaura562
@osaura562 Жыл бұрын
you missed a couple bows, make a part two if you can
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I only included Bows that were easily accessible for all players. I can do an in-depth breakdown of the popular Wishender and hierarchy of needs. I will also compare in pvp, pve, and the overall use case scenario. For now, I already have other content scheduled to publish and in the works. It will take me some time to get that video together. I'm not a full-time creator. I will have the video available as soon as I can, however, expect it to be within a timely manner. I'll try to get working on it today after I get off. Thanks for watching! Let me know what else you would like to see. 🫡
@roxas8073
@roxas8073 Жыл бұрын
I hope they make a strand bow
@novanope7821
@novanope7821 Жыл бұрын
You forgot Hierarchy of Needs?
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I only included bows that were easily accessible for new players. Hierarchy of Needs is a cool concept, but it lacks in the ease of use and overall damage. There's a reason why a lot of players don't use it, and you don't see many builds on it. But if it's your favorite bow, keep on playing with it! 🙂
@ThriveOnEgo_
@ThriveOnEgo_ Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming Hierarchy is one of the highest dps primaries in the game...
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
@ThriveOnEgo I personally still think it needs a little more help, but if it's your go-to choice, then keep on slaying with it.
@ThriveOnEgo_
@ThriveOnEgo_ Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming its higher DPS than Outbreak and ToM, and was 5% less dps than linears last season so its probably better than that now. not sure where it needs help. you must not have the bow im guessing.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
​@ThriveOnEgo It's just a collectible for me. It lacks ease of use, draw time is horrible if you don't have the catalyst. It's easy to get overwhelmed with enemies. Ticcuu has higher raw damage. Honestly I rather just play with wishender. Draw time sucks, but there is no setup and puts out relatively the same raw damage. I didn't include these bows since they are tied to dungeons. They are not easily accessible for new players.
@jesusseinpferd__9628
@jesusseinpferd__9628 Жыл бұрын
If it works Trinity Ghoul is easily the best, but since it doesnt always work Le monarque takes the top spot in both high end pve and pvp imo. Shoutout to Wishender def worth the honorable mention
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I like wishender, but it's tied to a dungeon, so it's harder for new players. I only included bows that were easily accessible for all players. Also, anti champions are pieces of cake this season. The intrinsic arrows are nice but not necessary right now.
@jesusseinpferd__9628
@jesusseinpferd__9628 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming fair enough
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
@JesusSeinPferd __ Right now, strand suspension is amazing for champions. And now they are nerfing all around difficulty in the game. Lol
@jesusseinpferd__9628
@jesusseinpferd__9628 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming yea suspension is crazy rn.
@southernpennsyrailfan8579
@southernpennsyrailfan8579 Жыл бұрын
When I got the trinity ghoul after 7-8 months of trying, I started crying because I had been after that Very weapon for so longsince I started playing the game
@maxderps2823
@maxderps2823 Жыл бұрын
Trinity Ghoul is slept on imo. Once you get a kill in pvp you can finish people off around corners who have only been hit once
@elliekerstiens1916
@elliekerstiens1916 Жыл бұрын
I don’t care what this video says I haven’t started lemon is king
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
It says Lemon is king lol
@Nothings_Shore
@Nothings_Shore Жыл бұрын
6 days ago and no mention of wish-ender or hierarchy of needs? 🤔 question…why?
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
It's in the description. Lol. These bows are easy for all players to get. Dungeon related bows are harder for new players to obtain, so I didn't include them. I decided a few days ago to create a tier list and include the 2 bows you mentioned, some legendary favorites, and LB. I'm going to do a part 2 after I finish my other videos and have time from work.
@Nothings_Shore
@Nothings_Shore Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming no rush 👌
@stevenreadicker2777
@stevenreadicker2777 Жыл бұрын
My only critique is that I'd rank Trinity higher, especially as a Warlock main.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm bummed it detonates but doesn't ignite. You imagine how busted it would be if it could synergize with solar 3.0?
@ibg0th
@ibg0th Жыл бұрын
You sound like a southern football coach with a good demeanor.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I'm from the south and I love football!
@ibg0th
@ibg0th Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming me too lol thats why i said it haha great video!
@andreas4631
@andreas4631 Жыл бұрын
I really like all the bows but i always end up with Le Monarque again.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@WozLee
@WozLee Жыл бұрын
Hi, Wishender main here. Thanks for not including the actual best bow in the game, what Bungie doesn't know can't hurt us, pip pip, mum's the word.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ThriveOnEgo_
@ThriveOnEgo_ Жыл бұрын
they don't have it that's why
@deejinnwoo5954
@deejinnwoo5954 Жыл бұрын
Poison bow works really well in new defiant activities especially with the new op void artifact mods
@night_san03
@night_san03 10 ай бұрын
Okay, but, big question everyone's skipping: WHY TF IS YOUR STASIS SO WHITE!? It's supposed to be borderline purple, but yours has a fresh layer of cocane on it. Why???
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming 10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure! I do have HDR, but it could just be how color palette is displayed on my montior. I play on 1440p with an ASUS HDR monitor. If you would like those settings, then let me know. Unfortunately, this video is no longer relevant at this time. Thanks for watching!
@Kizzster
@Kizzster Жыл бұрын
wishender is a sniper with free ammo. = the best!
@MsPoopyinthepotty
@MsPoopyinthepotty Жыл бұрын
Mans forgot wish ender and the dungeon bow
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I'm going to do a part 2 follow up. I only included bows that were easily accessible for all players. Bows in this video are very very easy to get.
@prestonmassengale2950
@prestonmassengale2950 Жыл бұрын
brother wish ender also slaps in pve and pvp
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I'm not saying it doesn't. I didn't include Bows you aquire from dungeons. I only included bows that were easily accessible for all players. New and returning.
@prestonmassengale2950
@prestonmassengale2950 Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming Oh yeah bro ik, i was just letting you know in case you hadnt tried it out
@Telesto_Timelost
@Telesto_Timelost Жыл бұрын
You forgot wishender and hierarchy of needs
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm going to do a part 2. Only included bows that were easily accessible for all players as stated in the description.
@TheOniklaz
@TheOniklaz Жыл бұрын
Le monarque, Leviathans Breath and WishEnder are the only bows to really use (besides trinity ghoul ofc)
@tjroyal3101
@tjroyal3101 Жыл бұрын
Hail Barrage x5 + Shatterdive change my mind 😂
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I'll admit its fun in the crucible.
@Neo0787
@Neo0787 Жыл бұрын
Wish Ender is the Best Bow in the game hands down
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I didn't include the dungeon bows in this video. I think I'll try to make an effective build for it in an upcoming video. Thanks for watching!
@shakepreman
@shakepreman Жыл бұрын
Where is hierarchy and wishender?
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Wishender is kinetic, and anti-champions are a piece of cake this season. I only included bows that are easily accessible for new players.
@Darkandmenacing
@Darkandmenacing Жыл бұрын
Causality casualty
@phoenixmacdonald8456
@phoenixmacdonald8456 Жыл бұрын
What about wish ender
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I'm going to do a Part 2 and include the other bows. I only included the bows that were easily accessible for new players
@Pacoglasgow
@Pacoglasgow Жыл бұрын
Causality Casualty
@Gravesyte
@Gravesyte Жыл бұрын
So we aren't going to talk about hierarchy of needs?
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I'm going to do a part 2 video. My original intentions were just to include bows that were easily accessible for all players. That's why there's only the 4 in the thumbnail. I have other videos that I'm currently working on. Once I complete those, then you can expect a part 2 video.
@Sin526
@Sin526 Жыл бұрын
Ticcu's is my bae
@trooperdonnie
@trooperdonnie Жыл бұрын
Hierarchy?
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I didn't include the dungeon bows, since they are not easily accessible for new players. I'm working on a part 2.
@dmlx4209
@dmlx4209 Жыл бұрын
W video
@OneNubNinja
@OneNubNinja Жыл бұрын
Trinity Ghoul stan🤭🤭
@athebaar
@athebaar Жыл бұрын
No wish ender? 😢
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I can make a wishender review, lol. I have some other videos in the works that will be released this week, but I can definitely get to it. I didn't include Dungeon bows since they aren't easily accessible for new players.
@nekromantiko4985
@nekromantiko4985 Жыл бұрын
and wish ender?
@partydeer1640
@partydeer1640 Жыл бұрын
Answer: Leviathan's Breath
@Beam67
@Beam67 Жыл бұрын
Monarque is easily top 3 weapons in the game
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@kouguy8213
@kouguy8213 Жыл бұрын
(1) Leviathan's Breath (2) Wishender ...The End
@Xarcell
@Xarcell Жыл бұрын
Wish-Ender is the best.
@MrMannerless
@MrMannerless Жыл бұрын
Lemon arch.
@blackmamba3060
@blackmamba3060 Жыл бұрын
W vid
@darkside7802
@darkside7802 Жыл бұрын
I always though Le Monarque was super annoying in PVP. I finally bought it. Used it. Yup. Shits annoying. I love it.
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
Exactly, poison definitely changes the field of play. Thorn is sort of the same way.
@marinawolf
@marinawolf Жыл бұрын
Wishender is the best, hands-down. There, saved you 20 minutes 😆
@zanomicsgaming
@zanomicsgaming Жыл бұрын
I don't expect people to watch 20 minutes, that's why I have timestamps. 😂
@marinawolf
@marinawolf Жыл бұрын
@@zanomicsgaming it was a joke, friend.
@addiso
@addiso Жыл бұрын
Like your accent
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