Destiny Reduced to Screaming Heap in Basic Religious Debate

[@TheProblem2025]

We sure do live in a society, huh

[@aurizzistic]

We do be living in a society

[@CromulentEmbiggening]

we do be farding and shidding

[@serversurfer6169]

"The two yootulatarians…" Excuse me, the two _what?_

[@mechanomics2649]

Two yoots.

[@IsomorphicPhi]

Conversations with Ambrose, we love to see it!

[@observer2817]

Can you list a bunch of books you havent read, please?.... i wanna hear those mad debate skills.

[@redberdyaev6648]

11:13 A bit of off hand Islamophobia from the NotsoErudite. Always a clever move to do a racism while pounding your chest about how tolerate you are.

[@deusredux]

I was about to comment the same. Just do a casual bigotry to build rapport with your Christian nationalist conversant. Such rhetorical flare!

[@redberdyaev6648]

@@deusredux She's definitely pandering to a hard right audience. I don't know if it shows she isn't the moderate liberal she pretends to be, or that the difference between the moderate liberal and the hard rightists is thinner than we'd like to believe.

[@env0x]

@@redberdyaev6648 she's just copying destiny. and it's funny because she's essentially a pentecostal christian, but just doesn't call herself that because she doesn't know what pentacostalism is.

[@redberdyaev6648]

@@env0x That would explain a lot. Funny thing is she probably thinks she's our fucking expert on philosophy, religion, politics, and everything we know lol.

[@dm_1236]

With her rhetoric on Palestine right now and getting triggered over “martyrdom”, you are 100% right about her. Thank you for catching this.

[@PresidentSunday]

I do not apologize for the horrendous audio

[@minasmorgul34]

The hero we deserve (and can't understand acoustically).

[@mikewin7056]

Typical Leftist Audio

[@problywrong4676]

Go off, King 👑

[@VintageBassArchive]

discord link expired

[@seanphelps4057]

Leftist audio.

[@GabSte1989]

26:42 lol, that washer is loud

[@PresidentSunday]

I apologize for nothing

[@aurizzistic]

​@@PresidentSundayBased Sunday

[@aurizzistic]

More Ambrose! I love listening to you two bicker and banter.

[@folklorefanatic7193]

If I had a Canadian accent, my voice would sound like the philosophy scholar (Sunday's guest). It was like listening to a doppelganger. 😅

[@Hreodrich]

1:14:21 How would this assertion deal with something like, growing up on a farm? For example a large family subsistence farming to survive. Children are included in labor that doesn’t produce “just a bunch of money” for anyone, rather their labor aids in the sustenance of the family and is understood as a virtuous undertaking where one learns discipline and responsibility while contributing directly to the health and well being of the family. This can easily be (and often is/was) situated within a concept of eudaimonja that is contextualized within a particular ethical framework and participation in community. By all accounts this could easily be seen as the type of “child labor” in question that exists within an industrialized society that we are presupposing is just self evidently morally repugnant from the jump. In the farming example there plenty of things one would get from child labor that for their part wouldn’t be said to be just instrumentally valuable. They may be instrumentally valuable but why would you just assume that someone participating in community and harvesting/tilling the farm with their father wouldn’t be getting a host of other things from it? Couldn’t get a “deep sense of fulfillment and joy” from something like this? Ask my dad how he felt when he was dragged away from my pawpaw and the draft horses when he had to start going to school. To this day he maintains that he dreaded it. A lot of assumptions being smuggled in here as a given as well. “Good in itself”? How’d you determine what that even is?

[@serversurfer6169]

It never occurred to me that someone may consider me responsible for the death of the person on the side track, because I assigned responsibility for putting them into harm's way to whomever tied everyone to the tracks. Therein lies the difference between that scenario and pushing the fat guy off the bridge. 🤷‍♂

[@ah-sh9dw]

Same. I also thought that it was generally accepted that you're supposed to do that. Like for example if you're flying a plane and it malfunctions you aim to crash land in the area with the least people. Kinda shocked that it could be viewed as sociopathic

[@shortymccutlery8919]

Listening to eurodite and destiny meltdown at the end in the background was priceless.

[@Shimansaji]

Days waiting for a utilitarian to describe a util: No. 4,745.

[@DoctorWhoBlue]

Really amusing to listen to this after Andrew's debate with Vaush. How the turn tables...

[@foxgloved8922]

Ursula Lagoon

[@infinityand0]

streamers really need to learn audio.

[@angelwine1673]

Who is sunday talking to in his room

[@aurizzistic]

Their name is Ambrose. I believe they are a professor of philosophy? Also I believe they dated at some point im not sure. Thats what I could glean from them talking

[@angelwine1673]

@@aurizzistic idk why, but I thought it was Djalma

[@mechanomics2649]

Ghosts.

[@disingenuousdencemtherfcke227]

Add background girl to more streams and vids

[@Hreodrich]

I don’t care if you hate Andrew Wilson. What you can’t deny is that he has destiny’s number when it comes to debate. Ever single encounter I’ve seen he’s absolutely humiliated destiny.

[@Symeon22]

1:06:40 I don't understand that point here. Wouldn't you on both grounds end up with with severely impaired/traumatized subjects /individuals that (likely, not universally) could not function within society to a certain degree and or be unable to make ethical decisions due to, for example, stress or trauma or a lack of education associated with having your formative years destroyed?

[@Symeon22]

Unrelated question to the debate you two commented on here.

[@redemtion____2835]

But no stream????

[@Hreodrich]

1:26:25 like martyrdom? Our self sacrifice?

[@lobete]

I was very confused over the side topic on supposed failures of utilitarianism based on ambiguity over the meaning of "utility" and how utilitarianism still requires a first order virtue. This isn't a failure or flaw. Utilitarians already know this, it comes up anytime one is asked what "good" means, it requires a fallback to a first order. What was also funny about this topic is... that is true if every ethical system, none of them are "first order." Even if their proponents claim it.

[@political4423]

don't watch crucible perspective next time lol

[@weebgrinder-AIArtistPro]

These "Destiny exposed as a moron / sophist" VODs are hilarious. Also wtf Erudite? "I'm not a fucking MUSLIM.I don't meed a political system based on my religion." Does she really not know to what degree Judaism influenced so many cultures including ours? Salem witch trials? Etc.

[@gamerman7276]

Destiny is cringe

[@Marfychan]

getting mad when someone you're arguing with is acting in bad faith and can't help but interrupt you seems pretty normal?

[@49perfectss]

It never ceases to amaze me that theists think you need a god for morality lol. Such a silly belief!

[@CGSocDem]

Do you know where I can find the original video?

[@timothy209]

You don't need God to be a moral person, but you can't claim your morality is objective without God

[@49perfectss]

@@timothy209 objectivity is mind independent so.... You can't have one with god either. You CAN have one if you set a definition first (well being for me and gods opinion for you as an example). Might want to make sure your objection isn't something shared by your so called solution 🤷‍♂️

[@49perfectss]

@@timothy209 also I want to make sure it's clear that my objection is not the same as saying Destiny did well here lol. Not a huge fanboy of his just pointing out bad reasoning.

[@49perfectss]

@@CGSocDem I don't sorry. Looks like it might be a different streaming service that I don't use. Maybe ask the uploader if they can share it in the comments?

[@CGSocDem]

1:05:00

[@Firstea1899]

Destiny slept with Lauren Southern

[@aurizzistic]

Definately lol they did lie about her getting pregnant however I still believe they had sex. Something almost ruined their relationship August last year

[@odingungnir3669]

eeeewwww

[@whisperingleaves]

Who hasn't though?

[@followingtheroe1952]

Lexi do you ever shut the frick up? They are just kids

[@zelonorueuro5389]

@@whisperingleaves I did

[@caad5258]

a classic

[@dizehjvegnomis]

this was...."fun" damnit