Lefty Actually Changes Position After HEATED Exchanges

[@destiny]

These panels are getting more and more heated... Also, Destiny 1v1 Primecayes debate when???

[@チャラ-k4o]

These* MISSP OMEGALUL KE

[@TheGreatJ]

Prime will never do it. He can barely get out a single point on his own panel.

[@xCrimsonTV]

!nuke misspoke

[@IvanTheLeiwand]

ultimate BIPOC debate

[@nikobates6897]

Never. PrimeCayes seems chill, but he’s a disgrace of a panelist and moderator.

[@kaijuhunter7458]

Holy fuck, watching someone like Prime makes me appreciate Dylan Burns so much more. Dude can go hard as a panelist, but does a pretty good job of not injecting his own viewpoints when he's the moderator. Prime legit talks more than the entire rest of the panel put together, then says "Oh, these people need to go, they've been waiting," when he's spent 9 years going "U-Um, uhhh-" and being the #1 cause of those waits. Either let your 600 other panelists speak or don't fucking 'moderate' the discussion, Jesus Christ.

[@hartyewh1]

I don't have quite as much of an issue with Prime as most here seem to, but, that said, Dylan is fucking golden as a moderator. He makes discussion work between way more difficult parties then you'd see elsewhere. Being friendly to and respected by all participants makes them try to behave. For someone his age to have the character to pull that off is a rare thing and he's setting an example for most.

[@AnimeFan9833]

While we're appreciating Dylan here, he also always takes note and keeps track of who wanted to speak and in what order. Sometimes he breaks that order to let someone get a quick word in but he always keeps it nice, short and let's everyone make their point. Just a little notebook could make so much difference for prime's panel.

[@vitaminstorm9429]

To be fair, prime is usually really good at not injecting himself too much. Everyone gets heated at something, so its understandable every once in a while. I still think prime is a great panel host

[@AaronHernandez-hm9ut]

Bc Dylan is someone who needs to protected at all costs

[@XelnasTV]

prime really only does this when destiny is on because destiny gets super heated. Sometimes i forget prime is there in his panels except to order people.

[@ANudderYTuber]

Primes has 6 people with their hands raised and just keeps talking for another 40 minutes....

[@DavidGFalzarano]

in the future, "Hey stop raising your hands when I'm speaking! I'll mute your camera I swear!"

[@MrShagification]

He's obviously ignoring them. I don't think he's really trying to be a neutral moderator. It's his show, he can do what he wants.

[@TacticalDook]

@@MrShagification He can do what he wants, which is why his panels are trash. He reeks of insecurity and it obviously shows in his inept understanding of issues he feels so strongly about. And to top it all off, he is compensating for it so hard with his ego tripping style of moderating. I cringe so hard whenever he tells people to shut up.

[@thatindiandude4602]

@@TacticalDook exactly. Then why be a moderator, you can just run monologues all day and have rhetorical flourishes.

[@Kayzewolf]

But remember THIS IS HIS PLATFORM AND HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS At least he reminds people anytime he's criticized.

[@halffox102]

Prime is honestly the worst part about all these panels, he constantly interrupts people to make dumb points then puts on this super cringe internet tough guy act.

[@SpideyFan777]

His "tough guy" routine is just cover for when he gets triggered--which is a lot.

[@DiscoPvPMegaWalls]

DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME SAYING THAT ON MY SHOW? THAT'S WHAT I FUCKING THOUGHT he needs to calm down

[@andrewscarpati9665]

I disagree. I don't agree with his takes, but you can have a host who also acts the part of a panelist. I feel his actual problem is twofold though. One is that he has way too many people on, and the second is that were this not his show, he is not charismatic enough to make himself heard, and thus resorts awful quick to 'I will mute/ disconnect you'.

[@Half-timeHero]

*puffs chest* Maybe you didn't hear me

[@kambido890]

His personality is honestly one type of dude i just don't get along with... at all.

[@xxxEXxxGODxxx]

Hilarious that when Prime leaves, the conversation becomes 1000x more structured and civil...

[@JustN0tMe]

And it was noticeable

[@wisetrollman]

True lmao. Nice moderator

[@TonyBagadonuts]

Prime is super soft and has a very fragile ego. “Don’t tell me what to do on MY PLATFORM! I CAN LAUGH WHEN I WANT!”

[@ElCiscoTV]

yeah i was gonna say, it seems that he is going through an ego trip

[@paperpersona1243]

Yeah I think that was him trying to act tough but it just came off as so whiney lol especially to a girl who wasn't even being rude to him at all. 😂 God I've always disliked Prime as a moderator but this takes the cake for me.

[@OhMyGoshua]

He is seriously insufferable. I abuses his moderator powers to be a panelist and he's kind of stupid.

[@kokosnotenXD]

*proceeds to laugh at domestic violence* ah yeah great point there prime nothing valid here at all...

[@ambushbob5383]

I can only speek for myself but it makes me not want to take him seriously.

[@StardustStreams]

loved this panel - while trying to talk about people who are victims of crimes, someone laughed, i called them out, and got yelled at for "tone policing" 1:37:47

[@MaleTears]

sorry, that pissed me off too...really shitty of Prime.

[@rajasbhate57]

You were making an excellent point which would completely prove why any argument based on personal experience is worthless. Prime realized that and tried to distract you with his laughing and tone policing bs.

[@dbz287]

Jeeze primes attitude and condescension was off the charts this panel. Is he okay?

[@rreeeekk]

You seem based but that might just be because you were agreeing with our parasocial cult leader and I'm not capable of my own thoughts anymore 😎🤙

[@weebtrash6119]

You made an excellent point, that was cringe af when Prime did that

[@Lollonman1]

I'm gonna say it and I'll stand by it: AMAB, All Moderators Are Bastards, defund Prime and make him stop interrupting everyone just to share his personal take over the others

[@Lollonman1]

@@zyvoxx8107 no, I mean all of them, because there are moderators inherently bastards and moderators watching without taking action against them and being part of the group, and they are bastards too.

[@prophetesskarol5754]

Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God showed to me a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding on to them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford to these motherless foundation (DIVINE MERCY ORPHANAGE HOME FOUNDATION) in Edo State Nigeria, before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact where ever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Contact or WhatsApp the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details [phone] tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you..

[@starrett9556]

And the worst moderator award goes toooooo...... PRIMEEEEEE round of applause.

[@mechanomics2649]

I'd disagree and say both him and John Burke are tied.

[@voidnihl]

He's the worst moderator I've ever seen

[@Phil.Anthropy]

@@mechanomics2649 now I have MORE to watch... I must see someone tied with this dumpster fire of a mod.

[@Green-tf8uw]

Unanimous vote

[@solomonlyons10]

Agreed

[@alswearengenismydaddy6902]

53:38 "I don't think it's that controversial to say acab". That's one of the most severe cases of "being online" that I've ever witness

[@prophetesskarol5754]

Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God showed to me a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding on to them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford to these motherless foundation (DIVINE MERCY ORPHANAGE HOME FOUNDATION) in Edo State Nigeria, before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact where ever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Contact or WhatsApp the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details [phone] tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you

[@TheFreshTrumpet]

@@prophetesskarol5754 lol wow

[@kaidms]

Lmao

[@alexander_avila]

Some parts of this panel had only one person speaking at a time. How boring, please get more people!

[@monstergarou3848]

Alex, you watch Destiny?!!

[@minecrap4733]

Am I gay

[@dannygelbart6827]

@@minecrap4733 Your name tells me that you aren't.

[@dannygelbart6827]

@@pr4208 you necroed a dead everything just to say you're addicted to crack cocaine....interesting.

[@user-gv1ud2oq1w]

@@dannygelbart6827 when we needed him most... he returned 5 months later. Based

[@LukeNichols19]

Host - “what if I had a dozen mf’ers on at the same time but I just talked the entire time.”

[@MrShagification]

But if it's his program, he can pretty much do whatever he wants

[@colbyrob4814]

@@MrShagification why even say this shit. Like him running the show makes him exempt of all criticism. Sorry that shit just triggers me

[@Yoshimitsu4prez]

@@MrShagification sure..? Why say this? He’s free to do it but it’s dumb as shit. If you wanna just ramble about how you don’t care about pragmatism you don’t have to bring on a massive panel

[@connorendres4544]

@@MrShagification yeah no shit, but its obvious that people dont join a panel to get trampled by some power hungry moderator who bullies people out of talking

[@MrAzul132]

@@colbyrob4814 But if it's his comment, he can pretty much say whatever he wants

[@sgtduckduck]

Prime won't debate anyone without his mod powers.

[@bbbutcher]

@@prophetesskarol5754 ok and

[@darrenr90]

@@prophetesskarol5754 can you make your statement in a different way? I didn't quite understand what you were saying.

[@keelograms911]

Nobody: Prime: SHUT THE FUCK UP I'M TALKING

[@beholdthesupergirl]

@@keelograms911 I was just thinking this! He needs to either sit quiet and neutral or he needs to designate another person to mod if he wants to participate. It's dirty bullshit to debate as a moderator. I don't see any referees in the NBA shooting baskets.

[@justanothernick3984]

Maybe modding and debating at the same time isn't really productive. Like how he is against authority but as soon as he gets confronted, expects instant obedience. Guess it's not only cops that are bastards (not saying they are just to be clear), and someone needs some self reflection.

[@Kayzewolf]

Prime: "WAIT! Let me explain, I'm literally about to explain it" *gives a super basic hivemind take that literally proves what he was trying to disprove* Prime as MODERATOR: "Shut up and let me finish my thought. I will mute you if you don't!" *meanwhile Prime constantly interrupts others after already having a 4-5 minute ramble prior* Prime is probably a chill dude but he's really not meant for this content.

[@WanderTheNomad]

Amazing how much one person can change in different contexts. Though I guess it shouldn't be surprising that some people become shittier when it comes to politics.

[@HomestarZombieSlayer]

He's cool on the 5 person panels but idk if anyone can be good at moderating 14 people.

[@HBxMmkay]

@@HomestarZombieSlayer i think that’s the crux of the issue. Not excusing the cringe/harshness of how he tries to moderate, but people act like it’d be possible to have a good focused discourse between 35764 people. It won’t

[@trivialcomment8354]

Some panels he does better at not getting involved while moderating. This wasn’t one of them.

[@Kayzewolf]

@@trivialcomment8354 Feels like it's the case when he's in panels with people that mostly agree with him or he can dunk on conservative takes. He's felt more pressure to be involved with people that are progressives but don't hate moderates and tend to push on extreme lefty narratives.

[@TheRadPlayer]

There's gotta be a huge overlap of "we should abolish the police" and "I've never had to call the police"

[@DieNibelungenliad]

Most people who want the police abolished will end up regretting it later.

[@rakshas1340]

@@DieNibelungenliad I don't think so and i think it's even worse. From what i'm seeing, most acab supporter are white suburban kids in low crime areas. It will affect more the places of low income.

[@napoleonblownapart8155]

Exactly. They would be the first to crumple under the assault from random criminals if there were no police. These people have never seen crime.

[@johnhenry8257]

Every time these I hate the police people get any minor inconvenience in life they are the first to scream “call the police”

[@boilermankamajii]

@@rakshas1340 exactly. The people who hold these ideologies are the last who would be effected by them. People who have never seen crime aren’t going to see it after abolishing the system. Those who have however will fucking suffer.

[@Keegbot]

Prime: “Stardust, then Destiny” *Stardust makes point* Prime: “okay so I think that’s wrong *goes on tirade*” Destiny: ._.

[@kaidms]

What's stardust's twitch name? She was making the most sense with destiny a close second.

[@burner1339]

Prime's "ACAB but not ACAB" take was so based and brave...

[@do_care919]

So SOY

[@m.czandogg9576]

25:30

[@do_care919]

@@PigBosley example?

[@fungdark8270]

@@PigBosley Yeah, not disagreeing with someone is for cowards

[@Phil.Anthropy]

@@PigBosley Stunning and brave of you... *Slow clap*

[@bwaynebman4066]

I'm starting to dislike Prime. He acts like he's here to school Destiny, and shuts down his other 200 guests to filibuster the conversation. It's cringe.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

It doesn't help that he's intellectually lacking, he is, frankly, dumb.

[@1socom]

He was always a bad moderator. He seems to be getting worse by the day though..

[@keithfilibeck2390]

@@1socom Power corrupts the small minded even faster.

[@Just_Red_]

@@1socom he's gotten like 10x worse since Biden was elected lmao

[@TheButterAnvil]

I disliked him almost immediately lmao

[@sylvl5759]

Why does Prime always need to self insert and be a panelist himself; awful. Why even invite 20 other people if YOU just want to debate. A panelist with muting abilities and the ability to talk over anyone because he is the host 😐

[@metroids224]

@@gaston6800 That's not the reason he's unlikeable haha

[@PedroRDoudement]

@Andrew Stevenson i like him. he's usually a ok host. its this walk-ins panels that he gets more heated and involves himself more. Also, do you mean "Milquetoast"? or milk toast is a expression that means the same?

[@blinkanddie3397]

I feel like he didn't used to be like that. He used to be really good at allowing everyone to talk. I've only really noticed him doing it more recently

[@meltedsnowman9637]

@Andrew Stevenson Wasn't the whole point of the panel that "All cops are bastards", something that Prime believes in and certainly isn't a milquetoast take, is nothing but pointlessly radical and divisive?

[@semimad100]

@@blinkanddie3397 yeah, before like 2 weeks ago i didn't really have a issue with his moderation but, now its AIDS

[@chadmonty9967]

Prime: I think we should kill all dogs Destiny: so we should kill cute puppies Prime: WOO WOO WOO I NEvEr SaID ThAT!!!!

[@YTGCodeCrash4U]

😭

[@prophetesskarol5754]

Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God showed to me a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding on to them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford to these motherless foundation (DIVINE MERCY ORPHANAGE HOME FOUNDATION) in Edo State Nigeria, before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact where ever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Contact or WhatsApp the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details [phone] tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.

[@aspider3254]

@@prophetesskarol5754 this is a great channel to try that shit on

[@CrityCrit]

Lmaooooo

[@jakestamper1031]

I'm a conservative watching this, and I sympathize with reasonable leftists having to deal with complete clowns like this Prime guy. Just for anybody curious, people like this are one of the biggest factors in people choosing to become conservative.

[@fruitytuesdayz5760]

Yuup

[@sp00kyd4ddy6]

I don't see the point in identifying with any of them mfers are actually joining factions like this is an mmo. Why can't we all just believe what we believe without waving flags above our heads.

[@rickross9829]

be less reactionary

[@seafoam6119]

@@rickross9829 stop butchering children

[@XaiooiaX]

@@rickross9829 ironic considering the topic of this entire discussion is entirely reactionary. ACAB only exists because people wanted to shit on police, and refuse to accept that their own rhetoric is harming their movement because theyre so angry at how the police handle their policing. Politics is inherently reactionary for the vast majority of people.

[@MrJBlich]

If Prime just wants to debate Destiny, why doesn’t he just ....debate Destiny? Why does he need a live audience?

[@keithfilibeck2390]

Prime is very hyper aware that he isn't as good at debates or intellectual discussions in general and tries to compensate with big leaguing people (like the lady who called him on it here), due to this I believe he will never leave his panels to debate anyone, he needs the power.

[@NorthAyase]

To sum up their hypothetical debate: Prime - "I didn't say that, you're strawmanning me".

[@teec4p]

@@NorthAyase -Someone repeats primes argument verbatum: "You are putting words into my mouth, I didn't say that" -Someone wants to add something in a prime 20minute ramble: "Dont interrupt me or I mute you" -Someone is saying something but prime has another 20minute ramble ready: "Shut up, shut up, shut up" -Prime just after telling someone to shut up: "I lost my train of thought" -Destiny tries to speak at any point: "Strawman Destiny" Here, I've done the synthesis of all of primes panels for you.

[@Nick-oo5lh]

@@teec4p THIS COMMENT IS TOO TRUE LMAO

[@kstar1489]

What do you mean why does he need a live audience, he’s a twitch streamer

[@AnimeFan9833]

Prime just really needs to decide on wether he wants to be a panelist or the moderator. Half moderating half arguing just doesn't work. You're not going to be fair if you're invested and you're not going to argue well if you're only there occasionally. Though I could imagine that being possible, you'd still need to have a clear focus.

[@novacancy5806]

At this point it feels more like three quarters arguing, a fourth telling his guests to shut up. Half wonder if it gets worse over time due to growing ego over increasing popularity of the stream.

[@KittenIgnition]

@@novacancy5806 in one of the previous panels he mentioned how he fell into this position as a moderator because he's good at sitting back and just listening. oh how the turns have tabled...

[@TallCanDan02]

@@novacancy5806 prime power tripping over being mod harder than an american cop.

[@funsterkeyven]

@@KittenIgnition it shows how terrible some people can be on judging themselves

[@clizard1923]

The case where a moderator interjects makes the most sense is to clarify/reword a panelist's comment/argument if other debater(s) are misunderstanding what they meant which would derail the debate. But where there are so many members in the panel, this is less necessary as another panelist can fill in that role, so the moderator should stay neutral and just focus on keeping the debate flowing smoothly.

[@EleaxustheFlawless]

I love these debates but christ prime is not a good moderator.

[@markallen6433]

I would love the debate if a good moderator was running it. Prime is so fucking horrible. The panelists are not necessarily all at the same level of quality, but actually having a good spread is solid, even if someone has a dumbfuck take every time they open their mouth, but when the MODERATOR is preferentially giving himself extra opportunities to give hot dog shit takes, it's such a fucking drag.

[@ToughSailor31]

I'd go as far as saying he's a piece of shit

[@sirclamsalot9032]

How come no one talks to prime about how he abuses his admin role? Whenever someone is about to make an argument he threatens to mute them. If you don’t want a conversation then don’t invite people on your panel. I’m only 20 minutes in and he’s talking way too much.

[@mechanomics2649]

Both him and John Burke are terrible moderators.

[@markallen6433]

@@ToughSailor31 He's definitely a regressive cringelord tanking the movement. I find it insane how people don't see how Prime is only hurting the process of improving conditions for any of the things he says he cares about. GSU, Destiny Kobi et al are the only ones helping, and the vast majority of the people who say they care are cannibalizing the movement for their echo chamber virtue signalling which is entirely siloed behavior until it leaks out in a toxic manner. So fucking painful to watch and just fucking disgusting.

[@kgm4556]

I actually can’t even believe how bad of a moderator Prime is.

[@kgm4556]

@@cinemaster9012 Yeah 100%, i’m not even talking about policy either. The way he gets “control” of the panel by constantly saying “Shut up” is just so disrespectful of his guests .

[@CryptoKeshin]

destiny spits facts for 2 hours and gets ignored, Dylan comes on and says the exact same thing and people are like “yeah that sounds good I changed my mind” lol wtf how does he keep doing it

[@dbz287]

Instead of time stamps on topics, someone name time stamps of every time prime treats his guests like peasants he can bully

[@halfbloodprincess989]

Oh yes pleeeeeeeeeease! The way he talks over people gives me war-flashbacks to getting bullied in highschool xD. He told that Stardust-girl to shup up, made her wait for 20 frigging minutes to get her point out (very intelligent point btw) - and then interrupted her after 30 sec. Prime has only three aruments: *"shutupshutup!"* *"stop interrrupting me!"* and *"I forgot my point"* - people who constantly interrupt others should not whine that they 'can't finish a frigging sentence' when interrupted x.x

[@dbz287]

@@halfbloodprincess989 lmao

[@janold0808]

SHUT THE F*** UP I'M TALKING

[@dbz287]

@@janold0808 EXCUSE ME??? WHO DO YOU THINK YOURE TALKING TO YOU? THIS IS MY COMMENT AND I CAN SAY WTF I WANT OKAY? lmao when hes cussing people out is the only time he isn’t going uhhh, ummm, right? , Nervous laughter

[@janold0808]

@@dbz287 😂😂 truuue I can't imagine what a 1v1 debate would look like because then he couldn't mute his opponent lol

[@Darkmortal100]

PrimeCayes: Uses ACAB on a public platform Also PrimeCayes: WhAt CoNtExT Do YoU ThInK Im UsInG AcAb iN

[@AnimeFan9833]

Haven't seen that part yet but not all public platforms are equal. Wether you're sitting in a lefty panel or on fox news is a big difference.

[@NarutoStorm3Rocks]

@@AnimeFan9833 that's the reason why being on his panel with other fellow lefties, makes him SO BRAVE for what he's saying

[@AnimeFan9833]

@@NarutoStorm3Rocks Ok? Politics isn't about being bRaVe it's about using your rhetoric with appropriate audiences.

[@theolindgrenbuthler3528]

@@AnimeFan9833 you mean circle jerking acab?

[@AnimeFan9833]

@@theolindgrenbuthler3528 Yes, that's exactly what I said.

[@neck_acrobatics]

I love when Destiny says something spicy and the entire panel starts talking at the same time. Good shit.

[@markboggs746]

Prime usually comes over better than this because in this case he was wrong. Saying ACAB is stupid. It has no value ever unless you don't want any police at all. If you don't want any police at all then sure, say it. Otherwise why are you saying it? Who are you trying to convince of what? When do you think you can say that to them such that others don't hear you say it? ... Unless you are an anarchist saying ACAB is stupid.

[@trime547]

Prime is almost always wrong.

[@awaister]

What exactly is the point of having 50 people on your panel when you’re the only one who’s gonna talk ?

[@travisalexphoto]

Watching Prime run straight into a brick wall of his own arguments when challenged on them is truly amazin.

[@prophetesskarol5754]

Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God showed to me a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding on to them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford to these motherless foundation (DIVINE MERCY ORPHANAGE HOME FOUNDATION) in Edo State Nigeria, before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact where ever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Contact or WhatsApp the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details [phone] tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.

[@mossyallison7675]

@marek nitka BBBEEEETTTAAA

[@nathandotson6350]

Damn didn't realize this was going to be another panel where Prime uses his moderating power to be able to ramble for 15 minutes, guess power really does corrupt, sadge.

[@john_pete]

Literally worst mod

[@nathandotson6350]

@@john_pete holy shit 36:56 he's such an annoying mod, he literally mutes people and talks shit on them when he's supposed to be moderating, what a fucking joke of a mod he is

[@john_pete]

@@nathandotson6350 exactly, the mod needs to control the others of the panel, not shit on everyone he doesnt agree with 🙃

[@lunavyz901]

I’ve been saying this! Is prime blackmailing destiny or something like wtf. Why does he keep getting on these dogshit panels.

[@nathandotson6350]

1:05:03 even worse than the first timestamp, he's trying to be alpha so hard, it's so fucking cringe.

[@rreeeekk]

Prime: "not every message that comes from a movement needs to be focused on bringing in jim bob from kansas" Destiny: "you need to bring in jim bob that's the only person you need to bring in" Prime: "you're putting words in my mouth as usual" ¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?

[@rreeeekk]

I thought it was funny when Prime said that it's Destiny's fault that he wasn't out dedicating his energy to changing policy because they were too busy debating. He was obviously joking but nobody laughed.

[@markallen6433]

@@rreeeekk Prime is so fucking incompetent, both as a debater and a moderator. Why the fuck is he running these things? Why the fuck are people joining these? There are actually based moderators out there. I'm so fucking confused.

[@kerbert2954]

@@markallen6433 the entire format of this show is shitty. Having a 20 person debate isn't gonna work.

[@griggerykimothy4865]

That shit really feels like a crutch for prime

[@markallen6433]

@@kerbert2954 Bullshit. 100% bullshit. People just need to be organized, and well moderated. Probably best to have more than 1 moderator when you have that many people. Probably best to have a moderator per side of the debate when it's that big, or like team captains or something. Nothing wrong with having many contributors, but like people like Charm Hole are dogshit trolls who contribute nothing of value, and other people who might have very similar ideas or values, like the blonde proradical guy, at least is advancing his views in good faith, I don't agree with like anything he said, but he's clearly trying to be a good contributor. Moderation that's competent and some structure could really get a lot out of the panelists, but Prime is 100% incompetent, clearly

[@readneuromancerbywilliamgi6761]

It's truly no wonder that history repeats itself. I kinda thought we realized like hundreds of years ago, that slogans and rallying cries for political change only gain traction and only are effective when you can say the slogan and have it be widely understood. If someone can take away a meaning from your slogan that requires you to go into this indignant frustrated response where you start trying to explain your own personal and subjective 'context' where you go on to describe a concept that basically ends up contradicting the slogan entirely, it's not a good slogan and you should find a better one. You end up seeming more like a liar who wants to run cover for champions of the slogan than someone giving a good faith clarification of what it means. One perfect example of it from this summer was the Defund the Police slogan, and the incessant tweets and media where individuals will provide this head-in-the-clouds definition for *what it really means* then you turn on the TV and you see a rally in Minnesota where Ilhan Omar is being met with huge cheers from the crowd as she shouts that the Minnesota PD must be literally and explicitly dismantled entirely. Yet you don't ever see any of these people call her out who were trying to 'clarify' the meaning as something else entirely. It makes them look like either a liar or speaking out of their rear end and looking stupid.

[@melissa2816]

Omg that moment where all these panelists have their hands up because Prime keeps yelling at people to "Shut the f*ck up!" when they want to speak at the debate HE'S moderating was priceless 🤣

[@beatleswithaz6246]

Whenever Prime speaks everyone goes quiet because Prime can mute. When Destiny is speaking it is always to the tune of 5 other lefties trying to get their two cents in.

[@ANudderYTuber]

1 is a moderator the other isn't

[@jericho9222]

@@ANudderYTuber Well if he's a moderator then he shouldnt be participating in the debate in the 1st place

[@deeku.4009]

@@ANudderYTuber Oh fuck, no way? Fuck bro, thank god we have you to point this out to us. Fucking Christ almighty.

[@nicholasburge9594]

Destiny doesn't need the advantage though 😂😂 these scrubs are playing with fire trying to interrupt him

[@IronDoctorChris]

In fairness, that seems to be the only way to get a word in on these giant panels

[@Hiro6543]

Prime: "Im only gonna use ACAB rhetoric for audiences who already agree with it." Meanwhile, this video, where he espouses ACAB, is going to be seen by tons of people who don't agree with him, and he's in the presence of people who don't agree with him.

[@dbz287]

Omfg what is wrong with prime. He’s never been THIS bad omfg now he’s actually playing tough with everyone

[@blinkanddie3397]

Yeah agreed I think it's only started recently. I think he'll realise sooner or later, I don't think he's trying to be obnoxious. He's just enjoying himself haha

[@semimad100]

hes been getting worse for like the last month. its like his brain broke and he no longer cared about trying to actually moderating and is acting more like a server admin who just wants to abuse his power. deff has been annoying. i cant believe people still show up for these.

[@michaelvanderwal7390]

Can someone track how much time he talks in a forum he's just supposed to be moderating?

[@travisalexphoto]

I agree. I think that there are times when I like that Prime speaks up on his own panals, but this one ain't it. He needed to take his own advice on this one.

[@TheYoungestMillennial]

Saw your comment was thinking “ hmm he’s not that bad wonder what they talking bout” Then 23:08 reminded me why I don’t follow him 😅

[@Donatoni]

Dude I can't... Some how I made it an hour into this conversation/debate/whatever this is suppose to be and I'm literally getting dumber by the second. I swear three-quarters of this panel hasn't seen grass in a month and thinks Twitters the real world. Either way, props to you for sticking around I guess lol

[@glendavis2841]

Prime was rude, negative, condescending, whatever you want to label it as. This didnt feel like a debate so much as someone abusing their position to look important, powerful or right. Good luck sustaining panels when you treat your peers like this. Steven should start his own panels imho.

[@glendavis2841]

Though people do love to watch this kind of toxic display so... victory?

[@MiBasse]

It's increasingly frustrating that Prime is using these things as his own soap box rather than actually try to moderate the participants.

[@tonjolley6422]

Yes. Agreed.

[@TheDirtyFritz]

He clearly hosts these just to feed his ego

[@stoneagealienz874]

imagine if dylan burns would have been the moderater.

[@kennikia2234]

Also he has a bad habit of bringing on 100 people so no one can finish a point with everyone else wanting to chime in. Limit the panel to 6 guests max, ideally less.

[@DotAzam]

Prime seems like trying to enforce the idea that people need to respect him, and to be honest at the point nobody really gives a fuck since he's not playing the moderator role anymore at the point. If you're going to moderate a discussion but also chime in your positions and opinions what's the point? You're just gonna get offended when people start treating you like the other panellists and start debating/disagreeing with you and you threaten with "this is my show i can do whatever i like"

[@korudodragoon1]

like a child

[@RaffleSnaffle20]

You can't demand anyone's respect and it's childish

[@RaffleSnaffle20]

@@andrewraby8008 yep. Especially if you are already treating others like children lol

[@funsterkeyven]

It's my party and I'll cry if i want to, cry if I want to

[@TEHSOULREAPER]

Prime needs to decide if he’s a moderator or a participant, if he’s the former then he needs to stop interrupting debate to give his opinion, and if he’s the latter then he needs to silence people way less. Kinda feels like prime vs everyone else most of the time

[@InfernoVor]

Yeah. Like if he participates he should either play devil's advocate for both sides of be a lot more subdued. Either that or stop hosting, unless he is going for bloodbath type debates...

[@MIKEaddictedtoYT]

How do people not realize that people just respond worse to a slogan that attacks a group of people rather than a slogan that defends a group of people..

[@linenist1900]

Mostly for shock value imo

[@TheFatalcrest]

Because they are the ones using it so clearly its okay.

[@mandatoryusername6844]

It's insane how much more articulate and lucid Destiny is compared to the rest of the panel.

[@sanield2782]

In my admittedly limited and anecdotal experience, every single time I've tried to explain to a left leaning normie what ACAB and Defund "really means" or whatever, it's made them extremely defensive and hesitant to agree, despite them usually entirely agreeing with most if not all of the more specific points of needed reforms. It was through these conversations that I've come to feel that these slogans are almost entirely detrimental in that sort of context.

[@xXWorldgamefunXx]

The same goes for feminist concepts like privilege, toxic masculinity and patriarchy. People would be on board if we'd just rebrand these concepts and lay off the image of hating masculinity/men.

[@saggypantsandsquats460]

"All men"

[@AnimeFan9833]

@@xXWorldgamefunXx I heavily disagree here. Words like "privilege" or "patriarchy" are neither inaccurate nor inappropriate. The only reason people get so ass mad about them is because they've been heavily propagandized to by some dudebro on youtube. They aren't political slogans that we can just drop whenever it's not optically viable, they're academic terms that describe real social

[@oliverpolo1]

@@AnimeFan9833 I hardcore disagree on patriarchy. Patriarchy sounds like society is controlled entirely by men when the point of patriarchy is to explain how women and men are enforced into their seperate gender roles. Toxic masculinity is a part of the patriarchy that targets men by saying that men shouldnt have external emotional responses, they should be 'the man' of the house, they cannot be assaulted (especially by women), and so on. Patriarchy as an expression just feeds into the anti-feminist 'feminism is misandry' and makes it much easier for the opposition to just point at a talking point and say feminism bad. The one way patriarchy as a term does makes sense is that the gender role forced on women enforces some subservience to men, but A. this probably isn't the main problem of feminism and the patriarchy, atleast anymore, and B. is just a subset of what, my understanding of, patriarchy actually is.

[@bigboy2217]

@@AnimeFan9833 No it's because people don't think of themselves as classes they think of themselves as individuals. Patriachy, or where there's a heirarchy men are placed above, implies that I as a man have an innate advantage to me when you talk to me about it. Privilege works the same. I understand the concepts of men and women as classes but it's hard to actually discuss it when it's only interjected to invalidate my personal opinions. Like if I say I'm having a hard time economically and people start telling me I'm white and male it doesn't accomplish anything. Even if on average men have more money, I can still be poor now and for the rest of my life, so my opinions on the struggle of poverty should still count for something. The what is it guy was correct here because the OP was saying it was his anecdotal experience, hence the reply agreeing with it is also talking about his experience. It's their *experience* that these terms are misused in a way that damages their context. Dudebros didn't enter acedemia to learn about toxic masculinity, screaking man haters used it rudely enough that the word adopted a bad connotation.

[@DylanBurnsTV]

hair saves the day once again

[@LiiRAE.]

Can you please teach prime how to moderate

[@SDY274]

Will you be my king?

[@watulooknat770]

SAVE US

[@emzkoe3904]

Awww Dylan doesn't have a checkmark? :(

[@akikoivunoksa635]

Agreed, hair length and lush directly correlate with effectiveness

[@janold0808]

I really really don't like that prime is the referee but at the same time he's participating in the panel... It's very weird

[@prophetesskarol5754]

Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God showed to me a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding on to them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford to these motherless foundation (DIVINE MERCY ORPHANAGE HOME FOUNDATION) in Edo State Nigeria, before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact where ever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Contact or WhatsApp the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details [phone] tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.

[@Pineapple_Predator]

Wow Prime getting assmad at someone telling him not to laugh is the biggest cringe I've seen on this panel.

[@nokiot9]

Federalizing the police force into a single entity is the fastest way to make America a police state. It may be easier to democratically control but by the same virtue it’s easier to corrupt

[@nokiot9]

@@Sue_Me_Too yeah supremacy clause is stupid. Whenever it’s invoked it should just automatically force the supreme courts hand to a decision instead of just railroading the state.

[@elfboy676]

It always feels like Prime is on the cusp of arguing in bad faith. "Destiny always puts words in my mouth"

[@elfboy676]

Nevermind. I 100% believe that Prime uses his platform to argue in bad faith a lot of times. I understand that it is his platform, but if his stance on certain issues is "I don't care about your opinion, this is what matters and I am not going to allow you to properly give your argument," what is the point of having a, supposedly, open panel to talk about these issues. No one ever said he couldn't use his platform to say ACAB, but as soon as people tried to explain why it wasn't effective it was "You don't understand my argument" and "This is my platform, I'll do what I want"

[@italianwaffle5592]

Is it just me, or did prime genuinely seem unhinged at moments? Like hardcore power tripping.

[@looperscooper3339]

@@elfboy676 prime always goes back to “strawmanning,” I really don’t think he knows what it means

[@HP-sq2fp]

@@italianwaffle5592 it definitely wasn’t just you, there were so many wtf moments where I was like what is wrong with this guy??

[@KittenIgnition]

@@elfboy676 he's not bad faith, he's just stupid. he hasn't established his opinions fully and is just parroting ones he's heard other people use and defends them vehemently. surface-level bullshit, yet he thinks he's a fucking genius. he should stick to shutting up on these panels and only piping up when too many people speak over each other. honestly it's shocking how quickly he went from a decent moderator to abusing his position on his own show. the first one of these i watched, he did a very good job. then he slowly started interjecting his own opinion and shutting everyone else up who dare try and get a word in edgewise.

[@powercore2000]

Can we officially claim this is the mega panel arc? because Destiny seems to be doing these with increasing frequency. Not that it's a bad thing when he chimes in it remind me of the godstiny hot seat days.

[@CalKon87]

agreed make it official

[@JA-nl9el]

History repeats itself

[@elicious7574]

He is probably trying to reach put to a larger audience by getting on panels where ppl outside of his community are watching

[@hanksenpai9125]

@@elicious7574 These panels draw in about 100-300 views he does these panels because he is bored.

[@elephantman2854]

@@hanksenpai9125 prime's does, but I think the others combined dont

[@nathandotson6350]

Somebody hears the facts and changes there mind, I didn't even realize that was possible anymore.

[@azathoth4237]

Witnessing deradicalization in action

[@nathandotson6350]

@@azathoth4237 Amazin

[@riteshyeddu]

@@nathandotson6350 amazin’!!

[@holoesheit5497]

Smh didn't even stick to her guns and dig the heals in. Not even a leftie. Probably hates black people!!!

[@nathandotson6350]

@@holoesheit5497 probably a grifter, no real leftie would ever change there opinions 😠

[@EvODrHan]

"Radicals platformed Joe Biden. . . Radicals pushed Joe Biden into office" An error has occurred and Destiny.exe has crashed.

[@frunkaf3314]

holy shit Prime is going full Napoleon with these panels. How many times did he tell everyone to stfu when he's talking and lambast someone while screaming "This is my platform!"

[@arabiannights5301]

Asmon should moderate these panels

[@TheSandwichmann]

I ate an amazing Nutella sandwich with rustic wheat bread and cutted slices of banana! To make this I heated my pan using medium high heat! From here I placed my bread until toasted for roughly 2 minutes! I personally used rustic wheat bread, but you can use ciabatta bread as an alternative! Once both pieces are toasted, spread the nutella on both pieces, arrange the slices of banana, on one piece, then place the second one on top to place it all together and there you go! I hope you all get to eat a really good sandwich as well!

[@JustCallMeCeles]

Abortion sandwich. When.

[@damianflett6360]

Thank you! I think political violence would be justified against you for your advocation of Nutella on sandwiches!

[@WanderTheNomad]

I personally don't prefer rust on my bread. :^)

[@rreeeekk]

I made microwave baked potatoes today and ngl it was pretty based!

[@FacetiousEnigma]

Instructions unclear. Which side of the toasted bread slice do I coat with Nutella?

[@Jinkaza1882]

I love how the tyrant comes out in the host from time to time. I hope none of these people ever get power over any institution.

[@Jinkaza1882]

but really, some software developer has had to of made a better program for large forum discussion panels. A simple "rise hand" icon over each person and a timer to let the host who has been waiting the longest. Then they can bring people in and out would smooth this over, and reduce the vox-melee these always turn into.

[@CrestOfArtorias]

@@Jinkaza1882 You mean like teams? :D Yeah I have my issues with the theory of socialism but I understand the appeal. However, what really keeps me from considering is are the socialists I have talked to for the last 20 years. I don't want any of these people in power, not a single one. I wouldn't trust them with my dog for an afternoon, let alone control over society.

[@Jinkaza1882]

@@CrestOfArtorias Agreed. The appeal is real, and I can take it back to the protos in 1800s and see it there too. Mostly monarchical governments with rapidly growing industrial sectors that will leave the peasants in the dust. In walks this ideology that says it will help change the system to level out the disparities. What underclass or minority would not say, "Cool, where do I sign up?". It is captivating, and wrong. We do not owe the labour of other humans. Socialism of all varieties requires the state to lay claim to peoples labour for the benefit of the whole of society. I disagree with that. Peace and liberty to ya.

[@zaatas]

I mean, we already live in a society where the government taxes your income and spends that on other citizens with less. Are you against programs that provide food and healthcare for the poor? So I guess what I'm saying is most people are okay with some level of redistribution, its just where you want to draw the line. For me personally, if we have the means to provide a basic human need to people that need it, and those with the means aren't addressing it properly, you need a system that aims to solve them. Mind you, we don't live in an world with infinite resources, so we can't just let one person control everything. You agree with that right? If you agree with that, what is the acceptable level of ownership over all the resources? Two people? Three?

[@markallen6433]

@@Jinkaza1882 @CrestOfArtorias in regards to the socialism issue, the problem with this individualism argument you're making is that you aren't self made, not even close. No where near it to be frank. You benefit from countless generations building up technological and social tools which are entirely necessary for modern life. You can't owe the past in a practical fashion, so there is no sense in paying license fees to Shakespeare for his part in developing modern English, or the dead Arabs and Greeks for developing math. What you can do is agree that you're both a beneficiary and, well we hope, a contributor, and only by paying into communal systems that maintain and advance those benefits does it make sense for you to benefit from those vast resources that you didn't earn. Now that isn't an argument for a specific policy. You also get to be a part of the conversation we collectively have about how you pay into it and what's fair, but this "I don't owe nobody nothing," sentiment is a childish tantrum. Doesn't mean fiscal taxes are the only way to pay in to the system though, so it's a very flexible conversation. You just need to start from a place of gratitude and responsibility in some sense

[@Jankyito]

Comparing blm to acab is a false comparison. Blm is a positive, saying these people matter. Acab is a negative saying these people are garbage. It is a very important distinction.

[@tetraquil]

That one panelist was basically arguing "extremists are good because they make everyone else look more reasonable by comparison". That's not an argument _for_ extremism, it's an argument against it. It's completely counterproductive to that entire argument to be literally using that point to argue _for_ extremism. They don't seem to understand that using that argument _requires_ that you start with the premise that the extreme position is unreasonable. When they started citing Trump's art of the deal, I just checked out completely.

[@TheFreshTrumpet]

Agreed 100%. It’s such a great example of people committing to a conclusion and then finding any twisted logic to defend it.

[@swaggitypigfig8413]

Memes aside, Steven is a golden voice of reason on the left. Kudos.

[@AyleidCraft]

@Lydia there isn’t a single soul worth saving in those comment sections.

[@CalKon87]

@@AyleidCraft wow chill

[@swaggitypigfig8413]

@@AyleidCraft TRUE

[@njm2699]

@Lydia noooooooooo you’re bringing back so much horrible memories :(

[@idunno402]

Can we please acknowledge the good Steven has done without needing to worship him? It gives me "I don't pre-order, except for cyberpunk" vibes.

[@maxwellleatherman]

Wow... I've been skeptical about Prime as a moderator based on the last several panels (shitshows) of his I've seen, but this one really is on a whole new level. He nakedly abuses his status as the discussion host to basically act as a panelist that can mute other panelists, meanwhile completely neglecting his assumed duties as "moderator" unless he's trying to create space for himself ("shut up, shut up shut up or I'll mute you!") so he can impotently stumble his way through whatever point he's trying to make at his discretion. Before I just wrote it off as incompetence/inexperience, but now this just seems gross...

[@prophetesskarol5754]

Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God showed to me a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding on to them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford to these motherless foundation (DIVINE MERCY ORPHANAGE HOME FOUNDATION) in Edo State Nigeria, before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact where ever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Contact or WhatsApp the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details [phone] tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.

[@bobDotJS]

Is Prime lacking so much self-awareness that he doesn't understand how it looks when he's on a power-trip with a shit take.

[@Demos_Jeff]

“Different rhetoric for different audiences” falls apart when ALL audiences can just look it up and see you going mask off on this radical shit. Now the people are mad because you’ve basically insulted their intelligence and are pretty much lying to them.

[@holyflygon]

"radicals were pushing for biden over trump" WHAT???? since fucking when all radicals did was complain about biden and even some said trump was better then biden. DESTINY himself even debated a person who said trump is better for LGBTQA+ people then biden...

[@monkeybudge]

“The REALITY is....” “The REALITY is....” “The REALITY is....” “The REALITY is....”

[@TriFekt]

Yeah he was pretty cringe.

[@theafflictionvhs17]

The reality is that in reality this truly is our reality but sometimes reality isn’t truly reality even though reality has always been reality…

[@ant3k971]

Feel like ACAB is something to be defended by an edgy kid or a repeat criminal not people that try to be serious about "debate" and changing people minds. This is madness...

[@prophetesskarol5754]

Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God showed to me a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding on to them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford to these motherless foundation (DIVINE MERCY ORPHANAGE HOME FOUNDATION) in Edo State Nigeria, before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact where ever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Contact or WhatsApp the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details [phone] tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you..

[@splashmok]

@@prophetesskarol5754 what

[@sfp2290]

@@splashmok I think he said "Please send money to this place."

[@ToughSailor31]

Let me guess, Prime is the worst part of the video again?

[@rreeeekk]

34:20

[@ToughSailor31]

@@rreeeekk that's part of the problem. these 100 people panels are hectic enough, the last thing it needs is a moderator with a god complex that feels the need to participate in the discussion as well.

[@dbz287]

The thing I hate most about lefties is they are always so socially inept. Prime is a PRIME example of that.

[@ToughSailor31]

@@dbz287 Can you imagine if someone spoke to you IRL how Prime speaks to people on these panels?

[@evolution__snow6784]

@@ToughSailor31 mute them

[@LonnyH]

Prime is getting to the point that he's insufferable as a host. I may stop watching these. You can't mute people interrupting you and then let a gang of others interrupt people who disagree with you. If you're gonna moderate, just moderate, dude.

[@zoruxma]

Child: "Can we have Scuffed Podcast?" Parent: "We have Scuffed Podcast at home!" Scuffed Podcast at home:

[@dumpsterdog879]

I'm watching this as another scuffed podcast is live and once again destiny isn't there :(

[@Oguido]

Why is Prime so Power Crazed. Chill out dude.

[@TreehouseINC]

Prime is an amazing moderator until you poke him and disagree even an inch and then he spergs out and tweaks all over his supporters edit : until a hype train shows up

[@jaybayer3670]

I don't understand. Does he want to be a moderator or a debator. You can't do both, especially not to the extent that prime takes it to. It's one thing to give your 2¢, but it literally just revolves around him sometimes. I still really love his passion but he needs to change how he operates these panels. And he obviously picks favorites and let's them have more talking time.

[@Valkeryu]

@@jaybayer3670 i think he takes more space in the "royale" format sessions where there are a very large amount of people present. he probably gets too heated but i dont think he necessarily needs to step out of the discussion necessarily.

[@jaybayer3670]

@@Valkeryu well I just mean him specifically lol. Other mods could be in the discussion but I just don't think he himself cant do it without losing it.

[@Valkeryu]

@@jaybayer3670 we're both talking about cayes... i wasn't making a general statement about mods. he probably doesn't apply it consistently enough but in a 12 person call if someone's trying to get a point across, whether it's him or someone else, i think being assertive in telling everyone else to shut the fuck up isn't totally out of place

[@thelaughingman4791]

I'd be pissed if I was invited on to what is supposed to be a panel just to be muted so that the moderator can debate destiny

[@theafflictionvhs17]

_Whilst giving embarrassing takes._

[@Bolaniullen]

omg he's getting mad because hes laughing as someone is talking and they tell him not to laugh. what an obnoxious person, seriously

[@Bolaniullen]

and now hes mad because he missed the point of what she was trying to say which is be polite and don't mock me as im speaking and his little brain made itself confused and angry. seriously what a douche i can't stand this idiot

[@Finigini]

These are painful, but I can't stop listening

[@eddiebernays514]

"Let me have a panel with 10 people where I tell everyone to stfu while I talk" this is the type of dude to get into power and be a psycho.

[@Phil.Anthropy]

Holy hell prime show some damn restraint, this is the worst moderation I've seen in a long time gets pissed off when nobody will let him finish his point, but barely lets anyone finish their point before he interjects more. he reminds me of those people that are just waiting for their turn to talk instead of listening.

[@NorthAyase]

Wait, you've seen worst moderation than this?

[@Phil.Anthropy]

@@NorthAyase did I say that?

[@NorthAyase]

@@Phil.Anthropy Guess not, more accurately you'd be saying you've seen someone at least as bad.

[@Phil.Anthropy]

@@NorthAyase no... That there was a high water mark previously set that was abhorrent and this blew it out the water. But I can see how my lack of grammar helped you there. Be well

[@johngreene8510]

Prime is what we call, judge jury and executioner. He should take moderator lessons from when destiny moderated trihex vs ahrelevent. Make sure the convo stays on track. Dont keep participating in the debate

[@YemYum]

i just need a 1v1 vs prime so he doesnt hide behind "lol youre straw-maning me" without being challenged on it or when he has someone do the heavy lifting for him when debating. He always finds a way to hide

[@322aareyn]

its hard to tell if Prime is actually smart or not because he is horrible at speaking. I am inclined to believe he isnt very logically consistent but maybe he just has trouble verbalizing his opinions

[@jroc397]

@@322aareyn prime isn’t smart

[@322aareyn]

@@jroc397 yeah I mean he doesn't seem so based on how he presents himself on panels but maybe he's more articulate IRL. Either way he's a trash moderator

[@maciejogrocke470]

Primes complaining "I can say I want on my own show" Is the most cringe thing ever. I need to stop watching or I would die from the cringe.

[@Doomed667]

Prime : "Are people literally asking me to get on the scuffed podcast?" Unaware.

[@prophetesskarol5754]

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[@Blankace.]

I miss Asmongold moderating debates, he actually did a good job and tried to add to discussion in order to get peeoples points across.

[@powercore2000]

That was a solid convo. U get why he stays away from the politics panels tho.

[@japanesemangos6372]

Wow you don’t like it when the moderators stop the conversation to comment on their level 2 sub train????

[@legin777]

Wasn't Destiny recently on that one conservative panel? I remember that mod being really good at managing the convo.

[@mickeyboy90]

@@legin777 jesse lee peterson best moderator confirmed.

[@powercore2000]

@@legin777 The Drunken Debates one, with Lecture Fan. That was pain tho, since he only had one other liberal, and they weren't the best orator.

[@mugenfan123]

jesus christ prime is the worst moderator in the world.

[@the500mphtortoise]

plus 15 people in a panel is too many

[@unitedfools3493]

One day Prime Cayes is going to work out what audio ducking is and he will never mute anyone again.

[@moneypowertron]

wait how would ducking work here?

[@AnimeFan9833]

I don't get it

[@63Limar]

@@moneypowertron you quack hard enough until everyone shuts up.

[@WhatTheFrogDoing]

@@moneypowertron he can make his pc lower everyone else's volume when he speaks, which is what he wants

[@restlesswyld3387]

He asked where radical left-wing activists caused severe harm and Destiny replied "MLK riots", when there are much better examples. Let me list them: Soviet Union North Korea Pol Pot Cuba Maoist China Robert Mugabe

[@zacharychristy8928]

"If you don't care about getting moderates on your side to advance your cause then you dont actually care about your cause as much as LARPing on the internet." God damn what a slam dunk.

[@quarterd50]

Prime still the worse host of any panel by far. Just invites people on so he has people to talk to and then spends more time talking then his guest.

[@prophetesskarol5754]

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[@quarterd50]

@@prophetesskarol5754 thanks

[@xaositectz]

this host is getting more and more annoying. not only he is unable to talk well, his argumentation game is also very weak and he seems to go doing long monologues that nobody finds interesting or convincing. bro you're the moderator let other people speak. I just started scrolling through whenever he speaks.

[@semimad100]

yeah, hes been getting worse lately for sure. not only using the fact that its his panel totalk more then everyone but, also interupting to change subjects when something interesting is actually starting. or just cutting people off randomly

[@asdf-op9lr]

yeah i totally agree. do you think he has some form of adhd? he loses his train of thought all the time and misspeaks idk. maybe he has adhd. but yeah it is really shitty of him to mute everyone and to do a 5 monologue just because he is the host imo

[@xaositectz]

@@asdf-op9lr nope I think he is just generally not a good speaker and debater, like most other people, but he thinks he is. anyway this isn't even a problem when he is one of the panelists since good points can be gotten across even this way, but now he seems to be on a bit of a power trip and he needs to learn how to be a good host/moderator. I remember people who only hosted once for fun like Asmongold were way better than him.

[@arabiannights5301]

@@xaositectz Asmon is unironically a great host from what I've seen, he actually asks interesting questions and remains uninvolved in the arguing.

[@xaositectz]

@@arabiannights5301 yeah he was really good

[@Eval999]

#NotMyDrK

[@DrNK11111]

Yeah, for real, who is this guy?

[@sebastiencaron-roy2426]

Was pretty disappointed with Prime this time around. He consistently refused to let people respond to their points, dismissing them as simply having to get other people in there despite spending large amounts of time explaining himself. By the way, Destiny, I've been permanently banned from your subreddit since the Kenosha days for making an argument that responsibility ultimately fell on Destiny for what he said. I'm sorry for posting that, and I won't suggest shit like that in the future. Is there any chance I can re-participate in your subreddit at some point? Thanks, -Sebastien

[@instinct7624]

Prime can't be both a participant and a moderator at the same time. He ends up monopolizing the space.

[@KentTallKid]

Prime is getting worse and worse at moderating these, he needs to lower the number of people to like a max of 8 and he needs to let people talk more. If he wants to have a one on one convo with Destiny, just schedule it, don't make the other 13 people sit around while you and Destiny argue.

[@cratoic1603]

I think Primecayes should get someone to take over as moderator as he somehow always finds himself speaking more than some of the other panelists; on his own show. Also, what's the point of getting all these people together if Prime is just going to talk over them the majority of the time anyway?

[@Macwylee]

How is it helpful to have this many people on a debate?

[@onlyeveryone2253]

Prime has pretty much said he does not care about the effect of the debate. He just want the numbers.

[@BananaJoe6100]

Primecayes has to be the most insufferable recurring character in the Destiny show

[@jameschurch9618]

What’s prime’s deal?? It seems like he’s realizing what he’s saying is dumb in real time and he doesn’t know how to react😂

[@Avenger222]

And then walking it back and pretending it was his position the entire time.

[@kingsmanonv37]

This was literally just panel vs prime. His moderation was pretty bad this time

[@spacetoast7783]

This time?

[@albertjohnston1026]

@@spacetoast7783 I like Prime's debates and such usually, but this was _extremely_ rough.

[@jeezyyplays6234]

He was being a massive dick here lol

[@DosiriTV]

what do you mean this time? It's always been bad

[@joppekim]

This is the first time I'm screaming at the MODERATOR to let them finish their point, he interrupts like crazy, and mutes people when he is making a point? Wtf.

[@hallo-mt5tx]

holy shit i laughed out loud when prime said "people ask me to go on the scuffed podcast" after going off on the girl

[@AnimeFan9833]

SQUADW BROTHA

[@awaister]

What’s the meme behind that scuffed podcast thing ?

[@Gylfiee]

@@awaister People jokingly associate the Scuffed Podcast with misogyny a lot, because of the controversies its host has been involved in concerning sexism.

[@kiptelgat]

time stamp?

[@awaister]

@@Gylfiee Lol ok now that makes sense, I didn't know train was involved with those types of controversies like he can be a meat head sometimes but he doesn't seem like an actual bad guy

[@OhMyGoshua]

Also the idea that people shouldn't "tone police" someone who is says ACAB just because they have personally had a bad experience is so fucking brain dead. Lets just walk that reasoning over to racists who go hard against blacks as a whole because they had a bad experience with a black person. Identity politics bad.

[@dmvbawse4265]

Most of these people don’t and have never lived in bad areas. The same ones who talk about abolishing the police are the same ones who won’t hesitate to call them if something happens.

[@Winasaurus]

Nothing better than a bunch of far left white guys in california/LA talking about how the police are the worst and should be abolished because he got a speeding ticket in his dads car, and calling a guy who lives in a shit area like detroit who has had his house burgled 3 times and 2 cars stolen that HE is the bad guy for wanting the police.