Detroit Pistons' Trade Deadline: Will Cade Cunningham Influence Moves?

[@cashflo502]

I'm excited because the national media is starting to recognize how good Cade is. This will lead to more trips to the free throw line.

[@AnthonyJones-j6g]

Facts

[@unclesam6972]

Yup but Cade not used to getting calls so he doesn’t have to rely on them 😂

[@kingdomthinker9794]

​@@unclesam6972 You're missing the point bro. Is recognition is going to give him an advantage as well as bringing more free agents that I want to play here. It's called leverage.

[@TheandY408]

I was about to say "we shouldn't care" until I saw the second sentence

[@unclesam6972]

@@kingdomthinker9794 nah you’re missing the point lol… he wasn’t spoiled early so he will get the calls now and his prime. He still deserves them and it will add to his ppg

[@DOT.CASH2]

Cade’s, a complete basketball player! We’re lucky to have him..👍🏾

[@ndnghostkeeper7216]

Its dope seeing the locked on knicks acknowledge how good cade is, they were just in awe

[@360will7]

We don’t need any new player this season, let’s see how far we can go with the current roster, the chemistry is getting better and better with each game.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

And then watch Hardaway, Beasley, and Reed walk away getting nothing in return and struggling to get free agents to sign here? No, it’s time to make a move for either players or picks.

[@360will7]

@@cordelldemattei5446 they could signed those players to an extension right now. If not it’s time for the bench to step up.

[@DylanWolfram14]

We must re-sign Malik Beasley

[@AnthonyJones-j6g]

Facts

[@matthewharrison8531]

I mean holy shit.

[@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures]

Non tax mid level exemption

[@lurking0death]

Twould be wise, fo sho.

[@pheralanpathfinder4897]

I want to keep Beasley but we have several holes in the rotation. Deciding which to fill will be tough

[@yabu79]

Ausar lover here too! And I think Ausar is the wild card here if the Pistons will be able to sustain this winning basketball. JB has done a good job for him to push the ball off a rebound which makes the opponent's defense to scramble and not set. That's what actually helps the team by not settling in the half court offense too much with Ivey out. What's limiting Ausar playing time right now especially in crunch time is his shooting. I think JB do not want to risk Ausar taking free throws. But from what I noticed these past few games, Ausar seems to get his confidence in his shooting knocking down 3's on a broken play and being able to convert his free throws against the Knicks.

[@thasdeep]

great interview insights that we never heard b4

[@jackbrown1703]

I listen to the pod everyday but i try to come here and throw you a like

[@gzelambeezy]

*First Half Season Takeaways* Surface level analysis: Multi-millionaire basketball players that belong to the Pistons are finally taking every game seriously - it's as if someone reminded them that they make 10's of millions to be PROFESSIONAL athletes. Effort has been unquestioned on most nights with little-to-no FanDuel manipulation being exuded. Deeper level analysis: Last year was an outlier in the negative direction and we're right on pace for what we should be at this juncture - The current Pistons are an average talent modern NBA team with 1 top 25 player - the team only needs to 'play hard' to appear competitive. Beasley and THJ have been the most important Piston additions since Blake Griffin - let that sink in(both above league average true shooting). In fact, id argue that the Pistons, as currently constructed, are a grade above the best Griffin-Drummond-Jackson Pistons. 6-seed is obtainable as constructed - no trades necessary. Not sure that theres a trade out there that would 'guarantee' a higher seed.

[@yabu79]

Hunter is the 🔑

[@lurking0death]

The Pistons are probably going to have to buy some talent at some point. They need an All-star level PF, a defensive tall center, another perimeter shooter. Sasser can become more useful if he improves his handles and becomes our Brunson, our Vinnie microwave.

[@scottwickett1273]

They need another star too; that's a lot of needs!

[@lurking0death]

@@scottwickett1273 Sure is. I don't think they are going to finish at 500 with this crew.

[@scottwickett1273]

@@lurking0death Yes it is still a garbage roster other than Cade, and Duren in particular is one of the most harmfully damaging rotation players anywhere in the league. The one thing they have going for them (other than having Cade on the team) is that Langdon does seem to understand just hope hopelessly fucked their personnel situation really is.

[@Guyver313]

Cade will be on NBA Today. Detroit Sports on the rise

[@jamariburt3908]

Honestly IMO I think they shouldn't do anything, the chemistry has been building with this team, majority of the players are happy and wants to be there. So why ruined something that's working. we fans and the entire Piston Organization goal for this team was to work for the Play-In and find players to work around Cade and it looks like the team is getting well with working with him and that's leading them to be playoff contenders instead. Let's enjoy these Brand New Detroit teams this seasons.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

Because THJ, Beasley, and Reed are all on expiring contracts that have trade value now. If we don’t trade them we will lose them and it has been tough getting FAs to sign here. If we re-sign them then they aren’t good trade values any more and we will be mid, at best, forever. The situation is prime to trade for either assets or players.

[@jamariburt3908]

@ maybe assets because I don’t think he’s going to try to fix something that is already working

[@cordelldemattei5446]

@@jamariburt3908 well, you would have to move some guys to get those assets as well.

[@TheandY408]

Hey I'm also a bay area pistons fan

[@classic76]

Man...these Michigan winters are really mild nowadays. LoL

[@kingusopp943]

Cam Johnson!

[@Guyver313]

I was high on Cade and this Squad. As an 80's fan. No trade. No crazy trade, who will we lose. let see what happened this year.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

You would not have picked up Rasheed and won in 2004

[@MrTonyJ]

What if Detroit uses the cap space to acquire assets that are immediately flipped for help?

[@scottwickett1273]

Interesting! It might also just be a three-team trade.

[@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures]

It's about how high we finish, it's about getting talent while it's available. It's not often a guy like Cam becomes available at this price.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

Or Zion

[@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures]

@@cordelldemattei5446 Not denying the talent, but his lack of professionalism scares me.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

@ that’s the high risk. Maybe he just needs a change of venue. I’ve heard reports he didn’t ever want to be in New Orleans. Bring him in and set him up with a vet mentor like Beasley. Do you remember what was thought of Rasheed with the Blazers?

[@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures]

@@cordelldemattei5446 true. But his health and weight issues concerns me too. I know, no one can guarantee health.

[@jeramibanks3276]

We need another P Forward Tobias is not getting younger and would be great off the bench.

[@michaelahurt]

That's why we drafted Ron Holland. And Bobi Klintman.

[@shannondonaldson9798]

Secondary ball handler without mortgaging the future, if it’s not possible stand pat.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

@@shannondonaldson9798 could have done that all season if Trajan felt it was a priority.

[@mbwell]

There is nothing really out there that wouldn’t disrupt chemistry. As a result, the Pistons should put a hold on all transactions for now.

[@scottwickett1273]

They are eventually going to need more than one (1) good player, I'm just saying.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

So, stay mid forever. Not my favored solution

[@chessready7252]

Why Hunter look like a light skin Ron Holland lol

[@Almp7]

Dang... Got here at the end.... JA RED GOFF JA RED GOFF JA RED GOFF

[@mbwell]

*1957*

[@cordelldemattei5446]

@@mbwellwhich is why people are so excited.

[@AnthonyJones-j6g]

We should try to get witmore jabri or Eason from Houston they trading one of them

[@cordelldemattei5446]

What are you willing to send their way to beat out other suitors?

[@AnthonyJones-j6g]

@cordelldemattei5446 depends on which one they want to deal

[@cordelldemattei5446]

@@AnthonyJones-j6g it was more a question of what are we sending Houston that would be more attractive than just keeping their guy. And are you willing to give up enough from our roster to make it worth their while?

[@pheralanpathfinder4897]

Whitmore might be available. Where is the noise about Jabari coming from?

[@AnthonyJones-j6g]

@pheralanpathfinder4897 from Eason amen whitmore play rockets playing better without him

[@innovativeta5206]

We are young and winning, which is what every team craves. Keep them together this season and we'll know way more in the offseason. If we make the playoffs then we get to see who steps up and who steps back, which is huge since not all players can perform in the playoffs. We should keep Beasley and hope that he will reward that loyalty with signing here long term (He is absolute top priority). Imagine telling Cade that you traded Beasley!!! Wouldn't be a good thing. Even THJ is growing on me because as you can see, guys who can chuck up 3's and get hot at least every few games, WIN you games. I think we are winning because of Cades step forward and then we are a much better 3pt shooting team. We finally have a few guys who just constantly let it fly and hit a good percentage. Never out of a game with guys like that. Kou, I give you credit, you always said we needed floor spacers around Cade. I knew that too, but seeing it play out makes me appreciate how important that actually is.

[@michaelahurt]

As much as I love the groove Cade is in, I don't think he's shooting 46% from three the rest of the year so lets not rush it. Build like Denver, Boston and OKC. Not Minnesota, Atlanta and Indiana. Slow and steady wins the race. There are no shortcuts.

[@Nader-m1u]

Here's an idea (even though people might hate me) - Jaden Ivey + Simone Fontecchio for D'Aaron Fox. Sacramento gets its Fox replacement and Fontecchio while we get a guy who is a legit Robin to Cade who is still young. Plus, this doesn't disrupt the current team as Ivey isn't playing and Fontecchio hasn't played great but has picked it up lately. Attach whatever picks necessary, we have tons of youth. I know this is pie in the sky, but that's type of move I would try for or just stand pat and get a guy like Lonzo Ball.

[@scottwickett1273]

Why pay through the nose for a point guard when your only good player is....a point guard?!?!?

[@rickyjuuice4867]

Tek19 is the trade bait. He just kinda doesn't fit in.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

You aren’t going to get much with Tecc as bait right now.

[@AnthonyJones-j6g]

He just got to get fully healthy perfect back up 3/4

[@cordelldemattei5446]

@@AnthonyJones-j6g as long as he doesn’t dribble and his shot is dropping he’s a good backup 3/4. But he’s been hit or miss, both Ausar and Ron are better than him. I’d love to see Klintman too.

[@AnthonyJones-j6g]

@cordelldemattei5446 I agree

[@rickyjuuice4867]

@cordelldemattei5446 give me nick richards & them move Paul Weed for a pg lol

[@k.l.lamont2278]

And a PS5

[@vwhisp1394]

Lets give Tom Gore praise for getting rid of the bum coach Monty Williams.

[@kirondent4729]

The bad part is troy weaver didn't want monty

[@scottwickett1273]

@@kirondent4729 But it doesn't matter because the roster was so bad, and the roster was so bad because Weaver DID want Killian, Wiseman, Bagley, Bojan, etc.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

Gores is the one who hired him in the first place going over his GM. At least he realized his mistake and seems like he is staying hands off now b

[@TheAnimeClub1]

Try to get lonzo ball

[@anthonyleroy7795]

Do you guys think we will make a trade even with the turn-around they are on. I believe we are a player away. I wish Jimmy Butler would be a chance, but I am reaching aren't I ?

[@michaelahurt]

We are not one player away. We have a -1 net rating. We are like 3 players away.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

Ivey and Hardaway for Zion.

[@scottwickett1273]

​@@michaelahurt Four starters away, plus a backup point guard.

[@scottwickett1273]

​@@cordelldemattei5446 Still no. Stop it.

[@michaelahurt]

@@scottwickett1273 Tobias is a quality starter whether you want to admit it to yourself or not. This why you couldn't see this coming. Because of your irrational hatred of Harris (and Duren). But yes. Although I'd opt for a two way wing like Caruso or Bruce Brown over a backup PG because if you had a legit #2 (Franz, Maxey, J-Dub, etc.) he would be the "PG" in non-Cade minutes. And you wouldn't want a defensive liability like CP or Tyus Jones or Monte Morris in the playoffs anyway. Although Payton Pritchard or Ty Jerome would be nice.

[@bridgelion4968]

I think the coach should play the starters more mins similar to the Knicks so we won’t have such large swings

[@kamalwhitmore2750]

The one and only😂😂😢😢👎🏾

[@astrahl]

Starting this year. How many championships in a row do you think we will win Ku? I’m saying probably 8-9

[@rickyjuuice4867]

How you get the job not knowing who the players were?

[@rickyjuuice4867]

Black Privilege 😂🔥🔥🔥🔥😅👌🏾

[@matthewcraven3274]

You do know they hire journalists, not fans of the team.

[@SLIM0517]

Resign Beasley and grow for a year. Why push for 6th seed? Get ready for the real deal top 4 consist

[@cordelldemattei5446]

Why not make the team better if you are losing your draft pick this year anyhow?

[@deontecallaway4026]

@@cordelldemattei5446Because better players might be available in the offseason like Lauri, using assets for minimal improvement while tying up cap space is short term thinking. We can wait another 5-6 months.

[@scottwickett1273]

@@deontecallaway4026 If Lauri became available, more than ten teams could outbid the Pistons.

[@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures]

There is no such thing as a one man team.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

Did you watch early LeBron Cavaliers?😂

[@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures]

@cordelldemattei5446 and he won not a damn thing until he got help. Same goes for Jordan.

[@cordelldemattei5446]

@@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures except many playoff series and made a ton of money for him and the owner.

[@samurai-od3ls]

The Athletic couldn't find a beat writer from the region?? This guy looks so disinterested in the Pistons..

[@IAmAbundunt]

Ku, I predicted 41 wins back in the summertime, I got roasted and mocked in the comments. Some guy named Scott who said it was impossible, but I knew not to pay any attention to what happened last year,, last year was weird..Some of us already knew this was possible. Some of us aren't surprised, don't act like we didn't tell y'all... lol.... let's GO DETROIT!!!!!!

[@scottwickett1273]

We remain surprised!

[@pheralanpathfinder4897]

How many wins did you predict for Casey's last season?

[@cordelldemattei5446]

I am still surprised. Every game. Happily so.

[@michaelahurt]

To be fair 41 wins requires _A LOT_ of things to go right even _now_ let alone 4 months ago. But yeah some people put way too much stock in last year. I still don't think everyone fully appreciates how destructive Monty was. 34-38 wins seemed like a lock based on the roster and coach -- I said that going back to last April assuming Tobias would come and Monty would go -- and our SRS (-1.35) puts us right in that range. But we could get lucky and win a few more. We're already +2 vs expected W-L

[@IAmAbundunt]

@@michaelahurt To me, the Cade factor was being vastly underestimated by the majority of the analysts, and so was the overall starting lineup, Tobias, Beasley and Bickerstaff all were obvious upgrades in combination with an overrated eastern conference I think the Pistons have a better chance to achieve 41 W’s then not, they’re currently 21-15 over their past 36 games, I still think they are better than most people think

[@benniewoods711]

Don't touch this Detroit team. Period. Detroit vs Everybody

[@cordelldemattei5446]

With that attitude we never would have won the 2004 Championship