Dev Chat Day 1: Javascript vs Typescript

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00:00 Apartment tour
05:45 Dev Chat introduction
06:14 Javascript vs Typescript
17:20 Typescript story
Ah, yes. The age old debate of Javascript versus Typescript. Which one should you be using for your projects as a software engineer?
Welcome to Dev Chat: a brand new series of developer focused long form hot takes. I recently got back from New Zealand while on vacation over the new year. We've just moved into our brand new apartment in New York City and you'll see a glimpse of its bare bones (I need more furniture lol).
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[@JacobSucksAtCode]

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[@jkrnz]

Excited for Dev Chat, it sounds great. By the way, I have to say that I really like your videos, they are very sincere and I feel like I'm talking to a friend, and they're also motivating. Keep it up!

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

I appreciate that!

[@theblvckdev]

Love the new idea of "Dev Chat" sounds great. Good work Jacob

[@MikeTheCook]

One of the best tech-coding channels out there. I’m a beginner with almost 1 year of working experience and you helped me a lot. And I F love typescript!

[@willneve7306]

Congrats on the new space! I hope to move to New York in pursuit of my dev career, and this is a great source of motivation :D

[@lucasnijssen]

Nice video as always! ❤

[@osvaldojunior628]

Your videos make me want to develop an entire project in hours. I'm working on a project for a developer role in my company. I watch your videos before starting coding because they give me a boost to get through the bugs and challenging things hahaha. I need more videoooooss hahah (whatching from Brazil) 💚

[@birobirobiro]

Thank you for another incredible video! Know that you are a huge inspiration to me and I started producing vlogs because of you.

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

That is awesome!

[@sanjadrinic]

big thanks to KZbin's recommendation algorithm for tossing this channel my way 🥹 love the idea of Dev Chat!! greetings from Serbia 🫶🏼

[@pH7Programming]

Brilliant one Jacob 👏

[@brianruizy]

I like the video idea! Looking forward to more :)

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Thanks dude!

[@nhuthuynhminh3657]

Well after seeing this video, I can agree that Typescript is much more comfortable than Javascript, I'm not trying to say which one is better in here. It just, on current company, we're both using TS and JS for the several projects but when coming to debug (for example only), can see it's much more easier for me to do that, especially when we can define type in TS, much more easy to debug from the component, class, etc. Great video Jacob, looking forward for more topic like this

[@devyssonsc]

you're amazing man. I Love your sincerity

[@iEtorr]

Yeeesss, finally a new video, very nice to have it with some coffee and breakfast!

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Morning!

[@andywilliamb]

Loving the content my man. Absolute gold every single video! I'm like a year and a half into my development progress. Done Udemy and KZbin and I learn consistently every single day. Thought I would give in and finally try out Scrimba PRO. Absolute GAME CHANGER. Doing the Frontend Developer Path as we speak which from what I understand is what you mentioned. They recently added typescript to that course, so I am super excited to get into it. However, I'm currently stuck on callback functions and higher order functions in Javascript 🙄 Riperoni. Anyway, as always, banging content mate. 🙌

[@heatherfranco5810]

Love Dev Chat! Keep up with the great content!

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Thanks!

[@caotichcuc]

I'm looking forward to desktop in New York!

[@fluxsiarski]

Feedback; I came across your channel earlier when I was really interested in NYC. I'm a beginner in coding, this is my 7th month or so of learning (React native, JS, etc.). Today I learned about 4 hours and after this session I thought; ok enough for today. But I watched the video and I don't feel bored, exhausted or anything. I learned something new in a cool "dev chat" way. Thanks ❤️👨🏻‍💻

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Hell yeah that's great!

[@omi_khan4901]

Loved this video.

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kambam172]

I agree on the google part most of the I read articles and generic documentation. After that I apply my knowledge to my project. A lot of the time the answer is not in plain sight so seeing multiple examples and referencing documentation helps.

[@itisciprian]

Dev Chat ideea is amazing - i've just learned about Mastering the this Keyword in JavaScript and it is mind treading to understand it. Typerscript is the goal - until then - excalete with HTML, CSS, Javascript, React, Redux, Vue and the saga continues. Keep up the amazing journey buddy! 💌

[@y.dhanush3607]

Hello Jacob this video was so helpful for me. I was thinking to learn typescript but i was like i am just doing my undergrad and typescript is only for experienced people, and after seeing the video i have started learning typescript and its super fun working with it and its not at all complex as i assumed before. In the next "Dev Chat" i want you to talk about "NextJS and ReactJS" Thanks Jacob, by the way your videos are super sick!

[@benjaminirfan3646]

Love from Malaysia. You're really inspiring Jacob! Hope to be working with you one day :)

[@shipperturtle]

yr good at this format, which is not an easy format. gr8 vid

[@yashruikar2001]

I will start learning TS. Keep it up!

[@skylar12590]

Great video!!! Topic for Dev Chat....spaces versus tabs!!! Always having this debate with fellow programmers.

[@luckykristen]

Great idea, Jacob! For the next time of Dev Chat I’ll make a cup of coffee and it’s gonna be like perfect talk session about Development.🥳

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Nice!!!

[@giorgosvourkas]

Really exited for Dev Chat and also for the new crib !!! That setup will be fire 🔥

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Thanks dude!

[@ZiaCodes]

I can't think of going back from TypeScript. It helped me build projects, applications faster with less bugs and errors!

[@MrElrangel]

Hey Jacob, been here since the life of a blockchain dev but never really commented, amazing journey, keep up the great work! enjoy NY!

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Much appreciated!

[@eleazarhernandez805]

Super cool! I would say you should do a topic on Open Source vs. Not Open Source. I am a junior and as much as I like watching tutorials, I feel like I learn more from this style of video where you're sharing thoughts on topics that are informative. Thanks Jacob!

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Great suggestion!

[@SramDHills]

still learning Javascript, intermediate level. Hopefully, after I get enough confident in javascript, then proceed to Types

[@dalegdawg]

Enjoyed the dev chat. Personally, the company I work for has multiple applications which are all built using .net core (among other frameworks too) for mvc applications. We're currently using javascript (primarily to dynamically update controls on the front-end) but are considering changing to typescript at some point in the future. Never been a big fan of javascript personally, although it can't be avoided sometimes. Much prefer writing C# for my models and controllers since it's such a strongly typed language and then using Razor for the front-end pages.

[@nobudev]

I have almost watched all of your videos 😁, about the typeScript JavaScript ... can you talk about Typescript on the backend , and kindly help me answer this " between JS and TS which would you use for a building a package ?" ... the last scenario made me guilty (JS )😂

[@Alexandre_Keo]

I'm a junior QA eng but I learned JS and Java in uni and can see the benefit of using Typescript over vanilla JS anyday. Using types will save you tons of time for the small amount it takes to declare them. However, coming from a language that is strongly typed such as Java surely helps appreciate it.

[@skyy02]

Maybe talk about getting your first internship in the next vid? Or things you wish you knew back then

[@smithshaw1151]

JavaScript with JSDoc is the way to go!

[@AugustoKalahary]

I work with Java, but I intend to get a new job and I'm currently learning TypeScript for the backend using Nest.js. Coming from a language that's typed, I'm super satisfied with TS and as you said, it's something that helps you identify/prevent problems while you're still coding... why would you wait for your application to crash while your users are using it to fix it if you could avoid beforehand? It just doesn't make sense to me. Even though the TS code will be converted into JS in production, it's still a great and productive tool to use. Great video, Jacob! I'm excited about the Dev Chat videos.

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

I love Nest! ❤️

[@skyy02]

your website is down 😂 love this format man can't wait for more

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Looks like it’s working for me

[@skyy02]

mb, requires webgl but brave doesnt support i think@@JacobSucksAtCode

[@eliastamerr]

Stop making us wait weeks for new content 😥

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

I’ll be more regular. Just got back from NZ ❤️

[@eliastamerr]

@@JacobSucksAtCode keep up the good work! ❤

[@cody_codes_youtube]

Yeah, I think it’s all about preference. Strongly typed languages are not new and I’ve coded in professional teams for 15 years now, and I could take it or leave it. Typically I like languages like Ruby and traditional JavaScript and am completely okay with dynamic typing, but I can do whatever the team on the whole wants. If typing everything makes you move faster, then go for it. I just get bothered when people say sweeping statements like “this is the best”. Typescript as a concept is not new, not by a longshot, and just give it another 5 years and then people will love dynamic typing again. It boils down to personal preference and whatever makes them work the best, in my eyes

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Yeah good points! Preferences are everything

[@cody_codes_youtube]

@@JacobSucksAtCode preferences and ability to be flexible. Software engineering breeds too many opinions and tribalism at times. So yeah, as long as we don’t get away from what we are actually doing, which is building cool things.

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

@@cody_codes_youtube 💯

[@ShakaVegapunk]

I prefer using JSDoc, crafting types as needed without the necessity of TS's build step.

[@user-hj8ri3bj2h]

bro you added dissolve to your subtitles WP

[@MatDGVLL]

7:34 and now GPT/Copilot Prompter 😎

[@Skwize-]

Hello, sry my english is bad, but... What do you think about vacancies where the Juniors need a 1-3 years of expirience, and need to use something like a Docker, microservices, CI/CD (The backend vacs.)

[@xyves6327]

just apply, these job offers are created by stupid HR people who mostly don't understand how this works.

[@pshenichnikovm]

It’s quite familiar to hear something is an overkill. What do you think about “Kubernetes is an overkill and does not fit startups”? I truly believe k8s is going to become a fit for any deployment. But what specifically does prevent it from easy adoption? Is that a baseline in proficiency of developer? Or baseline in UX of the tool itself? Is there a silver bullet to convince developers to pick a more sophisticated tech in a trivial task? PS: I do actually like your “dev chat” approach, keep going Jacob!

[@EDEN-ex7wh]

Well you know the trend, it's from JS -> TS -> Rust. So, Next episode has got to be about Rust. And you know what happens next, a bunch of us go to twitch force the primeagen to react to the Dev Chat episode of Rust, and et voilá we have Jacob x Prime.

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Hahahahaha

[@jixu7146]

I'm a 4th year computer engineering student and havent really learned how to code. What language would be recommended to start? I have constantly put back learning to code because I fear choosing a language that will hinder my growth as a developer( due to over saturation in the market, etc.) I know many people find this question dull and repetitive, i'm sure some have been in the same boat as me before. I love your videos Jacob! I love the NYC aspect to it aswell.

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Depends what field you wanna go into. Web dev, mobile etc

[@jixu7146]

@@JacobSucksAtCode Was thinking web dev, I'm curious as to what made you go with javascript, Nest.js. Was it your first language or did something in particular motivate you to focus more on it?

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Learn javascript first, maybe move onto Typescript. If you wanna do web dev learn react too. Much later down the track when you wanna do backend you can learn Nest.js.@@jixu7146

[@ThongNguyen-zo3bb]

In my opinion if you first time learn front-end development you should learn Js first because it CORE And if you master JavaScript you can learn Typescript

[@shashwatupcomingSE]

Another great and informative video. What you think ? Is it important to be good at dsa to get a internship or good projects are enough to satisfy companies. Please answer in terms of Nzd coz I live there but you left 😂

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Both.

[@derrickwejebu705]

where did you get your glasses from?

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Bought them in New Zealand. A store called Bailey Nelson

[@user-hj8ri3bj2h]

7:35 professional googler bro that was sick and so fufcking right and the truth of our job :)))

[@Amplified125]

Lets talk about all different kinds of testing! :)

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Nice idea!

[@alexanderrotmg]

Off-topic question: How do you actually subtitle your videos? Is there like a trick to it, like are you using AI or something? Or are you painstakingly creating those by hand?

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Mix of auto captions in Premiere Pro mixed with custom design and manually editing text to match what I’m saying haha

[@Moohammedhamed]

Typescript On Top ❤❤❤❤⚡⚡🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@user-jg9dj6nv8y]

Hey! I’ve started coding streaming on twitch. I am doing there some interviews question, css, react and I try to learn with the community. The problem that I get is that I have like no views maybe because I am at the beginning or maybe I am not doing something relevant. My question is what is relevant nowadays based on coding?

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Just provide value where you can

[@christopherdsmd]

I coded c++ and java all throught college. Now learning web dev, I always thought it was frustrating javascript doesn't define types

[@ytpotr]

roadmap for becoming software engineer in your opinion...

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Nice idea ❤️

[@bosephburcios]

maybe the over-saturation in software engineers

[@sean8269]

And there’s me using the “any” type anywhere in typescript 😳

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

noooooooooo

[@katsuhikou666]

who gave you the work visa? your own created startup and found a loophole to give one yourself? just curious i want to do the same

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

I was hired

[@tocx]

What is your opinion of metaverse setups?

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Meh. Most need to figure out exactly what they’re building and how they expect to make money

[@0xTheDoctor]

alternative title: man bashing js holding sushi

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Hahahahahahahaha

[@okseaj]

Can't imagine working with JS without TS - especially in a large codebase. I'm not sure if it's controversial, but personally I think for backend I would just ditch JS altogether and choose a language with types built in. Go, Rust, maybe even Ocaml. Elixir is getting types which is cool too. I just find JS to be very unpleasant. Also, another possibly controversial opinion - you don't need to unit test everything.

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Ooooooh I like your hot takes ❤️

[@johnnyguzman2519]

what backpack is that?

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

It’s a Quiksilver backpack

[@johnnyguzman2519]

thank you!!!!!!@@JacobSucksAtCode

[@dobreciebe]

typescript is just good bc i dont spend much time in browse console

[@_eknock]

Quite some strong opinions coming from someone who hasn't studied computer science

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Just my opinions ser

[@PoshanKhatri-lw8mr]

i see all videos bro

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Woooooo

[@motisinmas]

npm vs yarn vs pnpm

[@ShaneCurtis1705]

I need help as a kiwi. I am a self taught software engineer. over the last 8 years I have been making different projects and in the last 2 years I have moved from game development into app and web app development. I clearly cant afford to go to university and im not sure how I should go about getting in to the industry

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Focus on practising project building.

[@ShaneCurtis1705]

one other thing. if all of my projects are solo will my lack of experience in a big team be a major issue? or will showcasing good source control and clean commented reusable code be enough? @@JacobSucksAtCode

[@SmartByteEng]

Talk about the insane amount of saturation in the tech industry 😅

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Yessssir

[@StefanRazvanAdobroaiei-ld6iv]

where is the dog ?

[@gjorgjic]

So, like, you like TypeScript?

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

maybe

[@Sarazinmw]

How do you like living in America so far?

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

It’s great!

[@smithshaw1151]

I take it you're using TS/JS on your backend? When coding up your back-end the choice is not binary!

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

TS for sure

[@argonjs]

Hey jacob, this series is pretty cool. Let’s talk about js with js doc, other than ts. Rich harris from svelte moved from ts to jsdoc because of some reason ✨

[@danielsires9768]

you and the lady split?

[@JacobSucksAtCode]

Haha no! Maddie and hermy coming over from New Zealand in a few weeks!

[@_eknock]

Typescript is a linter