Developer Highlight - Programming

[@zerbloo987]

Glad to see them introducing us to the other team members!

[@somewowhole42]

Well the face we're used to no longer works for coffee stain soooo lol

[@LiLBitsDK]

they only introduce us to those they want to scare away... notice how we get introduced and poof they vanish...

[@ethzero]

Now the iron grip of Jace's rule is no longer! 🤜

[@XGN93]

I'm not glad about it especially how it was brought about the guy who literally re shaped what gamers think about devs and how they interact with the community and then suddenly he's crying and on a strict script and then this like it NVR happened you have some big shoes to fill guy

[@ledgefisher8498]

@@XGN93 because it was strict i smell potential background issues. not saying there is but...one may assume

[@Krigalishnikov]

"Uh oh, something happened, talk to G2" will be my default debug message from now on.

[@izefreeze]

As a programmer, I have been waiting for something like this for SO LONG. THANK YOU COFFEE STAIN.

[@expensivecats]

G2: you shouldn't learn languages for eg. Web Development when you want to develop games. Me: Syntax of C# vs syntax of Javascript... There's little difference.

[@Zeratoxx_]

@@expensivecats Ah, he said "basics"! Sure, the syntax is always different.. but the basic understanding for each language is transferable. :)

[@Dealman15]

@@expensivecats I disagree, quite significant differences between the two. But they follow similar fundamentals in terms of how their syntax work. There's more to learning a language than just their syntax. That's also ignoring his point a wee bit.

[@IannoOfAlgodoo]

@@expensivecats True! But like other comments pointed out the basics get you REALLY far, It's like learning a new spoken language. The syntax is different, so you might use different words to describe the same :) And who said you can not make simple games with JS :D

[@qualia765]

@@Dealman15 this, like for example if one language that you learn (or how to are using it) is mostly procedural, then you will need to relearn a non-zero amount in order to understand object oriented. And then again if you want to do functional.

[@wetwillie]

CoffeeStain please don't ever change.

[@exoplanetarydev]

"I don't like merge conflicts" might be the most relatable thing I've heard from a Coffee Stain developer yet

[@stevebolton8471]

I never heard a programmer say they liked merge conflicts….😅

[@SheeplessNW6]

If you ever meet a dev who likes merge conflicts, get rid of them before they drive the team insane

[@Nontschef]

Thanks G2, helps a lot!

[@PatrickJoannisse]

I'd say if you enjoy Satisfactory because you like the puzzle of how to organize your factory and how things flow into one another and even enjoy refactoring stuff, you'd probably enjoy some aspects of programming.

[@lanwoah]

Yeah you could say that, but Satisfactory is also quite easy compared to programming and keeps funny as you scale. Programming can be difficult, a pain in the ass and demotivating. Though it has been a passion to me for a couple of years, doing a programming course atm

[@davidmartensson273]

@@lanwoah I would say its a bit like chess, on the surface its quite easy, but if you strive for perfection or massive scale of efficiency, then the complexity really grows, but programming is similar, I can teach almost anyone to write a simple program like Hello World or even quite a but more advanced. But getting from there to writing large applications with lots of interaction, thats very, very different :)

[@alexanderbenkendorf688]

That's why i suggest my kids to play Satisfactory and Factorio. (Having a break from minecraft, lol)

[@SanarySeggnete]

Nice to meet you, G2.

[@purplybtw]

ONLY 7 PROGRAMMERS??!!!

[@ChristopherRoss.]

I just wanted to say (in response to 7:39), that I was genuinely impressed by the programming for the fluid dynamics, with a small team on a huge game that is in early access. Kudos to you guys!

[@CJordanNicholson]

I love the b-roll of g2 looking at cat pictures.

[@Krigalishnikov]

I didn't even realized what it was hahaha

[@grimwart]

That was the code for arachnophobia mode

[@DameSilwek]

Programming is insanely hard because you have to be logical AND creative at the same time, but it's rewarding ✨ (This video almost make me regret to quit video game industry but I prefer have time to play games and have money)

[@KalNertea]

Unfortunately I partially disagree, about being creative. This work should be less creative and more crafty Creative solutions are hard to understand, and code should be as plain and simple as possible You don't want people to appraise creative solution, you want them to immediately recognize the pattern and follow along

[@CommentPositionInformer]

@@KalNertea It honestly takes creativity to make a code simple, when it needs to perform a complicated task.

[@LauraLovesHugs]

@@KalNertea that's not necessarily what creativity means. creativity isn't just doing things in a convoluted way, it can be finding easy to understand solutions that others didn't think of.

[@KalNertea]

@@CommentPositionInformer again I have to disagree, when you have sufficient experience, this is just all about splitting problem to less chunks and apply common patterns to solve it. We could argue about definition of creativity, but using this word is bringing more damage then benefits. I have mentored many junior software engineers and everytime this was a common issue. They usually can resolve problems by themselves, but the real challenge is to learn how to apply simplest logic that is possible

[@CommentPositionInformer]

@@KalNertea True, but that doesn't apply to all areas. It certainly applies to maintenance, and otherwise implementing new features on a well established system. However, plenty of projects are about writing code that quite literally doesn't exist anywhere else, working with patterns that aren't common. Or even in more simple situations like updating outdated code.

[@Axellplays]

I don't know if you proposed this video or not, but for me at least you motivated me to get out of the queue for League of Legends and to start that idea that I've had in my head for days, actually to launch Unity and start doing something, no matter how small. Just, thank you.

[@friendofp.24]

Based. I hope that spark continued or at least gave further motivation down the line.

[@TheGenericPerson]

Thanks for showing us this, so nice to see the other team members, and to we what programming goes on behind the scenes. Thanks, Coffee Stain!

[@demris15]

Love seeing more of the team! I can't imagine the frustration programmers go through... I work in HR and I flex into DAX/SQL. I can't imagine being a game programmer trying to integrate realistic hydrodynamics into a game!!! You all are amazing!!

[@JacobSantosDev]

That is the thing. It only has to appear realistic while definitely not being realistic because that would probably take a supercomputer and several minutes. Luckily with fluid dynamics you can consider the entire fluid as a single entity. I think with Satisfactory, they have back splash and each segment is considered its own unit. I could be wrong. Regardless, pipes make the physics easier.

[@knyt0]

@@JacobSantosDev wow are you sure?

[@Zooka128]

@@JacobSantosDev It's actually implemented in a way that it should be simple & easy in Satisfactory, but it kind of tells you how good their dev team is when not only do they say it's complicated, but also the fact that it's been bugged in multiple different ways for years. Seriously, the most complicated part of the fluid system they're using is literally the image displaying it, the pipes make it literally elementary to design.

[@MrHaggyy]

@JacobSantosDev fluid dynamics is a highly complicated topic, but it doesn't have to be computational complex. Many real pipe work is still calculated in a pen and paper way. Dividing the circuit in pieces with close to equal conditions and approximate the flow with a simple equation does a good job. It's not until you want to study the flow or the movement of particles or molecules in the flow that you need a supercomputer.

[@Shadsterwolf]

Always remember that it's ok to try and fail, the more you do the more you learn, keep it up!

[@elkiry]

I'm in my first year of "Programming school" as a 31 y/o! Long story short I went back to school to study programming because of this game. I'm incredibly thankful for all you do!

[@radcoders]

Ahhh... merge conflicts. The bane of my existence. Keep up the great work guys, much respect!

[@ooberholzer]

I really love your games since years... Can't wait for the "story" ;)

[@thebulletkin8393]

Im currently doing a game dev course at university, so being able to have an insight into what it’s like to use the skills we learn in an actual development environment is super cool! I don’t see any other studios sharing information like this so it’s a pleasure to watch

[@d431d]

would love a video like this but with a 3d artist

[@smnlblnc]

There is a playlist to look

[@FactoryOfHorrors]

This is fantastic. Love "meeting" people who work on my favorite game. If they're comfortable with it, personally I'd be interested in you sharing any socials they might want to give so I can follow them. I know not everyone would be interested in that though. So no worries if not!

[@ScantaniouslyCombust]

This is brilliant, I had a good chuckle in some places! I just started working as Data Engineer and some of the problems mentioned here are exactly the same problems i've had at work. It's great to hear that even senior level experienced programmers still have these issues, and even programmers working in a completely different industry to me. Would love more of this interaction with the technical aspects of satisfactory and coffee stain studios!

[@FastTquick]

I really do like these highlight videos. It does a good job of humanizing our favorite game developers and is something I wish more game devs would do. I hope videos like these inspire other small developers in the future.

[@michaelreeves_]

YES Developer highlight! As a developer this is golden material! LOVE IT! Nice to meet you G2

[@johnhatheway9918]

Nice to meet you Gustav! Thank you for your hard work and making such a great game. You should be proud of yourself for being a part of this! I haven't felt so excited for a game in years.

[@tyelork]

As a fellow game programmer myself, who has now worked with both C++ and C# professionally, this was a very enjoyable watch :) My advice to anyone wanting to get into programming is that learning to program, for games, applications, web development, embedded systems, etc. is that learning to program is learning to think. You have to learn how to think in a specific way in order to break your problems down to small enough steps that you can then program those steps in whatever language you're using. A good programmer can use virtually any language to achieve any of their goals, they just might need to learn the specific syntax and utilities of the language they're using.

[@ashamnixiel1274]

I would pay 100$ for the game, even in it's current state. Amazing job team and nice to meet you Gustav!

[@tyr3759]

I'm a software developer for 4 decades now. Love to see this. And I love your game!

[@palpytine]

Ah-hah! So at least *one* of the "WIP" resources enables portals

[@Zandario]

I'd definitely would love to see more stuff like this. Show off your silly bugs and let us laugh with you! But yeah this vid resonated quite well with me, especially when he talked about merge conflicts and pains of updating to UE5. Definitely a big pain of being a maintainer, though in the end, it's always rewarding!

[@ellienyan]

Coffee Stain never disappoints.

[@steveparker8098]

Thanks G2! Helps a lot! This was awesome. Please keep them coming!

[@jones81381]

G2 seems like a chill dude to work with and for. I’ve been interested in learning coding so I think I’ll take his advice and start messing with C++ and C#

[@raegune]

Great highlight video! Very informational and mirthful at the same time.

[@RockyRacc00n]

Big props for the fluid-sims! I can still remember how my mind was blown when realizing that the fluids flows back and forth if the pipes aren't pressurized. Can't imagine the math going into getting that to work realistically :D

[@69revalations69]

Love that intro hahaha welcome to my feed!

[@Naviss]

Massive respect for you G2, And the rest of the dev team!

[@PeteDeKiwi]

Coffee Stain Studios - where the game is only half the entertainment! Thanks G2 for your efforts over the years - Satisfactory is a masterclass on a game done right. Well done!

[@Gaspedaleks]

Amazing content, very interesting! Coffee stain studios really set a golden standard both with the amazing game but also how they communicate, share and interact with their community! :)

[@CODE-BROWN]

So it's this guy who actually makes "Soon" a reality.

[@jgdogg441]

All of you guys are doing a wonderful job!

[@benjamininkorea7016]

1. Nice to meet you. For a first video, you did great! 2. PLEASE ADD A ROAD BUILDER!!!! You can use the train-track systems, but just with a wider model. I cannot die happily until I've experienced a road builder in Satisfactory!

[@SgtCatbread]

Nice video! I think we would all like more of this!

[@fightwithdogma]

Despite this video being not being as popular as the other formats, you should keep doing those, these are the kind of content that define and solidify your stellar communication the most, and it is IMO always worth the investment. It shines a big light on the core values of the company.

[@localhost69]

10:21 It's always annoying when I'm programming and get a 'division by 0' error, although it's also kinda fine because I don't usually write programs that have any reasons to divide by 0

[@attilavs2]

Just add a +0.0001 somewhere 😘

[@zetsubouda]

I know you guys have engineers there but as one myself I find your fluid implementation really impressive. I know there are still some kinks but it's early access and overall it just feels great to be able to follow my knowledge as I plan my pipes!

[@davidchapman3228]

Brilliant interview, thankyou G2.

[@johnpena8704]

Fantastic video, thanks for highlighting the Programming Team!

[@LelleGeruk]

Lovely programmer bro, also, PORTALS CONFIRMED

[@johndurden]

What a delightful interview.

[@12stepsbeyondtheeventhorizon]

It's so cool to see the people behind this amazing game's mechanics. CSS know how to maintain a healthy relationship with their community, and that's rare. Hats off to you guys.

[@Cypri666]

Satisfactory is such a cool game! It really reminds me of programming logic, where you have to organize your inputs and outputs, and even think about scalability. It's like building your own factory and seeing if your designs can handle the growth. For anyone interested in programming, my advice is to keep practicing and don't be afraid of trial and error. It's all about understanding the concepts and applying them on your own, rather than just copy pasta from Stack Overflow. That's how you truly learn and improve your coding skills.

[@nauthic3p0]

Juhuuuuuu, developer highlights!!!

[@BKGT]

LOL as always - but great work G2! as a community we love this game and the company behind it - the open frank and honest approach works! And its great to see some of the 'issues' that you have to resolve from your programming point of view... keep up the great work!

[@DonkeyHopper]

What an insightful video! ❤ As a Front-end developer and an interest in game development and video games in general, this video was so fun to watch! ❤ And Coffee Stain Studios, man you guys are amazing! 🔥

[@IannoOfAlgodoo]

Software developer here, LOVE seeing anyonce view on programming and LOVED this video!

[@TaylorMadeAI]

Great video! Great Questions. Great staff energy!

[@WillHuizenga]

The Man, the Myth, the Legend.

[@BLAndrew575-]

Amazing! Thanks for showing some more insight!

[@TimbavatiLion]

"Uh oh, something happened, talk to G2" 😆 Best error log ever. Finally the Developer Highlight i've been waiting for the most. Somehow i never got my foot in the door of developing games, even though i've consumed enough Unity books and videos to do it. But i can't artist and was forever stuck at the "console input and output" stage. 😅2D, 3D is outside of my talent zone. I can do cubes and spheres with solid colors.

[@Kbuenker]

Great video! Also I like that you have Joking Hazard on the table behind you!

[@Grisu-k5h]

Ich möchte einfach nur mal los werden ihr macht einen verdammt geilen Job und ich liebe euer Spiel jetzt schon danke an euch alle

[@swampmonkey420]

Thanks G2 and Jace! 2100 hours in your game has taken away all my time to smoke meth! I only inject now, on days with a vowel in it GOTTA KEEP THE FACTORY RUNNING

[@bfoster68]

I had the nickname B2 because I was the second Bill at a company I worked at in the late 90's so this resonated with me.

[@Dullwo]

BRA JOBBAT GURRA! tack för att du klev framför kameran! och tack för ett grymt spel. ni får gärna prata mer om programmeringen! hare gött

[@its_baardy]

Awesome! Keep these coming! As for deadlocked trains, would a simple voting system not work? 3 trains deadlocked, each instance votes for a random train to be allowed first. The train with the highest number of votes goes. If no train has enough votes, start the vote again? Or each train is assigned a timeout, where it does not move or trigger the sign. After the time out, checks if the sign is still blocked. Logically one train should at least have a green light. Probably a lot easier to say the to actually implement..

[@jackolanternita4526]

Question to G2: Like me, do you worry if a lot of changes and new stuff simply appear to work at first try? Because I'm always worried that more subtle issues are hiding... 😅

[@realityveil6151]

If this is a genuine concern to you, then your unit testing sucks or is non-existant. If your debug process is "Whelp, let's just see if the compiler throws any errors and that things look broadly correct" then you are learning a very bad habit. Get your unit testing off the ground and you'll worry about this less and less. That being said, unit testing can be more art than science, so it's something you will get better at over time. But not if you don't start.

[@Tatourice1]

G2, you and all your coworkers are doing great work man. Keep it up 😊

[@BoltGamr]

I'm sad to see Jake leave, but seeing this I'm confident there's more than capable hands to communicate with the fanbase. You didn't try to copy Jake's style, but you were still funny and informative. I respect that.

[@flawmore]

No game is perfect, but I got to give it to you. For what Satisfactory is, there are remarkably few bugs. Well done programming team!!

[@timothylan9522]

Thanks, Gustav! Helps a lot!

[@theAgamer11]

So you're saying that the first Gustav is G-one?

[@kobusstander324]

The funny thing about this is we had second developer called Schalk and called him S2

[@LustraGaming]

I love his tips for beginning programmers, don't just follow the tutorial but play around with it. Careful when you do it on your homework though. I lost some a lot of points in school by doing so. My homework rarely looked like the expected result and my teacher didn't bother.

[@Dalokohs]

For new programmers I usually say pick a goal. If you want to make games, start by learning how to do a simple feature from your dream game project. Ex. get that player character moving. A lot of tutorials for that and it's easier to go forwards when you have something ready. Next up shooting

[@schnitzelhannes6431]

your advice is worthless

[@CalvinoBear]

For the fluids, it seems like some sort of damping coefficient would help. A very small one would work. Have a look at first order underdamped systems math. Maybe that will help 😀

[@heighRick]

Thanks G2, helps a lot.

[@cliptracer8980]

Always I hear it’s difficult to restart big power if giant issues happen. Can there be, a kinda debug hologram map that shows scaled down everything and possibly show the cause? Flash orange for proper inputs and power cable is attached and flow teaching? Subsystem analysis. Train heading possible, I mean extremely likely hold ups that will happen if unchecked that could save the whole productivity. Can call it, critical analysis system holograms. Cash.

[@dahgo64]

I really thought the video would end with something like "And that's why you should join our team. That's right, we're hiring!" It doesn't hurt to dream, I guess

[@craigchaotic]

Currently learning software engineering in college so this was nice to hear 👍

[@AwesomeEnterpriseInc]

Thanks G2! Helps a lot! :)

[@AusSkiller]

MS Paint for the art? That's a true programmer right there, nothing better than using paint to get artists to replace placeholder art quickly ;)

[@mercurial6480]

finally, we found him! the man responsible for all the bugs! get him!

[@chekote]

Pulling in multiple people to resolve conflicts sounds crazy. Maybe there’s some extenuating circumstances I’m not aware of, but I’d expect small, atomic, well-documented commits that make it clear what was done and why so you can resolve the conflicts with little to no additional communication.

[@admiralcasperr]

The moment when you become a programmer is when you start reading code without thinking or noticing which language it's written in. A generalisation for sure, but I wanted to make it quippy.

[@VollTrottel999]

Thanks G2, that helps a lot :) - Satisfactory is a really great game!

[@MattiasLarsson76]

Interesting video, it's nice to hear different sides of the teams. Now go fix the hoverpack drift!! :D

[@tramsgar]

6:31 Banker's algorithm was too hard to apply to a dynamic track network?

[@FlanderDev]

Ahh yes, Merge conflicts. One of us my brother.

[@Circenn]

With Jace out of the picture, are we getting golf implemented?

[@LizardMods]

you could simply write the logic that you would encounter in real life like at a four way stop whoever arrived first right person takes right away. If it's still a deadlock the next rule could be which trains bigger.

[@radbot1]

YAY it's great to meet more of the team! And what's wrong with MS paint? I really do use it at work, a simple individual pixel editor is really useful to me sometimes :)

[@schnitzelhannes6431]

it instantly destroys the alpha channel

[@knightowl3874]

Thank You G2

[@IllMind3d]

Thanks for this insight from G2! I do wonder though if the troubles of making the switch to UE5 are indicative of a potential delay of update 8? I’m just curious as I am quite excited for it, but am more than happy to wait too!

[@Villi_Price]

Have a nice rest, by the way, will there be a freight elevator for different cars? Very necessary!

[@astrayamatu]

coffee stain studios , these guys are my favorite in the gaming scene they know how it works and too keep people happy without to much nonsense going on in games those are the games i keep playing

[@nickl6820]

Really cool video. The pipes don't have any resistance and that's why it infinitely oscillates between two volumes at the same level. Now, how that would translate into efficient coding is beyond my personal knowledge. You might be able tap a mechanical engineer that does 1D simulations and has solid background in fluids while understanding the code side of things. Then again, they might be overkill since they are generally aiming for realism, and not light weight, effective code.

[@XGN93]

What officially does coffee stain studios have to say about jace leaving or why he left honestly was too sudden for me not to be suspicious and ask questions ❓

[@MasonzeroDigitalWorks]

Jace leaving is not sudden. He announced it this week, but he is not leaving Coffee Stain until July. He has been thinking about it since February, as he stated in the video on his personal channel. If you watch that video you will see it's because he has his own game idea that he wants to work on and he wasn't sure when he would have the time if he didn't just quit and start doing it. He will still be doing more weekly videos until July.

[@Villi_Price]

When there will be a freight elevator, we really need this freight elevator!!!