Development HALTED | Apple Vision Pro 2

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@camerastooge 4 ай бұрын

I have a feeling that people will miss the external monitors when they're gone. Right now it seems unnecessary, but take them away and people will complain about it feeling soulless, or just not being able to tell when you have someone's attention. But that seems like one of the most obvious ways to cut costs. I still think Apple is playing the long game here -- they have to know it's going to take 10+ years of consistent product development before this is really gonna catch on and become the next iPhone-level device.

@yumnax 4 ай бұрын

Yes! The external monitor is a glimpse of the future where it really seems like it’s completely transparent and you can see the other persons eyes.

@JteslaR705 4 ай бұрын

My only concern is what will they cut that would be meaningful but also cost cutting. It likely will be every single thing that makes this product so good too like the 4k screens, eye tracking, build quality, and processing power. I even think they will drop that screen too.

@yumnax 4 ай бұрын

Agree. It’s too early for a mainstream version. Would be better if they first show off what the AVP is capable of rather than dumbing it down and making it even more unattractive.

@jdarg4163 3 ай бұрын

All Apple have done is made the Quest 3 much much better as it now runs like a Vision Pro and with all of the monthly updates can apple really compete with them if the Quest 3 gets better every month

@Arkane117 4 ай бұрын

They need to broadcast live sports in immersion! A lot of people will buy it just for this experience!

@jsardone 2 ай бұрын

This is an Dev Kit. Plain and simple but because Apple is Apple.... they can't call it that (but we all know). As a VERY small business owner who travels a few times a year, this device is 100% worth every penny as a way for me to be fully productive in any space or scenario. Everything else/beyond that doesn't mater to me - - all the value has been realized in that alone. However, this is a trillion+ dollar company - they know their customers and the market well enough to realize that 3500+ products don't move like something as ubiquitous as the iPhone. Mark my words - - within the next 5 years, this will be what replaces the iPhone. Not because it's better (people don't want to go around wearing this all day) but because it lets us do more and in a way that the current model suffers from, but the future models will master.

@James-lw3gi 4 ай бұрын

The sources don’t say it’s cancelled. They’ve suspended it while they focus on the cheaper version. That’s a far cry from cancelled. Cancellation implies the V2 won’t happen. Click bait title IMO

@VisionProExperience 4 ай бұрын

Fair feedback! Title changed 🙌🏼

@James-lw3gi 4 ай бұрын

You’re a legend. Nice work. Ill check out your other vids as you have me interested now 👍

@futuristicbot 4 ай бұрын

@@VisionProExperience Bro I respect you more each day

@NeilLavitt 2 ай бұрын

Not cancelled - part of the strategy - this isn’t the mass adoption device, it’s the showcase product - the best they could do in 2023. Now the rest of the tech needs to catch up.

@James-lw3gi 2 ай бұрын

@@NeilLavittcorrect. The KZbinr changed the name of the video after my comment. Originally it implied the next Vision Pro was cancelled. Which is obviously not the case. I’m still using mine every day

@tbud3734 3 ай бұрын

This product was made only for ultra rich and it succeeded its not a failure, the normal consumers understand that and went on with their life.

@Mat-eq8mk 3 ай бұрын

They never expected to sell many. It's $3500. They also just opened pre-orders in the UK. Seems unlikely they've cancelled anything.

@usmanshahid8277 3 ай бұрын

You definitely cant compare the launch of the iPhone with the vision pro; the iPhone was truly a revolutionary product no one had anything remotely like it; the vision pro had quest out ahead of it and so many other Vr devices. Also your idea to “go all in” on a product that isnt working is a terrible one. You have to take stock of where the market is and what the consumer sentiment is. I get it your whole channel is about the vision pro; and it is cool but its definitely not mainstream yet. At one point FB had like 75% of the company building the oculus and the company literally one tenthed in market cap; they pulled back and now they have a modest 5% working on it while working on other things; u have to take stock of where things are at

@josephtsumba750 4 ай бұрын

That's a very fast response to change the title almost immediately. Love from Kenya!

@danielchamorro76 4 ай бұрын

Mobile phones at day one were free with you phone company. Like printers that then maje you pay a lot for the ink. The first models have to be cheap and even loose money for the company do they create an habit and necesity. After some iterations they can put the real price.

@MJsocean 4 ай бұрын

They need to make the Vision Air plastic!! I seriously don’t understand what possessed them to say a metal body was the way to go for the Vision Pro.

@TheSpacemanSpliff 4 ай бұрын

I agree, plastic can be made to look like a silver aluminum finish, and would have made the device so much lighter. I don't understand why they chose metal.

@drzej3k794 11 күн бұрын

The problem that the Apple Vison Pro has that the original iPhone didnt is competition. When the iPhone came out there was nothing to compare it to. The Apple Vision Pro at $3500 has to compete against what is in many ways a superior product the Meta Quest 3 at $500 and is entering a market that is already quite well developed. Who in their right mind, especially a casual user would drop that kind of cash ($3500) on a product that is poorly supported software wise amongst other things such as poor ergonimics with a tethered battery, when a $500 Quest 3 or the new $300 Quest 3s have all the same features.

@MrPyroblastic 2 ай бұрын

There’s not enough market for a such a product. Apple Vision as well as META are restricted to “selected countries” meaning that their market slice is reduced at start. Furthermore such devices work sometimes based on specific “services” like subscriptions etc that are also restricted to “select countries”. For example : in my country Apple Vision isn’t available. Even if I’ll manage to grab one, and intend to use it while I drive my car with navigating maps on … is still unusable because Apple Maps are very very basic in my location. And then … the price. In technology only the very enthusiastically ones are willing to pay big for a product that gets old and almost obsolete in a such short time. Another example : my Smart Tv doesn’t cost near 3000 usd and it’s already 7 years old. I wonder if Apple Vision will keep up same time.

@lilmichael212 4 ай бұрын

It’s just going to take a few years. XR as a platform and the hardware for XR is on a very different timeframe than past technologies. A lot of people want it to be 1 to 1 with smartphones or how computers developed and sure somethings apply but this tech is on its own journey, most ppl won’t have the patience to see it through. They’ll just be shocked when suddenly they’re wearing high powered smart glasses in 10 years and they’re everywhere. Ps. I’d be incredibly shocked if they cut eyesight, I don’t see them cutting that until they have AR glasses. I think them cutting eyesight would be an absolute last resort. That’s one of the most Apple features on the Vision Pro.

@pavelstebl9966 Ай бұрын

AVP seems to be a work in progress, flashing possibilities and potential but also its flaws. It may have be re-engineered not only to be cheaper, but also lighter and more comfortable to wear and also less power-hungry. Developers will not prioritise coding for AVP if it's unlikely to take off as a mass product. Apple made no secret that it was conceived for wealthy tech afficionados, not the average Joe.

@the_red_key8825 4 ай бұрын

I agree with the external displays can be taken out, but I'd be concerned that if they took too much away, it would be such a poorer experience that even at $1500, people wouldn't want to pay it. I'm all for them prioritizing a lower budget unit tho bc I want more people to experience it and want more, like we do. I don't see this dying off but even if it does, I'll still have been very happy with my experiences. I hope they keep pushing forward with the software improvements to this unit, build a really good cheaper unit and maybe in 5 years or so, an outstanding Vision Pro 2 that's much more powerful, smaller and cleans up the issues with the first unit.

@pascal4419 3 ай бұрын

I think the external display is important to still be able to communicate naturally with the outside world. Apple sells the AVP as AR glasses and not as VR glasses, so it is important to see the person wearing the AVP.

@FredTrevinoColor 4 ай бұрын

Great Video, lots of great info in such short time. I personally love mine and even the critiques I had when I bought it have faded away. I’ve found I use mine more to replace my MacBook for productivity or use it with Mac Virtual Display. It’s definitely Apple’s strangest product in that you really don’t get it until you’ve used it. (And the 30 min demo at the stores isn’t enough) I personally think it will stay but have slower adoption until apple has a more budget-friendly version. Everything people are saying about the Vision Pro people said about the iPhone when it came out, the iPad, when the cd rom was taken out of the MacBook Air and Apple Watch.

@Symbiotix_Gamer 4 ай бұрын

This

@NeilLavitt 2 ай бұрын

The biggest hurdle of gaining acceptance of this right now is cost of entry. I suspect that the rest of the tech and infrastructure for the services that will really drive this device are not ready. Sports services, camera gear, sports rights, music concert rights. All need to be in place. Big opportunity for Apple but also not something they can do on their own. I think the Vision Pro is deliberately the expensive product for this reason. Apple want it out there but right now while everything else is being worked out they don’t want lots of headsets out there with no content- that would kill the future. I’d say that the future will be the battery unit being replaced with a processing unit or an iPhone doing all the processing as well as battery. A two way power to recharge and power the headset will make up the difference. If this could launch at the same time as lots of immersive content it will become a mass adoption device. This is very much a deliberate long game. Skin in the game with hardware that shows what can be done, Apple’s service division no doubt working hard behind the scenes.

@mactyga5468 3 ай бұрын

Do you think Apple Intelligence will be on AVP 1 ?? I wan't to buy AVP 1 but only if I'm sure Apple Intelligence will be on it !

@Augusto_Caten 4 ай бұрын

When is it expected that the more budget one could come? How do u feel we are from letting go of monitors for vr headsets?

@spokee 4 ай бұрын

I think they should bring a more advanced version out next year as pro 2 and remove a few things on this make it the budget version

@myentercon Ай бұрын

I'm waiting your new videos. i love vision pro but i'm feeling sad many guys losing interesting on it.

@webjoeking 4 ай бұрын

Definitely a budget version to expand accessibility. This will then start the flywheel of more developers coming onboard because they can actually have a more meaningful user base, which then begets more customers due to new novel apps. This starts the flywheel going…

@sharonb.9128 4 ай бұрын

Great video and rational analysis. Why are all the premature death tolls being rung for this device? It’s only been out a few MONTHS and in one country. Apple never intended this to be a mass-market blockbuster. They projected less than 1 million sales. Apple can sell a million polishing cloths! Does anyone really believe Apple didn’t know their market for a $3500, first-gen device? Apple is targeting enterprise and education, aiming to develop business models for the spatial computing era. The public will follow with content and a lower price. It’s obvious Apple is playing the long game and investing in the future. Their present looks amazing.

@rikachiu 4 ай бұрын

The apple vision pro is a fantastic product. But like any product like this, it needs developers. With the world wide launch coming and crazy Vison OS 2.0 development upgrades, I don't see it going anywhere soon. It will be a niche product until the price drops, but enterprises, universities, etc. will buy it up all over the world until apple can bring it to the mass market. Apple intelligence HAS to come to AVP or it will definitely die though.

@scythecat 4 ай бұрын

Wait, do you mean Apple Vision Air will be cancelled? or just Apple Vision 2

@jdarg4163 3 ай бұрын

I heard they want to price the new device under $1000 to directly compete with market leader Meta and their Quest line of headsets

@djp1234 3 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure the cheaper version will be 1,999.

@TheSpacemanSpliff 4 ай бұрын

I don't feel the argument that the original iphone lacked certain features is a strong one. Apple claims they have been developing the Vision Pro for roughly 16 years. If you look at complaints with the Vision Pro regarding missing features, it literally only takes about a week or so to realize just how much it's missing. You're telling me that in all the years of development and brainstorming of this device, they just now are realizing these things? I'm an owner and I realized many of them within the first few hours. Basic things like re-arranging my apps, multiple guest accounts, mouse support (on a spatial computing device, seriously), multi screen virtual display, dual audio mirroring, large file transfers requiring it to be worn, curved screens, zero video or data input ports, phone unlock/passthrough, phone calls, curved screens, and were all missing. Sure they added a couple of those in 2.0, but it literally took 2.0 to get these basic updates. Even then it's STILL missing a ton of features users are desperately requesting. It's unbelievable to me that many of these features weren't included in 1.0 at launch, and honestly explains a lot of why it hasn't been the smash hit people thought it would be when announced. Apple has had the opportunity to analyze all of the VR headsets and software since the first Oculus to refine the Vision Pro into an absolute beast of a device. It feels like all that effort has went into the hardware, and not so much into the software. Will the Vision Pro ever get there? Sure, but the question I have is when? At this rate it'll be a few years.

@justinbaker2883 4 ай бұрын

Apple is also a trillion dollar company now and the VR/AR market has been around awhile now this is not a new tech apple is pioneering.

@PSy84 4 ай бұрын

where did Apple claim that they've been developing it for 16 years? I would believe it if starting 2010 but nit 2007

@TheSpacemanSpliff 4 ай бұрын

@@PSy84 There's a Forbe's article that talks all about how it was started in 2007.

@cmuralhas 4 ай бұрын

I din’t believe it will die out. Even if apple works on two models side to side, they’ll both sell. However for the first few years it may make more sense economically to have only one very good model and expand on it a few years down the road. It may also happen that the two models will be AR glasses and AR/VR goggles like vision pro.

@AEFox 4 ай бұрын

$1.4 billion of what? revenue for Apple? .. nope ... What was the real cost of each device for Apple? And the development costs?, nobody knows, so we don't know the real revenue for Apple with the current sales for the AVP.

@growtocycle6992 4 ай бұрын

Revenue is not profit

@AEFox 4 ай бұрын

Ok what was the real PROFIT for Apple then

@thoree.1048 3 ай бұрын

@@AEFox I doubt that they would give that sensitive Info out as for now. What they for sure profit from is being able to gather user data and info on how further AVP products need to be developed. Since its the first product of its line its important for them to know what to spend the money

@noyu8 4 ай бұрын

With a price tag of 3500 they knew it wouldn't sell very well. Especially when their competitor is under $500 and is almost the same product not quite as good but $3000 better that's a tough ask

@deadpoolfanboy3012 2 ай бұрын

I just said this info in a comment on another video. Vision SE, Vision, Vision Pro… plus the pro usually has all latest and greatest. Vision has enough to be good. Vision SE has a screen

@pclil359 4 ай бұрын

The AVP will be... fine - but it is AR/VR which -never- will be ubiquitous because human beings don't want to live in a bubble. This isn't an Apple problem, it is a tech problem. A cheaper version is necessary to expand the market, but the market is limited. FWIW I find mine amazing.. but I use it maybe 2-3x a week. There is friction to using any VR device. My iPhone is used hourly.

@thecritic2822 2 күн бұрын

uh ya because it over complicates the simplest things and while the initial experience is novelty. It very quickly wears off and you're left with a 3500 glorified pair of ski goggles with a battery pack attached....steve jobs would have never approved this design by the way.

4 ай бұрын

plz no plastic, or sacrifice on the quality of the screen

@micahweiss 4 ай бұрын

I LOVE MY AVP .. its better not die .. the do need to come out w more stuff for it stat !!! more games and apps

@lilmichael212 4 ай бұрын

I think this need for apple to provide us with a “killer app” is wrong. There is no killer app on the iPhone made my apple, it’s the iPhone itself that is the killer app lol the fact that apps can exist on it was the killer feature “there’s an app for that” we need builders and other companies on board. We also just need to wait for the tech to get to consumer ready level. XR just still has a long way to go. Even for apple, it’s not easy trying to create an entire new layer of reality.

@maxus1264 3 ай бұрын

5:00 🤡😂Wrong. It probably shouldn't even exist, people need it just as they need apple freezer or smart apple shovel pro to clean cat's tray

@yumnax 4 ай бұрын

I think it’s the wrong move to shift to an Apple Vision SE. The Apple Vision Air won’t get cheaper than $2K but way worse than the AVP. So who will be the target audience? People who want a meh VR headset that is way more expensive than the direct competition but still less expensive than the AVP? IMO they should hike the price of the next AVP to $5K or even $7K to show us what Spatial computing can be at its best. Then people get excited for a cheaper version. The current AVP is good but not good enough yet. The AVP 2 could have an extremely good outer display, better and wider inner displays, better motion adjustments, more ram for AI, better head piece and a battery clip included. Also battery duration needs to get way better but I think the bigger financial budget can give the Ingenieurs more options to achieve that. The second generation device can’t already be the SE version. Like even if the AVP is $1,5K or $2K most average consumers would wait until they see a real use for their life and wait until it’s cheaper. [Edit for clarification]

@Luck6651 2 ай бұрын

🌻🌻

@aboucard93 4 ай бұрын

Oh so they are just canceling the pro model.

@cjadams7434 4 ай бұрын

One thought is that.. maybe apple will be waiting till they are closer to the “vision or vision-air” headset to really put the $$ into the rest of the ecosystem This may just come down to timing.. more than anything else

@AliAzad1 3 ай бұрын

How can I have your vision?😅

@robertw236 4 ай бұрын

There is no Vision Pro 2 dude. Only Vision Pro 1. They are working on Vision Pro 2. You got this all wrong!!!!!!

@JM_2019 3 ай бұрын

Isn‘t he saying exacty that?

@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII258 4 ай бұрын

I know people that want it from using mine, but far out of their price range. And frankly, more devices means more Vision OS updates. And if the Pro simply does it a little better, this matches the iPad Pro experience and strategy.

@VisionProExperience 4 ай бұрын

100%!