Scrum vs Kanban - What's the Difference?

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Development That Pays

Development That Pays

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@Kajerman
@Kajerman 8 жыл бұрын
After watching this and the "Scrum Vs. Kanban" videos I've probably learned more in these past 20-25min than I did an entire semester. Amazing what a good teacher can do with the help of some great animations. Thank you, sir.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 8 жыл бұрын
What a lovely comment. Thank you - very much appreciated.
@ireshrie
@ireshrie 7 жыл бұрын
It is indeed. Much better than the extensive reading materials. Well done! It has higher retainability. :)
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
+Iresh Rie Dacian - 👍
@SoniaSharma1107
@SoniaSharma1107 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Thanks for posting such a wonderful video.
@Zabalero
@Zabalero 5 жыл бұрын
All this stuff is turning simple things into intrancate and complicated stuff through the use of buzzwords.
@nickfifield1
@nickfifield1 3 жыл бұрын
who on earth is giving this video a thumbs down? As an agile coach and scrum master, i can say it's short, sweet and very clear. great work!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nick. You just made my day! 👍👍👍
@blinkymon
@blinkymon 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they're from the designers who are always left out of any explanation of agile methodologies and who have to put up with clueless delivery managers, scrum masters, product owners, etc. who've never worked with designers before and don't know where they fit into these methodologies. :) I'm just speculating, tho.
@chrisweaver7989
@chrisweaver7989 3 жыл бұрын
Probably devs and the people who implement the work. I have recently been looking into these systems and been talking to various people seems like the scrum master is a bit of a voodooo subject in itself :O.
@changnoiboi
@changnoiboi 3 жыл бұрын
Effing idiots are.
@randomgrinn
@randomgrinn 3 жыл бұрын
Did not answer my questions on why my pee goes in 12 different directions, so I was forced to give it a thumbs down.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 8 жыл бұрын
This video (thanks to some unexpected file corruption issues) took some late nights and some early mornings to put together. I hope you like it, and I look forward to reading your comments.
@theivam123
@theivam123 6 жыл бұрын
You really deserved it !!!
@cameronhay7040
@cameronhay7040 4 жыл бұрын
It's excellent! Really clear! Thank you for making the effort!
@beenmicrophone5817
@beenmicrophone5817 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely fantastic video! subscribed 👍👍
@NomanKhan-pj3qx
@NomanKhan-pj3qx 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. thank you very much its really helping me in my work. again thank you.❤️❤️
@arslanbadr6865
@arslanbadr6865 3 жыл бұрын
Have a retrospective meeting with yourself then :D great stuff!
@southern_smacker
@southern_smacker 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps the only channel which knows how to teach and deliver effectively. These 5 minutes were more productive than watching hours and hours of videos and reading tons of articles on this subject, yet left confused and unclear. Thank you for providing such a quality education. ❤
@konatsume2351
@konatsume2351 3 жыл бұрын
I work as a Product Analyst and I can confirm this video outlines everything you need to know when differing between Scrum and Kanban I watched this video with my mother and explained along the way how it all works, your examples and visuals were very helpful!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome comment. Thank you!
@pickledparsleyparty
@pickledparsleyparty 4 жыл бұрын
This was really, really good. Not a second wasted, extremely easy to follow, and feels like it's pretty much a complete "talk the talk" lesson. Perfect.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice of you to say so! Much appreciated.
@dejountaewashington3874
@dejountaewashington3874 Жыл бұрын
By far the best description I've come across thus far. I had never even studied Kanban prior to this and got it almost immediately! Great job with this one.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. Really glad you like it!
@troymcintire2423
@troymcintire2423 2 ай бұрын
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Killer job, man.
@arijitmahalanabis8001
@arijitmahalanabis8001 4 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best, most clear identification of Scrum & Kanban & their resulting difference, & I admire so much is because of the little span of time within which the video encapsulates all this... Beautiful work @DevelopmentThatPays team & the narrator
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I'm delighted you liked it!
@tlingit
@tlingit 10 ай бұрын
That's the clearest explanation of both Kanban and Scrum that I've yet seen. Thank you. Liked and subscribed.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 9 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@georgetirim5282
@georgetirim5282 4 жыл бұрын
2020 and this still is one of the best videos to learn agile development. Thanks for your contribution!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! You made my day!
@MioYTonline
@MioYTonline Жыл бұрын
@@Developmentthatpays Still amazing in 2023, thx for the vid
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
@@MioYTonline - Thanks for making my day!
@faizsahazudin7546
@faizsahazudin7546 25 күн бұрын
We need this kind of animation rather than telling stories the whole time. The best way to make beginners know those approaches. Thanks for the effort.
@stuwmcclure
@stuwmcclure 4 жыл бұрын
This was an exceptional video (and I watch hundreds each week)! You were clear, fast, and precise. You have an excellent delivery demeanor. Thanks so much, I will share this with the many Teams I work with...
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you! Very nice of you to say so.
@omarfessi2761
@omarfessi2761 10 ай бұрын
I have worked with both approaches, after coup, watching this tutorial enforces perfectly what I've learned from both of them and gives me more confidence explaining to people why it was better to use what it was decided to be used. Thanks bro
@ezekielfrranks1314
@ezekielfrranks1314 3 жыл бұрын
I can definitely agree on that last point. Over time your Kanban/Scrum process(es) will naturally evolve and may even borrow from both Scrum and Kanban. Excellent video!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed: each has something to learn from the other.
@deeptisachan6559
@deeptisachan6559 2 жыл бұрын
I bet this is the easiest demonstration of Scrum vs Kanban on YT, which was short and crisp with covering every point. Thanks a ton for the amazing video and CHEAT SHEET.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 2 жыл бұрын
I'm delighted that you found it to be useful 👍
@natashaelliott8764
@natashaelliott8764 6 жыл бұрын
Finally I understand the key differences between these 2 Agile methodologies! This is the best video ever on this topic! Keep up this great work! Thank you!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
Natasha Elliott - Thank you so much!
@elontrudeau
@elontrudeau Жыл бұрын
Best video out there I have found, and you nailed it by saying you can adapt these processes for your business needs. Too many companies force a text book approach on these systems believing it will work and can cause more problems and push people to quit their jobs. It's a framework not doctrine.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 11 ай бұрын
"It's a framework not doctrine."
@estefmendiburu4200
@estefmendiburu4200 4 жыл бұрын
I am not related to Product Management at all! However, I do have to recruit product owners and I have to dive a bit into the skills /experience required to place the correct questions. This was so clear and so well put together, that I honestly feel more equipped to interview these kind of positions. I additionally learned a lot about Scrum/Kanban today :) Thanks!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@dukeiweh9232
@dukeiweh9232 10 ай бұрын
This is the best explanation of differences I have seen! Clear and simple. Thank you
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@OgniiDev
@OgniiDev 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible tutorial. I used to love SCRUM and the name Kanban was interesting to me. However the process of Kaban seems more interesting.
@ManishChackoATx
@ManishChackoATx 4 жыл бұрын
OK seriously-where has this video been the last 2 years? Amazingly simple that even I can understand :). If I had to pick a nit, I'd point out the "cheetsheat" spelling error at 4:58 but I don't want this content to be removed and so I won't mention it :) (because it has simplified Scrum and KanBan to an incredible level, everybody needs to watch it). Seriously guys, good job!!!! 4.95/5 Stars!!!
@GeaVox
@GeaVox 7 жыл бұрын
Oh joy! An English voice, at LAST! Proper speech, properly structured explanation!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
Why thank you. Awfully decent of you to say so :)
@GeaVox
@GeaVox 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your tutorial. Merry Christmas and a Happy 2018!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@zootius
@zootius 6 жыл бұрын
I thought you were Welsh though ;)
@MarwoodChap
@MarwoodChap 6 жыл бұрын
That's a North East English accent, some similarities to Welsh but different.
@ademtepe2855
@ademtepe2855 Жыл бұрын
Wow, it has been only 1 and a half minute and it has already proved that it's the best content I've ever watched on the subject.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU. Lovely comment!
@abduvosidmalikov
@abduvosidmalikov 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed a very useful video, thank you! I've got a question: one of the clearest differences between Kanban & Scrum is that in Kanban, Items are “pulled” directly from the Product Backlog to the Kanban Board. But in Scrum, only selected items are pulled from Product Backlog to the Sprint Backlog (intermediary) first and then pulled into the Agile Board. In Kanban, do teams ignore Prioritazation because there is no intermediary like Sprint Backlog? Isn't this bad? In Kanban, while pulling items from Product Backlog to Kanban Board how do teams decide which items should be pulled/developed first, how do they give priority to tasks? Or do they develop tasks randomly, in any way they want?
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
What an awesome question! Scrum teams ask the question "what are the next things we should work on?"; Kanban teams ask the question "What's the next thing we should work on?" This means that - for a kanban team - the top of the product backlog must be carefully ordered. Some teams add an additional column - between the backlog and Dev - often called "ready". It contains a limited number of ordered items. The Ready column can - and should! change at any time. Does that make sense?
@abduvosidmalikov
@abduvosidmalikov 3 жыл бұрын
@@Developmentthatpays thanks, it really does. Awesome answer. I can see that in Scrum, we are interested in taking itemS in bulk (thingS) from Backlog while in Kanban we take the most important item from the top of the Backlog. (am I right?) Another thing is: what's the difference between that "ready" column and the DONE column in Kanban Board?
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
You're right... although I'd say it differently. One of the problems that agile helps us with is the (very human) tendency to work on too many things at the same time. Scrum says "work on a strictly limited number of items"; Kanban says "work on just one item". The Done column is the final column; the Ready column (if present) is the first column (after the backlog). Take a look at this (section of) video for more on this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJi3ZXSXgMh1i6M
@abduvosidmalikov
@abduvosidmalikov 3 жыл бұрын
@@Developmentthatpays every time you are answering me I'm extracting something new and the knowledge is building up. when you said "Ready" column, you meant Ready to BE DEVELOPED (not Ready to BE RELEASED, as I wrongly understood it), am I right? Scrum says "work on a strictly limited number of items" => while Kanban's READY column is more flexible. Scrum's Sprint Backlog is something that is STRICT/CLOSED while Kanban's READY column can change at any time.. yeah?
@sacharora5265
@sacharora5265 2 жыл бұрын
@@abduvosidmalikov No, Ready means that the item is reviewed and is ready for team to take on when next Build or Active column is having space or limit available in queue. May try to elborate which will help whats in video - To Do - backlog or items in bag which a team needs to work. (RAW, may be not in order or sequence). As there is NO PO, so team is best to judge what to pick next (worst thing I feel (as Agile Coach) while working with KANBAN teams) Build - Here team is working on some thing, what this means that they have discussed and understood what is asked for and they know how to deliver it. Done / Completed / Closed - when the work is all completed and released for end user to test and enjoy this piece. Ready column - it fits between To Do and Build column # Ready column helps when a lead is looking on new things or backlog items brining them in sequence so that team can pick immidiate available next item in queue. So team knows that what is next thing they need to work on - similar to Scrum approach you can say. Here Lead is acting as virtual PO for team. @Development That Pays - please add/correct above if sounds going here n there :) as I am still learning Kanban coaching
@jorgerosaljr
@jorgerosaljr 6 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to understand the scrum concept for hours but got some confusion. But your 5min video saves me a lot of headaches. Concise, direct-to-the-point, and very informative. Thank you.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
Great comment! I'm glad you liked the video.
@adityanambyar7
@adityanambyar7 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a brief and near-perfect explanation! I can't believe you covered all the essentials of scrum in less than 4 minutes. Great work!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@justwatching2960
@justwatching2960 Жыл бұрын
I watched in double speed, so in 2 minutes I understand now what has confused for long time, and couldn't find the answer for. Great video!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
Excellent hack!
@NitinSharma-ly9so
@NitinSharma-ly9so 4 жыл бұрын
Correction at 2:40, ones the sprint backlog has been created and a requirement comes up, the product owner can discuss with the dev team if they can accommodate the requirement in the current sprint.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
You're... correct!
@sacharora5265
@sacharora5265 2 жыл бұрын
This is correct, that PO can present the new requirement and let team judge if they want to work in current sprint or leave it for next sprint. Alternatively, it is new, urgent and management wants it as done yesterday - then option is to replace something from current sprint to accomodate immediately. Here SM role is support team, push the new thing to next sprint or get something removed to accomodate new item. Otherwise, team will be under pressure.
@vinusubhash9106
@vinusubhash9106 Жыл бұрын
Following Kanban my whole development career without even knowing the name Thanks for the video
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@nicholasbrown6394
@nicholasbrown6394 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome content, between this and the mini series kudos to you! All of my colleagues just received training on Agile + Scrum so it was up to me to educate myself. (since interns don't go to those cool workshops!)You definitely smoothed out the bumps in the road with the flawless story telling.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tomghoreyeb9547
@tomghoreyeb9547 4 ай бұрын
Good stuff. I know they may not be a part of either framework, but Definition of ready to let items into the sprint, and the Definition of Done, to gain a universal agreement on what it means for a work item to be done, are as important as wip limits imo. They help prevent work from getting stuck inside the sprint, or forgetting quality gates on the way out. Super helpful video overall though. Just thought I'd add this thought.
@jsrrrmg
@jsrrrmg 4 жыл бұрын
With a Kanban system, there should be virtually no "Backlog" a.k.a. "Buffer". That is one on the major purposes of having a continuous 1-Piece-Flow system.
@prabhanshusaraswat7579
@prabhanshusaraswat7579 2 жыл бұрын
Very crisp platter in many many videos on youtube. Thanks for building such a short but valuable video.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome! 😊
@alichi7896
@alichi7896 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you are clear and explained everything simply
@talisman_tv5221
@talisman_tv5221 2 жыл бұрын
great video. in my team some people call our approach as Scrumban. But its just regular scrum with Kanban board, nothing else
@pk61435
@pk61435 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos on Scrum and Kanban are a top quality explanation. Great content and a great job fitting all the information in a short video, thanks!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
Petro, that's very nice of you to say. Thanks you so much.
@puliranjit
@puliranjit 3 жыл бұрын
such a short , simplified and perfect way to summarize the differences ...Kudos to the author!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you liked it 👍
@runybrydges3953
@runybrydges3953 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for breaking it down am new to project management and this is so helpful! Already shared to my course mates 👏🏽
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Glad it was helpful 👍
@andysmason
@andysmason 3 жыл бұрын
Great visual explanation. The only discrepancy I found is that the Sprint Review is not meant to be a "Demonstration", but an overview of what items/value were delivered in the by the current sprint.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
You're right 100%. (Back then, we didn't know better.)
@andysmason
@andysmason 3 жыл бұрын
@@Developmentthatpays It is still a great video and better than I could do.
@loquela
@loquela Жыл бұрын
Except the Cheat Sheet is is only free if you buy the course. The clue is in the name "cheat". Nice work!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 11 ай бұрын
I checked and the way it's setup is very misleading. Sorry about that. Yes, the offer of the course pops up. BUT... the cheat sheet was sent to you by email. Maybe check spam. Or drop a line to me at "gary at garystraughan dot com"
@sandokanfirst2
@sandokanfirst2 3 жыл бұрын
Great informational video - concise, eloquent and perfecly timed. The only thing I have a gripe with is the fact that e-mail is required to download the cheatsheet. Hence, it's not free - not in my definition of free anyway. I understand the reasoning behind it, but it's not the way to go. I don't know how many mailing lists you all are subscribed to, but the sheer volume of it is driving me crazy and I am very much inclined to develop a grudge against each and every instance that sends me e-mail and consequently to ignore them.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video... and yes, the email thing is a bummer.
@MaxwellSmartA86
@MaxwellSmartA86 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of your teaching methods. If I may ask...what do you use for the animations? Learning this skill would help me teach my team and colleagues. Thank you for doing these!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
+Chris Carmichael - That's nice of you to say so!. Re. the animations, I'll get around to doing a video on this at some point. In the meantime I hope this is helpful: I occasionally use Apple Motion, but 95% of the time I use Apple Keynote. And much of the animation uses Keynote's Magic Move transition. (I believe PowerPoint has a similar transition.) I make all of the transitions slow, export the entire presentation to QuickTime, then edit the visuals to the audio in Final Cut Pro.
@codebeat4192
@codebeat4192 2 жыл бұрын
Short and clear explanation, no buzz, thanks. The kanban process looks more smooth, natural, logic and freedom, not just production because of production. With those management systems, I can see the management benefits however never mention something about the (code) quality aspects and the long term effects of doing it that way. Is it fast and furious or gentle and carefully, what do think costumers of it (review) and will stay the development crew motivated. If it turns out to be a factory of software no matter what the quality is, just a tool to get a secured periodically income by sending bills, I think that is not a (long term) win.
@bris.e
@bris.e 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing explanation. Easy and concise. Thank you for putting this info together!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome. Glad you liked it!
@CyrusRMody
@CyrusRMody 6 жыл бұрын
Very clear succinct description and explanation. Honestly as a certified CSM and CSPO I did not truly understand the variations between the two. I am aware of Continuous iterative integration and the like but this video made things crystal clear… THANK YOU!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
Cyrus Mody - That's a huge compliment. Thank you!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
Cyrus Mody - That's a huge compliment. Thank you!
@alex_chugaev
@alex_chugaev 4 жыл бұрын
Literally the most clear explanation! Thank you ❤️
@ayeshapanchavi8093
@ayeshapanchavi8093 Жыл бұрын
One of the best videos to learn the difference between Kanban and Scrum just in 5 minutes. Thank you for creating this video and sharing with us ❤ Cheers! 🎉
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@nathancarnelos
@nathancarnelos 5 жыл бұрын
where i work they say we use scrum but, rely we use both, we do daily meting, retrospective, 2 week sprint and when the TO DO list is done we pull from the back-log lol
@krukd1mka
@krukd1mka 4 жыл бұрын
Scrumban
@cleversonsutil4495
@cleversonsutil4495 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! And if the task is not completed in the sprint, we move it to the next.
@anthonyrcaz
@anthonyrcaz 7 жыл бұрын
I just reviewed four videos on Kanban to show my teams interested in Kanban. One was gorgeous but bashes scrum. The other was a snooze fest and missed all the key ideas. Your video was the porridge that was just right! I think I communicate better than most, and I could NOT have done it this well, so thank you! I have only one criticism. Your definition of agile at the beginning is actually the definition of iterative, not agile. My favorite quote for this, said by my client Andres Borque: Agile = Iterative + Culture. What makes Scrum and Kanban Agile is the high trust, self-organizing, transparent, collaborative culture. Delivering smaller increments is a part of agile, but it is also a part of iterative (like RUP) even if you aren't embracing agile. Either way, thank you for a great video. I will recommend it be used with the teams at my current client. :)
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
Just call me Goldilocks! Great comments of the video. Your "Agile = Iterative + Culture" point is just the kind of distinction I love to dig in to. It's on the list for a future episode!
@grumpy_cat1337
@grumpy_cat1337 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, good ol daily meetings, the most hated thing ever. Sadly, the systems were not designed to help developers, they were designed to help micromanage the devs.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to disagree with you... and then I saw how many times your comment was up-voted!
@drawmaster77
@drawmaster77 4 жыл бұрын
we always have few engineers who just love hearing themselves talk, team is also very large so their domain is different from others and nobody understands what they are talking about, it's so frustrating!
@alexgehales
@alexgehales 4 жыл бұрын
@@drawmaster77 The secret to avoid this issue is to set time limits and rules in how feedback can be given. Anything that is outside can be taken offline.
@julianb4157
@julianb4157 4 жыл бұрын
If all devs are awesome, they need almost no management, and these meetings are either unnecessary or very fast. Back in the real world, that's not the case. Sadly, some devs are bad (inept, slow, lazy, whatever). Those ones need more managing - it's rarely as simple as "fire them and get better ones." Any methodology that can only work if all the team are way-above-average is seriously flawed. On average, a chunk of the team will be no better than average. Hence the need for these kind of meetings. If the team's good, they don't need or get micromanaged by a decent manager. If there's micro-managing, either the manager or the team are problematic - and it's not always the manager at fault.
@k.g.8503
@k.g.8503 4 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone be micromanaging at dailies? I mean, anything you use incorrectly can be blamed for not working.
@sebastianchomiakow6091
@sebastianchomiakow6091 4 жыл бұрын
Literally THE BEST explanatory video I have ever seen. Straight to the point with all information easily broken down. Terrific!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 2 жыл бұрын
How has it taken me 2 years to find this lovely comment. THANK YOU!
@thought-provoker
@thought-provoker 5 жыл бұрын
Two years late to the party, but a few comments. There are a LOT of misconceptions and dangerous oversimplifications in the video. Non-exclusive listing: * the role of the Product Owner is exclusive to Scrum, although many non-Scrum team use it as well. It's NOT an "Agile" thing. * the role of an "Agile Coach" is not defined in Kanban - how the role is defined in an organization varies widely. * a key difference between Scrum and Kanban is that Scrum suggests a single team to have end to end process responsibility, whereas Kanban is neutral to the idea that there could be handovers in the process. * Some Scrum teams not only use Kanban boards, but embed Kanban as their method of delivery. Therefore, it's not "confusing" at all when they talk about having a Kanban board. * There's nothing in Scrum that forces having a single Release at Sprint End. Many Scrum teams find value in Continuous Delivery/Deployment. * Kanban's WIP limits should not only be on individual activities, but on the Value Stream. There's no value in generating WIP that doesn't get processed in a timely manner. * One of the key principles in the manifesto for agile software development is daily collaboration between developers and "the business" (i.e. customers). The initial diagram is dangerously oversimplified. If developers don't interact with customers but only deliver what they think solves the backlog item, the result is usually low quality. * The way the arrows in the initial diagram look like, this is still a PUSH process, not a PULL process. In a pull process, the arrows would be reversed. * It's not called a "ritual", it's called "event" in Scrum - and Kanban prescribes none of them. * Kanban is basically a set of principles (such as evolutionary change, customer centricity and self-organization) as well as practices (such as flow management and making policies explicit) that are entirely ignored in the video. Sorry for the harsh critique, but I feel Kanban is entirely misrepresented and the proposed differences between the two frameworks could lead teams to decide for an approach under false assumptions. Here are the key differences: Scrum = build an effective team. Kanban = create an effective delivery process. That's why you can choose none, either or both.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 5 жыл бұрын
I'm broadly in agreement with you. The video was never intended to be a tutorial: it was more about "documenting" real-life teams... making real-life mistakes. Having said that, I'm aware that (a) the video has become popular and (b) there is a danger that people are being misled. At some point I'm going to do an "Everything wrong with..." video - and I'll borrow heavily from your comment! Thanks again.
@bloggerboy9935
@bloggerboy9935 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Quick correction - Sprint planning is 'not run' by Scrum master. I understand the sentiment of what you are trying to say, but some people might not. I think a better way to phrase it is the Sprint planning meeting is attended by Product owner, scrum master, the dev team, and any outside teams/tech experts that dev teams believes they need opinion of/help with. It is time boxed. And should the team feels they need someone to facilitate the meeting, Scrum master facilitates and guides/coaches everyone on how best these meetings can be conducted.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
You're right. 100% agree with your description. 👍
@makeitbetter9685
@makeitbetter9685 5 жыл бұрын
When are demos and retrospectives usually performed during Kanban? It was mentioned that Kanban is a continuous process and doesn't have sprints, does that mean that demos and retrospectives are done everytime something is ready to be delivered to the customer?
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 5 жыл бұрын
It is trickier in kanban, as there's no natural "trigger". Holding a demos and retros at each release would be (potentially) much too frequent. It's up to the team to decide when to to hold demos and retros. (And yes, there's a danger than they won't happen often enough.)
@samarendrapatel2040
@samarendrapatel2040 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Helped me in undersanding the difference between Scrum and Kanban in more clear manner.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent - I'm glad it was helpful 👍
@covelus
@covelus 7 жыл бұрын
good video, but those noises are annoying, I would avoid in following videos ('Bottleneck traffic signal' and 'Important')
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
I have been guilty of over-doing the noises in the past. Thanks for the feedback.
@OlufemiOlajiga
@OlufemiOlajiga 4 жыл бұрын
A perfect mix of Scrum + Kanban = ScrumBan which works perfectly for Agile marketing teams
@davidroberts3152
@davidroberts3152 7 жыл бұрын
Scrum isn't really a pull process because it doesn't typically prescribe pulling across activities. E.g. Code to Test. Typically when Code is complete it is pushed to a tester.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
Two things: 1. It's common practice (as you point out) for devs to push to Test. That's always struck me as unfair: the devs get to pull from the backlog; why should they have all the fun? The Test team should be given the same consideration. All it takes is another column (or a buffer zone) on the Agile board . 2. If you zoom out a bit - and view the tech team as a whole - the pull becomes more evident.
@HOWYOUDOIN884
@HOWYOUDOIN884 6 ай бұрын
@@Developmentthatpays When non-devs try to sequence things based on their emotions (fun) they can create a ton more work for the developer. The developer knows which things need to happen first.
@arshkhan3929
@arshkhan3929 3 жыл бұрын
I am going to use it for my interview and will share the result. amazingly explained.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
Hope the interview goes well. Good luck!
@AlexandraBondareva
@AlexandraBondareva 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! one thing - I think scrum is not a methodology, it's a framework. And not sure if Kanban has such things as standups, as it is coming from Extreme Programming. Is it dictated by Kanban that it should be a part of the framework, like daily scrum in Scrum?
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
You're right, you're right: it's a framework not a methodology. I'm not sure about what Kanban dictates: Kanban isn't as "codified" as Scrum. For what it's worth, I can tell you that every Kanban team I've been a part of does a daily standup.
@AnLAdCearbhaill
@AnLAdCearbhaill 4 жыл бұрын
@Flat Iron Silly question friend
@kaikiatong7684
@kaikiatong7684 4 жыл бұрын
After watching so many videos and reading so much, this video gives me the clearest picture of Scrum and Kanban.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely comment - THANK YOU!
@johnhealey5805
@johnhealey5805 5 жыл бұрын
Great job and teacher. I appreciate this gift you have.
@davebatty8814
@davebatty8814 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, short and to the point, very clear, firms up and fills in my understanding, thank you DTP. Only negative (you wanted feedback) following the link for your cheat sheet, I put my email address in, tick the boxes to subscribe, and then I'm just given an advert run around for a course and material I don't want but there's no option to actually get the cheat sheet or am I missing something. Is this just clickbait? That bit is not cool. *EDIT* So entering an email address gets a link emailed to you to then download the cheat sheet, instead of being able to download it there and then after putting your email in. There's no message to say that's what is happening just the advert but I got the cheat sheet in the end. Thankyou! 👍🙂
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 11 ай бұрын
My bad: yes the cheatsheet is sent by email , but there's no note to that effect. NOT COOL (as you said). I'll get that fixed as soon as I can. Thank you for taking the time to let me know. Much appreciated.
@vd853
@vd853 6 жыл бұрын
Animations are helpful in memorizing these stuff.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the animations!
@agnep1630
@agnep1630 6 жыл бұрын
i JUST LANDED MYSELF FIRST GRADUATE JOB FROM IT SECURITY BACKGROUND TO QA ENGINEERING SO I NEED TO LEARN THIS ALL IN 1 WEEK BEFORE I START !! THANK YOU SIR
@agnep1630
@agnep1630 6 жыл бұрын
CAN ANYONE SUGGEST VIDEOS I CAN LOOK AT TO FAMILIARISE WITH QA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ?
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
Wow - that's great news! Good luck with your new role.
@xen2297
@xen2297 6 жыл бұрын
Aaaand here's a video that does in 5 minutes what a thousand blog posts have not done in a decade.
@sshadow2
@sshadow2 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! However, Kanban tends to be more flexible than what you described. It depend on the org and teams. For mine (software dev) we work with 7 columns on our board including a “To Do” column that is similar to a scrum backlog and 2 columns for tracking QA activities. We have drops (like sprints but in several weeks and months timeframes) based on quarterly deliverables. We just keep pulling from todo column based on Dev availability and blocked user stories. We have story points and priority ranking as well. Lastly, it’s team ran and we all work directly with our product owner (who is assigned to one Dev team). They’re kinda like a Agile Coach as they manage the board, but there are clear differences.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your process: sounds like it's working well for you. 👍
@Yetipfote
@Yetipfote 5 жыл бұрын
0:00 tbh I came to this video to learn about how to cook cup cakes.
@saswatibhattacharjee4992
@saswatibhattacharjee4992 3 жыл бұрын
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@natep7425
@natep7425 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question. Our team uses the JIRA Kanban board. Each month, we take items from the backlog and work on them for a month. After a month, we do a release where we deploy one month's work to Prod. As we are using the Kanban board, are we doing Kanban?
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 2 жыл бұрын
What you describe sounds much more like Scrum.
@martineyles
@martineyles 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to download the cheat sheet, or must I "pay" with my email address?
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, you do need to enter your email address: that allows me to send you a new version when it's updated. (It's already been updated multiple times.)
@steveabiola447
@steveabiola447 4 жыл бұрын
@@Developmentthatpays Can you please send me the sheet too? Thanks
@HOWYOUDOIN884
@HOWYOUDOIN884 6 ай бұрын
@@steveabiola447 sure... when?
@suresh1957
@suresh1957 2 жыл бұрын
Short, succinct and to the point. Overjoyed that I somehow stumbled upon this video. Thanks once again. Suresh/ Strasbourg, France
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
Merci!
@ClintonVincen
@ClintonVincen 5 жыл бұрын
In Scrum: Is there a guideline as to who(developers) owns the items in the sprint backlog, or is that at the discretion of the development team ?
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 5 жыл бұрын
It's very clear: the Product Owner owns the Product Backlog. But that doesn't mean that she is all-powerful. Here's why: it's the Development Team that gets to choose the items for each Sprint (the Sprint Backlog). And the team is not obliged to pick the top-most items.
@odiewan67
@odiewan67 4 жыл бұрын
In my team, each developer usually is expected to pick their own stories, unless the PO or the SML has a preference
@1m1r0z
@1m1r0z 3 жыл бұрын
Truly excellent and succinct. Better than any similar video I've seen on KZbin in every way, especially because it's accurate and saves time. Thank you.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very nice of you to day so. 👍
@chengrace8701
@chengrace8701 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible tutorial. Wonderful. Good job.
@MrSuriyam
@MrSuriyam 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the summarized video.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 10 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@Dwavard
@Dwavard 5 жыл бұрын
Great pace, v clear, thank you for uploading this :-)
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
@Robin.Kshetri
@Robin.Kshetri 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic.. I always prefer videos over reading ebooks and trhis video just taught taught me things in 5 mins which could have taken me days if I was reading.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 2 жыл бұрын
What a lovely comment. Thank you!
@marmanlive
@marmanlive 6 жыл бұрын
Good shot, thnx much, really defines well enough!!!!
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@b213videoz
@b213videoz 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Probably one of the best on the topic (I wish I had found it 5 years ago). But Scrum is prescriptive: Ken Schwaber demands purity
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video. And you raise a good point about purity; I tend to blur the lines between the "pure" and the "not-so-pure" versions of Scrum. I may need to tighten this up a bit. Great comment.
@DudeWatIsThis
@DudeWatIsThis 4 жыл бұрын
In my team, we simply use a mixture of boths styles, with longer sprints, and minus the cult-like stuff :D
@diogeneslantern18
@diogeneslantern18 5 жыл бұрын
18 January is my birthday. I wish I had watched your content when I was starting out with my business :) it is a treasure trove of great info
@antoniog9814
@antoniog9814 7 жыл бұрын
Scrum & Kanban are NOT methodologies. They are frameworks. Agile is the methodology and Scrum & Kanban fall under it.
@genpowernow
@genpowernow 7 жыл бұрын
You're right, you're right. When I made this video, I wasn't aware of the distinction: I've corrected this in more recent episodes - and in my Mini-course.
@MrKieranthompson
@MrKieranthompson 7 жыл бұрын
Agile is absolutely not a methodology as it follows no strict guidelines, it is to be used and adapted to the specific requirements of the business owner and the customer. Scrum and Kanban fall under the methodology convention as they have specific guidelines in place that distinguish them from other agile methodologies.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
I guess it's a matter of degree: there's plenty of "wiggle room" in Scrum and (especially) Kanban.
@LukePighetti
@LukePighetti 6 жыл бұрын
Kanban existed long before software development, so it cannot be a subset of agile software development.
@usget
@usget 6 жыл бұрын
Well, it was developed at roughly the same time - the 1950s. But of course it can be used as a subset of Agile. The computer is a subset of "internet connected devices", yet computers existed before the internet...
@faridjabbouritcs2517
@faridjabbouritcs2517 2 жыл бұрын
Great Amazing animations and Teacher. 5 minutes made a big difference in my understanding of Kanban and Scrum and Agile
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@TheShadowless
@TheShadowless 6 жыл бұрын
Scrum: What’s the difference between me and you? Kanban: I bought 5 bank accounts, 3 ounces and 2 vehicles.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
?!?
@dmitrydanilov3417
@dmitrydanilov3417 5 жыл бұрын
Waterfall: Until my death, I'm Bangladesh
@nithyavasudevan3822
@nithyavasudevan3822 4 жыл бұрын
@@Developmentthatpays Dr.Dre song
@MandyBrews
@MandyBrews Жыл бұрын
These both sound like they're for business owners. Would either of these systems be helpful for an individual who just wants to organize themselves?
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
Scrum possibly. Kanban more likely. I recommend doing a search for "personal kanban".
@MandyBrews
@MandyBrews Жыл бұрын
@@Developmentthatpays Thanks, will do.
@sacredgeometry
@sacredgeometry 4 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely incorrect. Agile tells you literally nothing about process its just a set of values. No matter how many times the people who wrote the manifesto say this there will always be people who don't understand it.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
I really do need to do a video or three on the Agile Manifesto.
@gulnarabekirova4741
@gulnarabekirova4741 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I have a question about how in Kanban new release looks like, when the team knows that it's time to do a new release? In Scrum when 2 weeks are completed or all tickets on board are in Done column that is a signal to create a new build, but I didn't get from this video when in Kanban release happens.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 11 ай бұрын
Ideally, the release should happen as soon as it can: i.e., when a particular "ticket" is complete/tested/etc. (Increasingly, Scrum team release on the same basis (asap), rather than waiting to the end of the Sprint.)
@IoDavide1
@IoDavide1 6 жыл бұрын
This method look like the method adopted the day after Turing invented the computer... I really cannot find anything new...
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 6 жыл бұрын
OK. (Did Turing invent the computer?)
@IoDavide1
@IoDavide1 6 жыл бұрын
Development That Pays sorry for my comment, but it seems a very ordinary developing method, never heard something different. Yes, he did.
@r.walid2323
@r.walid2323 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation, as well as the attached sheet.
@azraeljudahbenisrael
@azraeljudahbenisrael 5 жыл бұрын
FRAMEWWORK! not Methodology
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 5 жыл бұрын
I know, I know. I'm ashamed of myself. 😱
@linkinparkroxx
@linkinparkroxx 5 жыл бұрын
@@Developmentthatpays Whats the difference?
@largemouthbassman5628
@largemouthbassman5628 2 жыл бұрын
We need a teacher like him in every area
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making my day!
@B20C0
@B20C0 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, but one question: Who decides what is in the individual items or how big they are?
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
Any/all members of the team.
@m.f.8752
@m.f.8752 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanations for both. Thank you. Explained simply and without top-heavy graphics.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@nitinissar1930
@nitinissar1930 2 жыл бұрын
Best video on earth saved my day before the exam !!!! ❤️❤️❤️ Love it
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays Жыл бұрын
*_DELIGHTED_* that it was helpful for you!
@abhishekkate5704
@abhishekkate5704 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, can I say, Voice of Customer (VOC) is same as that of Agile where customer is at the centre of universe???
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 4 жыл бұрын
I think so. One distinction: in Agile, the VOC is _tested_ - regularly - via regular releases.
@hazemnz
@hazemnz 3 жыл бұрын
A great contribution to clarify the differences between Scrum and Kanban !
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was useful.
@nwobodogeorge5370
@nwobodogeorge5370 3 жыл бұрын
This video is wonderful. I understand the difference between scrum and Kanban by watching the video. Thank you so much
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You just made my day 👍
@claudiamchang
@claudiamchang 3 жыл бұрын
So helpful. Which program did you use for the graphic/animation please?
@moonllama6650
@moonllama6650 7 жыл бұрын
This video helped me understand something that I have been trying to for more than 6 months. Cannot believe that I did not find this early. Thanks much. Life Saver. A few Questions. 1. When do Kanban teams do demos? 2. When is the retrospective conducted? 3. Also, is no one from the KANBAN team involved in release work? If so how do they maintain 100% efficiency in development? I think I know the answers to the above but would still like to hear from you.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. I like your questions. Kanban teams *can* do demos... and retrospectives. They do them "as required". However, without the natural "rhythm" of a Sprint, there's a danger that they... get forgotten. Kanban teams can - and should - be involved with release work. What are your thoughts?
@moonllama6650
@moonllama6650 7 жыл бұрын
Your answers are inline with what I had in mind. I think it's fair to say that when using KANBAN the team is involved in demos and retrospectives and release work they are not always a 100% involved in pure development throughout. The flexibility that this offers if used wisely can be of added benefit.
@Developmentthatpays
@Developmentthatpays 7 жыл бұрын
If anything, the Agile approach - Scrum, Kanban or a range of other approaches - *reduces* the percentage of "pure development" time. Agile is not *efficient*. But it can be *effective*.
@moonllama6650
@moonllama6650 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed! In this ever so complex development environment we need something effective.
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